Thank you for making these videos! Finding these functions on an Allen and Heath using just the console hasn't been as easy for me as other brands. Your instructions have illustrated the functions for which I've been seeking!
Thank you so much for the QU32 series videos. Everything went so smoothly on a job I had last week beacuse I was very secure about what I could and coudn't do with the mixer.
This is very helpful. In the past I would use a Stereo Mix for my Live Stream out, but it was always missing the FX. Using a Matrix, I can duplicate the main Mix (including FX), but have Volume and EQ control.. Thanks so much Rob..
Duuuuude! Finally I get it…) 10 years of audio engineering…)))) in my defence - never been in situation to use a matrix) always needed balance adjustments to send mix to another sound source (lobby, launge room)
Really sound advice. Thank you so much 🙌🏾. I have been using the rec out to send sound to our livestream but wanted a separate control. Now I can use the Matrix 🔥🔥
Thank you for a well done video. We have just started with a new SQ6 and this is very helpful. My first time on the console was an orchestra so I didn't have anything in the LR mix but I wanted to record and send audio to the lobby and green room. I'll be able to set that up for the next time.
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 It did go very well, and with your easy explaination, setting up the matrix for a 2nd row of speakers was super easy. Once we have found the perfect delay, (I see lots of playing with the mixer in my near future.. hehe), we will be using this system at most of the open-air events this year. So again thank you.
Hi there. I have the QU-SB & it does have a matrix out 1-2 but is only in TS output (no XLR) & there is no 3-4 output as well even though it’s visible on the app. Is there a way to change the stereo mix outs to a matrix out with routing? Please help…
Sorry but it’s the limitation of the SB hardware. Matrix3-4 is only available when using an expansion box like an AR2412 etc. 3-4 is not avaiable directly on the SB. There is no way to “reroute” the matrix to another physical output
The major challenge with this equipment is the ability to connect and assign the “Mix” outputs to about 6 (six) speakers connected to the back of QU-32 mixer. Currently l was able to hear sound via the R/L - Main outputs but not via the Mix Output ports numbered #1 through #10. I followed pages 39 and 40 of the instruction manual, still there was no sound outputs from the 6 (six) speakers connected to the mix outputs #1 through #10. I am sure that l am doing something wrong. Does anyone has a CZcams Tutorial link on this subject matter or any other video tutorial on how to apportion multiple speakers to the 10 (ten) mix outputs ports of the QU-32? Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
Hi Bill great question. If you check out my video on "How and why to use pre or post fader" I do talk quite a bit about using the Mix outputs. If you give that go and still have questions, Id be happy to help
Rob, I am new to this board and recording. Thank you for these videos! I need additional help and wondered if you would consider a phone support session to get me through some initial stumbling blocks?
Hi Rob, on a Qu-24, I need a mono output to feed a 2 speaker flown main cluster that was installed as a parallel setup with only one speaker wire going to foh mixer. I currently am panning everything L on all channels and panning main output L also. Would it be best to send LR to a matrix and then pan the matrix and then use the corresponding rear matrix output in this situation? Thanks
I would appreciate a tutorial on how to send sound to a separate mixer that will handle sound for a live stream. From the qu 32 to any other powdered mixer🙏🏽 thanks
Thx. great suggestion. unfortunately the QU series does not have a digital option for splitting inputs. if you really need to use another mixer then an analog splitter would be the option. you can however just use an aux/mix output dedicated to streaming and use an ipad to mix that output. that would be the easiest solution
OHHHH... The pre vs post fader threw me off. i was thinking it was "pre-individual-channel-faders" not "pre-master-fader". Our master fader needs to be way down as the front of house amp is turned as low as it will go. But I wanted the matrixes to be louder to send to the hard of hearing headsets and the livestream. I'm on teh SQ Series, but this should work. I'll try tonight.
Thank you again for yet another excellent video on the Qu series. I'm new to digital mixers and and the concept of using matrices. It's my understanding that among the many uses for a matrix there are creating separate mixes of channels for front fills and subwoofers. In other words, you may not need or want to include all the same sources (instruments) in the front fills or the subwoofers as you have in your master mix feeding your main left and right speakers. And this is apparently something that a matrix can do. I have the A&H Qu-16 which, as you mentioned, does not have the matrix feature though. Can you use the mix masters (Mix1-10) to accomplish the same thing? Any tips on doing that? Thanks.
Thx. Glad you found it helpful. To be clear you can only assign outputs to a matrix so there is no ability create a different mix using a matrix. That’s what an aux/mix is for - creating “separate mixes of channels”. Now if you decide you still want just an exact copy of an output (the intention of a matrix) then yes you can simulate it on a qu16. On the mix you choose set all faders to unity including the master. Then set all channels in that mix to postfader. That mix will now follow and be a copy of your LR. It’s as close as you can get to a matrix on a qu16
Just found your channel and loving it. I'm researching the qu series mixers and others, trying to decide what to upgrade to. I'm coming from a studiolive 16.4.2 first gen. I want a rack mixer and something that can be controlled wirelessly via tablet, but with faders for backup. Would you recommend the qu16 over others, for example the studiolive 16 series iii, or what would you recommend? Thanks in advance!
Thx. Glad you found it helpful. The. Qu16 is a great piece of gear however to be fair is more then 10yrs old now and AH have several newer offerings. If budget is a strong factor you can still get all the QU series used at very good prices. Of course the features of the SQ for instance might be the right investment. Have fun!
I have a question! Is there a way to make the mix master volume slave to the LR master volume? We want to be able to lower the volume on all outputs with one control....
The closest you could get would be to set the mix to post-fader. Reducing any LR channel would then be reduced in that mix. Matrix (also set to postfade) are the only other way to have a second output that directly follows LR
Question for you, Rob: For our livestream, we use two scnes, one for our worship team, amd one for the pastor doing the preaching. Can I use the same Mix for both scenes, or is it "one mix, one scene?"
A scene is simply a snapshot of the configuration of the mixer at a particular moment. Theres no reason to use a diff mix just because you load a diff scene.
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 so if I switch a scene in our live FOH L/R, if I designate the Mix output correctly for use as our livestream output, will it change scenes along with the FOH scenes?
Hey Rob! I had a weird question… i’m trying to see if there’s a way our church’s livestream could sound wider; giving the sense that the mix is stereo even though it’s technically mono. I had two thoughts - but one of the ideas would require more work. I’m currently using Mix 5-6 for the livestream, and piping it to Matrix 1-2. I did it this way because, since I do not have an available separate mixer to EQ the channels, I decided that Matrix 1-2 would allow me to have some type of shaping by using PEQ and Compression. Since everything coming into the Matrix is technically a Mono signal, panning at the Channel level, only helps to choose where I would like to place the sound, not really give it any depth or spacial sound. Sooo…. Here are my thoughts.. Should I run Mix 5-6 to Matrix 1-2 AND 3-4, so that I can pan hard left and right? Then I would use Matrix 1 & 4 as my stereo mix for the livestream. OOOORRRR… the harder route.. Use Mix 5-6 & 7-8 then pan 5-6 Left, and 7-8 right. That way I can use Matrix 1-2 as a Stereo channel for my mix? I know this method would require a lot more work in balancing the audio, but it also might give me more depth and separation to create a wider sound… I just wish Matrix 1-2 were two separate faders, and had the ability to hard pan 1 to Left and 2 to Right.
Hi there...some interesting ideas for sure. Both sound valid in concept its just a matter of finding out if you get "enough" of the result youre looking for based the work required (certainly with your second option). Here's the first thing I'd try... are you using ambient /room mics? Assuming that you are, I would start by changing their location to be as opposite as possible in your space. Put one close up front and one as far back as possible. If one is far right put the other far left. Then start playing with the mix of those two locations. You might be surprised. Next, reverse their locations. You might find the one closest to the drummer needs to be on the opposite side etc. Let me know
Thanks, Rob! There was a point that I was using a single shotgun mic towards the back of the room, but at the time I didn’t think about proper placement or distance. I’ll get two mics setup this time, and try different setups and see which one would yield the best results. Still in the trial and error stage, so I’ll see what happens.
Hey Rob! So I took your advice on setting up crowd mics, and what a difference it has made. It’s not exactly where I want it just yet, but it’s a start! Currently, I have Mix 5-6 going to Matrix 1-2. I did it this way so I could have a little more EQ control over the mix, since I don’t have much channel EQ control because I share the board with our in-house L-R Mix. I then go from Matrix 1-2 to my Zoom F6, which connects to my iPad for Switcher Studio. I’m too far away from the board to use the USB out feature, so XLR works best at the moment. On the Zoom F6, I have one input panned hard left, and the other panned hard right (I’m thinking of changing this to 3/4 pans instead). So…. here are my thoughts.. To get the directional and width I am looking for, it sounded like I may need to separate the vocals and instruments into two different mixes. Soo, I’m going to try using Mix 7-8 for the purpose of width of sound, then use Mix 5-6 for more directional. Hoping this will help bring more separation and width.
Hey Rob! Your videos are soo helpful. I wanted to ask you if you have a tutorial video on how to leave a mic on in ears but not on the main L-R (House)
Thx Victor. No video for that specific item however its as easy as simply pulling down the fader for that mic in L/R. The mic shannel will have its own level set in the mix you’re using for the IEM
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thank you for replying! For some reason when I bring that fader down it loses all sound from IEMs. I’m using tracks as well and I’m trying to take the clock out of the mains L/R
If you mix level drops when change the LR channel fader then your Mix has been set to post fader. The mix needs to be prefader to be independent of LR changes. That one I do have a video for. Click Videos on my channel page for a full list
Hi Rob, I am using the ALT OUT from the QU 16 to feed audio to our video camera at church. I am not able to get enough signal to make the audio loud enough. I am using 1/4 inch to XLR from the board to the video camera. Any idea why the signal is so low coming out of the alt out? Thanks Jamie
Can we customize what channels get to be copied to the matrix output? I want use matrix output for our live streaming but in addition would like to enable condenser mic. Is that possible or I can only do that using mix?
Only mix outputs can be assigned to a matrix and not individual channels. You could create a mix set to post fader then add the condenser to that mix and assign that mix to a matrix
At the end of this video I explain how to set a mix postfade so it follows the main LR. I explain it using a qu16 because that unit does not have matrix and this method will simulate a matrix. czcams.com/video/XzeCInjOiEE/video.html
Good day Rob, Can you jus tell me,does the Console have an option to use one output for ur sub outs,without have to Eq...... Maybe one thats comes with a Hpf option????
Sorry no. None of the qu series have a dedicated sub output. You can of course use any of the existing mix outputs and taylor it as you want to feed the subs.
Thank you alot Rob. Do you have poscasts or classes? Recently jus bought a Qu32 and im trying to learn as much,as quick as possible...... Thank you for the support
Great question. Yes and No, due to the differences. An Aux output is an independent layer where all of the channels can be mixed for a custom output. A Matrix is simply a copy of the assigned output. You do have some processing (eq etc) but there is no way to mix individual channels when using a matrix. That being said if all you want is a copy of an existing output as an “extra” output then go ahead and use a matrix.
thanks rob. I thought there was no delay in the matrix. I've never gone into processing. so can i control a subwoofer for example? but I don't think you can make a cardioid because I don't see phase reverse
I wouldn’t recommend a matrix for subwoofer since the matrix will be a full copy of the output you assign. Use a mix/Aux output so you can send only the appropriate input channels to the subwoofer
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thanks Rob. watching the video i saw that you used shelv to cut the low frequencies. can it work in your opinion? because unfortunately i noticed that you cannot use hpf on the qu32 outputs. this if I wanted to use the outputs of the qu32 without an external processor
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thanks Rob I'll try. sorry again, but when we use the custom layer do you know if you can see the colors on the faders like in layer 1 or 2? blue for the effects and yellow for the channels? maybe there is a way in the setup?
Hi Paul. The matrix is simply a duplicate copy of the assigned output but does allow for its own processing. Check to be sure that the processing you have assigned to the matrix is the same as the processing used on the output.
Rob you know in X32 you can separate the low from the main out but i know that qu24 doesnt so how do you manage that cos now i have to use a crossover to separate it. Can you help
Unfortunately there is technically no way to seperate the stereo mixes into mon channels. There is however a workaround. Using the PAN knob you can choose to push each channel within a mix to full left or full right. For instance, Select Mix5-6 then choose any channel that is part of the Mix. Setting the PAN to full left will make that channel appear in Mix5 only and pushing PAN to full right will make that channel appear in only Mix6. This as close as you will get using the QU series
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Thank you so much for this information. Not tech geek just trying to do my best in our church. I'm going to mention that to person in charge of the mixer ( about the same knowledge ) what you told me. One last question if i end up doing what you said would it be possible to use the App on my phone to add the rest of the instruments? Right now we have the 2nd Guitar just hearing ourselves NO other instruments in our (personal ear monitor box). Can we add them? Sorry for all these question, just trying to understand the most i can. Once again Thank you. God Bless You
Great question. Technically you *could* use a matrix for subs depending on what output(s) you route to that matrix. It would be a bit of a waste to route LR to a matrix for subs because you would need to EQ all of the signal out of that signal above what the subs are intended to handle. You would be better to route a dedicated Aux/Mix output to subs and only send the instrumentation that is best for subs (kick, bass gtr, low synth pads etc)
Wow great question but with lots of variables to be considered. First the question is like asking Mac or PC…. Or Ford vs Chevy. Personally I’m and A&H guy and have been for many years. It where I’m comfortable and typically my first choice. Second there are lots of pros and cons for both of these boards, so it really depends on your needs, and how you like to work. Last, its almost not a fair question because we’re not really comparing apples to apples. The DM3 is brand new this year (or past year) while the QU16 is now more than 10yrs old. Technology changes fast in this business, however the QU is still a very capable piece of gear and I still use them regularly. Sorry I can’t give you a simple answer to this one. I suggest you rent them both and find out which works better for you. Have fun!
These are two diff and in fact opposite functions. A group/subgroup output allows you to group together several “inputs” eg. Channels etc. A Matrix allows you to combine outputs eg. Mix1 + Mix2 + Mix 4. The most common use for a matrix is simply a “copy” of an existing output such as LR
Yes you can use a matrix output to feed you live stream. However since a matrix is essentially a copy of another existing output, why not just use that output?
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 But a matrix, by your own description, can be a mix of mixes. A good use case for live streaming might be where you want to include the sounds of big ambient instruments, which you mightn't want fed back through the house speakers. A pipe organ or congregational voices in a church, for example. That might be what @bgnicolas was getting at with the condenser mic question. On our old ZED-428 we had such a condenser mic on its own group. Then we could dial up the gain as required and not risk feedback howl.
Can be done. However it depends on what output you feed to the matrix. If it’s LR then you still need some processing to eliminate the frequencies that are not for the subs. Some would prefer to feed the sub via an aux where you only send the inputs you want in the subs from the start rather than removing stuff after the fact
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 i think its routing but not sure. Basically wireless shure mics where connected to two channels, suddenly yesterday to today started the Qu 32 and those two channels changed for some reason to PC L and PC R being both channels linked together
Right. The closest you can get is assign 2 outputs to the matrix and push one hard left and the other hard right. In theory you can then get 4 mono outs
Thank you for making these videos! Finding these functions on an Allen and Heath using just the console hasn't been as easy for me as other brands. Your instructions have illustrated the functions for which I've been seeking!
Rob, I just wanted to say THANK YOU!!! Your guides have been an amazing help! I've watched all your QU series videos multiple times! True lifesaver!
Thx very much for the kind words. Glad it was helpful
Thank you so much for the QU32 series videos. Everything went so smoothly on a job I had last week beacuse I was very secure about what I could and coudn't do with the mixer.
Thx. Very glad I was able to help
This is very helpful. In the past I would use a Stereo Mix for my Live Stream out, but it was always missing the FX. Using a Matrix, I can duplicate the main Mix (including FX), but have Volume and EQ control.. Thanks so much Rob..
Thx. Glad it helped. As a side note, you can add FX to a stereo mix by using the FX return. See my other video on using FX
Excellent, as always! Thank you for sharing your vast QU knowledge Rob. I always pick up something new.
Thx Joel. Glad you found it helpful
Thankx Mr.Rob…. Love the simple method you used to communicate powerful tips
Thanks. Glad you found it helpful
Thanks Rob, great video. I learned so much!
Matrix means copy of output, with the ability to eq, set volume. Finally makes sense!
Thx. Glad it was helpful
Duuuuude! Finally I get it…) 10 years of audio engineering…)))) in my defence - never been in situation to use a matrix) always needed balance adjustments to send mix to another sound source (lobby, launge room)
You couldn’t have explained it any better. Thanks Rob
Thx. Glad you found it helpful
Really sound advice. Thank you so much 🙌🏾. I have been using the rec out to send sound to our livestream but wanted a separate control. Now I can use the Matrix 🔥🔥
So helpful, thank you! I don’t have a Qu series but was able to transfer the same knowledge/logic to my SQ5 :)
Thank you Rob. I learn a lot about my Qu24 with your tuto.👍🏻
Thx… Glad it was helpful
Hey
Thank you for making videos its very helpful ☺️
Your videos are fantastic - applicable knowledge. Please make more!
Thx. More to come
Thank you for a well done video. We have just started with a new SQ6 and this is very helpful. My first time on the console was an orchestra so I didn't have anything in the LR mix but I wanted to record and send audio to the lobby and green room. I'll be able to set that up for the next time.
Excellent video. Great explanations and to the point. Thanks!
Thx for the kind words. Glad it was helpful
Very well explained. While I don’t have an A&H mixer, I was able to follow along using RME Totalmix FX software
Excellent explanation! Thank you ❤
Thanks Rob, great info,
wow wow thank you so much for special Matrix setting you are awesome Man
Very very helpful. Thank You so much. I'm going to try it out on my QU24 this afternoon at a cover-band concert.... this will be fun.
Thx David. Hope your concert goes well!
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 It did go very well, and with your easy explaination, setting up the matrix for a 2nd row of speakers was super easy. Once we have found the perfect delay, (I see lots of playing with the mixer in my near future.. hehe), we will be using this system at most of the open-air events this year. So again thank you.
Glad to hear that. Setting Delay can be tricky but once set correctly you’ll wonder how you ever did without it LOL
Hi there.
I have the QU-SB & it does have a matrix out 1-2 but is only in TS output (no XLR) & there is no 3-4 output as well even though it’s visible on the app.
Is there a way to change the stereo mix outs to a matrix out with routing?
Please help…
Sorry but it’s the limitation of the SB hardware. Matrix3-4 is only available when using an expansion box like an AR2412 etc. 3-4 is not avaiable directly on the SB. There is no way to “reroute” the matrix to another physical output
Thank you Rob! Super helpful! Is it possible to route a specific mix to be recorded to a usb drive?
Thx Glad it was helpful. Yes you can choose the sources that you record on the Usb config Tab
The major challenge with this equipment is the ability to connect and assign the “Mix” outputs to about 6 (six) speakers connected to the back of QU-32 mixer.
Currently l was able to hear sound via the R/L - Main outputs but not via the Mix Output ports numbered #1 through #10.
I followed pages 39 and 40 of the instruction manual, still there was no sound outputs from the 6 (six) speakers connected to the mix outputs #1 through #10. I am sure that l am doing something wrong.
Does anyone has a CZcams Tutorial link on this subject matter or any other video tutorial on how to apportion multiple speakers to the 10 (ten) mix outputs ports of the QU-32?
Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.
Hi Bill great question. If you check out my video on "How and why to use pre or post fader" I do talk quite a bit about using the Mix outputs. If you give that go and still have questions, Id be happy to help
hi, i have the qupac. Is it possible to assign a matrix to 2 mixbuses, since the qupac does not have the physical outputs for the matrices?
Rob, I am new to this board and recording. Thank you for these videos! I need additional help and wondered if you would consider a phone support session to get me through some initial stumbling blocks?
great vid thanks
Thx Luke. Glad you found it helpful
Hi Rob, on a Qu-24, I need a mono output to feed a 2 speaker flown main cluster that was installed as a parallel setup with only one speaker wire going to foh mixer. I currently am panning everything L on all channels and panning main output L also. Would it be best to send LR to a matrix and then pan the matrix and then use the corresponding rear matrix output in this situation? Thanks
I would appreciate a tutorial on how to send sound to a separate mixer that will handle sound for a live stream. From the qu 32 to any other powdered mixer🙏🏽 thanks
Thx. great suggestion. unfortunately the QU series does not have a digital option for splitting inputs. if you really need to use another mixer then an analog splitter would be the option. you can however just use an aux/mix output dedicated to streaming and use an ipad to mix that output. that would be the easiest solution
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 right. Thanks Rob
OHHHH... The pre vs post fader threw me off. i was thinking it was "pre-individual-channel-faders" not "pre-master-fader". Our master fader needs to be way down as the front of house amp is turned as low as it will go. But I wanted the matrixes to be louder to send to the hard of hearing headsets and the livestream. I'm on teh SQ Series, but this should work. I'll try tonight.
Thank you again for yet another excellent video on the Qu series. I'm new to digital mixers and and the concept of using matrices. It's my understanding that among the many uses for a matrix there are creating separate mixes of channels for front fills and subwoofers. In other words, you may not need or want to include all the same sources (instruments) in the front fills or the subwoofers as you have in your master mix feeding your main left and right speakers. And this is apparently something that a matrix can do. I have the A&H Qu-16 which, as you mentioned, does not have the matrix feature though. Can you use the mix masters (Mix1-10) to accomplish the same thing? Any tips on doing that? Thanks.
Thx. Glad you found it helpful. To be clear you can only assign outputs to a matrix so there is no ability create a different mix using a matrix. That’s what an aux/mix is for - creating “separate mixes of channels”. Now if you decide you still want just an exact copy of an output (the intention of a matrix) then yes you can simulate it on a qu16. On the mix you choose set all faders to unity including the master. Then set all channels in that mix to postfader. That mix will now follow and be a copy of your LR. It’s as close as you can get to a matrix on a qu16
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Thanks, I’ll give that a try.
Just found your channel and loving it. I'm researching the qu series mixers and others, trying to decide what to upgrade to. I'm coming from a studiolive 16.4.2 first gen. I want a rack mixer and something that can be controlled wirelessly via tablet, but with faders for backup. Would you recommend the qu16 over others, for example the studiolive 16 series iii, or what would you recommend? Thanks in advance!
Thx. Glad you found it helpful. The. Qu16 is a great piece of gear however to be fair is more then 10yrs old now and AH have several newer offerings. If budget is a strong factor you can still get all the QU series used at very good prices. Of course the features of the SQ for instance might be the right investment. Have fun!
Can I output surround channels from daw via matrix for monitoring surround speakers in a 5.1 setup ?
I mean group channels(10 of them) instead of matrix
I have a question! Is there a way to make the mix master volume slave to the LR master volume?
We want to be able to lower the volume on all outputs with one control....
The closest you could get would be to set the mix to post-fader. Reducing any LR channel would then be reduced in that mix. Matrix (also set to postfade) are the only other way to have a second output that directly follows LR
Thank You Rob!
Question for you, Rob:
For our livestream, we use two scnes, one for our worship team, amd one for the pastor doing the preaching. Can I use the same Mix for both scenes, or is it "one mix, one scene?"
A scene is simply a snapshot of the configuration of the mixer at a particular moment. Theres no reason to use a diff mix just because you load a diff scene.
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 so if I switch a scene in our live FOH L/R, if I designate the Mix output correctly for use as our livestream output, will it change scenes along with the FOH scenes?
A scene is simply a snapshot of the ENTIRE mixer at that point. There are no FOH scenes or mix scenes.
nice
Hey Rob!
I had a weird question… i’m trying to see if there’s a way our church’s livestream could sound wider; giving the sense that the mix is stereo even though it’s technically mono. I had two thoughts - but one of the ideas would require more work.
I’m currently using Mix 5-6 for the livestream, and piping it to Matrix 1-2. I did it this way because, since I do not have an available separate mixer to EQ the channels, I decided that Matrix 1-2 would allow me to have some type of shaping by using PEQ and Compression. Since everything coming into the Matrix is technically a Mono signal, panning at the Channel level, only helps to choose where I would like to place the sound, not really give it any depth or spacial sound. Sooo…. Here are my thoughts..
Should I run Mix 5-6 to Matrix 1-2 AND 3-4, so that I can pan hard left and right? Then I would use Matrix 1 & 4 as my stereo mix for the livestream. OOOORRRR… the harder route..
Use Mix 5-6 & 7-8 then pan 5-6 Left, and 7-8 right. That way I can use Matrix 1-2 as a Stereo channel for my mix? I know this method would require a lot more work in balancing the audio, but it also might give me more depth and separation to create a wider sound…
I just wish Matrix 1-2 were two separate faders, and had the ability to hard pan 1 to Left and 2 to Right.
Hi there...some interesting ideas for sure. Both sound valid in concept its just a matter of finding out if you get "enough" of the result youre looking for based the work required (certainly with your second option). Here's the first thing I'd try... are you using ambient /room mics? Assuming that you are, I would start by changing their location to be as opposite as possible in your space. Put one close up front and one as far back as possible. If one is far right put the other far left. Then start playing with the mix of those two locations. You might be surprised. Next, reverse their locations. You might find the one closest to the drummer needs to be on the opposite side etc. Let me know
Thanks, Rob! There was a point that I was using a single shotgun mic towards the back of the room, but at the time I didn’t think about proper placement or distance. I’ll get two mics setup this time, and try different setups and see which one would yield the best results. Still in the trial and error stage, so I’ll see what happens.
Hey Rob! So I took your advice on setting up crowd mics, and what a difference it has made. It’s not exactly where I want it just yet, but it’s a start! Currently, I have Mix 5-6 going to Matrix 1-2. I did it this way so I could have a little more EQ control over the mix, since I don’t have much channel EQ control because I share the board with our in-house L-R Mix.
I then go from Matrix 1-2 to my Zoom F6, which connects to my iPad for Switcher Studio. I’m too far away from the board to use the USB out feature, so XLR works best at the moment. On the Zoom F6, I have one input panned hard left, and the other panned hard right (I’m thinking of changing this to 3/4 pans instead).
So…. here are my thoughts.. To get the directional and width I am looking for, it sounded like I may need to separate the vocals and instruments into two different mixes.
Soo, I’m going to try using Mix 7-8 for the purpose of width of sound, then use Mix 5-6 for more directional. Hoping this will help bring more separation and width.
Love it. Thx for the update!
Hey Rob! Your videos are soo helpful. I wanted to ask you if you have a tutorial video on how to leave a mic on in ears but not on the main L-R (House)
Thx Victor. No video for that specific item however its as easy as simply pulling down the fader for that mic in L/R. The mic shannel will have its own level set in the mix you’re using for the IEM
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thank you for replying! For some reason when I bring that fader down it loses all sound from IEMs. I’m using tracks as well and I’m trying to take the clock out of the mains L/R
If you mix level drops when change the LR channel fader then your Mix has been set to post fader. The mix needs to be prefader to be independent of LR changes. That one I do have a video for. Click Videos on my channel page for a full list
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 perfect! Thank you so much! I will double check for this video.
Hi Rob,
I am using the ALT OUT from the QU 16 to feed audio to our video camera at church. I am not able to get enough signal to make the audio loud enough. I am using 1/4 inch to XLR from the board to the video camera. Any idea why the signal is so low coming out of the alt out?
Thanks Jamie
The Alt can simply assigned any other output so the level should match the level of that assigned output. Go back and check that output
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Thanks Rob, I’ll check that again. The dial doesn’t do anything to increase the output either.
What do you have assigned to Alt
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 It says LR.
@@jamieremus277 It should say either LR pre-fade or LR post-fade
Can we customize what channels get to be copied to the matrix output? I want use matrix output for our live streaming but in addition would like to enable condenser mic. Is that possible or I can only do that using mix?
Only mix outputs can be assigned to a matrix and not individual channels. You could create a mix set to post fader then add the condenser to that mix and assign that mix to a matrix
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Thanks. Do you mind giving more details how I can do that? Sorry not an expert yet in audio mixing.
At the end of this video I explain how to set a mix postfade so it follows the main LR. I explain it using a qu16 because that unit does not have matrix and this method will simulate a matrix. czcams.com/video/XzeCInjOiEE/video.html
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Ahh - did not know you can multiple multiple mix to the same matrix! I will try this next time.
Good day Rob,
Can you jus tell me,does the Console have an option to use one output for ur sub outs,without have to Eq......
Maybe one thats comes with a Hpf option????
Low pass filter.......not Hpf
Sorry no. None of the qu series have a dedicated sub output. You can of course use any of the existing mix outputs and taylor it as you want to feed the subs.
Thank you alot Rob.
Do you have poscasts or classes?
Recently jus bought a Qu32 and im trying to learn as much,as quick as possible......
Thank you for the support
Only the videos posted here on my CZcams channel
Is it possible to use the matrixes as regular aux out if you run out of outputs
Great question. Yes and No, due to the differences. An Aux output is an independent layer where all of the channels can be mixed for a custom output. A Matrix is simply a copy of the assigned output. You do have some processing (eq etc) but there is no way to mix individual channels when using a matrix. That being said if all you want is a copy of an existing output as an “extra” output then go ahead and use a matrix.
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thanks for clearing that up.
thanks rob. I thought there was no delay in the matrix. I've never gone into processing. so can i control a subwoofer for example? but I don't think you can make a cardioid because I don't see phase reverse
I wouldn’t recommend a matrix for subwoofer since the matrix will be a full copy of the output you assign. Use a mix/Aux output so you can send only the appropriate input channels to the subwoofer
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thanks Rob. watching the video i saw that you used shelv to cut the low frequencies. can it work in your opinion? because unfortunately i noticed that you cannot use hpf on the qu32 outputs. this if I wanted to use the outputs of the qu32 without an external processor
Yes a shelf on the lowest freq should be very close to a hpf
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 thanks Rob I'll try. sorry again, but when we use the custom layer do you know if you can see the colors on the faders like in layer 1 or 2? blue for the effects and yellow for the channels? maybe there is a way in the setup?
Hi Rob i discovered that output from the Matrix isnt has good has the ones coming from the Mix outputs do you know why?
Hi Paul. The matrix is simply a duplicate copy of the assigned output but does allow for its own processing. Check to be sure that the processing you have assigned to the matrix is the same as the processing used on the output.
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Ok thanks
Rob you know in X32 you can separate the low from the main out but i know that qu24 doesnt so how do you manage that cos now i have to use a crossover to separate it. Can you help
All outputs have EQ and you could apply a HPF to remove low freq
Can you do a video on talkback channel please on a Q16. Thank you
Thx for the suggestion. I’ll add it to my list
Hi, Question do you know how to separate Mix 5-6, Mix 7-8, Mix 9-10 into single ones? Is there a way to do it? Thanks. Have blessed day.
Unfortunately there is technically no way to seperate the stereo mixes into mon channels. There is however a workaround. Using the PAN knob you can choose to push each channel within a mix to full left or full right. For instance, Select Mix5-6 then choose any channel that is part of the Mix. Setting the PAN to full left will make that channel appear in Mix5 only and pushing PAN to full right will make that channel appear in only Mix6. This as close as you will get using the QU series
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 Thank you so much for this information. Not tech geek just trying to do my best in our church. I'm going to mention that to person in charge of the mixer ( about the same knowledge ) what you told me. One last question if i end up doing what you said would it be possible to use the App on my phone to add the rest of the instruments? Right now we have the 2nd Guitar just hearing ourselves NO other instruments in our (personal ear monitor box). Can we add them? Sorry for all these question, just trying to understand the most i can. Once again Thank you. God Bless You
All input channels are available in all mixes so you should be able to add exactly what you need in any mix
Also which QU model are you using. The 24 and 32 have groups (not the16) which can be converted into additional mixes
Can I use the Matrix for Subs
Great question. Technically you *could* use a matrix for subs depending on what output(s) you route to that matrix. It would be a bit of a waste to route LR to a matrix for subs because you would need to EQ all of the signal out of that signal above what the subs are intended to handle. You would be better to route a dedicated Aux/Mix output to subs and only send the instrumentation that is best for subs (kick, bass gtr, low synth pads etc)
Yamaha DM3 or QU16 best for small band
Wow great question but with lots of variables to be considered. First the question is like asking Mac or PC…. Or Ford vs Chevy. Personally I’m and A&H guy and have been for many years. It where I’m comfortable and typically my first choice. Second there are lots of pros and cons for both of these boards, so it really depends on your needs, and how you like to work. Last, its almost not a fair question because we’re not really comparing apples to apples. The DM3 is brand new this year (or past year) while the QU16 is now more than 10yrs old. Technology changes fast in this business, however the QU is still a very capable piece of gear and I still use them regularly. Sorry I can’t give you a simple answer to this one. I suggest you rent them both and find out which works better for you. Have fun!
Matrix vs group/sub outs?
These are two diff and in fact opposite functions. A group/subgroup output allows you to group together several “inputs” eg. Channels etc. A Matrix allows you to combine outputs eg. Mix1 + Mix2 + Mix 4. The most common use for a matrix is simply a “copy” of an existing output such as LR
Hello Rob. Can I use matrix output for my live stream?
Yes you can use a matrix output to feed you live stream. However since a matrix is essentially a copy of another existing output, why not just use that output?
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 But a matrix, by your own description, can be a mix of mixes. A good use case for live streaming might be where you want to include the sounds of big ambient instruments, which you mightn't want fed back through the house speakers. A pipe organ or congregational voices in a church, for example. That might be what @bgnicolas was getting at with the condenser mic question. On our old ZED-428 we had such a condenser mic on its own group. Then we could dial up the gain as required and not risk feedback howl.
@@DavidPowellAU makes perfect sense
What about if you want to put PA subs/bass bins through a Matrix?
Can be done. However it depends on what output you feed to the matrix. If it’s LR then you still need some processing to eliminate the frequencies that are not for the subs. Some would prefer to feed the sub via an aux where you only send the inputs you want in the subs from the start rather than removing stuff after the fact
Could you please do a video showing how to do this please? Both via matrix and via Aux mix. How do you route it from an Aux mix to the subs?
@@dcgreen1987 Simply take the output jack for the aux mix and run that into the power amp that’s driving your subs
The subs are active, no power amp.
Well... no external one.
Hey, Im having a problem with the qu 32, is it possible i could contact you
What problem are you having?
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 i think its routing but not sure. Basically wireless shure mics where connected to two channels, suddenly yesterday to today started the Qu 32 and those two channels changed for some reason to PC L and PC R being both channels linked together
Sounds like you may recalled a scene that had those 2 channels setup differently. Are you able to simply change them back to your wireless mics
@@soundadvicewithrob3083 still a newbie in this, how could i do it?
Are you using an external stage box or is everything physically connected directly to the back of the mixer?
The plural of matrix is matrices, not matrix.
LOL you got me! And thx for playing. BTW drop me a link for your own channel...I'm always interested in what others are doing.
Disappointing. The MATRICES can't be split as a mono even though you have four physical outputs.
Right. The closest you can get is assign 2 outputs to the matrix and push one hard left and the other hard right. In theory you can then get 4 mono outs