really enjoyed the video, wish you had more i could learn from, can fix most of the things that i have ran across, but when my fuel pump goes out, now i will know how to check it..Thanks...
just fyi, it's easier to tap into the secondary housing to check fuel pressure with a gauge. The pumps never fail, if you have a lack of fuel pressure, you'll typically find a problem with the drive gear off the air compressor. Is that what you ultimately found here?
Mr. Slow that's what I wanna know. thanks for the tip btw. I have one now and they're a dying breed at my company due to age/fuel consumption. but I wanna make it last so I'm trying to learn all I can about this engine. mines spitting and sputtering and blowing black some around 12 to 1300 rpm. any thoughts?
@@scottskinner577 my series 60 had a special spot on the throttle were it would fill the parking lot with white smoke i could drive it all over the usa but if i held it in that special spot it would act up turns out it was a leaking injector cup that was putting air in the fuel and leaking fuel into the cylinders rebuilt the head and problem was solved but u said black smoke. so this is just food for thought
if you have a vac pump such as his, there is NO need to put your lips on any damn fuel line . step 1 see if fuel in tanks step 2 turn key to "on" watch for red and yellow lights to come on and go off. step 3 spin the engine and see if the tach moves. if not the crank sensor is bad (the TRS). step 4 start diagnosis on fuel system. on the starter I doubt the fuel pump will make 60 psi- more like 15-25. it would be easier to put 1 to 2 psi in the fuel tank to push fuel up to the pump. and btw always use the engine serial number to purchase the proper fuel pump. Detroit has several different pressures and flows so get the correct one b4 you build a new problem. on the suction side 1-3 # vac new filter and 8-12 # vac on a plugged filter
If the fuel tank is pressurized isolate the return fuel line and plug the tank fitting . Without doing this procedure you will be pressurizing the fuel inlet and fuel return at the same time .
@@vicpetrishak7705been pressuring the fuel tanks for 40 years, not once isolated the return line, they always primed and started because the return line has a ck valve. It prevents the head from emptying when the engine is off.
Hey I got question. I have a Detroit 60 series my fuel bowl stays dry and truck seems like it has no power. It also will shut down for like 10-15 seconds going down rode and then it will pick back up and go. Any ideas
you can go to any auto parts store and buy a 100 lb. gauge and the brass adapters. For a hose you can use a grease line from a grease gun and couple them together for more length or go to Princess auto or a hydraulic place and make up a hose. The vac. gauge is a snapon vacuum pump , but you should be able to buy just the vacuum gauge at the auto parts store. Or if you feel rich you can go to the snap on truck and buy the works. You can buy fuel pump test kits at some auto parts stores.
Good troubleshoot... When I come to a red light When I come from a trip like about 3 hours away the truck seems like it wants to stall like it want to shut off and it does it for like three to five seconds lately it's getting a little worse So iam wondering Could the fuel pump is getting bad or is the fuel filter needs to be changed Thank you.
I have a question would it fire up with starter fluid or did you guys not try that I have the same problem but mine starts with starter fluid then stays on
How is it a 500hp? Is it a 12.7 or 14 litter I have a ddec3 detroit 12.7 and want way more power than what I have. I have only like 430 with a suoer 10 trans Thanks
Depends on a lot of things injector / nozzle size, computer program, cam shaft, injection timing / control pressure, turbo charger boost pressure. A simple computer programmer could safely add up to 50 hp with a stock motor. beyond that you probably need to change injectors and other engine components. There's really no simple answer, diesels are much more complex than many people realize.
Thanks Mr.Mike. ;) I would like 600-700hp But would like to start with 500hp. I just wish there were combos already set up. But no one has no combos out. I bought the bully dog hd gt programer only to fond out it won't work on my truck. Cuz its an old modle. That it needs to be at least a 1998. I dont understand. There are some 98 and 99 with a 12.7 ddec 3 motors? Do dont know why it won't eork on mine. Thanjs for ur post :)
+Mario Rodriguez if you want 600-700 you had better have a heavy wallet. if you want your engine too last you'll need different connecting rods, positions, injectors, exhaust manifold, turbo, and you'll have to reprogram your ecm with aftermarket programming. Detroit ecms can only go up to roughly 550 depending on programming and software. if you have an egr engine, you'll also need to defeat the egr system and plug it. most I've personally seen on a dyno was 680. my suggestion is to shoot for good fuel economy. ;)
It very well can be a 500 hp. Trust me my Dad owned about 10 different 12.7 liter 60 series detroit and they ranged anywhere from 450 hp to 470-500 hp. Ive got one now in a 2003 freightliner century class 12.7 liter 500 hp at around 1500- 1750 ft lbs. Of torque
i have a Daf Cf 85.430 paccar engine i did a fuel filter change and i cant start the dam thing ... and i got fuel in the whole system in the Filter in the pump and on the pipe to the fuel injection i have no more idea whats wrong on this Euro/American thing :C
Outstanding. You missed your calling - should have been a teacher!
Nothing like some good ol truck drivin mouth wash.
That good man feels like professional
that'll make you woof your cookies......
This isn't really a fix; but you diagnosed the problem with minimal tools. Thanks for posting!
really enjoyed the video, wish you had more i could learn from, can fix most of the things that i have ran across, but when my fuel pump goes out, now i will know how to check it..Thanks...
That is 1 weird Bend on the pipe from the turbo to the inter-cooler.
Viewer discretion is adviced “A whole lot of suckin In this video” 😂
just fyi, it's easier to tap into the secondary housing to check fuel pressure with a gauge. The pumps never fail, if you have a lack of fuel pressure, you'll typically find a problem with the drive gear off the air compressor. Is that what you ultimately found here?
Mr. Slow that's what I wanna know. thanks for the tip btw. I have one now and they're a dying breed at my company due to age/fuel consumption. but I wanna make it last so I'm trying to learn all I can about this engine. mines spitting and sputtering and blowing black some around 12 to 1300 rpm. any thoughts?
@@scottskinner577 my series 60 had a special spot on the throttle were it would fill the parking lot with white smoke i could drive it all over the usa but if i held it in that special spot it would act up turns out it was a leaking injector cup that was putting air in the fuel and leaking fuel into the cylinders rebuilt the head and problem was solved but u said black smoke. so this is just food for thought
Love u man ....wish u were teacher when I learning
I have a Detroit 12.7 I have fuel bit it do not start
if you have a vac pump such as his, there is NO need to put your lips on any damn fuel line . step 1 see if fuel in tanks step 2 turn key to "on" watch for red and yellow lights to come on and go off. step 3 spin the engine and see if the tach moves. if not the crank sensor is bad (the TRS). step 4 start diagnosis on fuel system. on the starter I doubt the fuel pump will make 60 psi- more like 15-25. it would be easier to put 1 to 2 psi in the fuel tank to push fuel up to the pump. and btw always use the engine serial number to purchase the proper fuel pump. Detroit has several different pressures and flows so get the correct one b4 you build a new problem. on the suction side 1-3 # vac new filter and 8-12 # vac on a plugged filter
If the fuel tank is pressurized isolate the return fuel line and plug the tank fitting . Without doing this procedure you will be pressurizing the fuel inlet and fuel return at the same time .
@@vicpetrishak7705been pressuring the fuel tanks for 40 years, not once isolated the return line, they always primed and started because the return line has a ck valve. It prevents the head from emptying when the engine is off.
Great video. Beautiful BC!
Thank you.
That's a terrible way to check it. Fuel press. will only be 20# @ idle about 70 @ no load.
wow good job, this is a fix.
Hey I got question. I have a Detroit 60 series my fuel bowl stays dry and truck seems like it has no power. It also will shut down for like 10-15 seconds going down rode and then it will pick back up and go. Any ideas
Did u ever fix the problem if so what was it?
you can go to any auto parts store and buy a 100 lb. gauge and the brass adapters.
For a hose you can use a grease line from a grease gun and couple them together for more length or go to Princess auto or a hydraulic place and make up a hose.
The vac. gauge is a snapon vacuum pump , but you should be able to buy just the vacuum gauge at the auto parts store.
Or if you feel rich you can go to the snap on truck and buy the works. You can buy fuel pump test kits at some auto parts stores.
Thanks/
But where is the fuel pump test?
Great video, thanks!
Can you please show where the crank and cam shaft sensors located ? Thanks
Thankyou for the video very useful
Good troubleshoot...
When I come to a red light When I come from a trip like about 3 hours away the truck seems like it wants to stall like it want to shut off and it does it for like three to five seconds lately it's getting a little worse So iam wondering Could the fuel pump is getting bad or is the fuel filter needs to be changed Thank you.
how long does it take to change over the pump, clean lines and change filter.
Great Video
Very good video!!!
The oil leaks all over the ECM, probably need to rebuild the front structure
nice video;would like to know where to p/u that fuel pressure gauge set up.have the same detroit and won't to have a gauge,thx...keep up the good work
thanks for information
How about a magnetic tray to hold that wrench?
Who Cares
LOL this guy sucks diesel like he's drinking beer LOL cracks me up. thanks for the video
I'm certainly not mr safety but god damn, get a pump or some clear hose lol
what a fucking animal lol
I have a question would it fire up with starter fluid or did you guys not try that I have the same problem but mine starts with starter fluid then stays on
Did you ever figure it out
is there an after fix video?
Moggiemanner 2017 exactly
yeah, why bother using a vacuum gauge.
517 horse power
how much a fuel pump cost.thanks take care.
200.00 to 300.00 ive got to buy one for mine 100 was the cheapest i found on ebay rebuilt
Get to the point
That detroit is not 500hp it is max 400 or 350
How is it a 500hp?
Is it a 12.7 or 14 litter
I have a ddec3 detroit 12.7 and want way more power than what I have.
I have only like 430 with a suoer 10 trans
Thanks
Depends on a lot of things injector / nozzle size, computer program, cam shaft, injection timing / control pressure, turbo charger boost pressure.
A simple computer programmer could safely add up to 50 hp with a stock motor. beyond that you probably need to change injectors and other engine components. There's really no simple answer, diesels are much more complex than many people realize.
Thanks Mr.Mike. ;)
I would like 600-700hp
But would like to start with 500hp.
I just wish there were combos already set up.
But no one has no combos out.
I bought the bully dog hd gt programer only to fond out it won't work on my truck. Cuz its an old modle. That it needs to be at least a 1998.
I dont understand. There are some 98 and 99 with a 12.7 ddec 3 motors?
Do dont know why it won't eork on mine.
Thanjs for ur post :)
+Mario Rodriguez if you want 600-700 you had better have a heavy wallet. if you want your engine too last you'll need different connecting rods, positions, injectors, exhaust manifold, turbo, and you'll have to reprogram your ecm with aftermarket programming. Detroit ecms can only go up to roughly 550 depending on programming and software. if you have an egr engine, you'll also need to defeat the egr system and plug it. most I've personally seen on a dyno was 680. my suggestion is to shoot for good fuel economy. ;)
It very well can be a 500 hp. Trust me my Dad owned about 10 different 12.7 liter 60 series detroit and they ranged anywhere from 450 hp to 470-500 hp. Ive got one now in a 2003 freightliner century class 12.7 liter 500 hp at around 1500- 1750 ft lbs. Of torque
Iam free Saturday nite
ARE YOU SERIOUS!!!!!!??!!!???!!!
i have a Daf Cf 85.430 paccar engine i did a fuel filter change and i cant start the dam thing ... and i got fuel in the whole system in the Filter in the pump and on the pipe to the fuel injection i have no more idea whats wrong on this Euro/American thing :C
Check fuses more than likely one of them are blown trust me ive had this issue countless times check fuses in battery box too if it has them there
From where can I purchase genuine Detroit fuel pump, part No 23856661
U should go straight to the topic.
love America love Detroite
500 hp my ass
MrRick1303 its a 12.7 500hp 60 series got one sitting in my front yard lol
He talks for the first three minutes so skip.
detroit series 60 worse truck motor ever built
I'll take a 12.7 over alot of other crap. like Paccar.