Dear Friend 😢 so sorry for your problems with your Ford. Before you turn your truck in I have some friendly suggestions . 1. Have your computer reflashed . It sets your computer back to factory settings ( I believe). 2. Take it to a independent auto mechanic and ask them to reset the computer. 3. For the transmission that is shifting wonky have a transmission shop reflash the memory in the transmission. It will reset the memory of your driving style. 4. Do you have a manual mode on your truck. Put it in manual mode with your gear shifter and start off slow hitting the plus switch on your gear selector for each gear as you accelerate until you get up to 10 th gear. Then deaccelerate downshifting as you would in a standard shift truck. You are basically retraining the shifting points in the memory of your transmission. I’ve done this with my 2018 F150 2.7 ecoboost. It runs great now. I am not a mechanic but a fellow truck lover. Ask some of your friends who have their fords if they have done these suggestions. 5. Buy a auto scanner that can do these reflashes yourself. My tranny was balking between 3rd Skipping 4th and dragging into 5 th. Good luck and God bless. Tom. 09/04/23
Take it from an x ford owner there’s is no end to this shit your experience now. I di for 4 years Get rid of it buddy Ram took it off my hands and i had a Ram 1500 for three years now with the hemi and the 8speed ZF transmission and never looked back.
I have been through a similar experience with mine. I have a 2018 F150 lariat V8 and I have so many issues it’s insane. Oil consumption issue so they replaced the engine and it’s still going through 1.5 quarts in 3k miles which Ford Engineering says is normal. The deceleration rattle issue that Ford Engineering says is normal which we all know it’s not. AC Leaks, transmission rattles, radio freezing. It’s been at the dealer 15 times is 1.5yrs. It’s a joke and Ford is declining a buy back. Lemon law is really not on the consumers side at all. Now I understand why a lot of people don’t buy American cars. I’ve had to previous Ford explorers and this truck is by far the worst. I bought it specifically since I thought it would be reliable. The dealer just hides from the problems and won’t offer anything to get me into something else unless I loose out financially.
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@@williamevans8404 I traded it for a Toyota. Ford Canada said it was driving characteristic. Couldn’t wait for a third party to access and arbitrate due to covid delays. So I took the financial hit and got rid of it. After owning over 30 vehicles that brand new f-150 was the worst I’ve owned.
@@randypinder1334 definitely not what I wanted to hear. Lol. They’ve replaced my driveshaft, rear shocks, torque converter and have done cam phasers and the vibration is still there. Their having a ford tech come in from Detroit now to drive my truck and try and figure it out.. beyond over it at this point
I know that feeling when a dealership refuses to work with you towards a resolution. In my experience Autonation Ford has been a nightmare to work with, so frustrating that I found it easier to sell off the truck I'd invested so much money into rather than to continue to be fustrated with repeated bad customer service. I had just about lost hope in Ford as a whole until one day " To God be the Glory" I ran ito a dealership called Parkcity. What a difference it has been a night to day comparison and I'm so sorry to say Fords are beautiful trucks but the truth to the matter is they come with many technicalities and with that in mind a honest, caring reputable dealership is a must. In conclusion I learned it doesn't matter how much bumper to bumper or expended warranty you may have but what really matters is the character of the person who sits behind the service desk and their integrity and willingness to help customers. No one should have to go to the extreme to find a simple solution especially when dealing with giant corporations like Ford. Good luck my friend.
Thank's brother! I agree. They obviously knew something was wrong with it but kept trying to point the finger at me as if I modified the truck which wout void warranty and they told me this even though the truck was completely stock I was upset. Long story short, I've learned to lease a vehicle if I am looking to purchase that vehicle in a long run and if at the end of that lease that vehicle proves itself worthy to purchase I will make that executive decision but I will never sign into a buyer's agreement ever again because the lemon laws did not protect the buyer from situations like this on a monetary level they only allowed the buyer to unbind from a purchase agreement given enough evidence deemed the vehicle a lemon it was the most miserable thing I've ever had to go through. I'm a Ford enthusiast and fan I've restored my generation one bronco, I even own an OJ Bronco and to be such a Ford fan and treated like crap and continuously LED to believe that it was something I was doing with the vehicle really pissed me off they knew there was something wrong and just did not want to be held accountable for it and they definitely did not willingly want to unbind me from the purchase agreement or give me a new vehicle they just wanted to see how far they could push me till I gave up and I'm not that type of person to give up. Is that in park city Utah?
I know your video was a while ago so you may have resolved your lemon law problem. But if you still have the truck try hiring a lemon law attorney. Most times the attorney gets paid by the car company so no out of pocket for you. Recommend watching Steve Lehto lemon law attorney in Michigan on youtube. You can even call him and he will refer you to a good attorney. Good luck and be well.
@@superchaser3867 The 3rd gen Coyote 5.0 is a completely new re-designed engine. It's a mess. They redesigned the block and removed the iron cylinder bore linings, using a nikasil lining instead. This has caused a ton of problems with piston slap. You can hear the pistons slapping around as the engine idles and it causes major wear issues with the pistons and cylinder bores. They also have a lot of major oil consumption issues. Major oil consumption. Some guys reported that a software update helped, but not for everybody. The engine has also had a ton of complaints over rattling cam phasers on cold start or when shifting gears at low speed. Also some complaints for sensations of hesitating like the engine is randomly losing power. They should have left the 2nd gen design alone.
I bought a brand new 2018 F150, with the 3.5 eco-boost motor/10 speed transmission. The truck was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. My cam phasers went out three times. Went through three alternators, VCT sensor issues. Then Ford said that all the studs on one side of the exhaust manifold were broken off somehow. Which is strange, because they were the only ones ever in the motor. They wouldn’t work with me on a trade-in for a new vehicle, so I went over to GMC and got a new Sierra AT4. Best truck I’ve ever owned.
wow. I believe everything you say.... Ford was unwilling to fix the issue with this truck until I got a legal representation. Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
The 5.0 is the way to go if your gonna buy a f150. To much bs with these super small engines adding all the boost to make up for what it lacks and in the end gas mileage is still the same or worse and it's super complicated and expensive to diagnose and fix
@@superchaser3867 '14 5.0L with 6R80 trans...zero issues at 110k with LOTS of 3000lb+ towing. Mine was built in Dearborn. Sucks that yours was built at 4:45pm on a Friday.
Check your ground wire connections. Frame to body. There’s several of them. One of mine was loose. Cleaned it up and retightened and fixed all the issues. Trans to body ground is in a bad spot and corrodes quickly. That’s the worst one. Clean it and reinstall. Also clear out adaptive learning tables for transmission.
not mine to fix. it was ultimately fords truck and they couldn't fix it. not my problem. Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Yup!!!! I know what you talking about,my was 2021f150 xlt, mine only had under 1,900 miles and my tranny was doing the same thing , so I sold it... before got worse, now that I watched your video I'm glad I got rid of my truck don't get me wrong I do like Ford pickups, but honestly if I ever buy a new pick up again I'm going to buy a Toyota, and more likely it'll be the tundra.
I hear that.. tundra are made in USA Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Just had the transmission rebuilt on my 2020 3,5 Ecoboost @ 12k miles and no towing. Also had the cam phasers replaced and it needs to go back next week for suspension noise. I’m ready to trade it in for something else already…
@@big10hunter42 I took it to the dealer and they replaced a bushing in the back seat.. the truck still makes a clunking noise . It's a 2020 with 1900 miles. I'm gonna have to take it back to them
I've had some of the same problems with my 10 speed transmission F-150 King Range. I'll never buy anything over the year 2000 (buy older work trucks from the 70's - 80's). These new so called upgraded city beater trucks are rolling computers and are so touchy. Get an older truck that isn't that touchy and one can have control over it and the truck does what it's supposed to do.
I have a 2017 5.0 6speed It drops from 6th to 1st sometimes on the freeway just to keep me alert. It is an awesome feature! And when I’m sitting at a light and my gauges disappear and it throws me into a random gear... i know ford cares, so much so that they want me focused on not getting rear ended. Lol thanks ford
I returned a Dodge Dakota thru the Ca lemon law. Keep all of your paper work! You do end up paying for the mileage you drove. 5K for me but dealing with the same thing many times was the clincher. Time is money and it's a chunck to deal with it.
I'm sorry to hear about your issues if you have to give them 8 grand Plus the year of 750 payments plus the 3000 deposit you originally gave them, that's over 21,000 or nearly. And I have a 17 Explorer Sport with a 3.5 L EcoBoost was 69,000 miles on it and it has never been to the dealer I change my oil every 4,000 miles I changed my PTU fluid at 40,000 miles I've already done the rear brakes, but the front ones are still working fine at 70,000 🤷 although I did do tires around 40,000. Long story short I've always had pickups before this in the last about 20 years and GM to be specific and I would never buy another one and I've been toying with the idea of buying an F-150 Limited or platinum slightly used with low mileage but everyone I see the Carfax has a dealer buy back whether for a tailgate issue or PCM reprogram or something else so I'm trying to add everything together because I don't want to buy a truck that's going to sit in the shop I don't have time, I work and do estimates for my own business and just couldn't deal with a vehicle always breaking or having serious issues so now I have no idea what to do cuz I will not buy a Dodge or Toyota either
Hey - Any update? My truck has the same or similar problem. Its a 2016 XLT 3.5 Ecoboost. Its been in and out of the shop many times. My demands for Ford to buy back the truck were shut down. Back in the summer 2018, the dealership had it for 2 months. They ended up replacing the IPC cluster and gateway modules, and it appeared to have fixed the problem. Fast forward 1.5 years later and the issue has resurfaced (right when I got out of the bumper-to-bumper warranty). So now I'm on the hook for the costs even though it's the same issue I've had since I bought it. I am beyond frustrated and disappointed with Ford. I'll upload the video's that I have of mine. There has to be a way to get ford to acknowledge this as a known issue and make it right.
But you have all that proof you should open up a case with the Better Business Bureau and upload all your prior documents and they will help you out with a buyback. The only downside to this is opening a case through the Better Business Bureau you will have to pay roughly $0.50 per mile for every mile on that truck once they buy it back. This law doesn't necessarily protect the consumer at all there's a sports to buy a back and you're paying them to my back I have videos and documents covering this I'll have to upload later the Lemon Law doesn't protect the buyer at all and no way does it protect the buyer from a lemon vehicle
I did eventually. I parked it in my buddies shop garage until I could get them to acknowledge the issues on paper as a lemon. Once they did they bought it back at my expense lol. It was pretty funny they had a tow truck driving around looking for it for 2 months at least. Once the tow truck came to the door and was pissed threatened to call the cops, I said call them it's a civil matter I'll be right here. He was steaming 🤣 I'll have to update this scenario soon.
Ford and Chevy need to stop the collaboration as you can see lots of issues. Go across town the RAM and pickup a HEMI with the ZF-8 speed transmission. Im sure the RAM dealer can bail you out of this thing if the lemon law takes too long. You will never have transmissions issues and plus the transmission is just perfect. It reminds me of the Mercedes 7 speed transmission which was excellent too.
@@mattwagner8965 ZF transmission provide a world class experience with durability in mind. The ZF transmission can be found in your base modem dodge truck all the way up to Rolls Royce / Lamborghini.
@@mattwagner8965 The Hemi engine is a well known engine. Not only does it provide a great rumble at start up, it is tried and true. Paired with the 8 speed ZF 8HP75 it makes any task effortless.
@@richboimagic no it's a garbage motor with shit tons of intermittent codes and lifters shit out also they moved the cam so it dosent get oil at low rpm it's a trash motor my 5.0 pulls past those turds all day long
I’ve got the Ranger 2.3 w/ 10speed. Doing some research on the development end of the 10speed; I’ve come to the conclusion the ecoboost motors don’t have enough low-end torque for the transmission. It’s actually the same trans with different controller as the ZL1 Camaro. Thats why it performs so much better under load. It actually helps quite a bit to buy one of the tuners and run 93 gas. Looks like you were suffering ECU issues maybe a faulty board. People’s trucks drinking oil are likely turbo seals related. I would inspect the intercooler pipes and inlets for oil residue. All that to say: people have a different expectation buying domestic; the ecoboost platform can be good and I love mine, but it’s not the Ford of old for sure.
It’s the “adaptive driving learning tables” those tables are so screwed up Ford needs to get rid of that crap to let the transmission do what it needs to do, which is shift to a certain gear depending on how deep your right foot is into the gas, that’s it but that new technology is doing too much micro management to the vehicle itself. Sorry about your bad experience man
After seeing all the horror stories with these 10-speeds, I’m starting to regret not going with the 3.3/6-spd, as that seems to be the most reliable engine and transmission. I know it’s a lot slower and tows less than the 3 more popular engines, but would probably be the most worry-free long term. Hopefully my 2.7/10-spd holds up.
I hope so man wish you the best of luck. That ten to be transmission is so overrated. Sometimes it would slap and jerk back and forth in lower gears in between first and forth I would say was the most problematic but definitely when you would go to stop and it would downshift into first it would be really really jerky. I personally think it was the camshaft or the transmission before didn't want to acknowledge any problems they just forced me to buy it back with an attorney help
Work has a 3.3L V6 and I can tell you the problems don't stop. It's a new truck thing. I myself have a 4.3L 2016 Silverado and something like that happened to me after I changed wipers. But all my stuff came back after I restarted the truck.
Sell d truck, avoid d headaches, anxieties, cut your losses n get a tundra which has d three greatest truck features, reliability, durability, great resale value
The transmission was co developed with ford and gm. Gm uses different software and so far I haven't heard of any issues with the gm transmission. Of course a transmission is only as good as the truck it's bolted to.
That baby needs their baba!!! Sorry you have to deal with this. I have issues with my 2020 Mustang GT. Trans suck, electronics suck, and service does not care that we deal with these issues. No code, no issue. Didnt see it happend even if you provide videos for the tech….it didnt happen
Looks like that truck has electrical problems I don’t know if you bought it used or new if you bought it new I would take it back because you definitely got a lemon
brand new off show room floor. Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
I haven't bought a new truck since 1988. I wouldn't touch a new "anything" from our domestic automakers. Ford held out the longest, but now they all crap. It seems to be a recurring theme. US manufacturers are all going down in quality, with piss-poor engineering.
Have them turn off the intuitive driving, the computer try’s to learn how u drive and it’s obviously not doing it’s job, turn it off and it should fix it
I'll never buy a new vehicle, unless I was rich because it's just a shit investment unless that vehicle is making you 3 times the money your paying each month and it doesn't ever break down which we know nowadays these vehicles need way more maintenance then say a 90's 7.3 or a 306 inline which is bulletproof, 60g on a new truck or a mint squarebody that's 8g and you'll never put 20k into it , idk but I feel as the more advanced tech these trucks have its just more shit that breaks
Under warranty! I have had absolutely no problems with my F150. I spoke to my Ford Service manager and he doubts that Ford won’t help you. Every state has different lemon laws. South Carolina doesn’t have that mileage deal.
Believe me they wanted to fix the problem but they never could so in that case they had to buy it back as a lemon and I had to hire an attorney for that and when it came to that point no they did not want to acknowledge the problems at all but I obviously had all the paperwork invoices service documents and all the codes that they would pull on the truck the 20 times that I brought it in there so they had no choice but they absolutely did not want to acknowledge the problem and buy it back for me they absolutely did not like seeing me walk to the door at that point
With the initial price of vehicles, the protection where the consumer needs to pay the manufacturer to get out of a lemon, and these auto companies somehow still seem to have problems with revenue. I mean, WTF!
I have the 2020 5.0 And it is total piece of shit !! 6000 km and transmission all wrong they reprogrammed it, was perfect for 2 days and now it has come back worst than it was! It does the rattle when cold and sync 3 always messed up
Thats why you need to research vehicle of choice and see the reliability from Consumer Reports and google problems with the model that you are thinking of getting. Most people buy vehicles on impulse and never do any research.
I absolutely hated that 10-speed transmission it was so jerky it was rough that thing is not smooth at all I don't care what they say in any consumer crap you have to own one to know what it's like. 👍👍
@@superchaser3867 From 45mph it was great. Never knew what gear to be in town. Took it to three dealers, had the trans reflashed, etc. Now have a 2020 3.3v6/6spd in a Reg Cab. Good so far.
I learned a lot from this process. not matter the brand I will never buy a vehicle outright again. ill have to make another video on this legal stuff I wen through. Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Dear Sir I would suggest you not to drive that truck with your kids. My 2018 F150 Suddenly Accelerated on me and there was nothing I could do to stop it.
so how did you get it to stop? Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Why Ford did not use the ZF8HP automatic transmission? It's the world's best automatic transmission. czcams.com/video/u0BZhs4Ugag/video.html Ford 3.3L V6 naturally aspirated paired with ZF8HP, this will be a reliable powertrain because of no junk turbo engine or complicated hybrid system. Great review as always. Thanks.
I honestly think it was the transmission too but they didn't want to admit it. It would bang around in low gears and jerk. I told them about it and once they said it was normal, which is nonsense. Another tech said it wasn't throwing a code sooo there's nothing they could do looking into it lol. Bunch of dummies
I will never buy a Ford again. My 2018 3.5 is junk. It’s been with Ford 5 times for a total of 4 plus months since the start. Now I’m at 90k and this piece of shit I was never fixed. I was told my 2 case numbers now didn’t have info, fuck Ford
That's annoying... I'm literally thinking about getting a Raptor, because I'm over my RAM with the Hemi and ZF 8 speed. It's a good transmission but Chrysler's programming is horrible, it's often jerky and it slams into every gear when coming to a stop. The Hemi itself is a fun engine, but all of the changes they've made to made it more efficient (lighter materials on the exhaust manifold, shutting off cylinders under light load, ...) makes it a ticking bomb. I've seen camshafts with metal completely sheared off from stuck lifters, I already had to replace the exhaust bolts on one bank and I've only had it for 50k km... But this made me very insecure about the Fords as well... And I really don't like GM's interior.
Most of all the electrics are made in china so theres the problem, my 2012 stereo went caput and i removed it and on the back says made in china cost me 500.00 to have it rebuilt. Pathetic.
About 2000 F1 50 gets to be sold per day!! go ahead fix it Or sell it trade it in or go Vote for Donald Trump so he can make things great again or maybe keep complaining and see if it gets better.
😂 👍 Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Ford “bought” time as I went thru 6 oil pan replacements. 6!!!!!!!’ Until I reached my mileage mark. If I had time and money I would’ve sued them. They don’t give a shit about quality or safety. Dollars and cents.
you're right. Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
@@superchaser3867 Okay okay, how about this: Guy: * buys new truck * One truck out of thousands: I have issue. Guy: ALL OF THIS MODEL TRUCK SUCKS! There, fixed.
Your title is bullshit , you lump all 3,5's in your rant , if you make a fucking million of these every year you are bound to have an issue with the odd one ...don't think G M and Dodge are any different !!
I'm just stating I'm not the only one having this issue there needs to be a recall there's obviously a bigger issue that they don't want to address and acknowledge I'm not saying GM don't have problems or Dodge don't have problems I'm saying there's problems with these F-150 EcoBoost I should know I spent about 100 hours sitting in the shop waiting for my truck to be worked on or give back to me and all I see is these trucks coming in and out raptors all of them electrical issues computer issues you name it I sat there and talk to people and the waiting room with the same problems that I was having so I don't give a crap what you say!
Dear Friend 😢 so sorry for your problems with your Ford. Before you turn your truck in I have some friendly suggestions . 1. Have your computer reflashed . It sets your computer back to factory settings ( I believe). 2. Take it to a independent auto mechanic and ask them to reset the computer. 3. For the transmission that is shifting wonky have a transmission shop reflash the memory in the transmission. It will reset the memory of your driving style. 4. Do you have a manual mode on your truck. Put it in manual mode with your gear shifter and start off slow hitting the plus switch on your gear selector for each gear as you accelerate until you get up to 10 th gear. Then deaccelerate downshifting as you would in a standard shift truck. You are basically retraining the shifting points in the memory of your transmission. I’ve done this with my 2018 F150 2.7 ecoboost. It runs great now. I am not a mechanic but a fellow truck lover. Ask some of your friends who have their fords if they have done these suggestions. 5. Buy a auto scanner that can do these reflashes yourself. My tranny was balking between 3rd Skipping 4th and dragging into 5 th. Good luck and God bless. Tom. 09/04/23
Sorry to hear this brother. Hopefully everything worked out for the best.
Take it from an x ford owner there’s is no end to this shit your experience now. I di for 4 years Get rid of it buddy Ram took it off my hands and i had a Ram 1500 for three years now with the hemi and the 8speed ZF transmission and never looked back.
My 2017 3.5 ecoboost is awesome. Not one problem. Sorry to hear about your experience.
Yeah me too trust me I like the truck but boy it was a pain in the ass I guess I just got the bad one of the bunch
I have been through a similar experience with mine. I have a 2018 F150 lariat V8 and I have so many issues it’s insane. Oil consumption issue so they replaced the engine and it’s still going through 1.5 quarts in 3k miles which Ford Engineering says is normal. The deceleration rattle issue that Ford Engineering says is normal which we all know it’s not. AC Leaks, transmission rattles, radio freezing. It’s been at the dealer 15 times is 1.5yrs. It’s a joke and Ford is declining a buy back. Lemon law is really not on the consumers side at all. Now I understand why a lot of people don’t buy American cars. I’ve had to previous Ford explorers and this truck is by far the worst. I bought it specifically since I thought it would be reliable. The dealer just hides from the problems and won’t offer anything to get me into something else unless I loose out financially.
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You definitely got a lemon! Mines great without any of those issues. Yours must have been built on a Friday!
Agreed! That's probably a real thing too lol.
My 2020 has a drive train shudder at hwy speeds. After 4 visits to 2 different dealers I have filed for arbitration. My truck has 4500kms on it.
Get a tundra
My 2020 king ranch has driveline vibration also. Been going back and fourth with Ford for a while… what was your outcome ?
@@williamevans8404 I traded it for a Toyota. Ford Canada said it was driving characteristic. Couldn’t wait for a third party to access and arbitrate due to covid delays. So I took the financial hit and got rid of it. After owning over 30 vehicles that brand new f-150 was the worst I’ve owned.
@@randypinder1334 definitely not what I wanted to hear. Lol. They’ve replaced my driveshaft, rear shocks, torque converter and have done cam phasers and the vibration is still there. Their having a ford tech come in from Detroit now to drive my truck and try and figure it out.. beyond over it at this point
My 11 year old Tundra 5.7lL is still super reliable. 👍
Those engines are bullet proof! 👍 I owned an 07 4 door.
I know that feeling when a dealership refuses to work with you towards a resolution.
In my experience Autonation Ford has been a nightmare to work with, so frustrating that I found it easier to sell off the truck I'd invested so much money into rather than to continue to be fustrated with repeated bad customer service.
I had just about lost hope in Ford as a whole until one day
" To God be the Glory" I ran ito a dealership called Parkcity.
What a difference it has been a night to day comparison and I'm so sorry to say Fords are beautiful trucks but the truth to the matter is they come with many technicalities and with that in mind a honest, caring reputable dealership is a must.
In conclusion I learned it doesn't matter how much bumper to bumper or expended warranty you may have but what really matters is the character of the person who sits behind the service desk and their integrity and willingness to help customers.
No one should have to go to the extreme to find a simple solution especially when dealing with giant corporations like Ford. Good luck my friend.
Thank's brother! I agree. They obviously knew something was wrong with it but kept trying to point the finger at me as if I modified the truck which wout void warranty and they told me this even though the truck was completely stock I was upset. Long story short, I've learned to lease a vehicle if I am looking to purchase that vehicle in a long run and if at the end of that lease that vehicle proves itself worthy to purchase I will make that executive decision but I will never sign into a buyer's agreement ever again because the lemon laws did not protect the buyer from situations like this on a monetary level they only allowed the buyer to unbind from a purchase agreement given enough evidence deemed the vehicle a lemon it was the most miserable thing I've ever had to go through. I'm a Ford enthusiast and fan I've restored my generation one bronco, I even own an OJ Bronco and to be such a Ford fan and treated like crap and continuously LED to believe that it was something I was doing with the vehicle really pissed me off they knew there was something wrong and just did not want to be held accountable for it and they definitely did not willingly want to unbind me from the purchase agreement or give me a new vehicle they just wanted to see how far they could push me till I gave up and I'm not that type of person to give up. Is that in park city Utah?
Wish u luck I havnt had any issues got 50000 miles on mine now I got the 5.0
No it does not burn oil
Just rolled 60 k on miles still not one issue
I know your video was a while ago so you may have resolved your lemon law problem. But if you still have the truck try hiring a lemon law attorney. Most times the attorney gets paid by the car company so no out of pocket for you. Recommend watching Steve Lehto lemon law attorney in Michigan on youtube. You can even call him and he will refer you to a good attorney. Good luck and be well.
I just got one 4 weeks ago already regretted getting this 2020 xlt the transmission sucks hate it and that whistling sound on the 5.0
The whistle is only with the 5.0?
I’ve got a 2019 in a 5.0 and it’s a pos
Really. Please share, ide love to hear honest user feedback. Especially on the 302
@@superchaser3867 the gen 3 is a 307 and I love mine 60k miles on it not one issues and pulls like a bitch and is fast! And no it dosen't burn oil
@@mattwagner8965 what year did they start puttin in the gen 3 coyote ?
@@chandlergardner6655 2018
@@superchaser3867 The 3rd gen Coyote 5.0 is a completely new re-designed engine. It's a mess. They redesigned the block and removed the iron cylinder bore linings, using a nikasil lining instead. This has caused a ton of problems with piston slap. You can hear the pistons slapping around as the engine idles and it causes major wear issues with the pistons and cylinder bores. They also have a lot of major oil consumption issues. Major oil consumption. Some guys reported that a software update helped, but not for everybody. The engine has also had a ton of complaints over rattling cam phasers on cold start or when shifting gears at low speed. Also some complaints for sensations of hesitating like the engine is randomly losing power. They should have left the 2nd gen design alone.
I bought a brand new 2018 F150, with the 3.5 eco-boost motor/10 speed transmission. The truck was the biggest piece of crap I ever owned. My cam phasers went out three times. Went through three alternators, VCT sensor issues. Then Ford said that all the studs on one side of the exhaust manifold were broken off somehow. Which is strange, because they were the only ones ever in the motor.
They wouldn’t work with me on a trade-in for a new vehicle, so I went over to GMC and got a new Sierra AT4. Best truck I’ve ever owned.
wow. I believe everything you say.... Ford was unwilling to fix the issue with this truck until I got a legal representation.
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
What's the status on your lemon law buy back? Been dealing with issues with my 2019 5.0 F150.
I stayed away from all these trucks. I bought a Taco 2019 with a stick. This sucks all these problems.
I went with a Tacoma too
The 5.0 is the way to go if your gonna buy a f150. To much bs with these super small engines adding all the boost to make up for what it lacks and in the end gas mileage is still the same or worse and it's super complicated and expensive to diagnose and fix
@@superchaser3867 '14 5.0L with 6R80 trans...zero issues at 110k with LOTS of 3000lb+ towing. Mine was built in Dearborn. Sucks that yours was built at 4:45pm on a Friday.
Check your ground wire connections. Frame to body. There’s several of them. One of mine was loose. Cleaned it up and retightened and fixed all the issues.
Trans to body ground is in a bad spot and corrodes quickly. That’s the worst one. Clean it and reinstall. Also clear out adaptive learning tables for transmission.
not mine to fix. it was ultimately fords truck and they couldn't fix it. not my problem.
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Yup!!!! I know what you talking about,my was 2021f150 xlt, mine only had under 1,900 miles and my tranny was doing the same thing , so I sold it... before got worse, now that I watched your video I'm glad I got rid of my truck don't get me wrong I do like Ford pickups, but honestly if I ever buy a new pick up again I'm going to buy a Toyota, and more likely it'll be the tundra.
I hear that.. tundra are made in USA
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Just had the transmission rebuilt on my 2020 3,5 Ecoboost @ 12k miles and no towing. Also had the cam phasers replaced and it needs to go back next week for suspension noise. I’m ready to trade it in for something else already…
Jesus, that sucks bro! I Ended up buying a Chevy
I have a 2020 also with suspension noise. It sounds like the frame is twisting. I should have kept my titan
@@scottheathsh dealer replaced my leaf springs and the noise is gone and rides smoother like it should.
@@big10hunter42 I took it to the dealer and they replaced a bushing in the back seat.. the truck still makes a clunking noise . It's a 2020 with 1900 miles. I'm gonna have to take it back to them
I've had some of the same problems with my 10 speed transmission F-150 King Range. I'll never buy anything over the year 2000 (buy older work trucks from the 70's - 80's). These new so called upgraded city beater trucks are rolling computers and are so touchy. Get an older truck that isn't that touchy and one can have control over it and the truck does what it's supposed to do.
I have a 2017 5.0 6speed
It drops from 6th to 1st sometimes on the freeway just to keep me alert. It is an awesome feature! And when I’m sitting at a light and my gauges disappear and it throws me into a random gear... i know ford cares, so much so that they want me focused on not getting rear ended. Lol thanks ford
I returned a Dodge Dakota thru the Ca lemon law. Keep all of your paper work! You do end up paying for the mileage you drove. 5K for me but dealing with the same thing many times was the clincher. Time is money and it's a chunck to deal with it.
I'm sorry to hear about your issues if you have to give them 8 grand Plus the year of 750 payments plus the 3000 deposit you originally gave them, that's over 21,000 or nearly. And I have a 17 Explorer Sport with a 3.5 L EcoBoost was 69,000 miles on it and it has never been to the dealer I change my oil every 4,000 miles I changed my PTU fluid at 40,000 miles I've already done the rear brakes, but the front ones are still working fine at 70,000 🤷 although I did do tires around 40,000. Long story short I've always had pickups before this in the last about 20 years and GM to be specific and I would never buy another one and I've been toying with the idea of buying an F-150 Limited or platinum slightly used with low mileage but everyone I see the Carfax has a dealer buy back whether for a tailgate issue or PCM reprogram or something else so I'm trying to add everything together because I don't want to buy a truck that's going to sit in the shop I don't have time, I work and do estimates for my own business and just couldn't deal with a vehicle always breaking or having serious issues so now I have no idea what to do cuz I will not buy a Dodge or Toyota either
Ford Focus On What 3.5 Law Reasonable Don't?
I would never buy another eco boost engine ever again. smh horrible engines
2021 Tremor F150. Currently at 8k miles. Been dealing with a shudder issue since day one. It’s very very aggravating. 70k for a truck that shakes.
Hey - Any update?
My truck has the same or similar problem. Its a 2016 XLT 3.5 Ecoboost. Its been in and out of the shop many times. My demands for Ford to buy back the truck were shut down. Back in the summer 2018, the dealership had it for 2 months. They ended up replacing the IPC cluster and gateway modules, and it appeared to have fixed the problem. Fast forward 1.5 years later and the issue has resurfaced (right when I got out of the bumper-to-bumper warranty). So now I'm on the hook for the costs even though it's the same issue I've had since I bought it. I am beyond frustrated and disappointed with Ford.
I'll upload the video's that I have of mine.
There has to be a way to get ford to acknowledge this as a known issue and make it right.
But you have all that proof you should open up a case with the Better Business Bureau and upload all your prior documents and they will help you out with a buyback. The only downside to this is opening a case through the Better Business Bureau you will have to pay roughly $0.50 per mile for every mile on that truck once they buy it back. This law doesn't necessarily protect the consumer at all there's a sports to buy a back and you're paying them to my back I have videos and documents covering this I'll have to upload later the Lemon Law doesn't protect the buyer at all and no way does it protect the buyer from a lemon vehicle
Stop payment and let them repossess the truck.
I did eventually. I parked it in my buddies shop garage until I could get them to acknowledge the issues on paper as a lemon. Once they did they bought it back at my expense lol.
It was pretty funny they had a tow truck driving around looking for it for 2 months at least. Once the tow truck came to the door and was pissed threatened to call the cops, I said call them it's a civil matter I'll be right here. He was steaming 🤣
I'll have to update this scenario soon.
@@superchaser3867 get a tundra
Stop payment and ruin your credit rating
@@superchaser3867 lmao
That will destroy your credit. He needs a lawyer.. file under lemon law/buyback.
So one of the cams has a problem??? Good thing the other 3 are ok
Ford and Chevy need to stop the collaboration as you can see lots of issues. Go across town the RAM and pickup a HEMI with the ZF-8 speed transmission. Im sure the RAM dealer can bail you out of this thing if the lemon law takes too long. You will never have transmissions issues and plus the transmission is just perfect. It reminds me of the Mercedes 7 speed transmission which was excellent too.
Lol the hemi motor is junk and so is dodge that's why their still trying to sell trucks after all these years
Dodge transmissions suck dude what u talking about?
@@mattwagner8965 ZF transmission provide a world class experience with durability in mind. The ZF transmission can be found in your base modem dodge truck all the way up to Rolls Royce / Lamborghini.
@@mattwagner8965 The Hemi engine is a well known engine. Not only does it provide a great rumble at start up, it is tried and true. Paired with the 8 speed ZF 8HP75 it makes any task effortless.
@@richboimagic no it's a garbage motor with shit tons of intermittent codes and lifters shit out also they moved the cam so it dosent get oil at low rpm it's a trash motor my 5.0 pulls past those turds all day long
I’ve got the Ranger 2.3 w/ 10speed. Doing some research on the development end of the 10speed; I’ve come to the conclusion the ecoboost motors don’t have enough low-end torque for the transmission. It’s actually the same trans with different controller as the ZL1 Camaro. Thats why it performs so much better under load. It actually helps quite a bit to buy one of the tuners and run 93 gas.
Looks like you were suffering ECU issues maybe a faulty board.
People’s trucks drinking oil are likely turbo seals related. I would inspect the intercooler pipes and inlets for oil residue.
All that to say: people have a different expectation buying domestic; the ecoboost platform can be good and I love mine, but it’s not the Ford of old for sure.
It’s the “adaptive driving learning tables” those tables are so screwed up Ford needs to get rid of that crap to let the transmission do what it needs to do, which is shift to a certain gear depending on how deep your right foot is into the gas, that’s it but that new technology is doing too much micro management to the vehicle itself. Sorry about your bad experience man
After seeing all the horror stories with these 10-speeds, I’m starting to regret not going with the 3.3/6-spd, as that seems to be the most reliable engine and transmission. I know it’s a lot slower and tows less than the 3 more popular engines, but would probably be the most worry-free long term. Hopefully my 2.7/10-spd holds up.
I hope so man wish you the best of luck. That ten to be transmission is so overrated. Sometimes it would slap and jerk back and forth in lower gears in between first and forth I would say was the most problematic but definitely when you would go to stop and it would downshift into first it would be really really jerky. I personally think it was the camshaft or the transmission before didn't want to acknowledge any problems they just forced me to buy it back with an attorney help
Work has a 3.3L V6 and I can tell you the problems don't stop. It's a new truck thing. I myself have a 4.3L 2016 Silverado and something like that happened to me after I changed wipers. But all my stuff came back after I restarted the truck.
Sell d truck, avoid d headaches, anxieties, cut your losses n get a tundra which has d three greatest truck features, reliability, durability, great resale value
Is this the same 10Speed that is in the GM trucks? Didn't Ford and GM make and engineer this jointly?
I think Scotty Kilmer said they did and then went their separate ways lol
The transmission was co developed with ford and gm. Gm uses different software and so far I haven't heard of any issues with the gm transmission. Of course a transmission is only as good as the truck it's bolted to.
So,GM makes a better truck?.
William Garbutt All these trucks have their issues, just never buy the first year of any new generation
@@apm9151
Except ford. They're still having the same problems year after year.
Have a 2011 f150 ecoboost 3.5 and it sucks
That baby needs their baba!!! Sorry you have to deal with this. I have issues with my 2020 Mustang GT. Trans suck, electronics suck, and service does not care that we deal with these issues. No code, no issue. Didnt see it happend even if you provide videos for the tech….it didnt happen
Looks like that truck has electrical problems I don’t know if you bought it used or new if you bought it new I would take it back because you definitely got a lemon
brand new off show room floor.
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
@@superchaser3867 yes you should
I haven't bought a new truck since 1988. I wouldn't touch a new "anything" from our domestic automakers. Ford held out the longest, but now they all crap. It seems to be a recurring theme. US manufacturers are all going down in quality, with piss-poor engineering.
You nailed it.
Have them turn off the intuitive driving, the computer try’s to learn how u drive and it’s obviously not doing it’s job, turn it off and it should fix it
My 2018 Lariat has been trouble free so far with 49k on the odometer.
18 3.5 eb 51,000 mi. 🤘🤘 no complaints
Get a hold of Scotty on youtube. He will blow up Ford on his channel. Has over Million subs.
Scotty is a clown.
@@karlschauff7989 I hate it when he waves his hands around when he talks
well omg just have the dealer buy it back ?
I did. Wasn't easy. They didn't want to acknowledge the issues. Hired a lawyer, they had no choice after then. Lemoned out!
I bought a 2020 f-150 3 weeks ago with 11k miles and now my transmission is shifting hard 🤬
I'll never buy a new vehicle, unless I was rich because it's just a shit investment unless that vehicle is making you 3 times the money your paying each month and it doesn't ever break down which we know nowadays these vehicles need way more maintenance then say a 90's 7.3 or a 306 inline which is bulletproof, 60g on a new truck or a mint squarebody that's 8g and you'll never put 20k into it , idk but I feel as the more advanced tech these trucks have its just more shit that breaks
you are exactly right 👍
Under warranty! I have had absolutely no problems with my F150. I spoke to my Ford Service manager and he doubts that Ford won’t help you. Every state has different lemon laws. South Carolina doesn’t have that mileage deal.
Believe me they wanted to fix the problem but they never could so in that case they had to buy it back as a lemon and I had to hire an attorney for that and when it came to that point no they did not want to acknowledge the problems at all but I obviously had all the paperwork invoices service documents and all the codes that they would pull on the truck the 20 times that I brought it in there so they had no choice but they absolutely did not want to acknowledge the problem and buy it back for me they absolutely did not like seeing me walk to the door at that point
@@superchaser3867 You need to move to a consumer friendly state! That absolutely stinks.
Don’t pay them crap
With the initial price of vehicles, the protection where the consumer needs to pay the manufacturer to get out of a lemon, and these auto companies somehow still seem to have problems with revenue. I mean, WTF!
I have the 2020 5.0
And it is total piece of shit !! 6000 km and transmission all wrong they reprogrammed it, was perfect for 2 days and now it has come back worst than it was! It does the rattle when cold and sync 3 always messed up
Even your baby is upset with the truck!
What a rip. These big corporations lobby to have laws that support their inferior product.
Thats why you need to research vehicle of choice and see the reliability from Consumer Reports and google problems with the model that you are thinking of getting. Most people buy vehicles on impulse and never do any research.
Unfortunately, there are lemons made by every manufacturer.
Got a 2020 3100 miles on it and it is a piece of shit burns oil 2 oil change on 3100 miles going back on Friday
I traded my 2018 5.0/10 spd after 11k for a 2016 5.0/6spd.
I absolutely hated that 10-speed transmission it was so jerky it was rough that thing is not smooth at all I don't care what they say in any consumer crap you have to own one to know what it's like. 👍👍
@@superchaser3867 From 45mph it was great. Never knew what gear to be in town. Took it to three dealers, had the trans reflashed, etc. Now have a 2020 3.3v6/6spd in a Reg Cab. Good so far.
Dude you got a lemon my raptor works great. That sucks
I’ve learned a long time ago, never buy a Ford.
I learned a lot from this process. not matter the brand I will never buy a vehicle outright again. ill have to make another video on this legal stuff I wen through.
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Dear Sir I would suggest you not to drive that truck with your kids. My 2018 F150 Suddenly Accelerated on me and there was nothing I could do to stop it.
so how did you get it to stop?
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
All this new technology is absolute crap. I have a 1991 Nissan Pathfinder 4x4, 31 years old with 185,000 miles Basically Bullet proof.
Better buy a older truck
Ditch it
Why Ford did not use the ZF8HP automatic transmission?
It's the world's best automatic transmission.
czcams.com/video/u0BZhs4Ugag/video.html
Ford 3.3L V6 naturally aspirated paired with ZF8HP, this will be a reliable powertrain because of no junk turbo engine or complicated hybrid system.
Great review as always. Thanks.
I honestly think it was the transmission too but they didn't want to admit it. It would bang around in low gears and jerk. I told them about it and once they said it was normal, which is nonsense. Another tech said it wasn't throwing a code sooo there's nothing they could do looking into it lol. Bunch of dummies
I will never buy a Ford again. My 2018 3.5 is junk. It’s been with Ford 5 times for a total of 4 plus months since the start. Now I’m at 90k and this piece of shit I was never fixed. I was told my 2 case numbers now didn’t have info, fuck Ford
Why don’t you just trade it in at another dealer instead of spending all your money 💰????
They bought it back as a lemon
That's annoying... I'm literally thinking about getting a Raptor, because I'm over my RAM with the Hemi and ZF 8 speed. It's a good transmission but Chrysler's programming is horrible, it's often jerky and it slams into every gear when coming to a stop. The Hemi itself is a fun engine, but all of the changes they've made to made it more efficient (lighter materials on the exhaust manifold, shutting off cylinders under light load, ...) makes it a ticking bomb. I've seen camshafts with metal completely sheared off from stuck lifters, I already had to replace the exhaust bolts on one bank and I've only had it for 50k km...
But this made me very insecure about the Fords as well... And I really don't like GM's interior.
Tacoma TRD..?
Most of all the electrics are made in china so theres the problem, my 2012 stereo went caput and i removed it and on the back says made in china cost me 500.00 to have it rebuilt. Pathetic.
Ford is makes their new vehicles out of last years recycled lemons looool
About 2000 F1 50 gets to be sold per day!! go ahead fix it Or sell it trade it in or go Vote for Donald Trump so he can make things great again or maybe keep complaining and see if it gets better.
You bought a Ford is the problem
😂 👍
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
So apparently someone can’t afford their vehicle, lol if you take your vehicle out of 4x4 your problems will disappear
It's not in 4x4, It had electrical issues they could never fix! So apparently your an idiot! 😆😳🤔🤗✌️✌️
Hate the ford dongs.
Yep can't stand their chime.
Ford “bought” time as I went thru 6 oil pan replacements. 6!!!!!!!’ Until I reached my mileage mark. If I had time and money I would’ve sued them. They don’t give a shit about quality or safety. Dollars and cents.
you're right.
Ford was never able to fix the issue. The truck was drivable, but not able to enter into any modes tow, traction etc. tow mode was not accessible which is why I purchased the truck. Ford eventually bought the truck back as a Lemon. The process wasn't easy and cost me money in the end. I learned a lot from this process. I should make another video covering the things I learned along the way. 👍
Guy: *buys used car*
Car: "I was used and abused by the previous owner."
Guy: "Well this specific year/make/model sucks!"
It was brand new!! 😂
@@superchaser3867 Okay okay, how about this:
Guy: * buys new truck *
One truck out of thousands: I have issue.
Guy: ALL OF THIS MODEL TRUCK SUCKS!
There, fixed.
FORD ROUGH
No doubt.
Your title is bullshit , you lump all 3,5's in your rant , if you make a fucking million of these every year you are bound to have an issue with the odd one ...don't think G M and Dodge are any different !!
I'm just stating I'm not the only one having this issue there needs to be a recall there's obviously a bigger issue that they don't want to address and acknowledge I'm not saying GM don't have problems or Dodge don't have problems I'm saying there's problems with these F-150 EcoBoost I should know I spent about 100 hours sitting in the shop waiting for my truck to be worked on or give back to me and all I see is these trucks coming in and out raptors all of them electrical issues computer issues you name it I sat there and talk to people and the waiting room with the same problems that I was having so I don't give a crap what you say!
PS your comment is ignorant!