Perhaps. No greater evil has come to that class of animals called, by a section of that class, 'humans'. Ever to be undone? Yet this adoration through music and voice is supreme, still. Not saying that that elitist; power and profit seeking technocratic class ARE evil - only that they have DONE immeasurable evil, some believing that they have done and are doing, good. They have no idea, except the most evil-following and weakest among them. They know exactly what they have done, and are doing. Bach. You are always here, along with others. God have mercy on us all, and thank you Bach and others who have created inspired beauty to nurture and heal the sorrowing heart and the soul.
well said. In fact we do have hope. I did not understand it so poignanty until the loss of a parent. This music attests to the Majesty of the Christ and the message that he came to earth as celebrated at Easter, declaring the pathway as the Eternal Hope and as God's own Son, that without sin was crucified, dead and buried and was raised on the third day. Giving rise to our Eternal Hope. It is a full account of the Love God has for this world and planet that he sent his only son to this world to suffer in our place - once and for all for the sins of man, knowing we could not reach into his presence or comprehend as this music so fully realises, and Bach understood. I also read recently by the history and listening to Ben Shapiro in a CZcams interview, that the Jewish people have not regarded that, and by commentators on the OT and NT scriptures - they are still as a people in judgement for it; and then of course for whatever is happening in the world today in terms of their corporate sins, as every country and people is also. The more we see the unecessary suffering in 2024 and that it is 2000 years after the fact, then I'm truly hoping we all grasp at that hope.
I think half of the views of this video are mine! This recording is in every way sublime! It is pure joy for me. I often find myself laughing with joy or moved to tears as I listen to this. There are so many moments that are exquisitely done. I love everything about his recording… too many things to mention. It is good for the soul!
I will like to discuss with you privately on music. My email address is musicingredient@gmail.com. I will be glad you write to my email so I can know your email address, thanks.
Je suis fier - et, malheureusement un peu triste - d'être le premier (?) francophone à témoigner de mon admiration pour cet enregistrement et pour la puissance du génie de Bach
Après une première écoute complète, je reviens régulièrement pour réécouter les 8 premières minutes qui me mettent les larmes aux yeux à chaque fois. Je partage votre avis sur la puissance de cet œuvre et des œuvres de Bach en général.
❤❤❤ magnifique Bach et magnifique Gardiner! Naturellement traduit en anglais!!!! Et pourquoi pas en français pour une fois!!! Je vais aller écouter cette passion selon St jean le 12 septembre dans le cadre du festival annuel de ma ville. Elle sera dirigée par Louis- Noel Bestion de Camboulas, jouée et chantée par son Ensemble Les Surprises. Je connais Simon-Pierre Bestion, son frère, et son ensemble La Tempête, qui est fabuleux et qui est venu 3 années de suite toujours pour le festival. Je me réjouis d’avance!
et un deuxiéme francophone pour dire combien Bach construit pour Dieu une forme d incarnation qui transfigure les sons en étoiles pour rois mages égarés que sont les croyants en recherche. Merci à Bach de nous ouvrirportes et fenêtres par cette magnifique, tranquille et dynamique à la fois, interprétation
J S Bach is one sinner man in Christ i would have liked to meet; Something in his work and I'm every time all in it. ❤ Oh how beautiful/blessd this production; God is so felt in this! Thanks, folks!
I was there for this wonderful 2008 Proms performance, including the pre-concert interview with Gardiner and Mark Padmore. It has been great to experience it all again, 14 years later. I don't understand the complaints about the tempo being too fast. And the soloists all performed with feeling and excellence, not least the Evangelist, Mark Padmore. Thank you for posting this.
Grand Merci, pour cette version très inspirée, à Mr Gardiner et tous ces magnifiques musiciens, ils sont vraiment les meilleurs ! Touchés pat la Grâce. Lumineuses Fêtes de Pâques à tous !
I love it all, but especially just that opening chorus--the words are triumphant, yet the music is dark and harrowing. St. John used spiritual paradoxes, e.g., the light shining in the darkness (i.e., normally, light can't shine IN the darkness without the darkness dissipating...hence John was declaring a spiritual mystery here). The theological statement I think Bach was making here in line with St. John, namely of Christ Crucified presented as simultaneously both Humiliated Victim and Exalted Victor....it just blows me away.
Your comment stood out, especially the "paradoxes" bit. I think you get the same thing as I do. But I don't think the opening words are triumphant in the least. I think they're despairing. A Passion which begins with the suspicion that, actually, everything is and was all for nothing, unless God shows us ("Zeig uns!") that it wasn't - now that's a paradox! If there's a triumph there, it's the triumph of faith, in spite of despair, that this _will_ be shown. In a performance of this incredible piece, of course, that faith is justified: because the re-performance of the Passion, after the opening chorus, and all the way to the close, will suffice. Outside that... not so much. Bach was about at the same time as a lot of revolutionary thought: Pascal, Leibniz, Malebranche, Descartes. Should God have to empirically demonstrate himself - again - for the world not to collapse? Bach grasped St John's messianism perfectly in this music. This is why I love the opening chorus: it's on the edge of the exactly the paradox you point out.
That Light shinning in the dark is the suffering submitted human Substitute who by surrendering gain total victory over sin and death. Bach understood it so clearly. Inspired music ❤️
@@sebthirlway1634 Interesting. What in the words of the opening chorus suggest to you that it is not triumphant, that the words are not a declaration of the Lordship of Jesus Christ that He shows precisely as He hangs in death on the Tree? But perhaps I missed it? Now, of course, only through faith in what St. Paul called the Word of the Cross (1 Cor 1:18) is this seen and believed, tied in to what Luther called the "Theology of the Cross". And Bach was an orthodox Lutheran. But I can't locate anything in the words of the opening chorus that suggest otherwise? The music on the other hand, yes, that suggests a dark tragedy, no doubt. In other words, if we go by our senses, it appears to be nothing but a defeat. But if we go by faith in the Word of God, the Word of the Cross as St. Paul coined it, then do we see it for the triumph that it is--that by His death He slew death.
@@stephenweiss6001 Good question! The answer, which I didn't write (or know) clearly before, is: sure, the words are words of faith. But if everyone really had this faith, there'd be no problem. No-one would bother to speak, sing (or perhaps even write) these words: there'd be no need. It's the act of singing these words which is a testament to despair: words _asking for_ or _hoping for_ faith, rather than simply reporting faith ("Hey, I believe. Life's good! What shall we do tonight?"). The darkness is our darkness as much as Christ's. And the solution applies to, and works on both. I really liked your original comment because it hinted at this "spiritual mystery". A very deep, clever piece of music!
I have shivers and chills listening and reading the text and the sublime voices and feeling the suffering of Jesus . Thank you for sharing with us this marvellous recording🙏
I attended a performance of this this evening at my university by English Touring Opera, my university chamber choir, Steel city chamber choir, and a childrens choir. Absolutely brilliant. Everyone performed flawlessly. Loved the cello and archlute.
What a magnificent assimilation of talent. Every performer--choir, soloist and orchestra is a sublime artist; and, of course, the conductor who has memorized every note! Never heard such a superb performance of the St. John Passion. It's Holy Thursday today. Thank you so much for this interpretation of Bach's great masterpiece.
Bach is Bach, toujours jeune l'ancêtre ! très bonne mouture, très soluble ... qui pourrait de nos jours créer un tel immense lot de chefs d'oeuvre... zat is ze couestionne !
Absolutely beautiful coming from the soul. Stirs my heart to bow before our living loving God. Grips the heart. (Just a little weird at times to see a head earily lit up in the background. lol. )
This is all about the music and drama in equal measure with JEG coaxing the best from everyone for Bach's pure statement. The sheer terror is already in the music and the job of the musicians is to let it all flow. The result is a truly great St John Passion still unsurpassed since it was performed in 2008. Timeless.
A wonderful performance, so expressively conducted and so beautifully sung and played. And thank you for the subtitles! Since someone thought the tempos were too fast, out of curiosity I checked three others (Van Veldhoven, Harnoncourt, and Bernius) all of which turned out to be a couple of minutes faster. The writer may be used to the pre-HIP tempos of Richter and others.
Non sono più credente...però mi piacerebbe moltissimo che al mio funerale, le mie orecchie morte, potessero ascoltare questo oratorio, forse allora ritornerei a ricredere.
magestuosas obras de J.S.BACH,Johannes Passion en su mejor vercion ha mi consideracion bajo la batuta del gran director Eliot Gardiner,gracias por tocar mi espiritu y elevarme al infinito,gracias Dios Santo
Very few 300-year old things are as powerful as music - Art from 300 years ago, to be sure, is much appreciated, yet requires interpretation to fully understand - Read 300-year old literature and it's difficult without a bunch of footnotes - And then there's Bach! - His genius is alive and well.
What else would you expect of music Shi Fu Music Master? Besides, he tired long ago of directing in a close fitting formal Western costume-- have you seen how tight a tuxedo can grip an Elder throat? Try conducting for almost three hours in that without passing out!
I very much regret that today the alto parts are usually no longer entrusted to a female alto voice. Male contraltos have never convinced me, even if they have famous names.
Date of posting is up there right after the number of views [as of this writing 129,810 views; Mar 11, 2020 ]. I cannot tell you the date of the actual performance, but is it that important? A few searches on google should give you a list of live performances of this work by this particular group of performers.
The work of Bach, a sometimes incredible genius, should not be marred by the hopelessly religious content. He could not help this, as artists went where the money was.
Paul Taylor, so far as have not seen any instruments here that match your description. I assume by "viola" you mean a slightly larger version of a violin. If you meant some other instrument, then I don't know how to help you, except in an ensemble such as this there might be 'viola da gamba' instruments which resemble a cello, but with more strings hence more pegs, and I think there is also a theorbo in there, but that does not resemble a viola.
@@paultaylor6821 , well, I missed those due to their brief appearance. Here is how one finds out these things (besides writing a CZcams comment with hopes that somebody else bothers to do your research for you). You go to Wikipedia, or Google, or any of the numerous easily accessed online references on Bach's music, and look up "St John Passion". Under the "instrumentation" section, you read that along with other strings and winds, Bach scored this piece to include two "viola d'amore" and lute (which I had assumed was a theorbo based on a quick glance from a funny angle in the video). Then you Google or Wikipedia "viola d'amore" and ta-da!
Eine unglaublich dramatische Interpretation man möchte beinahe von einer Oper sprechen. And wie immer das tiefe Verständnis für Bachs' Werk von diesem begnadeten Dirigenten, Herr Gardiner.
The music and performance- sublime- Bravo to all the performers. The text- hateful, spiteful and incredibly historically incorrect. It sounds like revisionist propaganda. No wonder there are so few performances of this work. Such a shame that Bach will forever be linked to the rabidly hateful rantings of Luther.
queenandi, my, you must have heard only some very stellar performances. Seriously, the whole "worst I ever heard" criticism is about the lamest type know to man. It is used mostly by people with inferior opinions trying to elevate them without expending any effort to actually make a case.
Matthew Brooks: awful ; the tenor: horrible; the counter tenor: squeaking; the director in a ridicolous pijama: the worst of them all, shallow and too fast. In this interprteation any deepness and drama are lost. A cafè chantant performance.
Bach is Bach, toujours jeune l'ancêtre ! très bonne mouture, très soluble ... qui pourrait de nos jours créer un tel immense lot de chefs d'oeuvre... zat is ze couestionne !
Time Stamps for movements
Part 1
1. Chorus- 00:00:00
2. Recitative (John 18, 1-8)- 08:21
3. Chorale- 10:59
4. Recitative (John 18, 9-11)- 11:46
5. Chorale- 12:55
6. Recitative (John 18, 12-14)- 13:46
7. Aria (Counter-Tenor)- 14:33
8. Recitative (John 18, 15)- 18:44
9. Aria (Soprano)- 18:58
10. Recitative (John 18, 15-23)- 22:20
11. Chorale- 25:30
12. Recitative (John 18, 24-28)- 27:22
13. Aria (Tenor)- 29:38
14. Chorale- 32:04
Part 2
15. Chorale- 35:24
16. Recitative (John 18, 28-30)- 36:33
-STRUCTURAL PALINDROME
17. Chorale- 40:45
18. Recitative (John 18, 37-40), (John 19, 1)- 42:11
19. Arioso (Bass)- 44:56
20. Aria (Tenor)- 47:30
21. Recitative (John 19, 2-12)- 56:38
22. Central Chorale- 01:02:47
23. Recitative (John 19, 12-17)- 01:03:40
24. Aria (Bass)- 01:07:43
25. Recitative (19, 18-22)- 01:11:45
26. Chorale- 01:14:03
-END OF PALINDROME
27. Recitative (John 19, 23-27)- 01:15:02
28. Chorale- 01:18:47
29. Recitative (John 19, 28-30)- 01:19:54
30. Aria (Counter-Tenor)- 01:21:26
31. Recitative (John 19, 30)- 01:26:27- Death of Jesus
32. Aria (Bass)- with Chorale placed over- 01:27:12
33. Recitative (From Gospel of Matthew)- 01:31:18
34. Arioso (Tenor)- 01:31:45
35. Final Aria (Soprano)- 01:32:40
36. Recitative (John 19, 31-37)- 01:39:29
37. Chorale- 01:41:38
38. Final Recitative (John 19, 38-42)- 01:42:59
39. Final Chorus- 01:45:07
40. Final Chorale- 01:52:08
When I feel all hope is lost for humanity this piece makes me think we might have a chance.
Perhaps. No greater evil has come to that class of animals called, by a section of that class, 'humans'. Ever to be undone? Yet this adoration through music and voice is supreme, still. Not saying that that elitist; power and profit seeking technocratic class ARE evil - only that they have DONE immeasurable evil, some believing that they have done and are doing, good. They have no idea, except the most evil-following and weakest among them. They know exactly what they have done, and are doing. Bach. You are always here, along with others. God have mercy on us all, and thank you Bach and others who have created inspired beauty to nurture and heal the sorrowing heart and the soul.
Jesus is our Hope, without Christ and his church, there is no hope
Me too, chiers!
well said. In fact we do have hope. I did not understand it so poignanty until the loss of a parent. This music attests to the Majesty of the Christ and the message that he came to earth as celebrated at Easter, declaring the pathway as the Eternal Hope and as God's own Son, that without sin was crucified, dead and buried and was raised on the third day. Giving rise to our Eternal Hope. It is a full account of the Love God has for this world and planet that he sent his only son to this world to suffer in our place - once and for all for the sins of man, knowing we could not reach into his presence or comprehend as this music so fully realises, and Bach understood. I also read recently by the history and listening to Ben Shapiro in a CZcams interview, that the Jewish people have not regarded that, and by commentators on the OT and NT scriptures - they are still as a people in judgement for it; and then of course for whatever is happening in the world today in terms of their corporate sins, as every country and people is also. The more we see the unecessary suffering in 2024 and that it is 2000 years after the fact, then I'm truly hoping we all grasp at that hope.
Gardiner never disappoints, to understate the matter. Utterly superb. And his singers speak an excellent German.
I think half of the views of this video are mine! This recording is in every way sublime! It is pure joy for me. I often find myself laughing with joy or moved to tears as I listen to this. There are so many moments that are exquisitely done. I love everything about his recording… too many things to mention. It is good for the soul!
I listen to this every year around Easter time. Sublime.
I will like to discuss with you privately on music. My email address is musicingredient@gmail.com. I will be glad you write to my email so I can know your email address, thanks.
First time for me, and I am loving it. Could do with the words though, in German and English would be perfect. Thanks!
I love the way Gardiner dances in the air with his arms and hands... Sorry for my bad english....
There'll be one view of me now. We are two. 😉😂
Je suis fier - et, malheureusement un peu triste - d'être le premier (?) francophone à témoigner de mon admiration pour cet enregistrement et pour la puissance du génie de Bach
Après une première écoute complète, je reviens régulièrement pour réécouter les 8 premières minutes qui me mettent les larmes aux yeux à chaque fois. Je partage votre avis sur la puissance de cet œuvre et des œuvres de Bach en général.
E io il primo italofono.
Si vous êtes le premier, je peux vous rassurer sur le fait que vous n'êtes pas le dernier !
❤❤❤ magnifique Bach et magnifique Gardiner! Naturellement traduit en anglais!!!! Et pourquoi pas en français pour une fois!!! Je vais aller écouter cette passion selon St jean le 12 septembre dans le cadre du festival annuel de ma ville. Elle sera dirigée par Louis- Noel Bestion de Camboulas, jouée et chantée par son Ensemble Les Surprises. Je connais Simon-Pierre Bestion, son frère, et son ensemble La Tempête, qui est fabuleux et qui est venu 3 années de suite toujours pour le festival. Je me réjouis d’avance!
et un deuxiéme francophone pour dire combien Bach construit pour Dieu une forme d incarnation qui transfigure les sons en étoiles pour rois mages égarés que sont les croyants en recherche. Merci à Bach de nous ouvrirportes et fenêtres par cette magnifique, tranquille et dynamique à la fois, interprétation
Bach m a donné dieu lorsque j avais huit ans Bach c est la ferveur Merci pour cette magistrale interpretation
J S Bach is one sinner man in Christ i would have liked to meet;
Something in his work and I'm every time all in it. ❤ Oh how beautiful/blessd this production; God is so felt in this! Thanks, folks!
That introduction! For me, that is the Holy Spirit hovering over the creation, then hovering over Mary. Bach…one of the evidences that God exists!
Maestro Gardiner-praechtig! Neben dem Gardiner gibt es keine Gleiche. Absolut Perfektion! Frohe Ostern alle!
I was there for this wonderful 2008 Proms performance, including the pre-concert interview with Gardiner and Mark Padmore. It has been great to experience it all again, 14 years later. I don't understand the complaints about the tempo being too fast. And the soloists all performed with feeling and excellence, not least the Evangelist, Mark Padmore. Thank you for posting this.
Some ppl are just dumb.. dont mind it
❤
Everyone wonderful, the Evangelist super-wonderful.
Grand Merci, pour cette version très inspirée, à Mr Gardiner et tous ces magnifiques musiciens, ils sont vraiment les meilleurs !
Touchés pat la Grâce.
Lumineuses Fêtes de Pâques à tous !
I love it all, but especially just that opening chorus--the words are triumphant, yet the music is dark and harrowing. St. John used spiritual paradoxes, e.g., the light shining in the darkness (i.e., normally, light can't shine IN the darkness without the darkness dissipating...hence John was declaring a spiritual mystery here). The theological statement I think Bach was making here in line with St. John, namely of Christ Crucified presented as simultaneously both Humiliated Victim and Exalted Victor....it just blows me away.
Your comment stood out, especially the "paradoxes" bit. I think you get the same thing as I do. But I don't think the opening words are triumphant in the least. I think they're despairing. A Passion which begins with the suspicion that, actually, everything is and was all for nothing, unless God shows us ("Zeig uns!") that it wasn't - now that's a paradox! If there's a triumph there, it's the triumph of faith, in spite of despair, that this _will_ be shown. In a performance of this incredible piece, of course, that faith is justified: because the re-performance of the Passion, after the opening chorus, and all the way to the close, will suffice. Outside that... not so much.
Bach was about at the same time as a lot of revolutionary thought: Pascal, Leibniz, Malebranche, Descartes. Should God have to empirically demonstrate himself - again - for the world not to collapse? Bach grasped St John's messianism perfectly in this music.
This is why I love the opening chorus: it's on the edge of the exactly the paradox you point out.
That Light shinning in the dark is the suffering submitted human Substitute who by surrendering gain total victory over sin and death. Bach understood it so clearly. Inspired music ❤️
@@sebthirlway1634 Interesting. What in the words of the opening chorus suggest to you that it is not triumphant, that the words are not a declaration of the Lordship of Jesus Christ that He shows precisely as He hangs in death on the Tree? But perhaps I missed it? Now, of course, only through faith in what St. Paul called the Word of the Cross (1 Cor 1:18) is this seen and believed, tied in to what Luther called the "Theology of the Cross". And Bach was an orthodox Lutheran. But I can't locate anything in the words of the opening chorus that suggest otherwise? The music on the other hand, yes, that suggests a dark tragedy, no doubt. In other words, if we go by our senses, it appears to be nothing but a defeat. But if we go by faith in the Word of God, the Word of the Cross as St. Paul coined it, then do we see it for the triumph that it is--that by His death He slew death.
@@stephenweiss6001 Good question! The answer, which I didn't write (or know) clearly before, is: sure, the words are words of faith. But if everyone really had this faith, there'd be no problem. No-one would bother to speak, sing (or perhaps even write) these words: there'd be no need. It's the act of singing these words which is a testament to despair: words _asking for_ or _hoping for_ faith, rather than simply reporting faith ("Hey, I believe. Life's good! What shall we do tonight?"). The darkness is our darkness as much as Christ's. And the solution applies to, and works on both. I really liked your original comment because it hinted at this "spiritual mystery". A very deep, clever piece of music!
I have shivers and chills listening and reading the text and the sublime voices
and feeling the suffering of Jesus .
Thank you for sharing with us this marvellous recording🙏
Proof that JSB was a genius
he wasn't human
Applaudo all’evangelista!
La protagonista del questo brano è lui che contiene una a cantare!
JS Bach - The first writer of film scores - Ahead of his time - as always.
thanks for your share of this interpretation by maestro Gardiner
I attended a performance of this this evening at my university by English Touring Opera, my university chamber choir, Steel city chamber choir, and a childrens choir. Absolutely brilliant. Everyone performed flawlessly. Loved the cello and archlute.
What a magnificent assimilation of talent. Every performer--choir, soloist and orchestra is a sublime artist; and, of course, the conductor who has memorized every note! Never heard such a superb performance of the St. John Passion. It's Holy Thursday today. Thank you so much for this interpretation of Bach's great masterpiece.
Sublime cette musique !
The Agony and the Ecstasy : - if you didn't feel it you never even heard it.
Bach is Bach, toujours jeune l'ancêtre ! très bonne mouture, très soluble ... qui pourrait de nos jours créer un tel immense lot de chefs d'oeuvre... zat is ze couestionne !
Bach, veículo da Luz, transporte da Paz, vislumbre, revelação sonora da Compaixão e Beleza Infinitas. Bach, o Mensageiro.
Magistral obra e apresentação!👏🏽👏🏾👏🏽👏🏾🙏🏾
45:00 'betrachte meine Seel' is so good presented👍😄
Eine wunderbare Ausfuerung! J. E. Gardiner - mein Lieblingsdirigent!
Absolutely beautiful coming from the soul. Stirs my heart to bow before our living loving God. Grips the heart. (Just a little weird at times to see a head earily lit up in the background. lol. )
This is all about the music and drama in equal measure with JEG coaxing the best from everyone for Bach's pure statement.
The sheer terror is already in the music and the job of the musicians is to let it all flow. The result is a truly great St John Passion still unsurpassed since it was performed in 2008.
Timeless.
Sublime !!!!!!
Finally a performance which isn't slow as molasses to open.
Indeed 😁
E conmovente fantastico la Interpretatione!!!!!!!
Sublime.
1:07 maravilhosa interpretação!!!!
A wonderful performance, so expressively conducted and so beautifully sung and played. And thank you for the subtitles! Since someone thought the tempos were too fast, out of curiosity I checked three others (Van Veldhoven, Harnoncourt, and Bernius) all of which turned out to be a couple of minutes faster. The writer may be used to the pre-HIP tempos of Richter and others.
Non sono più credente...però mi piacerebbe moltissimo che al mio funerale, le mie orecchie morte, potessero ascoltare questo oratorio, forse allora ritornerei a ricredere.
Perfect speed👍
00:33:20 Genialne - strojenie orkiestry w trakcie utworu, kosmiczna muzyka ❤
Fabuloso! Me encanta... ¡Gracias! a todos estos músicos y a su director.
Beautiful
Wonderful !
magestuosas obras de J.S.BACH,Johannes Passion en su mejor vercion ha mi consideracion bajo la batuta del gran director Eliot Gardiner,gracias por tocar mi espiritu y elevarme al infinito,gracias Dios Santo
"It is good for the soul" [Gordon Carter]
Heavenly performance!!!
I clapped along in the end...
It's an awesome performance!!! Thank you for posting!
Very few 300-year old things are as powerful as music - Art from 300 years ago, to be sure, is much appreciated, yet requires interpretation to fully understand - Read 300-year old literature and it's difficult without a bunch of footnotes - And then there's Bach! - His genius is alive and well.
Superb performance - well done to everyone
3:44 DOPE!!
Yes...
Demasiado Potente. 🔥
Nice interprétation !
The intro perfect for any dark souls game!
The Miraculous Mandarin conducts Bach! Bartok would have approved.
Me maravilla Gardiner con esta majestuosidad, pero prefiero una mujer como soprano...tiene otro volumen, mas profundo
At the moment I started to play I had to check my playback speed setting 😂🤣 What a surprise!
whats with JEG's kung fu robe?
What else would you expect of music Shi Fu Music Master? Besides, he tired long ago of directing in a close fitting formal Western costume-- have you seen how tight a tuxedo can grip an Elder throat? Try conducting for almost three hours in that without passing out!
Where is Erwäge, wie sein blutgefärbter Rücken?
I very much regret that today the alto parts are usually no longer entrusted to a female alto voice. Male contraltos have never convinced me, even if they have famous names.
Yeah, kinda with you on that.
1:27:00 that's a very unfortunate moment to start coughing...
720P what a shame
anyone know which year this was performed
The _"Es ist vollbracht!"_ is a bit weak, unfortunately. It is one of the most beautiful passages in the passion.
Halber Ton tiefer als meine Noten
Kammerton zu Bachs Zeit, wahrscheinlich.
@@Claude_van Dankeschön
What happened to the sound? So muted....too bad.
I wish the date was indicated when this was performed. Even the date of posting is missing.
Date of posting is up there right after the number of views [as of this writing 129,810 views; Mar 11, 2020 ]. I cannot tell you the date of the actual performance, but is it that important? A few searches on google should give you a list of live performances of this work by this particular group of performers.
@@madaboutvoice That inner historian in me got curious that's all.
2008 Proms, according to Sven Sonderlund's comment.
I agree that the dates of performances should be stated.
oops, Sven Soderlund (apologies for misspelling)
The work of Bach, a sometimes incredible genius, should not be marred by the hopelessly religious content. He could not help this, as artists went where the money was.
What are the viola like instruments with many pegs?
Paul Taylor, so far as have not seen any instruments here that match your description. I assume by "viola" you mean a slightly larger version of a violin. If you meant some other instrument, then I don't know how to help you, except in an ensemble such as this there might be 'viola da gamba' instruments which resemble a cello, but with more strings hence more pegs, and I think there is also a theorbo in there, but that does not resemble a viola.
Check out 53.30 here they are clearly shown. Played like a viola or violin but with at least six pegs.
And 50.00
@@paultaylor6821 , well, I missed those due to their brief appearance.
Here is how one finds out these things (besides writing a CZcams comment with hopes that somebody else bothers to do your research for you). You go to Wikipedia, or Google, or any of the numerous easily accessed online references on Bach's music, and look up "St John Passion". Under the "instrumentation" section, you read that along with other strings and winds, Bach scored this piece to include two "viola d'amore" and lute (which I had assumed was a theorbo based on a quick glance from a funny angle in the video). Then you Google or Wikipedia "viola d'amore" and ta-da!
Thanks. Very interesting.
Voglio assolutamente il numero di telefono dell'evangelista!
I do want the Evangelist's phone number!
Eine unglaublich dramatische
Interpretation man möchte beinahe von einer Oper sprechen. And wie immer das
tiefe Verständnis für Bachs' Werk von diesem begnadeten Dirigenten, Herr Gardiner.
Is this the full version or has it been abridged? It seems rather short - most performances I have been to are just short of 3 hours.
You might be thinking of st Matthews Passion?
Maybe this version too fast?.... please compare with this one:
czcams.com/video/zMf9XDQBAaI/video.html
Much more intimate, clear and personal to me.
Can someone tell me what is the instrument that the man with the ponytail playing?
Think they are different kind of baroque style oboes.
Lute
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oboe_da_caccia
What is the name of the choir?
Monteverdi Choir. It is in the description
What's the rush?
it's church hours
Rushed
Prefer the version done by the Netherlands Bach Society.
You can not replace the BOYS chorals with women. It does not work!
"Maestro" confused a passion aria with a gavotte
L⁸ 😅😅😅😅😅lk?😊8😊
Too fast for my taste. Are you late for a train? I want to relish the chocolate, not gobble it down whole.
Richter radical detected
Bach was a fast thinker and worker.👍🏿
Too fast to my taste.
Philosophia Entis.....nobody.....cares
There will be a slower one along in a minute.
The music and performance- sublime- Bravo to all the performers. The text- hateful, spiteful and incredibly historically incorrect. It sounds like revisionist propaganda. No wonder there are so few performances of this work. Such a shame that Bach will forever be linked to the rabidly hateful rantings of Luther.
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Thank God they play this so fast because it is one of the worst performances of the Johannes Passion I ever heard.
queenandi, my, you must have heard only some very stellar performances. Seriously, the whole "worst I ever heard" criticism is about the lamest type know to man. It is used mostly by people with inferior opinions trying to elevate them without expending any effort to actually make a case.
@@youtuuba Thank you that you, highseated on your horse, came down to earth to reply and lower yourself to my level. If I ever would give a shit!!!
You obviously know NOTHING .
Matthew Brooks: awful ; the tenor: horrible; the counter tenor: squeaking; the director in a ridicolous pijama: the worst of them all, shallow and too fast. In this interprteation any deepness and drama are lost. A cafè chantant performance.
I didn't realise we had a musical genius among us!
@@TrionSixteenisawsum you say "pijama," I say "pajama." Well, it's a Prom performance. Inherently not the most propitious venue for this work.
Here she goes again, that old bigot snd chief wind up merchant with a negligible knowledge of Bach, in other words if its not richter forget it.
@@waynewilliams4706 I know right? Some people think their beliefs are absolute....
If I were Gardiner I would have taken out a restraining order against Annam by now...
Bach is Bach, toujours jeune l'ancêtre ! très bonne mouture, très soluble ... qui pourrait de nos jours créer un tel immense lot de chefs d'oeuvre... zat is ze couestionne !