If You See This When Buying a Car, Run and Call the Police
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- Car scam to avoid. If You See This on a Car, Run and Call the Police, DIY and car review Scotty Kilmer. Car scams explained. How to tell if an odometer has been rolled back. Car odometer rollback scam. How scammers roll back odometers to get more money for a used car. How not to get scammed. How to avoid car scams. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 56 years.
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If you choose to buy a used EV you might find yourself in repair "Hell" you can also get a deal on a Jaguar,but historically they are a rolling money pit!
Thank you Scotty Sir for being active on CZcams for so many years I absolutely love this channel
I was able to find it on ebay from your video. it says 'mt 401 car odometer' right on your phone screen.
@@LtJackbootyes and he also read out what it was but anyone can search odometer tools and find them.
This video is so bad. "I'm not going to show you the exact thing because I'm not going to help people roll back odometers to rip people off." Then he immediately helps people by: showing a picture of the device, telling you it's on ebay and telling you the exact price...
Here's one for you Scotty. I had a used car and it looked pretty good, but after a short time it started falling apart. The turbo charger was over boosting and blew up the motor. First it blew the head gasket, then it destroyed the motor. The trans burned up, the brakes stopped working. I kept taking it to the dealer and they supposedly fixed it, but it just kept getting worse. Finally, I had it towed to the dealer for the 10th time, and they replaced the engine. I got the car back after it sat in the dealer's back lot for the whole winter. I went to pick it up and I was met in the service dept. by the dealer owner, the service manager, and a mechanic. I was told "don't bring it back." I told him that when I drive it out, I would take it down the road. I got 1 mile away and the engine over boosted, and it shut off. I took a picture and the only thing you could see through the smoke, was one taillight. I went back and told them to fix it. It was then that they told me the warrantee is past and I had to pay for any more repairs. While the car was spending its winter covered in snow in the back lot, it accumulated 20,000 miles, pretty surprising, seeing as in 3 years, the car was in my possession for less that 6 months. The rest of the time, it was parked at the dealership. I had bought 2 tires right before its last trip to the back lot and the tire place wrote down the mileage, which was 20,000 miles less. I had them by the short hairs, my lawyer salivated, and the judge agreed with us. When they heard that I was going for triple damages, his lawyer called my lawyer and offered to: 1. Take the car. 2. pay me for any repairs I had done. 3. Pay for my new tires. 4. Pay for my lawyer. I watched from my porch as the tow truck disappeared down the street.
They had turned to odometer forward 20,000 miles to get out of the warrantee!
What a story! Was car from a large dealer (Ford, etc.) or from one of those dealers that only sell used cars?
That is crazy who wouldn't notice there vehicle has a extra 20000k on it that's alot.
WOW! I guess now we have to worry about that as well. Sorry to hear about the hell you went through. Just don't brush all dealerships/mechanics with the same brush. It's the small percentage that gives the whole a bad reputation.
How about tell them give me a new car off the lot because this one is a lemon!
Why would you stick with a car after the first problem occured, seems like u brought this on urself by keeping that "car" get ur self a bicycle and be happy
Jay Leno tells a story. He worked at a dealer years ago. His job was odometer recalibration. Self-explanatory.
"Recalibration"... 😂
That is why in the early 80s the Federal govt made rolling back odometers a felony.
@@timothythompson4036 So they started rolling it forward
@@timothythompson4036 They used to say that old cars were worn out after 100k miles. I bet the vast majority of them had 2x that mileage and just got rolled back every time they got traded in.
I took scottys advice, i seen an odometer when buying a car so i ran and called the police. I ended up being tazed and facing trespassing charges along with a hospital bill, court date and no car.
NotSure about this 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
@melissasmess2773 yeah, it's true. I went to Hertz to get a cheap Tesla scotty was talking about. I don't know about taking advice from this guy
Too funny!
Except you don't bother to explain WHY YOU WERE TAZED.
Scotty gives you the advice.
How you choose to use it is your benefit/problem.
My guess is you make a lot of bad decisions.
Only buy cars without an odometer ! A hamster on a wheel is the best replacement for the odometer .
I like how Scotty explains the same thing four times in different ways
Now this is imprinted in to me.
The way he explains the same thing in four different ways is what I like best about his videos.
I like his explanations, which he tends to do in four different ways.
Four different ways to explain everything, is usually how he does things... which is what I like best about his videos.
i have found, its sometimes because people somehow misunderstand what he says, and other times its because he doesnt like how he explained it the first time lol
It's a myth that you could put a drill in the back of the old odometers or put the car in reverse and run the odometer backwards. The gears had a one way clutch to prevent exactly that. As a dealer mechanic in the '70s I had to replace speedometer heads under warranty in some cars. The new speedometer came with instructions on how to set the odometer to the current mileage. I became an expert at this.
New cars I think, have the actual mileage stored in the main computer. It doesn't matter what the digital readout says. That's why you can buy those devices to change the readout. You need the car manufacturers propriety software to see the actual mileage in the computer.
Some much older cars you could, not every car odo make had clutches.
Not a myth, my friends dad was a traveling salesman and bought a Mazda in early 80’s and would take thousands of miles off it regularly when back home to keep it under warranty, I saw it happening in his garage!
Yes you could. It was possible on my old car. While there was a factory seal on the odometer cable behind the indicator panel, there was none on the gearbox. So it was even easier to unplug the cable from the gearbox, attach it to the drill and roll the mileage. There were many old cars that had only a 5 digit odometer and even with a clutch preventing rollback it was pretty easy to roll over forward and jump to 0.
He talks about that gear preventing rollback in the video. There were ways around that, too, though, apparently. In any case, the various changes to cars were not uniformly adopted over the years. When these things happened varies by model and manufacturer. That goes for any feature like ABS, power steering, various anti theft measures, etc.
Reminds me of that we purchased a Honda CRV back in 2007 in Minnesota with the engine warning light plugged out. Turned out to have only 3 cylinders running with a molten exhaust valve. Suspected due to some excessive vibration. The guy sold was a decent looking in his 60's. So many crooks.
An advantage of a car with manual transmission is that when the car has high mileage, they need to replace the clutch and the bolts will be touched. So, nobody can hide it and you will notice it, regardless of the odometer saying.
In an AT car you can check the fluid color and match it against the mileage
On manual transmission there's usually two outstanding tell tales! The pedals rubber covers both the brake and the clutch scream kilometers' ;-) Sellers seldom get new ones. Well, and if it's new than you also know on the spot. LOL 😂 😂
When you see the "as new" used car with only 50k kilometers. Driven only by that famous old lady. You know, the one that never touch her car! And when she does never drive above 50km/h!
That lady seems to be everywhere on used car lots. LOL 😂 😂
Which states DON'T allow Carfax to collect & report the mileage history in the report? Seems like a stupid thing to do...
Scotty, great video and great call out. That is clearly a scam to get your CC. Sorry to say there are so many people that actually fall for sites like that. It’s so sad and people info gets used and sold.
So sad people fall for Scotty.
Many quick change oil places keep a record of the oil changes done on a car for insurance reasons. You might take the VIN and check around with local oil change places. It might work.
Carfax is perfect to check this
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Only as good as what is reported to them. Not every business is logging stuff in and reporting it.
This information is worth of GOLD! Thank you Scotty
A point on the old mechanical odometers, if the number wheels are not perfectly even, walk away. It`s been tampered with.
Heard that from my dad when I was10 in '67 ..always believed that to be true 👍
WRONG! Way back when I was young in the 60's I watched a few smart guys dismantle the odometers completely, set them to lower numbers, reassemble then and the numbers were spot on and aligned perfectly. They would take clusters from bone yards, completely restore them with the odometers set to all zeroes and then sell them as NIB parts! Those guys made money hand over fist and no one but me and their friends ever knew. Not being able to reset them and have the numbers not line up is an absolute myth. The method to do it properly is just not well known.
@@steveforbes7718 wtf do you mean "wrong"? There's nothing wrong with the OP, dropkick.
@@CadillacDriver There WAS a line someone had posted that when "resetting" or after the ODO's had gone over 100K, that the numbers could not be aligned properly. Either it was further down or someone removed it. That is to what I was referring. He specifically mentioned cars from the 1960s and that is where things get interesting. It wasn't until into the 89's when odometers started showing that extra digit. IF the car can only display up to 99,999.9 miles AND the ODO does not line up then definitely don't buy it. However, it is possible to reset them so that they DO line up. At least, that's with the older mechanical devices.
That is what I was trying to convey. Apparently, I either lost the original comment, entered mine in the wrong spot, or both. The overall message was to be that the older mechanical odometers could be reset to any number including all zeros and that the numbers could be made to line up thereby hiding the fact that the meter had been reset.
I apologize if I failed to make my point clear enough.
Or it's an 80's mercedes and its spinning on the shaft and no longer counting
I saw a 2010 Corolla with only 5600 miles with CARFAX information on a Toyota dealer’s lot in 2013. The exterior and interior were immaculate. The OEM tires looked brand new. Everybody wanted an SUV, so the dealer was keen to unload it. I bought it for 60% of its original price. Today it has 137k miles and runs like a clock. Thank you Scotty for your advice!
Even if it had 200+K on it,
it would still be a good car!
Look at the pedals -- they are a great sanity check on mileage. I got in the habit of doing this on older cars where the odometer rolls over so something like 5K could be 105K, 205K, etc. Pedals tell a great story -- they should look brand new under 20,000 miles.
You can buy new pedal rubbers for pennies ,so this comment is total nonsense.
@@1gerard47 That also leaves clues. Classic car shoppers know what to look for.
@@1gerard47 - It's obvious you are clueless. LOL 😂 😂
Very worn out tells you a story. So, does brand new pedal rubber covers! ;-)
I ran into 2 separate times when I was buying a car 2 years ago. Always run your own carfax report, even at a used car dealership. And make sure the vin numbers match when you go see the car.
I mounted my Accessport on the A-pillar. I selected speed and RPM for the upper frames of the display. It’s digital numbers but it’s not a problem for me. And it’s closer to the view out the windshield. Now I prefer it to looking down at the dashboard.
Hey Scotty, years back my father in law owned an 86 Continental with the full digital cluster. He was told that there was a mechanical odometer somewhere under the dash so that if the dash was ever replaced, they could look at the true miles?
And truthfully, these are also easy to replace with one from a salvage yard.
Back in the days if you rebuilt an engine you could take the car to the DMV for recertification and have the odom rolled back as part of its recertification as almost new. We did a Newport and a Seville , one was a factory GM engine swap and the other was was a complete full tear down with replacement of some parts like pistons and valves which even when new have to be grinded to angle and chamfer the edge of the valves to exact tolerance after the seats on the heads were grounded as well. Don’t see that today so we .
Excellent information there Scotty, awesome channel, keep them coming...
Here in UK we have annual mechanical tests of motor vehicles over 3 years old: the "MoT (Ministry of Transport) test". The mileage is recorded, and is available online to all. All other MoT information also available, so we can see test failures and recommendations (e.g. 'tyres will need to be replaced soon').
Loved the informative video Scotty. One thing , you need to hold a garage sale, to make space for more 'trial products' as you look to be running out of room.
you give great advice about everything you talk about. Thank you Scotty
Good info, Scotty. Those devices should be allowed ONLY by honest mechanics with a clear need for them. I've been told to also check the wear on the pedal pads to confirm miles.
Great advice, wonderful integrity.
That is fantastic information Scotty thank you very much.
I replaced the gauge cluster on my 2005 Silverado recently. The company asked for the mileage I wanted programmed in it. It would have been easy to roll it back. I’m not a huge fan of carfax reports but this is where they can come in handy. There are mileage records in those reports so the reports can be helpful to spot this.
In CANADA every year when you renew your registration , your are required to gives milage on the vehicle. This is RECORDED the VIN NUMBER
Shout out to Canada
What province? This is not required here in Alberta.
@@paulrebstock4993he said in Canada not Alberta😂
@@Mithrandir6622 I don't get what is funny. OP lives in Canada and says they record mileage during registration. Another Canadian person replied that they don't do that in his province and asked what province the OP lives in. We just learned that not all of Canada does this.
Appreciate You Scott. Even in Australia valuable info for non car peeps like myself 👍🏻🌊🌟
Funny I came across this. Reminds me of when I had to repair the cluster gauge on my 25 yr old vehicle and started thinking, (this would be rather easy to turn back the mileage). Would take some time but appeared to be easy. In the end I chose not to. I plan on keeping it till she blows, and considering it's age, the mileage is quite low already. So not much point in taking the time to do so.
I remember back in the 70s dealership used the tire balance machine to roll back the mileage. Good ol Hardy boys GA
I lucked up and found a 2018 Yukon XL with only 35,000 miles on it in December 2023. It’s the ONLY reason we bought it. It was extremely well cared for and you wouldn’t think it was a 2018 from looking at it outside and inside. Carfax shows the mileage is correct. You scared me for a minute. But then I thought, if someone was going to roll back mileage on that vehicle, they wouldn’t roll it back to 35,000 miles. That would be crazy to try. But thank you for pointing this out.
❤Scotty I have a 96 Ford Explorer. The odo never worked. Now cant get a safety. Replaced the stupid gear, no go. Replaced the instrument cluster, no go. Now I have another cluster and am hoping it solves it. I was told since the speedo works and odo no work then its an issue inside the cluster. What a cluster F!
I love how honest you are Scotty!! I wish more people were like you!! ❤
In New Hampshire inspections are computerized right to the state if the mileage is lower than previous inspection it will be flagged and rejected right on the spot
Good info.
Awesome info scotty!😊
Love your videos, Scotty!!!
And this is why we love you Scotty!!!
What an amazing honest mechanic scotty is i wish he was my mechanic !
He is your mechanic
Honest mechanics don't exist
It’s well past the time when Google needs to be held liable for listing literally thousands of scam links on their searches!
Don't ever stop Scotty! I love your videos!
I have a digital speedometer in my 2017 kia sportage and I love it.
in the uk, vehicles have to be tested (MOT) annually. they record the odometer when the test is done, so any reductions would be obvious.
The auctions in South Florida back in the 90s was ripe with that crap
Many years ago I had a 1968 mercedes.
The speedo quit working.
Being real handy, I took it all apart.
I fixed the problem and could have set the mileage to anything.
It was very time consuming though.
So, it can be done with any older mechanical speedo.
Just for info here.
Gene.
Great Video..
That one you're holding looks identical to my '91 Celica's dash...Tach hasn't worked since I bought it and have been hesitant to rip apart a 30yr old dash to get to it...I know how to shift well enough to not need it, but still...annoys the hell out of me.
Analogue speedometers look so much nicer than digital ones.
Black background with white needles like some 90's cars have is nice.
Totally agree, love the feeling of driving a "motor vehicle" they have.
But with a digital one, you can pretend you're driving KITT!
@@TimoRutanen But kitt look so futuristic and high tech. Today having a clock radio in place of the odometer look cheap and mean. Displays costs cents. Also, here for example speed is still required to be a needle. Stepper driven neeedles are not spring loaded. So it wont back up unless the stepper is comanded to. This is to audit the speed during a crash, usually the needle is stuck at the very last reading.
another great video scotty
I bought a 90 Ford Taurus back in 1994. The car looked great only 42k miles. I changed the oil every 5k miles. The engine died at 104k miles. I figured out the odometer had been rolled back. The dealer I bought it from didn't onow because they bought it at auction. I think the car actually had about 150k miles. These rollback scams were very common before CarFax.
Something to consider;
the miles people put on a car varies from about 12K to 20K in a year.
You should be warey of uber low mileage cause it generally indicates the stop & go city traffic that abuses the car.
So look for something that isn't extra high mileage (the way my dad would drive for everything 😂).
So it's possible either way the car was,abused for driving too much and got old or was working extra but not counting miles.
How long did you drive it?
The 60K indicates about 3 years.
But when you bought that, it should have had about 100K miles on it if driven properly and honestly. (Around 60 at the lowest if it wasn't used a lot.)
@@CurlyFromTheSwirlyon average I put about 30k miles a year on a car
@Liye49
I used do 40 🤣
I tried that device on my modern Silverado, it changes the mileage as long as the tool is still connected but as soon as I restart the truck it reverts back to the real mileage. The real mileage on modern cars is also stored in the ECM and possibly even TCMs, not that some cars in the early 2000s could be affected. You can put a brand new cluster in my truck and it will say the same mileage, its not stored in the cluster. I have replaced several clusters on cars and it did not change the mileage, again im not saying some models or manufactures do, but I mainly worked on german cars, hondas, and chevys.
I wrote the software to do that for a handful of car manufacturers in the ECM. More or less the highest mileage wins more-or-less, but with error checking, so if the TCU, BCM, and ECM all agree, that value wins.
If you have to replace the dash clusters new one doesn't have any mileage on it and the program is in the cluster for miles
I knew you wouldn’t quit Scotty! Thanks for another great video!
My old VW Bug had so many miles on it the speedometer wore out so I got one at the wreckers, they were close to each other in miles but I doubt it had as many miles since it worked fine the rest of the years I had the car, those old VW speedometers turn over in 1/10 the miles as a American car so I never had a clue how many miles my bug on it since I had no idea how many times the speedometer turned over, I kind of miss my old Bug, if the engine got hot you just turn it off and if it was too cold it would not freeze up since they are air cooled.
Excellent advice Scotty . Ta
Wow, thank you 😮for this valuable information that I am sharing on Facebook 😊.
Modern clusters have something called an eeprom and sometimes CPU chip. When changing your cluster due to failure, for security reasons, it has to be reset to the new Vin number emobalizer information as well as the correct mileage in order to speak with the other modules for security reasons. That is why these products are a necessity. I'm not saying they cannot be used to rip people off. But in order to do that, you need to change the mileage in the ECU/ECM/DDE/DME/PCM and in other modules as well. It would not just be the cluster..
80's Buick Riviera had an electrical speedometer. That car was interesting in a good way.
You are appreciated!
In Europe every vehice has to have a control cerificate either yearly or bi-yearly starting at 3 years of registration, each cerificate has the milage on computer and printout, making it amost imposdible to wind back the speedo...it can of course be done, but the back up papper work can not be altered..
I am not teaching you how to rip off people
30 sec after: saying the name of the device 😂😂😂
Scotty is a teacher he has a phd, he got to teach man!!!!!
It's stronger than him 😂
Whether he say it or not, once you know such device exist, it's easy to find.
@@xonx209 yeah, depends :)) some people still think a simple scan tool can just show you the codes on the check engine light so... :)))
No big deal. Cars usually have more than one storage for mileage and various events and errors. The OBD tool hacks into the visible odometer storage but other clues remain unchanged.
In the UK you can check on the cars past MOTs and see the milage year by year.
Avoid platinum preowned scammers in harrisburg. 3 of 4 cars are lemons and the last one is a toyota corrolla thatbstill needed repairs.
Tried to by a '10 Civic last year from a dealership, not a used car lot, but an actual dealership. The odometer had 1200 miles less than the Carfax report. They tried claiming clerical error by the last service record. Only had 1 key, remote batteries dead and key was glued shut.
What most likely happened was an engine swap, seeing how under the hood was perfectly clean on a 13 year old car. I took my money and ran away. They had 4 employees swarm the car freaking out, trying to inspect it as I drove off.
I need to get one. I replaced my cluster because I wanted a tach. The cluster is about 100K miles lower that what I had. I'll probably drive it until it blows up anyway.
"I won't tell you what this machine is because I'm HONEST. . . But here's the exact picture and name of the listing"
Never change Scotty.
Scotty is a teacher he has a phd, he got to teach man!!!!!
That's right, above the picture it clearly showed what it was, CHICPROG MT401. Its not that hard to google it and find out what it is.
My cluster on my 96 Jetta had a digital odometer that apparently could be altered through the odb
Polish used car dealership are NOTORIOUS for doing this. Supposedly, they don't do it as much anymore because they have to pay a huge fine if they get caught, now. But I remember looking online to buy a car in Poland like 8 years ago and all of the cars had like 170k km on the odometer. The used car dealers discovered that was an attractive and plausible odometer reading for a car up to 10 years old (or much older, sometimes). They would turn back the odomoter 100k km or more!
Presumably this is why the milage is public, you have to know the reg number but that's displayed on the plates, on MOTs in the UK. MOT is the UK car anual vehicle inspection.
some cars are even made so you for so that dealerships can literally well... literally do a specific set of things in their cars to even reset the odometer.
best advice from youtube ive found in a while - makes sense because it is a simple computer, and we all know computers can be hacked - simple basics, get the receipts lol
I had a BMW that the LCM (Light Control Module) went out.. You wouldn't think it to be a huge deal, but you would be wrong. I replaced the LCM with a new one but discovered you can't just stick a new one in, you'll need to take it to the dealer to have the new LCM programmed. Here is the deal, I could use it, but there was a small light that appeared to let a potential buyer know the mileage was incorrect or the VIN could be wrong. So, I purchased a cable and Disk with the program needed to flash the drive. Once downloaded onto the laptop, I was able to change the lighting and all kinds of stuff.. Pretty Neat! But there was a catch, and it was also pretty neat. Before you start to flash the LCM, you need to record the mileage of your car and the VIN number. Then enter this info to the new LCM. This info is what you will need to enter in order to match the old defective LCM.. If the new info doesn't match that of the old LCM, it will still illuminate the little dash light.. which tells you the LCM mileage and VIN are possibly wrong, and the car could possibly be stolen.
Remember the scene in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off"? When they had the Porche up on jack stands, running it in reverse (except it didn't work) .😆😆😆😆
From my experience, if buying a used car ask the owner where he's been servicing the car. First ask him if he has the receipts from being serviced. If not, then make a visit to the place and ask if they have the service records. Looking at the rubber on the gas pedal and break pedal can give an idea of age and wear. Look at the steering wheel and seats. An experienced mechanic can put the car on his lift and do an underside inspection. He would know from how things look if the vehicle had more millage than indicated on the odometer.
Yep! In fact 2002 Hyundai Elantra said had 50k miles but the carpet under the gas pedal was so worn out that it was obviously not 50k miles
And the detail paint on the buttons like windshield wipers the white paint was almost non visible. Thought it was dirty but no it was worn paint!
VIN numbers should be stamped right on odometer panels. Btw this brings up a question, if the area by the window of the car where the VIN numbers is, is damaged - how do they handle that?
Love ya man. Your#1 in my book.❤👍
I thought the odometer reading was actually stored in the ECU, not in the odometer instrument itself. Changing the instrument cluster shouldn't change the odometer reading.
What I have heard of is insertion of a CAN bus "man-in-the-middle" device that gets the odometer reading sent by the ECU, subtracts some mileage and then forwards the new reading on to the odometer...
I bought a '92 Prelude 4ws way back then. Started having electronic problems with the steering. Come to find out it was in a wreck and the dash was replaced. The vin on the dash did not match the vin in the door. I made a stink with the dealer and even called the DMV. The DMV sent a state trooper out and he removed the vin from the dash plate and the dealer said sorry. I got a jewler to make me a new vin plate, installed it, and sold that POS. Be careful out there buying cars.
So you manufactured a vin number and unloaded your POS on some other sucker.
I tried to run old speedometers back and they do NOT run back. I even tried this on a 1947 Chevy and all it would do is go forward then I reversed the drill and it just turned half a turn then clicked back to previous reading!!!
Sold Chevy in the late ‘70’s. On the demonstrators we salespeople drove, we couldn’t go over 6K miles as that was the limit that GM would extend the warranty. On GM cars during that time, the speedometer cable came up from the transmission to the cruise control module under the hood. A second cable exited the module and went through the firewall to the speedometer. It was a 15 second job to unscrew the cable to the speedometer and keep the miles down.
The way you know a gauge is ditigal instead of analog is if when you turn the car it sweeps through its range.
I live in Mexico and every car is rolled back. There is no reporting of mileage on your insurance or anything. Even the local Ford dealer rolls back the odometers on his cars(I'm sure other official dealers do it too).
Thanks Scotty!!! Hope you are well!😅
0:47: The odometer cannot be rolled back because it has some type of RATCHET inside, like a socket wrench it turns bolts only one way but it clicks backwards
I know a guy thats been caught a few times for rolling back odomiters & also for changing digital odomiters from wrecked cars with less miles into cars with more miles making them seem like they are low mile cars and he has been locked up a few times for it now but it never stopped him because he was making to much money doing so. I don't know if his still doing it or not.
First thing when I do buy an used car is plug my OBD scan tool and try to read BCM/ABS/ECU counters and check with the panel lol.
My 96 mirage has almost 230k mileage and I carry it as a badge of honor
With an odb tool u can adjust the milage, just type the mileage u want and within a second tada.
If i buy domestic in Sweden this would be impossible. Because every 14th month you need to inspect every single car at an accredited workshop and they log the ODO at the traffic ministry.
Friend of mine had a dodge dakota 4 door. 4.7 engine. Good truck. At 80,000 miles he needed a driver side CV joint. He ain't no mechanic. For a few hours and about $200.00 we could make it new. So he went to a dealer, got a good trade in on a chevy extended cab. Nice. Half a year later we saw the truck at our local lakes Friday night party. It was it and the owner said he got a great deal on a mint truck with only 49,000 thousand miles. He never told me what they settled on, sealed with a legal eagle. He did suddenly have a brand new Chevy 4 door cab, from a Chrysler dealership.
In the UK the mileage is documented every year during the MOT test. The government knows everything and shares this with everyone!
I looked up my VIN for a car I've had for 3 years used. It had mileage for every single shop visit from dealers to valvoline quick oil change place etc. Its all reported.
Always wondered this about my 2010 Ram the dashboard clusters clear plastic had a little crack in it like it was taken out at some point. Truck was 5 years old with only 23000km when I got it. I bought it from a Ram dealership. I am the 2 owner the first owner was a old man I no that for fact but did always find it suspicious. Probably nothing but u gust never know.
Only the press hated the digital dashes, I had an 89 Mercury Cougar with a great digital dash.
And then there are states like Florida where there is no state inspection. Your only hope is that you find a receipt...
Digital odometers can not be turned back... case and point... BMW has no software to calibrate the odometer if the kombi(instrument cluster) is replaced. The true mileage of the vehicle is stored in 3 different control modules. One of those being the kombi. If mileage is altered in any way. There is a light on the kombi that will stay on to let any who see it know that the mileage has been altered and is not true
I saw that once when buying a car. I called the police while I was running away. They told me to shelter in place while they came to me. Made the nightly news. The rest is history.
Question. If you replace enough parts due to a repair, should you reset the odometer to 0? Kind of a ship of Theseus question. And to follow up with that, what is the limit before you shouldn't reset the odometer? Engine and Transmission only? Axles too? Etc and so forth.