What if Goku was BETRAYED and TRAPPED in the Time Chamber?

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  • Following the defeat of King Piccolo, Goku goes to train with Kami. However, Kami believes that Goku may be trouble, another Piccolo waiting to happen. Now Kami betrays Goku and locks him away in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Will he be able to escape?
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  • @SmugStick
    @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +927

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    • @Jakai80
      @Jakai80 Před 2 lety +8

      Hey man im first to comment :)

    • @sagetheassassin3192
      @sagetheassassin3192 Před 2 lety +5

      Thanks for the Elite content

    • @x-track5190
      @x-track5190 Před 2 lety +5

      Pero mi hermano estas demente Xd igual veré el video pero espero no se vuelva como los otros que tiran en latinoamerica o España XD

    • @SchizoFrog3
      @SchizoFrog3 Před 2 lety +5

      Now this was interesting. You posted this on me birthday :D

    • @58jn89
      @58jn89 Před 2 lety +3

      You should do another what if video about
      "What if Fasha was Bardock's wife instead of Gine?"
      or
      "What if Bardock and Gine and Bardock's Crew member's survived and went to Earth with Goku?"
      What if suggestion
      1."What if the Saiyan's from Planet Vegeta were in Mortal Kombat?"
      2."What if the Saiyan's from planet Vegeta was in Castlevania from the Netflix series?"
      3."What if Ashi from Samurai Jack was a Saiyan from planet Vegeta?"
      4."What if the Saiyan's from planet Vegeta were in Samurai Jack?"
      5."What if Kale was Broly's sister?"
      6. What if the Saiyan's was in Avengers endgame?
      7. What if Aku from Samurai Jack was in Dragon ball?
      8.What if Hell Spawn was in Dragon ball?
      9. What if Alien and Predator was in Dragon Ball?
      10. What if Bardock become Devilman instead of Akira Fudo?
      11. What if the Saiyan's from Planet Vegeta was in Urotsukiodji the legend of the overfiend?
      12. What if Kratos from God of War was in Dragon Ball?
      or
      What if the Saiyan's from Planet Vegeta was in God of War?
      13. What if the Saiyan's from Planet Vegeta was in Jak and Daxter series?

  • @socialaccount0000
    @socialaccount0000 Před 2 lety +3515

    This what if is certainly strange, but I like the idea of Kami taking his role as Guardian of Earth a little too seriously and regretting it. I also like the idea of Goku not being "evil" but basically using the Earth as his gym lol

    • @ssjkaito5479
      @ssjkaito5479 Před 2 lety +163

      Ngl that's sad and funny because sad because kid goku still had hope and waited and when nothing changed he lost his mind well kinda didn't go full evil. Funny because after pretty killing kami and destroying the dragonball what this man does with his newfound freedom is train just fucking train Lmao 🤣

    • @hunterv9983
      @hunterv9983 Před 2 lety +141

      Goku: "I'm just training. If they die, they die."

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 Před 2 lety +22

      @@hunterv9983 Yup. Exactly

    • @bichimadorable9697
      @bichimadorable9697 Před 2 lety +38

      That does bring up a thought though...
      Is goku 730 years old? Saiyans do progressively age, as shown with Brolys father, but goku was stuck in that chamber for 2 years, but 1 day=1 year in the chamber... I knew it!
      GOKU'S IMMORTAL!!!!!

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 Před 2 lety +40

      @@bichimadorable9697 Hes Only Like 30 Years Older lol
      He was Trapped for only 1 Month

  • @ArtsyJet
    @ArtsyJet Před 2 lety +748

    If Kami actually did this I don't think we could consider him the "good" half.

    • @Solkage885
      @Solkage885 Před 2 lety +60

      His just the least evil side of the terrible evil side of goku

    • @xxvoid_cowboyxx2586
      @xxvoid_cowboyxx2586 Před 2 lety +32

      To be fair, Jr is essentially the copy of the original evil half yet he had the capacity for kindness. I’d like to imagine that the separation was less an eradication of either Nameks virtues or vices, but a relief. Both sides could develop new ones, but at the moment of their creation, they were prominently made up of Good and Bad

    • @ProcyonDei
      @ProcyonDei Před 2 lety +7

      The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

    • @ArtsyJet
      @ArtsyJet Před 2 lety +9

      @@ProcyonDei For any reason, locking away a 12 year old boy in complete isolation is still pure evil. Especially since Kami planned for it to be permanent and hoped he died in there. Heck, Popo is the one who talked Kami down to confinement. Kami was gonna straight up seal a child away forever.

    • @ProcyonDei
      @ProcyonDei Před 2 lety +2

      @@ArtsyJet That's more or less what I said...
      Kami was so concerned about how Goku could become a danger to Earth, that he resorted to something so evil to prevent that, and in an ironic twist he caused that exact scenario to occur...
      edit: I'm also resisting the temptation to make a Catholic priest joke...

  • @eliandervalderen5849
    @eliandervalderen5849 Před 2 lety +1291

    I really do feel sorry for Goku in this one. He did nothing wrong he was betrayed simply because of someone's fear

    • @Ray_playz.
      @Ray_playz. Před 2 lety +60

      That's basically what frieza did to the saiyans

    • @eliandervalderen5849
      @eliandervalderen5849 Před 2 lety +23

      @@Ray_playz. FairPoint but that's the kind so many times to the point where apparently now with the last Repcon beerus actually ordered Frieza to kill the Saiyans

    • @freddypedraza2066
      @freddypedraza2066 Před 2 lety +10

      Goku is fenris

    • @rohanpxo7516
      @rohanpxo7516 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ray_playz. except the sayain kinda deserved it

    • @kidfromthe7
      @kidfromthe7 Před 2 lety +7

      @@rohanpxo7516 how?

  • @pedrojosebellobelen3824
    @pedrojosebellobelen3824 Před 2 lety +276

    This was truly a unique take on a Betrayal Story, and one that actually seems to properly work and make sense in the DB World, especially given how early DB Kami was that paranoid. Also I like how unlike most other cliche betrayal stories Goku doesn’t go evil, just Apathetic-Mad and that, despite everything, there’s still some hope for him to be redeemed if things play out right. I do hope that the Z Warriors find out what Kami did from Popo.

  • @Deiect97
    @Deiect97 Před 2 lety +643

    With how UNBELIEVABLY paranoid and cautious Kami is, I can see this happening

    • @lightingthief4482
      @lightingthief4482 Před 2 lety +41

      Seems crazy at first but it does make sense, especially if Kami knows about Saiyans.

    • @fastone5874
      @fastone5874 Před 2 lety +21

      and this is how over thinking can have consequences

    • @delaxy-_-
      @delaxy-_- Před 2 lety +7

      Whats funny is dat his caution ended up literally creating the thing he was afraid of

    • @lilchristuten7568
      @lilchristuten7568 Před 2 lety +7

      I can't. The fact is that Goku is a pure hearted individual Kami couldn't have sensed darkness inside of Goku.

    • @Deiect97
      @Deiect97 Před 2 lety +4

      @@lilchristuten7568 Its not that he sensed darkness in him, but that he was afraid of Goku’s potential and what it could become.

  • @perfectedwarrior79
    @perfectedwarrior79 Před 2 lety +1282

    This is a combination of amazingly crazy and just. Sad.
    Kami was honestly one of the best and worst things to happen to Earth.
    Sad part is that I could honestly see him legit doing this.
    Just a couple flicks of the personality and it can change things drastically.
    But enough of that. Excellent work, Smug!

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +77

      Really glad you enjoyed it!!

    • @crissanti8206
      @crissanti8206 Před 2 lety +11

      @@SmugStick dude. This story havr a loot of potential. I will count the days till the part 2

    • @Umed1
      @Umed1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SmugStick we want part 2 tommorow or the day after tommorow because we hit the goal of 3 thousand.

    • @michaelrotola9802
      @michaelrotola9802 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SmugStick Im thinking of making a CZcams channel. Do you think you could help me come up with a name?

    • @fastone5874
      @fastone5874 Před 2 lety +1

      it’s sad how right you are and i get that kami knew it was difficult to escape but after seeing goku’s potential he should know that with enough training that there was a chance he could escape

  • @dandelarosa64
    @dandelarosa64 Před 2 lety +96

    I like how this story turned out. It’s like getting the obviously bad ending in a video game and then watching the rest of it play out as a full-length movie.

  • @nixodian108
    @nixodian108 Před 2 lety +240

    There is a problem with the timelines: if Goku was sealed in the time chamber for 30 years that would mean that 30 days had passed on the outside world. As a result Krillin and Chi-Chi would still be kids. Same with Piccolo.

    • @bryanfeliciano4102
      @bryanfeliciano4102 Před 2 lety +9

      Can't they adjust the time dilation?

    • @caldablog89
      @caldablog89 Před 2 lety +16

      Thank someone for pointing this out. It's the ONLY argument that needs to be made about why this "what-if" scenario would never happen like this. I think it's pretty spot on with the Goku personification, and all that. But simply speaking, not a single person on the planet would be even a fraction of a fraction as strong as goku in this situation. And as it was stated, we didn't know about the time dilation for the HTC until DBS, but even if we did, we could assume Kami to turn it up to it's max in hopes of getting rid of Goku in the fastest way.

    • @joelsilva699
      @joelsilva699 Před 2 lety +11

      1:27 there’s a way to get around this. SmugStick could have said something along the lines of this. “For the next 3 years Kami decides to train and observe Goku’s progress and can tell that he’s growing at an alarming rate. On the day of the 23rd Word Martial Arts Tournament, Kami consults with Popo and decides that he will go face Piccolo Jr. himself. But before that he decides that the only way to get rid of goku is to trap him the HTC.”

    • @pattersong6637
      @pattersong6637 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah, just have this be 2 years into his training with Kami and it works fine. I was thinking this re: Piccolo Jr, who was just recently hatched and nowhere near full power initially, but do it 2 or 2 1/2 years in and it's fine.

    • @matheusjahnke8643
      @matheusjahnke8643 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe that means goku trained for 30 years on the perspective of someone outside the HTC.
      So he actually trained for 30*365 years, or almost 11000 years.
      That is a lot of time.
      The only thing that makes this questionable is that Sayans might not live too long(it's said in the DBZ's epilogue that their youth is extended, but I'm not sure this means living for longer than written history)

  • @Grotto76
    @Grotto76 Před 2 lety +914

    This is actually my first time hearing about a story like this. The thought of Goku being betrayed never brought came to mind because it’s Goku, earth’s greatest hero it could have. Can’t wait for part 2!
    Edit: I just remembered. No one knows what happened that made Goku this way. No one knows what Kami has done.

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +69

      Keep that in mind for the future! Good catch.

    • @mahmoudemileconde5143
      @mahmoudemileconde5143 Před 2 lety +15

      Except Popo

    • @Marconel100
      @Marconel100 Před 2 lety +9

      @@SmugStick But piccolo knows, he could tell the others :P if he wasn't obliterated.. I doubt goku knows about his regenerative abilities at that point.

    • @fastone5874
      @fastone5874 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Marconel100 ik piccolo has some impressive regeneration but there is no way he could survive that or else he would be cell level of regeneration where a small part of him not dying immediately can make him fully regenerate

    • @Marconel100
      @Marconel100 Před 2 lety +3

      @@fastone5874 Where do you think cell got his regeneration ability? And remember when he was a broken statue? He was able to heal ALL of that back.... you can't deny that he is capable of healing that attack...

  • @hunterv9983
    @hunterv9983 Před 2 lety +646

    I have a slight idea for a future story. What if Kami decides to train more? After Goku defeats King Piccolo, Kami saw how beat up Goku was, and decides to train nonstop in case someone comes around who is even stronger than Goku and Piccolo's heir.

  • @nicholas2153
    @nicholas2153 Před 2 lety +78

    Honestly the idea of Goku having such a massive change to his character without turning him into a fully evil Goku is very interesting. As well as making him so strong this early in the story. You have also done a big change to his dynamic with his friends seeing as he's not viewed as a savior or an ally to them anymore. This makes this situation so much more unpredictable since Goku isn't really on anyone's side right now. If Raditz attacks him, he's his enemy but if the Earth forces attack him then they are his enemies. This apathetic position he is in right now has alot of potential for storytelling.
    Now some people might think Goku being OP at the start is bad (I'm thinking more of the "Goku always wins" crowd rather than anyone else.) but seeing as Goku was beaten a lot through the Z portion of Dragon Ball I view this as a big change and an interesting one since he's not technically on the Earth's side. After all there are other planets and right now all he cares about is training. There are a lot of ways this story could go.

  • @waltyworld6789
    @waltyworld6789 Před 2 lety +1

    man you really raised the bar for what-ifs! you're awesome man

  • @godzillakingofthemonsters5812

    An apathetic Goku is something I'd never thought I'd see and would genuinely be a lot more dangerous than just someone evil since they're so unpredictable.

  • @ProfessorChimpYT
    @ProfessorChimpYT Před 2 lety +82

    See, if Kami had just eaten a Snickers, none of this would’ve happened

  • @Replicatte
    @Replicatte Před 2 lety +44

    Not gonna lie, this is a fresh What if I've heard in a while. I can't wait to see how it'll affect the rest of the arcs. Awesome job! ^^

  • @elvisushindi2584
    @elvisushindi2584 Před 2 lety +28

    Wow, now this is an interesting what if! Goku being betrayed by Kami and becoming apathetic is certainly very good. I'm very looking forward to part 2

  • @Splunky420
    @Splunky420 Před 2 lety +597

    Goku didn't attack them, they attacked him and he only defended himself. He showed it by not attacking anyone after Kami died.

  • @Weiser_Gaming
    @Weiser_Gaming Před 2 lety +54

    Kami: I’m afraid of Goku becoming another Piccolo, so I’m going to insure he becomes another Piccolo.

  • @maxhydekyle2425
    @maxhydekyle2425 Před 2 lety +13

    "I am no longer the Namekian you knew"
    "I know. Now you're both of the people I want to kill"
    "Oh. Oh crap."

  • @dsm2417
    @dsm2417 Před 2 lety +5

    This is the best and most accurate “Goku gets betrayed” story I’ve seen, and not everyone trying killing each other for no reason lol

  • @TerraEmperor1
    @TerraEmperor1 Před 2 lety +205

    This is super sad. I like that you made him apathetic instead of full blown evil. I think that once we get into the Buu saga we'll see Gokus power level out some because of the unorthodox opponents. Looking forward to see that you come up with

  • @warriorofthefourthstar1627
    @warriorofthefourthstar1627 Před 2 lety +239

    This is definitely an unconventional what-if. Guess we get to see where this goes.

  • @Kiko_mirai
    @Kiko_mirai Před 2 lety +4

    I appreciate these type of stories, where the story isn't just "what if Goku was just stronger" but rather an actual story change that changes the story itself. That's why I like the what if Goku and Vegeta went back in time and masakoX's what if trunks went too far back in time. Keep up the banger content dude.

  • @Reptar230
    @Reptar230 Před 2 lety +2

    NAH BRO CONTINUE THIS PERFECTION!!!!

  • @sagetheassassin3192
    @sagetheassassin3192 Před 2 lety +79

    Kami: Yeets Goku in the Time Chamber
    Goku: *Ok no more Mr. Nice Guy*

  • @SWyrick366
    @SWyrick366 Před 2 lety +228

    I don't think Goku is a bad guy here, just the epitomy of an anti-hero.

    • @kriegermaria9923
      @kriegermaria9923 Před 2 lety +11

      You be locked and lied to once trust is gone i mean it its hard to get people to trust you again

    • @kriegermaria9923
      @kriegermaria9923 Před 2 lety +1

      Even through goku gave freezer to much of redeming chances he never took

    • @kriegermaria9923
      @kriegermaria9923 Před 2 lety

      Im sad through its like chichi and gokus love was over of he stopped caring for earth

    • @kriegermaria9923
      @kriegermaria9923 Před 2 lety

      He dont care is sad were is gohan and goten no existing hmm end well no ultra instinct

    • @chariotrequiem5465
      @chariotrequiem5465 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kriegermaria9923 I think you need to learn about the period button 💀

  • @TheeGlobFather
    @TheeGlobFather Před 2 lety +1

    "hey, this kid scares me. let's lock him in a room that gives you nearly endless time compared to outside, where he'll grow endlessly more powerful much faster than should be normal, and hope he doesn't go mad."

  • @king_of_frauds
    @king_of_frauds Před 2 lety +1

    Cell: "Welp, bye bye Earth"
    Buu: "Bye bye Universe 7"

  • @MinhLe19303
    @MinhLe19303 Před 2 lety +367

    So Goku become a true anti-hero, that's an interesting take. I hope this what-if have a reconciliation arc with Goku and the Z-Fighters and for Goku to return to his former self.

    • @devonstidham9234
      @devonstidham9234 Před 2 lety +11

      Probably be Bulma she was the first person he met after grandpa Gohan.

    • @lod4246
      @lod4246 Před 2 lety +31

      1 month in the time chamber = 30 years, 30 years of being trapped in there. I doubt he'd ever return to his former self.

    • @valtaoiyt8517
      @valtaoiyt8517 Před 2 lety +11

      @@lod4246 yea unless bulma makes à brain reset button or managés to get the namek dragon balls the change gokus mind and bodyto what itshould be at that Doubs it would happen

    • @fastone5874
      @fastone5874 Před 2 lety +7

      @@valtaoiyt8517 true but i don’t want smug stick to do that as that kinda takes away what makes this story special cause if they do that we get another what if where goku is op and that’s much less special than having a goku who’s a neutral wild card

    • @valtaoiyt8517
      @valtaoiyt8517 Před 2 lety +2

      @@fastone5874 yea so it won't hqppen

  • @paquitootd920
    @paquitootd920 Před 2 lety +48

    As a Spanish speaker, before i started watching your channel I watched a lot of Spanish scenarios involving Goku getting betrayed. Honestly only a few could make it interesting but that’s about it. When I watched your channel I thought “finally interesting and organized story!” So glad I found your channel 😮‍💨😆

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +5

      Haha, well it makes me happy that you like how I write and organise my what ifs. Hope that you enjoyed this video, and thank you for your continued support!

  • @MUSEIGENHonokaTV
    @MUSEIGENHonokaTV Před 2 měsíci +3

    So, this is the what if that began the chain...

  • @shadowtale1173
    @shadowtale1173 Před rokem +1

    The og story that made almost every new what if someone was in the time chamber

  • @theender9928
    @theender9928 Před 2 lety +139

    SmugStick, We need a Part 2, This Story was Amazing!

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +37

      Thank you for your support! Seeing such a positive reaction to a crazy what if makes me just want to work on part 2 even more!

    • @insomnia9473
      @insomnia9473 Před 2 lety +8

      @@SmugStick Man this is aweasome im sure everyone loves this!

  • @brandoncsb3636
    @brandoncsb3636 Před 2 lety +106

    Turned out better than I thought. Okay, let's see a part 2.

  • @mmunson17
    @mmunson17 Před 2 lety +1

    I need more, I like how u jus made him not hate his friends and not care anymore..not a bad guy but an anti hero

  • @TheMan8884
    @TheMan8884 Před 2 lety +2

    1:02 first HUGE PLOT HOLE: Goku as kid had no evil proof: When devil man from babas saga used devil beam on Goku if there was even a little of negativity inside Goku: He would die. Goku survived, as a kid he has no NEGATIVITY
    2:03 Second HUGE PLOT HOLE: Goku almost died spending 1 mounth in hyperbolic time chamber. So most likely he would just die.

  • @Jodipo
    @Jodipo Před 2 lety +118

    As a spanish-speaking Dragon Ball fan, this feels bizarre yet epic. XD

    • @Paputron3000
      @Paputron3000 Před 2 lety +6

      Yup XD

    • @MasterCode86
      @MasterCode86 Před 2 lety +6

      glad i am not the only one that was suprised when they saw this plot device being used by an actually good dbz youtuber.

    • @mrbubl33s
      @mrbubl33s Před 2 lety

      Ya sé! No hay muchos youtubers como SmugStick de Dragon Ball en español 😢

    • @jayxcv5409
      @jayxcv5409 Před 2 lety

      What if Goku fucked Vados amigos?

    • @MasterCode86
      @MasterCode86 Před 2 lety

      @@jayxcv5409 espera, espera, pidele un milagro a la vez. 🤣

  • @SealStealer.
    @SealStealer. Před 2 lety +426

    Since Buu had to slightly strain himself to get out of the time chamber, that could mean that goku at his max could be about where super buu is while slightly suppressed

    • @SealStealer.
      @SealStealer. Před 2 lety +49

      also seeing that goku can keep up with piccolo as a super Saiyan 1 means that he is likely at a post mecha frieza level at super Saiyan 1 alone (note piccolo does not have nail or the training that he would so he is not as strong as he would be) so we can ascertain that goku is atleast at the power of two mecha friezas combined, or at max probably fat buu

    • @lancecadiz1253
      @lancecadiz1253 Před 2 lety +15

      @@SealStealer. i'd put him at perfect cell levels maybe a bit weaker than teen SSJ2 gohan you can probably make an argument where he is as strong as cell saga mastered SSJ goku

    • @SealStealer.
      @SealStealer. Před 2 lety +12

      @@lancecadiz1253 that would just about make sense given the range, it would also make sense that he'd only be there after 30 years considering lack of zenkais, training partners, or experience. Seems rather reasonable to me

    • @nixonandrew3834
      @nixonandrew3834 Před 2 lety +4

      @@lancecadiz1253 30 years should put goku way above ss2 Gohan. He had a lot of food so yes he'll be gaining zenkai

    • @nixonandrew3834
      @nixonandrew3834 Před 2 lety +5

      @@SealStealer. goku don't need training partner to get stronger. Look how strong he got during his trip to namek

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock Před 2 lety +1

    Making Goku go SSJ was entirely unecessesary. But making him into an untrusting loner was a fitting ending. He lived alone for a very long time, made friends, then got betrayed and made to stay alone for 30 years. Then asked for help all of a sudden... Yeah he's definitenly going to be unhapp with that. Probably gonna have a fear of closed doors for the rest of his life too. He'd be a super strong Yajirobe. But, in that sense, i think he might still come around the help the cast if they need it. But that all depends on Raditz. Goku being this strong, traveling and surviving off the land, fighting masters wherever he can, just enjoying life and never trusting people... He'd be strong enough to beat Raditz without a doubt. But would he be willing to trust his brother? Or is that still asking too much of him? Would he be up for joining Raditz and letting him take the planet for Freiza.
    A goku thta joins Raditz, tells them about teh dragonballs, and ends up on a mission to Namek with the other saiyans would be amazing. Especially since Goku would be seeing so many Kamis, I think his good heart would be challenged here. Would he care if the Namekians died? Maybe he'd enjoy it. Truly this would be the worst situation for his wavering moral, in leading him to a darker path.
    If Vegeta talks about a plan to betray Frieza, I think that word along might upset Goku, but once he knows what Frieza did, I think he'd go along with the plan. Vegeta would become immortal, and with 2 more wishes, Goku could become immortal, and then Nappa and Raditz would begin to fight over the last wish. Goku would be confused, counting on his fingers. Oh right, 4 saiyans, 3 wishes. Nappa overpowers Raditz and is about to make his wish, when Vegeta kills him. Stating his dislike for Nappa, he lets Raditz take the last wish. Mostly because he wants to keep Goku happy. Goku being the only other saiyan he'd respect.
    See this is the ACTUALLY interesting part of this what-if. Goku, Vegeta, and Raditz as immortals. Goku probably taught those two some tricks as well from his time on Earth, and then comes an angry Frieza. It would be quite an impressive battle, that would lead to Frieza going to his final form and then wiping the floor with the saiyans. Realising he cant kill them this way through, stranding them in space will do. So he aims to blow up the planet. Frieza taunts them at being stuck floating in an endless void, whilst shooting beams into Raditz.
    Goku, feeling hopeless, but more than that, feeling scared of a fate that would put him back into a black version of that white room. And now that he's immortal, the suffering would never ever end. His dispair would evelop him and turn into a golden glow. THIS is when he'd go SSJ. Yes his base form is already stronger than it was in the canon, and arriving on Namek a year early is not going to do anything to weaken him, but I do think that without Kaioken, Goku would still need to go SSJ to beat frieza. So he kills the tyrant and then the 3 saiyans flee the planet. Exploding behind them and destroying what is left of Frieza's body.
    Vegeta eager to remind everyone that he is of royal blood, wants to kill King Cold and take his throne. So teh ship flies to Cold's place, Frieza's few remaining forces now loyal to Vegeta. Goku would spend his time trying to control his new form and help the other two achieve it.
    Given how little time they have, and their weaker power levels, I think Goku would still be the only SSJ by the time they fight Cold (and cooler?) and Vegeta becomes Prince of the universe.
    After this, Goku asks him to free the planets Frieza conquered. After arguing, I think he'd get him to agree to free Earth, for it to no longer be on sale and so on. Instead offering for Earthlings to become part of their space forces. Afterall, the worst ones were the Namekians, not the humans. The Earth should not pay for what Kami did.
    This leaves Dr Gero alive, who just might sign up to the Vegeta Forces and gather far more data that he could imagine. This would result in androids that might not even have human bases. Instead being augmented aliens. Or, maybe he recruits the Z warriors to use, telling them he can help them beat Vegeta and stop his reign over the universe. Cell would be an especially scary creature in this timeline.
    I also wonder if Bulma would make her way to top scientist so she can visit Goku and try to reason with him. And then yell at Vegeta for being a dick. Which just might still result in a romance. I see no chance of Goku getting together with ChiChi in this timeline.
    The android saga, future Trunks, Cell, it woul all be too different to continue talking about here. It would be wild though. This premise has way too much potential.

  • @d3rp97
    @d3rp97 Před 2 lety +4

    so basically he becomes a allternate broly

  • @blooddemon3379
    @blooddemon3379 Před 2 lety +50

    Kami fr turned Goku from Good to Chaotic Neutral in a month. Damn that's crazy

    • @doubledio3061
      @doubledio3061 Před 2 lety +9

      To be fair to Goku , it was 30 years for him

    • @bigimolethomas370
      @bigimolethomas370 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean Goku basically experienced white room torture for 30 years with training.

  • @OfficialCyaned
    @OfficialCyaned Před 2 lety +133

    I've never heard of the "betrayal" DBZ stories, so I'm interested how this is going to play out

    • @johnkenrickchua1811
      @johnkenrickchua1811 Před 2 lety +5

      go search "Goku Traicionado(Betrayed in Spanish) on Goggle some stories will show up even tho most are post Tournament of Power.

    • @charlitbeet5448
      @charlitbeet5448 Před 2 lety +2

      I´m surprise by how native english speakers seem never to have heard about of these stories, because in the spanish comunnity, the goku betrayed are so, SO overexploited. If you can undertand spanish, i don´t recommend that watch these What If, because many times they contradicted the original history, and example, Gokú can´t escape of the hypervolic time chamber, even thought him is more stronger than Super Gotenks 3.

    • @lundoren5240
      @lundoren5240 Před 2 lety

      @@charlitbeet5448 which channels have good Spanish what ifs

  • @Clash_781
    @Clash_781 Před 2 lety

    Popo:Good thing gokus not evil
    Kami:Are you sure about that

  • @HH-cs5uo
    @HH-cs5uo Před 2 lety +1

    i’ve seen this what if before in the spanish side and its fun to see your take on it

  • @Trap5656
    @Trap5656 Před 2 lety +288

    Eh never really was a fan of whole X person betrayed said person/main character what ifs, but It was interesting hearing your take on this idea. Although I wonder what the humans will do now. 🤔 I highly doubt Goku will trust Raditz here, because what Kami did. Anyways interesting take on this what if idea, and looking forward to your next video soon.

  • @sheldonp.2976
    @sheldonp.2976 Před 2 lety +1

    Def ready for part 2

  • @CyanicCore
    @CyanicCore Před 2 lety +4

    While I've never seen one of the other takes on the scenario, this one felt terrific? I wouldn't say it was perfect, with the leap to violence on the others' part and toying around just a little too unnatural at their respective times, details like his smirking and looking for the dragonball were chillingly genuine. The credits stated he was unrefined - a little odd based on his previous skillset, but with all that time he has to have some sort of weakness, this indeed being a good one.
    P.S. Piccolo fusing with Kami is interesting - he shouldn't be as powerful as in Z without training/Nail, but the event was also somehow the perfect way to create a challenge!

  • @zack_red5
    @zack_red5 Před 2 lety +64

    I like this kind of outlandish style but still somewhat sensible unlike some others.
    I hope we get to see a part 2.

  • @OnyxXThePunch
    @OnyxXThePunch Před 2 lety +57

    I like how he still couldn't kill his friends even tho he couldn't trust them
    I hope this continues and chichi slowly wins gokus trust although he should definitely stay nuts lol

    • @kriegermaria9923
      @kriegermaria9923 Před 2 lety +1

      She is his wife or arent they married yet shes still here in her db out so i guess not means gohan not born yet or goten

    • @OnyxXThePunch
      @OnyxXThePunch Před 2 lety +5

      @@kriegermaria9923 he was trapped as a little boy there not married

  • @kingkryptic9693
    @kingkryptic9693 Před 2 lety +1

    This is a very creative concept. Despite Goku not being completely evil I think this is the best evil Goku/Kakorot what if I've ever seen in a what if. The short 8 minute story made me go through a range of emotions and thoughts but, that ending got me super hype! If you are making more parts I can NOT wait for it and see where the story goes frokm here.

    • @yefthechef_
      @yefthechef_ Před 2 lety

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  • @natsudorifuto5895
    @natsudorifuto5895 Před 2 lety +1

    Ay yo? I'm looking forward for episode 2!

  • @christopherdopfel6514
    @christopherdopfel6514 Před 2 lety +25

    That final line really made my mouth drop, I never even thought of it like that but damn that's cool. Can't wait for the next part

  • @doubledio3061
    @doubledio3061 Před 2 lety +22

    So basically Goku becomes akuma from street fighter .
    That being said , I think the only flaw in this what if is a little lack of communication between the characters. Goku doesn’t tell his friends what happened to him and piccolo with kami in him didn’t explain why he sealed Goku away . I think if they talked the story would change a little bit atleast

    • @donflamingo5685
      @donflamingo5685 Před 2 lety +4

      Facts tien wouldn't go crazy he'd do a solar flare and leave. And so would yamcha. Krillin would probably stay to talk to goku.

  • @amvshiegionbays759
    @amvshiegionbays759 Před 2 lety +1

    Part 2 please this was super good

  • @lunarmoondust2184
    @lunarmoondust2184 Před 2 lety +1

    Cant wait for part 2 dude this is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @epiceditz4860
    @epiceditz4860 Před 2 lety +20

    This definitely needs a part 2 one of the best what ifs ive seen

  • @getlostinmyeyes3713
    @getlostinmyeyes3713 Před 2 lety +23

    This one definitely needs more parts! I love your rendition of this concept

  • @-MXXI-
    @-MXXI- Před 2 lety +1

    This is a great concept!

  • @_aspect_lmao_8620
    @_aspect_lmao_8620 Před 2 lety +1

    Aye! This is a banger. Need new part

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 Před 2 lety +41

    I actually came back to watch this because the story’s idea is way better. I dislike all the concepts where a characters turns evil just like that, only exception being db after. This feels like a better, more gradual transformation for Goku, while keeping the original story intact.

  • @exurtachainedn9
    @exurtachainedn9 Před 2 lety +62

    I like the concept and story but Goku going SS2 against piccolo is too soon for the rest of the story to be competitive. At this point he should just wait for the androids or cell to show up and by then he'll be SS3 at least

    • @xenomi.1s
      @xenomi.1s Před 2 lety +11

      For a sec, I thought Goku doesn't have a tail. Then I remembered that Kami didnt erase Goku's tail permanently, so yeah, he going monke mode in cell saga.

    • @djjackson8628
      @djjackson8628 Před 2 lety +4

      The only character in the dbz story that can compete with goku is cell and that depends on he the author does him. Going by that time chamber feat, goku is at least super buu level at the end of og dragon ball. By the time buu comes goku will far outclassed him.

  • @sub_emo_femboy_hoff2315

    Amazing video. Ive watched all in this series back to back. Been a Dragonball franchise fan since i was 5. Im turning 22 this year on november 9th

  • @8thgod769
    @8thgod769 Před 2 lety

    More stuff like this is what we need bro like this is actually like “ what’s going on?” This feels different fr

  • @bluefire1118
    @bluefire1118 Před 2 lety +21

    PLEASE have a part 2! This is such an interesting story!!

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +5

      Really glad that you enjoyed it that much!

  • @serketenglish5963
    @serketenglish5963 Před 2 lety +56

    SmugStick, I absolutely love how far out this What If is! All the other What Ifs are always decently simple changes that cause big consequences, but this just screams "Go big or go home!" lol

  • @Caragoner
    @Caragoner Před 2 lety +2

    In less than 1 day, you more than doubled the like goal, holy CRAP this was cool and I cant WAIT for part 2, I hope you keep up with the original story, even if it has some similar story beats, those are my favorites

  • @MemeLord-km2iu
    @MemeLord-km2iu Před 2 lety

    Krillin: you saved us
    Goku: I did not save you think of it as under new management

  • @SharkSoros
    @SharkSoros Před 2 lety +15

    We differently need a part 2!
    Great Job SmugStick!

  • @vishwanathakrishnamurthy4840

    upload the part 2 as soon as possible. This series will be amazing

  • @BRADDERZ2K8
    @BRADDERZ2K8 Před 2 lety +1

    Can we all just agree that the time dilation from the room wouldn't of been there yet in the story until about this point and as such can be ignored for the sake of a fun what if video

  • @ShiroSeishi
    @ShiroSeishi Před 2 lety +1

    Yoo this was awesome more plz

  • @sirnutaku7716
    @sirnutaku7716 Před 2 lety +19

    As a spanish person myself I can confirm that yes the spanish side does love this what if but they take it a bit tooo far sometimes

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah I agree. I hope my rendition manages to remain realistic rather than too extreme

    • @sirnutaku7716
      @sirnutaku7716 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SmugStick Yeah I love this what if, I feel like this is more realistic

  • @MasterThanatos1301
    @MasterThanatos1301 Před 2 lety +25

    I think this version of Goku would eventually be a lot like kid Buu
    Just pure insanity as a force of destruction

  • @desertsandfly2277
    @desertsandfly2277 Před 2 lety

    Raditz: We finally meet Kakarot! I'm raditz! Your *older brother.*
    Goku: *Laughs in his mid 40s*

  • @richardbaran60
    @richardbaran60 Před 2 lety

    This is just insane! A timeline where Goku goes nuts and loses his forever living sh!t ,ah!! I love this!

  • @TerraZ4
    @TerraZ4 Před 2 lety +34

    Amazing What-If! Honestly I'm really excited to see if this gets more parts, especially if we get to see what a super buffed up and serious Goku would do if he met Frieza and the rest of the other Saiyans. Or if Trunks came back in time and saw the absolute chaos that the timeline was going through.

  • @theultimatememelord5494
    @theultimatememelord5494 Před 2 lety +5

    Your one of the only people I've seen who actually had a script for those specific scenarios.

  • @x1n00bie
    @x1n00bie Před 2 lety

    I love how at 12:08 it was just a dbfz base Goku combo in training

  • @drainspeeder
    @drainspeeder Před 2 lety +1

    THIS SERIES IS SO GOOD I ALREADY CAN'T GET ENOUGH!

  • @magueyeseck7382
    @magueyeseck7382 Před 2 lety +8

    Goku but with Broly-like personality. Good job! Can't wait for Part 2!

  • @djjackson8628
    @djjackson8628 Před 2 lety +42

    Going by that time chamber feat, goku has to be super buu level. That would mean the only villain from the z series that can potentially give goku problems is cell, and that also depends on how you do him. The saiyans, frieza, androids won't be a problem. If he keeps training he will be stronger then buu by the time he comes.

  • @asumotouchiha3667
    @asumotouchiha3667 Před 2 lety

    Bro this is soooo good pls part 2 3 4 and more keep up the good work

  • @timothyhales7104
    @timothyhales7104 Před 2 lety

    The title had me iffy at first but once you explained it it all made sense, i forgot that kami did originally think about doing it

  • @phoenixthehedgehogelitetas1667

    I’ve been listening to what ifs all day and…honestly, this is the most intriguing one I’ve come across. I really hope this gets a continuation.

  • @Aries_Army
    @Aries_Army Před 2 lety +7

    Never clicked on a video so fast in my life. I’m so hyped!!!

  • @R6L6N6
    @R6L6N6 Před 2 lety

    Yoooooo. The endinggggg. You got mee!!!

  • @younggoat999
    @younggoat999 Před 2 lety +1

    Please part 2 this was awesome

  • @drewgrondalski6928
    @drewgrondalski6928 Před 2 lety +9

    Can't wait for the next part of this.

  • @krystalhero1918
    @krystalhero1918 Před 2 lety +10

    I've loved this What If, as I've seen other what if goku was betrayed what if, but doesn't have that same energy you give. I was always wanting to see a What if of Goku being betrayed in someway. I would like to see a next part and future what if goku was betrayed in other ways in the future such as what if his friends and family betrayed him maybe because of all the villains coming because of him or something, who knows. But even if that doesn't happen, I would love to see more things like this. Keep up the good work SmugStick!

  • @sonamsherpa2658
    @sonamsherpa2658 Před 2 lety +1

    Woah 😮 , popo found something cruel even for him

  • @guyonabus
    @guyonabus Před 2 lety +2

    Damn when we getting a part 2?

  • @jeremyjean-pierre4977
    @jeremyjean-pierre4977 Před 2 lety +12

    Glad to see a part 2 is coming. This Goku seems like his pure hearted persona was corrupted into what could have been Kakarott without brain damage. I wonder if he’ll remain a lone wolf and live for himself or if he’ll bond more with his brother and identify himself as a Saiyan.
    I don’t think Vegeta would tolerate him due to his power. It would be interesting if Vegeta challenged Goku for the position of leader among their group and lost so that Goku becomes unwillingly the leader. Vegeta would then try to regain his position as royalty. This could be an interesting dynamic.
    Once Frieza is dead, maybe Goku would decide to use Earth to rebuild the Saiyan race (I’m sure Nappa and Raditz would want that so Goku would go along with it) that or bringing back planet Vegeta

  • @sashanksriram8942
    @sashanksriram8942 Před 2 lety +4

    Holy! This was awesome! We need a part 2!

  • @___launch3735
    @___launch3735 Před 2 lety

    Part 2 pls, i can already see the success in this and the build up is crazy, the fans will love a part 2, much love to you🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @matthewwyers4342
    @matthewwyers4342 Před 2 lety

    I'm watching several fan stories. Need more of this.

  • @ZexalDSJAsh
    @ZexalDSJAsh Před 2 lety +55

    Haha. 2 hours in, and already nearly at 4k likes. No doubt about. This DEFINITELY needs a part 2. I definitely enjoyed this story. At first, i thought the video was frozen on the first picture, but it turned out that this was just one picture during the entire thing. Really great work. Please keep it up my dude. Looking forward to part 2.
    Edit: okay yeah. My YT app glitched out. XD

    • @SmugStick
      @SmugStick  Před 2 lety +3

      LMFAO I’m glad you enjoyed it.

    • @ZexalDSJAsh
      @ZexalDSJAsh Před 2 lety

      @@SmugStick Lol thanks. I'm really looking forward to seeing the next episode, if it comes out. ^^

    • @gamingforlife2232
      @gamingforlife2232 Před 2 lety

      @@SmugStick broo you messed up the timeline lmaooo

  • @nyronmarshall3679
    @nyronmarshall3679 Před 2 lety +7

    Oh lord ha' murcy! This was incredible! I hope a part 2's on the way soon!

  • @khallous
    @khallous Před 2 lety +1

    I was hesitant at first about this but I ended up LOVING this what if. Would genuinely love to see it depicting in a fan manga

  • @adamokon358
    @adamokon358 Před 2 lety +1

    This story needs a second part, just like What if Goku was RAISED by King Piccolo? I just like it when goku (not Goku Black) turns evil. Like always great work.