What were the Differences Between the Templars, Hospitallers, and Teutonic Knights?
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Let's discuss the Templars, Hospitallers, and the Teutonic Knights. How were they different? How were they similar? A podcast discussion of the major military orders of the Crusades.
5:48 - Teutonic Knights are also famous for their bonus against buildings and being nearly invincible against other infantry.
4ndr3c3s4r1n0 Slow troops but very effective against all troops
May charge without orders
Good morale
Powerful charge
What a genius. 😂
Not the longbows 😉
**Nearly invencible**, yes qute the polish-lithuanian commenwealth twice defeated the teutonic knights, hilter had the famous monument at grundwald- removed for even mentioning the defeat**...
One order which always fascinated me upon learning about it was the Knights of Saint Lazarus. They were made up of those infected with leprosy, having devoted their now shortened lives to protecting pilgrims in the holy land. Really cool considering they themselves would become a living bio weapon against their foes, as is imagine any would be apprehensive to fight them for fear of contracting their condition. You've slain me have you? Well let me just COUGH ALL OVER YOUR FACE. Think they were slain to a man in the siege of Jerusalem.
Plus, they make me think of good-guy plague marines from warhammer 40k.
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also they under the eastern church not the church of rome.
Differences: Hospitallers run hospitals, Templars guard the temple, Teutonic knights are teutonic.
Similarities: They guard pilgrims, fight muslims, and defend the holy land.
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The Hospitallers original legacy continues today. While not affiliated with the church now, the St John Ambulance which exists in several countries carries on the original role of tending the sick and still uses the white cross on black background as its symbol.
Isn't the queen a patron saint to the isreali hospitelliars ?
I did read something years ago, but cannot find it again.
Also ' Order of Assassins' what time frame do they fit in here ?
@Eye Ball are you not confusing the knights of Malta with st John's ambulance?
They're no longer affiliated with the Church? How can an order separate fro. The Church? Through schism? Or are they protestants? Like the Jesuits deciding to become prorestant as an entire order and separate from the Church?
@@nenabunena they didn't. The knights hospillar still exists just not as a military order and technically they still have the pope as their head.
@@zorlockthewarlock5961 The Order of Assassins did exist. The word "assassin" is actually derived from their name, Asāsiyyūn. The members of the order followed the Shia faith.
The hospitallers still exist to this day and obviously st. john's ambulance and hospital's are their legacy.
Isn't the queen a patron saint to the Israeli hospitelliars ?
Same with the Templars to some degree
ashleigh woytuik also St Vincent & Saint Joseph’s
But in Malaysia, they changed the symbols to crescent
The Hospitallers broke after Napoleon defeated them. The Russian Tsar welcomed them, and Protestant spin offs like the St. John Ambulance Corps were developed. The original Catholic order still exists in Malta today and their Grand Master holds the equivalent rank as the most junior Cardinal and marches directly behind the lowest Cardinal in all state events for the Roman Catholic Church. Although their rank is that of the most junior Cardinal, the Grand Master does not participate in any conclaves to elect the Pope.
Hospitallers in my eyes were the original “ Christian Crusaders “ all around the Baltic and Mediterranean territories started off from that mission . It’s all so fascinating
There were actually five major catholic military orders, you left out the most important, the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre which were first with the Hospitallers, then the Knights of Saint Lazarus. The origins of the Order of Knights are clouded by conflicting traditional tales, and subject to some historical controversy, but it is rather well established that its beginnings as a true Order came after Godfrey of Bouillon captured Jerusalem in 1099, during the First Crusade.There are also those who trace the Order back another six centuries to the time of St. Helena when, in 451, the Bishopric of Jerusalem was made a Patriarchate. Others believe the Knights originated in the year 81 when Pope Anaclet is said to have assigned protection of the Tomb to a confraternity of hermits. In any case, the Order was, in the words of the eminent scholar, Guido A. Quarti, “…the cradle from which all other religious military Orders in the Holy Land developed…”
The order of St.Sepulcher is now totally integrated into the Catholic Church, the Pope makes dubs the knights, and is basically an honorific title.
I am a Knight of the Holy Sepulchre and we have always been a part of the Catholic church, I can tell you it is not an "basically" honorific title. We are all military.
@@jakeking222If you don't mind me asking, what do you do in your role as a Knight of the Holy Sepulchre? What exactly are the military links today?
@@arx3516 aren't these orders all Catholics? So why aren't they supposed to be Catholics now?
Jacob King there is nothing military now about the Knights of the Holy Sepulchre (the proper name is “The Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem”). We are Catholic, founded in 1099, and we support Christians in the Holy Land and pray for them. There are 4 ranks, but beyond that there is nothing “military” about the Order.
The Hospitallers were originally the Order of St. John of Jerusalem, Est. 900's. They were funded by Italian merchants, their cross was from Amalfi in Italy. They did provide medical services but also ran hostels in Jerusalem for pilgrims.
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interesting post!
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Great show...One of my relatives is in the Knights of Malta (Hospitallers) so I really enjoyed this...
I have many relatives in the order of st John . IT IS THOUGHT. That one of my distant ancestor maybe more was weapons master smith for the Teutonic order in its early times.
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I read an old proverb concerning the knight orders of jerusalem: "To drink like a Templar, brawl like the germans (Teutonics) and dissolute like the hospital!"
You can find an explanation by knowing that the templars were maily French (wine ^^) and templars Italians (Berliusconi's ancestor ^^)
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@@maximef4036 is rural france still epic and based?
@@rhodesianwojak2095 rural France is (and has always been) like Astérix village : as soon as you are adopted by the community, you belong to "les copains" (buddies). You will not let them down, whatever it takes.
Sometimes, one of our leader consider France as an entire village. From there come greatness : Napoléon, De Gaulle...
But most of the time, the French themselves struggle to consider themselves as a whole country, this is why we tend to vote for présidents which swear everything for the village (privileges...) but nothing for the country. Or even worse, présidents who are disgusted by the village concept, like the current one, and who would like to be at anglo-saxons' clock.
All of that applies in général, most of the time. Of course there are some exceptions. If it still seems unclear to you, the answer is no. Untill one emerge from the crowd and carry an universal ideal which could unite us all, a Providential man (this means a lot in our History). We would then be ready to die for him if it was still useful in the XXIst century ;)
Glad to see the channel is growing dude been subbed for a couple years I love that there's so much crusades content you can catch us up on keep up the good work
I want to learn more about the Order of St. Thomas of Canterbury at Acre. That would be a cool podcast :)
I read in the book Kights of Christ that they submitted 7 knights including their grtandmaster to the Crusades and they were all killed. They wore a red cross on a black background similar to others mentioned.
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Thank you so much for this informative and educational history on the Templars. I iust recently got into this part of the history and i found other documentaries are so difficult to understand. Yours explains everything so well and in a more simple and straight forward approach! Truly appreciated!
I find the naval prowess that the Hospitallers would come into later on very interesting as well.
Thank you for the channel.
thank you for watching
@@RealCrusadesHistory Did the Jews fight during the Crusades. I've always wondered did Jews fight along side the Christians in the Crusades. Were the Jews involved in the Crusades.
@@RealCrusadesHistory Скажи мне Пожалуйста а Крестовый Поход на Центральную Азию Было не Знаете а
Templars and hospitalers came to be known as “soldier monks”
Good point that you mention the Templars in the Iberian peninsula (Spain). People sometimes forget that the Knights were there also.
Louis Quatorze Valencia was an important port for the Templars, if I remember correctly.
the templars were french wdym
Can you please provide a video showing the difference in their uniform between each faction? Thank you.
It's really easy to differentiate them:
Templar = white clothes, white cloak, red cross
Hospitaller = black clothes, black cloak, white cross
Teutonic = white clothes, white cloak, black cross
@@rumuelnathanael8043 there was variation betweent the ranks with in the orders with their uniform. They had to be wealthy to be knights as the armour was extremely expensive for the knight and horse . They had to be able to supple two horses and care and support a squire who became an associate member and so on.
I'd like to ask you if it is at all possible to do something about Scottish participation in the Crusades. I have seen crusader tombs in the Hebrides and I have read something of the presence of Templar knights and Hospitalers in Scotland. I think the ones who had the longest presence were the Hospitalers. But I've found it exceedingly difficult to find information. Most information is about England but in this time Scotland was an independent Kingdom. The other thing that is notable is the existence of heraldic symbols in some of the Scottish coats of arms that signal to participation in the crusades like the ships that I've read are a signal that ships were donated for the crusades. But the information I've found is scarce and confusing. Would really appreciate if you could do something on this.
sealthrob that grave was an Englishman.
Templar fled to Scotland after they were deemed heretics because Robert the Bruce was excommunicated by the Pope so they were safe there. It is sead they fought for Robert in the final battle that won Scotland their indipendace. Note Scotland was an English vasl up to then.
Can you make a video about how espionage networks were used during the crusades, and especially by the Knights Templar, if there's any historical account of that ?
The hospitallers still exist in their fractured form in germany as Johanniter and Malteser. They operate ambulances, train EMTs and provide first aid courses to the public.
And the Johanniter are Protestant too
Really enjoyed this, have subscribed, Garry
Very informative. Well done.
Thanks for the post. I was hoping for more on the Teutonic knights in that I have been doing Ancestry research of my family that came from the northern Crusade areas. Do you possibly have some good links for this? Thanks again for the post.
My ancestor was a Basque Knight named Sancho "por Lobos" Artero who was given the title de Muzquiz by King Indigo ' El Fuerte" and made him Captain of his guard in the year 1212.
@DD X See just lied there again.
@DD X Niether were my ancestors!
@DD X Dam it! Just did it again!
@DD XI don't think so, I also don't think he was El Cinto Presidente to la Republica Mexicana General Melchior Muzquiz
Extremely informative, I must say. Well done!
So which would you say is the best starter class? I mean Teutonic Knights seem like really good high-tier builds.
Hospitallers were also medically trained to take care of wounded soldiers on the battlefield. Like you know this WW2 film, the soldiers with medic signs on there helmet that medically trained. They were those class of Knights during that era. Very well needed - that’s why they are my favourite.
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Liyanna De Lioncourt my brother always loved the Teutonic order the most. I like the knights of Lazarus with the green cross.
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Just leaving a comment to say I've been really enjoying your videos and have been obsessively watching them for the past few days trying to expand my knowledge of the Crusades. If you see this comment and get a chance to respond, I have a quick question. I was wondering if all the military orders universally practiced tonsuring of the hair and growing their facial hair (to a certain extent) or if that was just the Knights Templar. I've been trying to research this myself and haven't had much success, if you would been kind enough to respond this comment, I would really appreciate it. Either way, thank you for these videos, they've been really enjoyable to watch.
Hey thanks for watching the videos! To answer your question, I believe all of them practiced tonsuring, but I'm not positive. It was essentially a universal practice among religious orders at the time.
There is so much to this subject from what I see from the comments below, a little bewildering for a (newbie) pardon the Pun, but I get the strong feeling this is such an important part to our history, that should never be forgotton.
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Can you do a video about the Order of Santiago, Knights of St John, and the Knights of Malta?
sonicluffypucca96 the knights of Saint John is an incredible story!
Knights of Malta are Hospitallers.
Yess thiss!!!!
Wow I literally thought "mmh I wonder what the differences are between the 3 factions" I googled it, and lo and behold the exact thing I was looking for was in this video. Cheers!
The Teutonic Knights are my favorite Crusading monastic order. Mostly because the Northern Crusades are so unknown to the average person in comparison to the Crusades in the Levant, the Iberian Peninsula, and even the Mediterranean. And unlike the other Crusades, which were against Saracen Muslims, the Northern Crusades were against the last vestige of North European paganism. So to imagine what the Northern Crusades would look like, imagine classical Crusader soldiers and knights going up against pagan Viking warriors in the forested regions of the Baltic!
Teutonic Knights and their Northern Crusade are stains on the good name of Crusaders. While in the beginning they were fighting against pagan Prussians they quickly became the victims of their own success. After running out of pagans to conquer they turned against their Catholic neighbours Poland and newly christened Lithuania and they kept fighting them for two centuries, at the same time claiming they were defending Christianity from some imagined pagan invaders. After being decisively defeated by Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth they converted to Lutheran heresy. What an embarrassing end to former defenders of Catholic faith...
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Lutheran Heresy? Martin Luther spoke against the corruption and sin of the Pope's actions and the degeneration of the Church. His oats were also rather pissed on when people began over throwing and sacking churches
But still, the teutons were not really much of a faith fighters rather, they were the Holy roman emperors own holy fighting order
Let's not forget about the Teutonic Knights crusade against the Orthodox Rus. Latin Christians crusading against Orthodox Christian Slavs. That had absolutely nothing to do with converting Baltic pagans.
again, they serve the holy roman emperors will a lot even if it conflicts with their faith.
Love you he channel!! Keep the vids coming
I loved this brief intro the the different orders! Thank you!,
Thanks!
Your information in this video was dead on. I love the history and lore of the military orders.
This was a very interesting discussion. You obviously have a lot of knowledge on-hand about mendicant military orders. A little editing would go along a long way to make your points clearer. That said, thank you for your overview, I enjoyed it immensely.
I wonder where I put that book.. The Templars by Piers Paul Read
Very insightful video brother! Keep up the fantastic work. Teutonic Knights!!
Thanks for the excellent comment!
Thanks again for another nice video. I am a big fan off this chanel:)
It's also cool to look at the coat of Arms in some places in Europe that came from the first Crusade like Godfrey's path he took and where he came from and what country today flags the Cross of LORRAINE...and maps of Strongholds in the 1100s..in my town named after my family in 1128 and still named was a Stronghold and a Church was built there after Godfrey's pass..In castle Country...which by looking at a map shows how easy it was from most the Templars to get gold and men at sea with help of the Hospitaller's Which stayed intact after 1307 and help from the Teutonic Knights to carry the most prized item all the way to Westford and beyond..and it wasn't the grail..it has sat at the port of the grail for hundreds of years at Portugal which means just that the port of the Grail...I'm lucky I have the world's expert on thises brain to pick..
How accurate was the movie with SC in searching for the chalice?
cool history we need these people now ....knights
@Truck Man yes we do man
Some of us try.
@Truck Man your not , how do you say it, bright are ya there???
Good video man
I'm from Colombia, but my gosh, i love this topics...
Funny that the very same year Colon reached America, and starts a most important chapter of the history of all countries of the continent, also marks the end of the most important role the military orders had in Spain, Las Ordenes Militares still exist today but since 1492 and the Conquest of Granada they have been mostly a symbolic thing linked to the Kings of Spain. One of the particular ways that show how that year is the moment when one long era ended.
Very insightful and enjoyable. Thank you.
So did the Teutonic Knights mainly operated in Europe? I also heard that the said knights has an alliance with the Templars, can anyone verify this? And was there a rivalry between the orders, mainly the Hospitalers and the Templars? Thanks for the vid!
The Teutonic Knights started in the holy land but then went north
The templars Teutons and hospitaller all were allied and in battle fought side by side
I'm not sure about rivalries but I can only imagine for some petty squabbles but nothing major
Look at the castle os Malbrok Poland
It's a brotherhood threw and threw
Templer had branches in Germany
Not even a mention of the Order of St. Lazarus? Razzberry!
Originally saw this the other day, but there was not link. What caused the delay?
Began life as Hospitallers struck down by Leprosy and confined to a leper colony. Refusing to give up they formed their own order and fought the Saracens either alongside other knights - a bit further away or alone? They wore black with no insignia.. None survived combat.
Thanks, informative. I am also enjoying all the professional historians on here...😉
Fascinating video! Just wondering, you mentioned a novel, have you ever thought about putting out crusade history in the form of a tabletop rpg? The only thing I'm aware of out there that comes close is PENDRAGON, by Chaosium (4th edition is currently the cheapest and easiest to get but there are others). Though not specifically crusade era, there is a wealth of information in the PENDRAGON rpg on knights, their history, etc. Of course, it is a mix of history and fantasy, but there is certainly room out there for more history based tabletop RPGs. Just a thought. You sure seem to have the history and source material. Just have to probably work with someone good at building RPG systems, do a Kickstarter, etc. Plenty of people are doing this with fantasy. Sure would be wonderful to see more history made learnable through gaming. (Note, I say this as a Deist with a Christian past).
I like the conversational style. It's refreshing. 👍
Great video, also Knights Templars were a special force, trained for combat, and proffesional at its job, unlike other orders.
Not quite
Both the Hospitallers and the Templars were onky had Knights that would fight, so they'd be on par with the Templars since the Templars only had Knights in their order who were trained from birth
The Teutonic order on the other hand was a full blown army with Archer units, infantry and cavalry while the Templars only had heavy cavalry and the Hospitallers mainly had infantry
were the templars and Hospitallers more close with the kingdom of jeruselum or france or England if u had to pick
Thanks, brother.
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TTEMJYL means repairing metal goods. PPETNEUNDA means taking away from someone. Duy mean back Ap means front.Don means money or crazy. Tuitdon( the crazy money).
I'm looking for information about a black Knight with a white shield with a silver snake on the shield. Any one know anything please.
Question for all.
How would you describe how the Crusades have been distorted by the main news media, history in our education systems, tv, films,and different religions ?
What is the Order of Santiago and are they considered crusaders? How are & who were they compared to the Hospitalier, Templars & other well known Orders?
I'm proud to be descended from crusaders.
@marios gianopoulos clearly the pillagers
@marios gianopoulos *Which*
From where are u? Are u german?
@@-zipfelkltsch3r-348 ethnically German and English.
I am a descendent of the Teutonic Knights.
great channel, thank you
Isn’t this the same topic that you posted yesterday?
Thanks for the video
I think all the variant orders were not static when it comes to how they were represented, as they would have evolved over the hundreds of years of their existence. So where they may have started out as almost marines it's possible due to their influence they were much like the Varangian guard, which too co-evolved with the times as their power waxed and waned.
Assassin's Creed brought me here☺ and i enjoy learning about these things.
11:01 I am interested in everything about the Templars. Thank you and God Bless!!
You gotta play CK2 man! It will be cool to hear you talk more about ir while playing the game :D
How many of the knights were from northern Germany verse from France? They rode on a famous breed of giant horse which is why they could sometimes double up. Do you know the name of that horse breed?
My sir name comes from the 'Battle on the Lake', against Alexander Nefsky when the Teutonic Knights were defeated when they fell thru the ICE! 'PLENN' means prisoner of war!
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Nice, i like your shorter videos more, i think you should also make a format like History Time does. However, i'm not saying you should stop with long videos as well. Anyway, whatever you choose to do in the future i support you, and keep it up.
The Hospitallers broke after Napoleon defeated them. The Russian Tsar welcomed them, and Protestant spin offs like the St. John Ambulance Corps were developed. The original Catholic order still exists in Malta today and their Grand Master holds the equivalent rank as the most junior Cardinal and marches directly behind the lowest Cardinal in all state events for the Roman Catholic Church. Although their rank is that of the most junior Cardinal, the Grand Master does not participate in any conclaves to elect the Pope. They still maintain their original role of providing medical aid to the poor and respond to natural disasters around the world. They also have a group that serves as part of the Italian Armed Forces, although it does not serve a military role.
The Teutonic Knights still exist as a religious order under St. Mary, which was how the Teutonic Knights were originally formed. They no longer have a military role.
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you're very welcome!
Can you do a video about the Knights of Saint Lazarus?
The duel purpose of Templars could be interpreted as Banking also?
Nice synopsis 👍🏼
Thanks!
Vary nice job, just subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
I had a cancer nurse, Tina, who was a direct descendant of King Richard The Lionhearted.
Portugal was the first Nation of the Templars
He later founded the Order of Christ
Nope, first templars were french
I Always wanted to be a Knight... not sure which order.
Teutonic for me.
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1:19 the best translators of the age were often the military men who had been all around Europe and the Middle East. So the Hospitallers definitely had knights from the start. But likely a fusion of the priest doctors and their military escorts.
3:38 so you don’t think these guys were digging tunnels and building giant castles? Or…
The Templars were military engineers, brother.
Templar architecture is some of the finest examples of Norman Architecture.
4:14 and the Templars built the strongholds and navies of Spain and Portugal. Henry the Navigator? Knights Templar. Technically Military Order of Jesus Christ. But that’s the refounding name of the Portuguese Templars.
But he became the Grand Master. So hardly just some exclusively warrior order.
4:50 absolutely, but they always had some small contingent with the orders in the Holyland. Usually just a few, but they were pretty legendary for their size, so having an Ajax type or two always helps infantry strength.
Up north they were mounted knights, but they would often lead infantry units in the Holyland. That’s why I don’t discount those horns being real, they make an excellent sight for the infantry, that’s why the Centurians always wore crests. Plus it made them even more intimidating. I know we think that look was just ceremonial for tournaments, but i don’t fully discount the notion that some of them had some sort of helmet decoration in a similar style.
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I was told that Teutonic knights often wrote their surname with a cross at the end (like a crucifix cross) for example “Gerhard” written as “Gerhardt.”
I’ve tried to research this and cannot come up with any real evidence that supports this.
Are you aware of it at all?
Great content
What about St Ann (ROMAN emperor Constantine’s mother) that went to the Holy land searching for Christ’s wooden cross and other artifacts?
Constantine's mother was called Helena
Ste Ann was the grand- mother of Christ and not the wife of Constantin.
Have you done videos on the Kights of St. Lazarus and the Knights of Santiago?
Didn't Pope Clement the 8th, member of the Aldobrandini Black Nobility Family decree that all the wealth of the Knights Templar should go to the Hospitaliers???? Can you make a video about this?
I enjoyed this thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Teutonic Knights v/s Alexander Nevsky battle is also famous
I'm from Latvia and Germans became a ruling class of Latvian and Estonian territory for like 700 years, Germans named Livonia and even today there is kinda a lot of latvians with German last names.
Are there non religious orders because I’ve heard that an “order” is like an organization religious or not it is just a group of people together that have a common goal
I appreciate your work, but, everything is disputable bcs the main archieves are hidden and locked. Just enthusiastic ppl like you, with will and energy, creates and collects some basic, fundamental information and from time to time deeper insights in our history. Thank you, I wish you very best🤗
I brought a force of 1500 feudal knights playing as Denmark in Total War Medieval 2 against a force of 600 Teutonic knights and boi they destroyed me
Great video
Knights of Santiago: Am I a joke to you?
Hmm. Templars accepting a Teutonic Knight who had been expelled. Reminds me when the USAF accepted several cadets who were expelled from West Point for violating honor code. One of whom became a general I believe.
Found this vid at 3:30am and somehow getting some sleep didn't matter anymore.
Last Templar Grand Master Was The French Master Jacques De Molay. Known as the "Tragedy Of Jacques De Molay" Molay Got Burned Alive In The Eyes Of King Philip Of France Himself "Philip The Fair" in 1317
Please Correct Me If I'm Wrong Guys,it'll be much appreciated!! 😃
You are correct.
I was with my brother waiting for the tour boat that would take us on the Seine. We were stationed by a bridge. I looked up, and there, carved in well worn stone, was the name "Jacques De Molay" and a simple phrase indicating this spot was where he was burned. It sent a shiver through me.
@@triestino80 Wow . That's a once in a lifetime thing. Your lucky . Hope you got a picture of it. I'm jealous . 🙂
Was that because of an affair he had with the kings wife or something like that?
In 'El Libro de los Juegos' ... 'Book of the Games', by Alfonse X of Castile married to Violant (the 'Violent') of Aragon (the 'Arrogant') , there's a picture of Two Templars (not Hospitalers or Teutonic Knights) playing chess. I''ve wondered if either is making the Knight's move. Alfonse's book contains the rules for the games of Chess, Dice and Backgammon ! By making 8 strategic Knight's moves, you can create the 8 pointed crosses of the 3 Orders .,...by making 8 more strategic moves inward from the Octagon points, you can create the 'Tesseract' (4th Dimension Chess Cube)...considered a power source in one of the 'Thor' themed movies !