AM and RF security tag basics and deactivation

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  • čas přidán 13. 12. 2013
  • Showing how AM (Acousto magnetic and RF (radio frequency) anti shoplifting tags work and how they are deactivated.
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Komentáře • 48

  • @anubis63000jd
    @anubis63000jd Před 7 lety +17

    This is a rare bit of information. it's very hard to google. I was curious if you could reactivate the strips, for a prank.
    lol awesome

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety +1

      You can reactivate a tag with a relatively strong magnet, like one you'd get out of a computer hard drive, or a magnetic pick up tool, or basically any neodymium magnet. Rub the magnet along the tag, an it will be reactivated!

  • @nagytibor7455
    @nagytibor7455 Před 7 lety

    Hello,
    i came up here because i would like to ask your help.
    My deactivator does not works anymore.The power supply has a fuse and in when i try to deactivate a tag the power supplies fuse is blown out immediately.
    I don't know the reason why.Without triing to deactivate its stands normal(i can see the led blinking).I don't know what is the reason why so much power arrive to the supply when id tag is touched.
    Do you have any idea?Thank you for reading

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety

      Did you use the exact kind of fuse that was in it? If so, it sounds like there is a fault somewhere in the supply, you would likely have to send it back to the manufacturer to get it fixed, or buy a new one.

  • @MrCoreyTexas
    @MrCoreyTexas Před 7 lety

    I found one of these in a staples dumpster! Power Pad, Power supply, and a cord that looks like a phone cord. How do you use it to demagnetize screwdrivers? When I plug it in, and connect the Remote 1 to the Sensormatic Power Pad and the other cable to the power supply, I get a blinking green light on the Sensormatic Power Pad.

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety

      If it is exactly like this, the "phone cable" simply controls the light and beeper, the big thick cable controls the actual deactivator. If you have any of the black or white tags like found in DVD cases and in boxes (rectangular, kind of "squishy") run a magnet over one to reactivate it, then pass it over the pad, you should hear a "boing" sound, and it will be deactivated. To demagnetize a screwdriver, put the screwdriver on the pad and run an active tag over it, the deactivator will "boing" and the screwdriver will be demagnetized.

    • @MrCoreyTexas
      @MrCoreyTexas Před 7 lety

      Thanks will! I found a rectangular tag and used my hard drive supermagnet to successfully test my system. Very cool scavenging score for me!
      The way I have it hooked up, is I have a remote control board connected to Remote 1 on the black power supply box. I have nothing else plugged into the Sensormatic Box other than the big grey cable that plugs into the black power supply.
      I stupidly had taken apart the remote control circuit so I have to hold down a switch to get it to deactivate a magnetized tag. But it feels real cool when it happens! Will test it out on a screwdriver next.

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety

      have you tried taking the remote off and just unplugging it? If it's the
      kind with the small box and a key switch, I don't think you have to
      have it plugged in, it just keeps people from using the deactivator if
      they aren't supposed to. Mine doesn't have the remote, so I never
      worried with it

  • @HillbillyRednecking
    @HillbillyRednecking Před 7 lety +8

    3:28 bless you

  • @jeffkoltz421
    @jeffkoltz421 Před 10 lety +1

    Interesting. When I worked in Target I would always see these tags. Or after purchasing products as a consumer, these tags would be within the packaging of the product. So the device you have in the video deactivates both? The RF and AM are deactivated by magnetization or radio frequency? I remember an associate telling me they had magnets to deactivate products when they would bring them out of the store. Will strong magnets such as neodymium alone deactivate these internal tags within products simply by running them over the product? Also, I know when going to Walmart and target all the cashier did was scan the item (i.e Phillips Norelco electric razor) or when you go to self check out and swipe it over the check out pod. Is this swiping or scanning doing the same thing as the device you have in the video. Is it the same mechanism or technology?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 10 lety

      The device I have works only on the Acousto Magnetic tags, Target uses the RF variety, which uses a different device. This one basically creates a pulse of alternating current that demagnetizes the bias strip. Magnets won't deactivate them, but will actually re activate a inactive AM tag.
      And this deactivator is a counter mount model, most stores are now using models where the deactivation pad is built into the barcode scanner, so you can scan and deactivate at once.

    • @SwimmChic13
      @SwimmChic13 Před 9 lety

      +Will Phoneman Hi Will, thanks for the great video! By any chance, do you know how big the deactivators are that are included within the barcode scanners? Or how physically small they can be? Also, do you know how much power these smaller size units consume? Thanks.

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety

      Catherine Cantwell There are a few types that I know of, one slips over the scanner, and works on the AM Sensormatic tags. It's just an arrangement of magnets and requires no power. There are also ones that integrate into the scanners mounted in a counter, and they can be designed for the RF checkpoint tags or the AM sensormatic ones. The sensormatic one uses the same controller as the one in this video.
      Checkpoint makes deativators that are integrated into the scanner itself, as part of it, and use a special cable. the part in the scanner is just the antenna coil, (small) and there's a controller usually under the counter. As for power requirements, I really don't know. the unit I have uses about 100 watts, I think.

    • @Jadkinsa1
      @Jadkinsa1 Před 8 lety

      +Will Phoneman is it possible to find one of these pads online?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety

      Jadkinsa1 yes you can on sites like eBay. But expect the shipping to be kind of high as they are heavy. Also look for stores that are closing and selling off their equipment, you may be able to find one cheap that way.

  • @TheAnimeCafe
    @TheAnimeCafe Před 8 lety +5

    is there a way someone could build a small portable one?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety

      Maybe, but it would be power intensive

    • @TheAnimeCafe
      @TheAnimeCafe Před 8 lety

      Power intensive?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety

      Sensormatic makes a portable one, but it is expensive. It would take a lot of know how to make a DIY one, and it would use a lot of power, so you'd need a good battery.

  • @thedukeofcalifornia129

    Question: Are tattle strips permanent?
    How to detect tattle strip (i.e. RFID detector and or Bluetooth UHF RF Playstore App)?
    How to deactivate (de-magnetize) them?
    Curiosity
    Thanks

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety

      there are permanent and deactivateable ones, they work similar to the AM tags I talk about in this video. it uses magnetic fields to activate and deactivate them. (alternating field to activate, positive field to deactivate.) A sensitive metal detector should pick them up, they are just metallic strips.

    • @thedukeofcalifornia129
      @thedukeofcalifornia129 Před 7 lety

      Will Phoneman thanks

  • @stewpid254
    @stewpid254 Před 9 lety

    nicccccccccce, is there any way to deactivate the spider wrap, and does the spider wrap sound its own alarm if you were to exit the building with it still wrap around the box?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety

      The spider wrap is non deactivateable. The 3 alarm version alarms when removed from the store, the 2 alarm and ones that just say "alarm" on them don't.

    • @amanitaocreata3586
      @amanitaocreata3586 Před 8 lety

      microwave, or you can get alligator clip/testing cables and make a connect(electrically) to the cable both ends prior to cutting the cable then you have slack to remove item although you will have to leave your test cable behind. or you can buy strong rare earth magnets and use them. the device has a latching mechanism and once the cable is cut can not be turned off without reconnecting cable and removing and reapplying power source(this is obviously difficult as the device is made of fused

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety

      +Amanita ocreata that would work

  • @Vape_Master69
    @Vape_Master69 Před 9 lety +3

    how exactly does it demagnetize?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety +4

      Daniel Murillo Hard to explain without getting too technical, but here goes. Basically it's a decaying 60 Hertz sine wave that causes the molecules in the metal to jumble up and thus lose their magnetism. If you look up degaussing coils", it's the same principle. Hope that helps you understand it some

    • @Vape_Master69
      @Vape_Master69 Před 9 lety +1

      I understand thanks.

  • @PyroJake
    @PyroJake Před 10 lety

    That is nice that way the clerks. Don't forget to take the tags off that is so annoying
    This is such a nice video. Could I buy 4 or five tags from you I would love to do the same thing that you do but there expensive on ebay we'll there not expensive but they. Only sell them in late quantity

  • @nando_wan_kenobi4768
    @nando_wan_kenobi4768 Před 8 lety +2

    What is this device Called???

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety +2

      It is a deactivator. This one is for acousto magnetic 58KHz tags, there are ones for RF tags too

  • @nashawnchery3502
    @nashawnchery3502 Před 9 lety +3

    Great video! I have a question, what is used to deactivate the Radio Frequency tags ?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety +1

      It's basically a coil tuned to the frequency of the tag that overpowers the capacitor in the tag and destroys it, making it undetectable to the alarm.

    • @nashawnchery3502
      @nashawnchery3502 Před 9 lety

      Can the tabs be tuned to different frequencies or are thay always on one specific frequency

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety

      Nashawn Chery in theory, you could make one on any frequency, but 99% are 8.2 MHz. Some older ones used other frequencies, but they are no longer produced. There are supposedly some tuned to 9.2, but I think they were only used in libraries and video stores. (I've never found any)

    • @nashawnchery3502
      @nashawnchery3502 Před 9 lety

      Will Phoneman Okay. Arent the electromagnetic energy that is dispersed to overpower the RF tags harmful ?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 9 lety

      Nashawn Chery It only pulses out when it detects a tag, and I'm sure it has to be below a certain power level to comply with regs, just like any other RF producing device.

  • @gaylord008nah
    @gaylord008nah Před 7 lety

    Thank you! What kind of second hand stores sell one of these?

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 7 lety

      Liam Neesan i got mine when I volunteered at the local Habitat for Humanity store. they were going to pitch it as they had no clue what it was

    • @gaylord008nah
      @gaylord008nah Před 7 lety

      I see, good for you. Thanks

  • @jaymancloward8704
    @jaymancloward8704 Před 8 lety +4

    your voice sounds like thecomic book nerd from the simpsons

    • @WillPhoneman
      @WillPhoneman  Před 8 lety +3

      haha! I can also do a pretty good impersonation of of Herbert the pervert from Family Guy!