Well, that's how thing progress. Somebody tries to improve things by a small margin. Then the next guy improves that, and two or three improvements later, some guy 'makes a breakthrough', by consolidating the improvements. And thus progress is made.
“BOIM US OUTTA HERE!” Lol it wouldn’t be Star Trek with out a shot of somebody racing down a hallway in a desperate last-second attempt to save the day.
True. I really dislike that they could have used this episode to show why talented people should be forced to move up the chain of command instead of asked because this ship's Captain was obviously not the first choice and she only got the job because no one else was willing to. Mariner could have been the captiain of this ship and she would 't have gotten its crew killed...
I mean, she did ended up dying in space right? A few episodes further ahead, holy fuck that death scene…… should’ve chosen another career if you didn’t wanted to die in space!
I really relate Mariner in this, in the air force I didn't want to promote because I liked being an responsible for only me and being able to help people the on ground. When I promoted to staff sergeant, I was behind put behind a desk and had to enforce rules I didn't like. Also, high ranks never speak their mind cause they have so much to lose. Which is why I think Mariner is so outspoken, she isnt trying to impress anyone cause she is only an ensign
I love it how the Vulcan when there in phase mode how she stands there playing with her hands like she’s never seen them before or like someone who is just comeing out of anasthetic, I love the Vulcans even more the female Vulcan is so adorable.
I think she was wiping dust off her clothes. With the other ship being destroyed, they probably got a lot of dust on their clothing and some of it may have been transported with them. Alternatively, she might've been straightening out her clothes (like getting rid of some creases and/or folds).
@@happy_amoeba doesn't look like that to me. I think she was basically testing her body's current state to see if there's any cause for actual alarm, other than being translucent, luminous and making an ear grating sound.
Well, one of the Data/Lore/Borg incident happened in 2370 and the show is set in 2380, so Mariner could've served in the Dominion War, which was 2373-2375
@@thedelta4258 ye that alone would explain a lot of why she doesn't want to deal with promotions. Honestly I never knew the timeline of this show until now XD
ShadowWriter45: What more do you want? She was a complete Mary Sue; but she was SO smart that she realized how STUPID everyone ELSE is, since she wasn't the supreme ruler of everything; and so she just got tired of how stupid everyone else is.
Dayton and Mariner are the reason why Starfleet is a bad organization. Because talented people like Mariner choose to be postpone their talented leadership and Dayton who aren't ready choose to take the promotion without being ready. And Starfleet allows this kind of waste of potential.
Sidenote: Amina was channeling the ghost of Dr. "Bones" McCoy here pretty hard with her response to Lt. Durga's Vulcan Grasp of the Obvious. "Oh, YA THINK!?"
What if the Cerritos had a "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode? Aka. The Cerritos time travel to an episode of a previous Star Trek show. You know what I think could be perfect? They time travel to Star Trek TAS, replicating the original Filmation "animation" of the 70's.
You know the whole thing with Mariner wanting to be top shelf member of the lower decks reminds me of the Turians and how once someone finds a good place where they do good work in the military that's celebrated.
Not everyone feels the need or want to advance so far in such a competitive career, I suppose. Finding the spot where you fit best among the gears is something worth celebrating, even if that spot is not the top.
@@Timeward76 it just sucks whenever a system gives less compensation than you can live off of for a full time job, just because it isn't management. Starfleet at least is utopic enough the ensigns still live pretty well
“Come on baby, give Rutherford the juice!” Is I think my favorite line from this sequence, which is saying something since there are so many good lines.
I am very aware that at this point Bridges have a massive window for a viewscreen purely out of spite for the people who hated it in the in the Kelvin movies. And I'm ok with that. Double down, Kurtzman. Own that shit, man.
Bridges having actual windows for viewscreen isn't even a bad idea, tactical-wise. If the viewscreen fails entirely, it means you can still see outside and have at least one thing to still be able to navigate by. Even in modern day, ship bridges are exposed instead of buried deep in the hull's armor because situational awareness is worth more than anything else. Can you imagine the nebula battle in Wrath of Khan if they could actually just look out through the inactive viewscreen to see?
@@Timeward76 The combat information center (CIC) of many Navy warships is located below the main deck and is not located in the main bridge. That might change if modern radars can be defeated by new technology, but that's where they track threats, targets, and issue commands to fire weapons. It's kinda like a starship bridge split in two, one for the helm, the other for tactical.
@@MMuraseofSandvich I think it is not entirely correct to compare a federation starship to any warship. They dont make warships after all :P But the bigger starships in starfleet do in fact have a secondary bridge, or "battle bridge" as is sometimes called. Theyre just not commonly used because the normal bridge is often good enough for most things, and starfleet is rarely anticipating battle. When they DO anticipate battle, the battle bridge does come in handy. But given that the main bridge is usually the one used for most things, having an actual window I'd still a tactical trade off.
I dont want to say it was a continuity error but pulling a phaser moments before you suffocate or get blown into space is really telling about the character.
You know I just realised, isn't it weird that Mariner actually went to the Academy at all? She seems like the enlist straightaway to get in space as fast as possible type.
I'm sure her parents insisted that she go to the Academy Besides, whether enlisted even exist in Star Trek is pretty unclear (the best explanation is that enlisted are only accepted in wartime and are sent home or to the Academy when the war ends).
@@billymanners9629 Actually starfleet always has enlisted personnel, Chief O'Brien is at the highest ranked enlisted officer rank for example. But you're definitely right about her parents.
@@DavidBDavis-lz7bt Like the "But I got a Phaser!"-moment in episode 3? The episode where Boimler excels at his tasks when everybody else cannot cope with the workload? And then is the one that actually talks the captain out of that timing-nonsense?
upon rewatching this action sequence captain Ramsey sounds like her voiceactor has a cold or something. like everytime she raises her voice a little its about to break
A core problem with any organisation is promoting people beyond their competence. Ego notwithstanding, it's better to promote around the different sections of a level of responsibility, broadening experience and knowledge. Promotion should never be a popularity contest, or based upon people being impressed. That's how we get all these psychoes and liars in politics.
During the Dominion War? Yeaaah. Definitely. Especially front-line vessels (and they were pretty much ALL Front-line vessels, especially after the Breen orbital-struck Earth that one time). This is post-Nemesis though, and Starfleet has shown a (marginal) return to a pre-war status. The padded grey/black uniforms are out, in favour of the less-agressive more colourful fair, and people are joining back up to Explore, not to Defend/Fight-the-Dominion. Also, the Cerritos isn't a front-line ship by design or mission. The California-class starships are support vessels in function and the Cerritos is outfitted as a second-contact vessel...so lots of diplomatic and technical-uplift/support duty with a side of good ol'sciencing and mapping, as it picks up the slack and left-overs made by the battlecruiser/explorers like the Galaxy or the Sovereign or even Nebula, Akira, and the handful of venerable centenarian Excelsiors that managed to survive through the big DW and Borg attacks. The Cerritos herself is probably getting a bit into her years of design relevance, as the California class seems to have a mostly TNG-era Galaxy-stylized features...Akira-esq, at the latest, based on the nacelles. Design wise, the California-class has details that could point to it being a protodesign for the Steamrunner, with the raised wedge on after Saucer section and the compact stardrive/main-deflector section between the nacelles....just cut off a chunk of the saucer's forward parts and chuck the pylons in favour of integrating the front half of the nacelles and bussard collectors into what's left...and viola. Steamrunner.
@@monsterhunter66 since the Enterprise D galaxy class in Startrek the next generation in like 1987 and Starfleet isn’t strictly military it’s more like NASA and the navy
I forget how this episode worked. Wouldn't it just have been faster to just transport them all rather than waiting for Rutherford to run all the way to the transporter room?
How old is Mariner? Her classmate made captain; are they old or young? Captains in the US Navy are usually in their 40's before getting the call. Although the Abrams reboot had cadet Kirk being given the Flag Ship Enterprise, passing over every other captain and commander in Star Flight. I enjoy Lower Decks. I enjoyed the reboot eventhough the cadet to captain bit was totally improbable.
Mariner has been demoted. And this is post dominion war and post Wolf 359. So lots of new ship, not a lot of senior bridge crew. So competent people get promoted quickly. I think Mariner had a burnout episode, and now just doesn't want the responsibility to be in charge anymore. Her personality is still to take charge but she doesn't want the responsibility.
Evidence seems to point to Mariner being in her early to mid-30s. My guesses to everyone's age are: Freeman: 55-60, Ransom: 35-40, Shaxs: 55-60, Billups: 35-40, T'ana: Not enough clues yet, acts like a burnt-out 45-year-old trauma doc though; Mariner: 30-35; Rutherford: 26-30; Boimler: 23-24; Tendi: 22-23.
In TOS, Kirk was only in his early-30's. Granted, he was acknowledged as being young for a captain, especially of what was at the time a top-of-the-line starship. But Starfleet does seem to reward talent and accomplishments without getting too hung up over age. Mariner acts like a college student, but she's obviously much older considering the long list of adventures she can rattle off. I'd guess that she's at least 30.
@@redactedrider7606 Boimler made a wrong assumption and she didn't bother to correct him until now (he may not have voiced it until now). The youngest captain in Starfleet history (Tryla Scott) was 28 when she took command of the USS Renegade. So that is a hard lower limit on Mariner's age. She's at LEAST five to six years older than Boimler and more likely 10 years older.
@@katherineberger6329 nog from ds9 was around 22 years old when he made Lieutenant junior grade at the end of ds9 mariner must have entered Starfleet academy at around 16/17 years of age due to her being a military brat for lack of better term
*@Oldtaku_DD ~* In a broad sense, you are correct. *;)* 1. Yes, Ensigns Bradward Boimler and Beckett Mariner are the same age (according to Boimler), and therefore are also the same age as Captain Amina Ramsey (voiced by the lovely Toks Olagundoye). 2. The difference between Mariner and Boimler is that Mariner was *_born into_* Starfleet, similar to Wesley Crusher; unlike Boimler who (probably) enlisted at whatever age-minimum there is. Unlike Wesley, however, Beckett was raised with Starfleet from an early age (how early has not been specified yet); as opposed to Wesley starting in his late teens. This *_early_* start (rather than a "head" start), combined with her natural talent(s) for Starfleet work, is why Mariner is so proficient in many fields, and also why Mariner has far more field-experience than Boimler. Think of Mariner like Jack Reacher. Reacher was born into the military, raised in the military, trained in a wide-array of military skills since childhood, and (field-)experienced military life as his father (Captain Stan Reacher) moved from posting to posting, all long before Reacher was of-age to be formally enlisted. Thus why Reacher as a character is a _plausible_ badass, especially when it comes to dealing with the military. Unlike Reacher, who left the military, Mariner _remains_ in Starfleet despite her frustrations with some of the rules, protocols, politicking, and even her parents; because Starfleet-life is all Mariner has known, and cannot imagine being anywhere else (also in addition to Mariner still believing in Starfleet's nobler ideals). The positive-strength of Mariner's character is that she is working to find her own way and place in Starfleet, at her own pace, not letting anyone/anything dictate her path. Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
Some are specualting Boimler could have been a later in life member of Starfleet. Like a non-trad in college. This is why he's focused and sure he's doing what he's supposed to. My buddy said the air force would take him till he was 38... so there is real life precedent.
Just because he thinks it doesn't make it true. I'm going to presume an age gap unless I see on screen proof. Based on her parent's appearances alone she's at least early 30's, which syncs up with a few other things seen so far.
@@Vipre- ~ Not sure if your Reply meant me or *@patsfreak,* but just to (friendly) cover bases... *:)* 1. *_'On-screen'_** ~* Boimler remarks how he and Mariner are the same age during [1x02; "Envoys"], unable to understand how Mariner has so much more field-experience than him (thus the "according to Boimler" part in my earlier Reply-comment). The exact point, I do not recall off-handedly. _{I >think< it was when they were wandering through the bazaar looking for their wayward Klingon general escort? Right now I am too weary to look it up at the moment (coming off a Graveyard Shift of work); if I feel/remember the urge to do so, I may Edit-update this Reply later.}_ 2. Captain Ramsey and Mariner are of the same Starfleet class-generation; so, obviously, they are the same age as well; which is the central point of Ramsey's character for this episode's [1x07] story. Ramsey's story-role in this episode is for character-contrast, to show *_"What Could Have Been",_* had Mariner followed the Path of Ambition/Promotions after Starfleet Academy, as everyone expected Mariner to do. ("We all thought you'd be the first captain from our class.") 3. I think 30's age-bracket may be too far. The Lower Decks crew are meant to be the thematic opposite(s) of the Senior Officers, so they are probably much more youthful (especially Tendi, who is the _"Kid"_ [character theme] of the Lower Decks cast), probably in the _"Young Adult"_ range (whatever that may be in the ST:TNG era). Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
Well, as much as Starfleet likes to pretend that it's a meritocracy, we've seen many times that it's still a bureaucracy. A Sci-Fi bureaucracy, but still one nonetheless. There's still corruption, favoritism, nepotism, and all the usual problems that plague military and government organizations. The Captain of the Rubidoux must have been good at playing politics or knew the right people.
There have been plenty of captains in real life who were good enough during the everyday tasks and did well enough in exercises but turned out to be completely unsuited in an extreme situation. Most airline-pilots never have to make an actual crash-landing so we don't know if they can do it outside a simulator.
To be fair, you’re talking about the someone being the captain of one of these California-class ships. Aside from the general Star Fleet danger of space work, they don’t appear to see a lot of important action or roles. So it would not be the first time in history that someone was just competent enough (with enough time in service) to obtain the rank but placed in a situation where they couldn’t cause too much trouble.
I read a few commentaries here that speak about unwillingness to take on responsibilities and command. Humility is admirable but consider that you might be talented and that people want to promote you on merit not dumping more work on you. Also consider that maybe the next person who is in line for that promotion is just willing to gain the fame or the benefits of the promotion, but they have no experience leading people. Are you willing to let your fellow crewmates die following the orders of someone who was less capable than you? The ship's captain is the basic example, you can tell that she was not ready for that responsability yet she got it because people like Mariner didn't want the responsability. As a result she get her ship and crew members killed and Mariner got to sleep in and do her Robin hood. The series could have said something about lack of willingness to take command and the consequences of those actions but it choose to just turn Boimler blue and a weird Dog Thing parody... Sometimes this show had some great ideas that it has to scrap for the sake of jokes... and it's sad.
There is such a thing as finding a level you're comfortable at. Sure, you might have the capacity and skills required to rise through the ranks, but you might also find you really enjoy the dynamic and responsibilities of a rank somewhere in the middle or bottom.
@@hemaccabe4292 fair, i really am enjoying, i think its a very impressive feat to make a comedy trek that works, im glad they kept the trek feel in the same way disco and picard did, and to be honest, its the better version of rick and morty
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She's not perfect and they show it. It's likely that watching a shape-changing Alien murder her friend and other incidents have really messed with her head.
That's the problem. Mariner likes the kinds of adventures that she can have in Starfleet because she's an adrenaline junkie. But she hates responsibility and rules, so she tries to stay an ensign. Which wouldn't be a problem if she didn't also demand the kind of respect that senior officers get. She wants the perks, but not the job itself.
Was certain I wasn't going to enjoy this show from all the negativity around it. But then I watched it and yeah, it's got some rough edges and some underhanded themes of misandry, etc but compared with STD and Picard, this isn't half bad. I'm into it.
Not as much misandry as some easily-triggered people claim. For example, in "Temporal Edict", Ransom was shown to be every bit as much of a badass as he acts like. As opposed to being a bumbling meathead who's all talk.
@@alphanerd7221 Nowhere that I'm aware of. Might be as idiotic as Mariner being Mariner, just at a male of some sort, regardless of context. There's a hate machine running around the internet these days, and they seize on anything they can to hate on something.
Wait, what's going on in this episode? Do we get us a SECOND Mariner... with a British accent at that?? Like one wasn't enough; and wasn't annoying enough?
*@Leonid Andreev...* 1. Captain Amina Ramsey is voiced by the lovely *Toks Olagundoye* (Nigerian actress, British educated), who has played many _"strong female"_ roles (live and voiced). Her current notable (voice) role is that of the formidable Mrs. Beakley, for the rebooted DuckTales (2017 series). 2. Captain Ramsey's presence/role in this episode [1x07] is meant to be for *character-contrasts...* - a.) Captain Ramsey, being the same age, high-skilled competence, & Starfleet Academy class-generation as Mariner, is meant to show *_'What Could Have Been',_* had Mariner followed the path to promotions and Officer-ship (-hood?) after graduating from Starfleet Academy, as everyone (Mariner's friends, classmates, & parents) had expected Mariner to do. - b.) As Captain Ramsey admits, she *_deliberately_* took the boring assignment to "babysit" the USS Cerritos, with the ulterior motive to try to recruit Mariner over to the USS Oakland and make Mariner her XO (Executive Officer) there. However, Ramsey's hidden agenda was done with *_good_* intentions, stemming from her close Friendship with Mariner. From her perspective, Ramsey was unable to comprehend Mariner's inexplicable loss of career-motivation and -ambition after graduating with top-marks at Starfleet Academy; of which, Mariner also helped Ramsey to excel at Starfleet Academy (despite the duo being mischief makers), which led to Ramsey's own (early) Captaincy. Simply put, Ramsey was trying to help her friend Mariner, *_"get back on track."_* Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
@@pendrake40 I figured it was something along these lines. But thank you for a detailed and serious reply. (I feel like they went a little overboard with the fact that she's already a captain. Making her a lt. commander would have been enough to make a point, of how much of an overachiever she is - and just how bad of a screwup ensign Mariner is, by contrast...)
@@leonidandreev1171 ... 3. *_>Captain< Ramsey_** ~* Nah, Ramsey 'had' to be a Captain for this episode [1x07]. - a.) What was understated (and therefore easy to miss) was that Ramsey only made Captain very recently. This was a secondary factor to why Ramsey was attempting to recruit Mariner to be her XO (Ramsey still needed one), in addition to her ulterior (but well-meant) motives. - b.) Ramsey also needed to be a Captain in order to have the authority to 'poach' Mariner from the USS Cerritos to the USS Oakland. Not because Captain Freeman would resist the transfer (probably the opposite, given the current mother-daughter conflicts between Freeman vs. Mariner), but because Mariner would not be able to (legally) oppose it; even if Mariner were desperate enough to appeal to Captain Freeman to countermand such. 4. *_Mariner vs. Ramsey_** ~* Mariner is _NOT_ a screw-up, very much the opposite. The 'trick' is that Mariner _KNEW_ (or more accurately, figured it out very early-on) that Ramsey was there to try to make Mariner her XO (a job Mariner did not want); however, Mariner also knew Ramsey's ulterior motives/agenda was earnestly well-intentioned. So Mariner was *_>acting
Well that's stupid. She fails often, has personality flaws, and a background that shows why she is a badass, and when her male boss trash talks her, and physically assaults her, not only does he deliver on his promise to be physically dominant, she wants to have sex with him over it.
You are aware, surely, that EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER in Star Trek is a Mary Sue at some point. Every last one. That's just how they wrote the show back in the day. Only recently have writers allowed the idea that our heroes have character flaws. That's a recent thing, ok?
@@ClickBeetleTV yeah keep eating shit and calling it spaghetti. Your why star trek sucks so much they are out to please the lowest common denominator and that is you...
Soooooo that's the other half of Beckett's back story she was near tricked into getting a bum job due too her best friend who talks like Minnie driver by which I mean 🇬🇧 yes ok thank u n judging by the others impersonating ghost 2:42 I🤔☺ assume this is the same ep that started wit boliemer
Gotta admit, Rutherford shaving off half a second with the transporter payed off with huge results
i wonder if he meant half a second per person. which means if there were 60 people there, he took off an entire 30 seconds
Well, that's how thing progress. Somebody tries to improve things by a small margin. Then the next guy improves that, and two or three improvements later, some guy 'makes a breakthrough', by consolidating the improvements. And thus progress is made.
Every half a second counts in life or death situations.
without that half second off he would have beamed up a lotta corpses... so rutherford was responsible for saving ALL of them :D
It took him several seconds just to get to that transporter... was there something the normal one couldn't do here?
“BOIM US OUTTA HERE!”
Lol it wouldn’t be Star Trek with out a shot of somebody racing down a hallway in a desperate last-second attempt to save the day.
If it were proper Star Trek he'd be strolling down the hallway with a slightly agitated pace and an extreme lack of chill.
Maybe if they weren't wasting time gabbing about their personal arguments then they could have beamed sooner
"I can do that! I CAN DO THAT"
@@raideurng2508 I miss Anton Yelchin.
And just like that Boimler has two things named after him, hope they name a planet after him in season 5
0:44 "I don't want to die in space."
"I hate to break it to you but... Starfleet operates in outer space..." Kirk to McCoy. (Star Trek, 2009) XD
True.
I really dislike that they could have used this episode to show why talented people should be forced to move up the chain of command instead of asked because this ship's Captain was obviously not the first choice and she only got the job because no one else was willing to.
Mariner could have been the captiain of this ship and she would 't have gotten its crew killed...
Those characters aren't in that movie.
I mean, she did ended up dying in space right? A few episodes further ahead, holy fuck that death scene…… should’ve chosen another career if you didn’t wanted to die in space!
@@fightingpromiss that was kinda on her. She didn't think about anything, just reacted and it ended up getting her entire crew killed.
That kind of behavior will get you killed in space
"Boim-us out of here!"
Had to replay that a couple times to catch that!
Isn't it great that Boimler now has two things named after him? The Boimler Effect and Boiming Up.
@@spyrofan9681 Right?! lol
I didn’t catch that when I watched it either. But Boimler said it too right before he phased.
I really relate Mariner in this, in the air force I didn't want to promote because I liked being an responsible for only me and being able to help people the on ground. When I promoted to staff sergeant, I was behind put behind a desk and had to enforce rules I didn't like.
Also, high ranks never speak their mind cause they have so much to lose. Which is why I think Mariner is so outspoken, she isnt trying to impress anyone cause she is only an ensign
That honestly makes sense. Some people just don't like the added responsibilities a promotion comes with.
I was Navy and I feel this.
That was the case with Admiral/Captain Kirk back in TOS Movies too.
"With great power comes great responsibility."
"Well F*CK YOUR POWER THEN."
@@psychronia With regular power, comes not being a huge dick.
I actually binged watched this the last night. It was the best Star Trek pardoy that still has the heart of what Trek is.
Kind of like _The Orville._
@@theborgqueen6891 But damn if it doesn't got the heart of what made the older Star Trek shows great!
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's actually canon
it is 100% canon
Yeah this isn't a parody, its a legit star trek show haha
This was actually a Trek-worthy plot. Now we need more Hortas and we solid.
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"Solid?" That was a joke about Hortas, right?
@@gedias1 no, they're too metal for that.
We did get rock people, but still no Horta.
I never though you could get a good laugh out of "it's just cosmetic!"
its noice that Mariner actually says "Boim us out of here"
I love it how the Vulcan when there in phase mode how she stands there playing with her hands like she’s never seen them before or like someone who is just comeing out of anasthetic, I love the Vulcans even more the female Vulcan is so adorable.
I think she was wiping dust off her clothes. With the other ship being destroyed, they probably got a lot of dust on their clothing and some of it may have been transported with them. Alternatively, she might've been straightening out her clothes (like getting rid of some creases and/or folds).
@@happy_amoeba doesn't look like that to me. I think she was basically testing her body's current state to see if there's any cause for actual alarm, other than being translucent, luminous and making an ear grating sound.
@@Timeward76 fair enough
After "The Inner Fight", this episode hits differently...
Now I really want know more about Mariner's past after this episode.
Well, one of the Data/Lore/Borg incident happened in 2370 and the show is set in 2380, so Mariner could've served in the Dominion War, which was 2373-2375
@@thedelta4258 ye that alone would explain a lot of why she doesn't want to deal with promotions. Honestly I never knew the timeline of this show until now XD
ShadowWriter45: What more do you want? She was a complete Mary Sue; but she was SO smart that she realized how STUPID everyone ELSE is, since she wasn't the supreme ruler of everything; and so she just got tired of how stupid everyone else is.
@@kenburns4547 so she's doing kirk (promotions leads to situations where you don't personally make a difference)?
@@targetseeker I don't talk to ass-hats.
"Give Rutherford the Juice"
Dayton saying she doesn't want to die in space :(
I never realized that...
Dayton and Mariner are the reason why Starfleet is a bad organization. Because talented people like Mariner choose to be postpone their talented leadership and Dayton who aren't ready choose to take the promotion without being ready.
And Starfleet allows this kind of waste of potential.
Yeah, that didn't age well, huh...
Sidenote: Amina was channeling the ghost of Dr. "Bones" McCoy here pretty hard with her response to Lt. Durga's Vulcan Grasp of the Obvious. "Oh, YA THINK!?"
The gun cocking sound of from the phaser was hilarious lol
I really love Lower Decks.
What if the Cerritos had a "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode? Aka. The Cerritos time travel to an episode of a previous Star Trek show. You know what I think could be perfect? They time travel to Star Trek TAS, replicating the original Filmation "animation" of the 70's.
I would LOVE to see that! 😂😂
that actually doesnt seem half bad. im all for this lmao
Considering a recent announcement this year... We are getting a cross-over episode with Strange New Worlds.
Oh boy have I got good news for you!
small detail, but I thought it was funny that they gave the phaser a *gun cock* sound at 2:28
You know the whole thing with Mariner wanting to be top shelf member of the lower decks reminds me of the Turians and how once someone finds a good place where they do good work in the military that's celebrated.
Not everyone feels the need or want to advance so far in such a competitive career, I suppose. Finding the spot where you fit best among the gears is something worth celebrating, even if that spot is not the top.
@@Timeward76 it just sucks whenever a system gives less compensation than you can live off of for a full time job, just because it isn't management. Starfleet at least is utopic enough the ensigns still live pretty well
This show surprised me. Not a Trek fan but damn this show is fun XD
0:18 "How big is this thing?"
"Oh, about the size of a california."
“Come on baby, give Rutherford the juice!” Is I think my favorite line from this sequence, which is saying something since there are so many good lines.
I just started watching lower decks, man this is so good. and I think Mariner can be a very good captain.
I can’t even imagine the ear ache being in that room would cause
Lower Decks needs to be on CBS television Saturday mornings!
Whats that?
@@TehF0cus an archaic form of television broadcasts.
You can watch it on Saturday mornings anytime you want 😃
@@TheMrPeteChannel hey, are you calling my ancient childhood archaic?
@@Slopmaster archaic means ancient!
Just realised the phaser makes a cocking noise when she pulls it out lol
Best Ensign....?Welcome to REd DWarf! Hello Lister!
Rimmer!
@@yseson_ Dear Lord there are two of them now!
The Q must evacuate the universe!
@Tin Watchman
"Yes Sir,. Yes Sir!"
JUmp for the mice!
@Tin Watchman
"Yes sir!" Yes sir!" jump high for the little mice!
I don’t even think those two were is it enlisted or commissioned officers mariner and boimler are at least ensigns.
I am very aware that at this point Bridges have a massive window for a viewscreen purely out of spite for the people who hated it in the in the Kelvin movies. And I'm ok with that. Double down, Kurtzman. Own that shit, man.
Bridges having actual windows for viewscreen isn't even a bad idea, tactical-wise. If the viewscreen fails entirely, it means you can still see outside and have at least one thing to still be able to navigate by. Even in modern day, ship bridges are exposed instead of buried deep in the hull's armor because situational awareness is worth more than anything else. Can you imagine the nebula battle in Wrath of Khan if they could actually just look out through the inactive viewscreen to see?
@@Timeward76 The combat information center (CIC) of many Navy warships is located below the main deck and is not located in the main bridge. That might change if modern radars can be defeated by new technology, but that's where they track threats, targets, and issue commands to fire weapons. It's kinda like a starship bridge split in two, one for the helm, the other for tactical.
@@MMuraseofSandvich I think it is not entirely correct to compare a federation starship to any warship. They dont make warships after all :P
But the bigger starships in starfleet do in fact have a secondary bridge, or "battle bridge" as is sometimes called. Theyre just not commonly used because the normal bridge is often good enough for most things, and starfleet is rarely anticipating battle. When they DO anticipate battle, the battle bridge does come in handy. But given that the main bridge is usually the one used for most things, having an actual window I'd still a tactical trade off.
@@Timeward76Isn't the battle bridge just on the Galaxy class, and only really used for flying the drive section when they split the ship?
Captain Ramsey had british accent
I really enjoyed the video and hope thee we show last for many years
2:19 I’m gonna say it......
“I can do that!”
Good stuff
"NOT TODAY, SNOT!"
Nika: it so hard for us not having to be there! I GET IN! oh thank goodness I didn’t see it until just after the Second Contact is finished! 😍😍😍
Mariner being her usual awesome, funny, sexy self.
(pause) happy hug 2:44
I dont want to say it was a continuity error but pulling a phaser moments before you suffocate or get blown into space is really telling about the character.
It made Boimler weird
You know I just realised, isn't it weird that Mariner actually went to the Academy at all? She seems like the enlist straightaway to get in space as fast as possible type.
I'm sure her parents insisted that she go to the Academy Besides, whether enlisted even exist in Star Trek is pretty unclear (the best explanation is that enlisted are only accepted in wartime and are sent home or to the Academy when the war ends).
@@billymanners9629 Actually starfleet always has enlisted personnel, Chief O'Brien is at the highest ranked enlisted officer rank for example. But you're definitely right about her parents.
Sometimes, you have people commission out of pressure, when all along they should have been NCOs.
@@johnmccarron7066 Yeah, so she would have been Chief Mariner, sounds good
that alien its from that ep of Enterprise it just dawened on me
Oh yeah, a Rigelian, i see! I was wondering what that was!
You mean the monster living inside the walls?
It kind of looks like it, but they behave differently.
It's from the first episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, actually - WAY earlier!
Did that transparent aluminum window just shatter like glass?
The reason it was shatter in real life they just plot device but in universe because pressure of the breaking ship was too strong
Honestly, this show is better than it has the right to be. I love it.
Nika: what is this in the escape!?
He rescued them from an electric hentai
At ease ladies will take It from here!
But it would be nice to see Boimler get a moment of heroism. Not because he's a male, but because it would be nice to see capability in him.
@@DavidBDavis-lz7bt Like the "But I got a Phaser!"-moment in episode 3? The episode where Boimler excels at his tasks when everybody else cannot cope with the workload? And then is the one that actually talks the captain out of that timing-nonsense?
upon rewatching this action sequence captain Ramsey sounds like her voiceactor has a cold or something. like everytime she raises her voice a little its about to break
A core problem with any organisation is promoting people beyond their competence.
Ego notwithstanding, it's better to promote around the different sections of a level of responsibility, broadening experience and knowledge. Promotion should never be a popularity contest, or based upon people being impressed. That's how we get all these psychoes and liars in politics.
Anyone else think the Vulcan and the Trill had a thing?
I don't know why, but I'd like to see that ship sail.
What species is the black haired guy with the purplish skin
Rigelian. They were first (and last) seen in Enterprise.
Wasn't mariner running her own ship.? I think one episode mentioned she used to be a captain.
Wait I thought the federation stop putting civilians in their ships
During the Dominion War? Yeaaah. Definitely. Especially front-line vessels (and they were pretty much ALL Front-line vessels, especially after the Breen orbital-struck Earth that one time).
This is post-Nemesis though, and Starfleet has shown a (marginal) return to a pre-war status. The padded grey/black uniforms are out, in favour of the less-agressive more colourful fair, and people are joining back up to Explore, not to Defend/Fight-the-Dominion.
Also, the Cerritos isn't a front-line ship by design or mission. The California-class starships are support vessels in function and the Cerritos is outfitted as a second-contact vessel...so lots of diplomatic and technical-uplift/support duty with a side of good ol'sciencing and mapping, as it picks up the slack and left-overs made by the battlecruiser/explorers like the Galaxy or the Sovereign or even Nebula, Akira, and the handful of venerable centenarian Excelsiors that managed to survive through the big DW and Borg attacks.
The Cerritos herself is probably getting a bit into her years of design relevance, as the California class seems to have a mostly TNG-era Galaxy-stylized features...Akira-esq, at the latest, based on the nacelles. Design wise, the California-class has details that could point to it being a protodesign for the Steamrunner, with the raised wedge on after Saucer section and the compact stardrive/main-deflector section between the nacelles....just cut off a chunk of the saucer's forward parts and chuck the pylons in favour of integrating the front half of the nacelles and bussard collectors into what's left...and viola. Steamrunner.
Anybody notice the Blonde chick with the pointed ears? Daughter of Seela maybe?
Doubt that Starfleet was recruiting Romulans at this time.
@@gedias1 Maybe she defected.
So wait are all the kids on the ship dead now? Because that would be super dark
Since when do military ships have children on board?
@@monsterhunter66 since the Enterprise D galaxy class in Startrek the next generation in like 1987 and Starfleet isn’t strictly military it’s more like NASA and the navy
Only the Galaxy class had full families on it.
I forget how this episode worked. Wouldn't it just have been faster to just transport them all rather than waiting for Rutherford to run all the way to the transporter room?
Why does Amina sound exactly like agent 22/ Mrs beakly
How old is Mariner? Her classmate made captain; are they old or young? Captains in the US Navy are usually in their 40's before getting the call. Although the Abrams reboot had cadet Kirk being given the Flag Ship Enterprise, passing over every other captain and commander in Star Flight. I enjoy Lower Decks. I enjoyed the reboot eventhough the cadet to captain bit was totally improbable.
Mariner has been demoted. And this is post dominion war and post Wolf 359. So lots of new ship, not a lot of senior bridge crew. So competent people get promoted quickly. I think Mariner had a burnout episode, and now just doesn't want the responsibility to be in charge anymore. Her personality is still to take charge but she doesn't want the responsibility.
Evidence seems to point to Mariner being in her early to mid-30s. My guesses to everyone's age are: Freeman: 55-60, Ransom: 35-40, Shaxs: 55-60, Billups: 35-40, T'ana: Not enough clues yet, acts like a burnt-out 45-year-old trauma doc though; Mariner: 30-35; Rutherford: 26-30; Boimler: 23-24; Tendi: 22-23.
In TOS, Kirk was only in his early-30's. Granted, he was acknowledged as being young for a captain, especially of what was at the time a top-of-the-line starship. But Starfleet does seem to reward talent and accomplishments without getting too hung up over age. Mariner acts like a college student, but she's obviously much older considering the long list of adventures she can rattle off. I'd guess that she's at least 30.
@@redactedrider7606 Boimler made a wrong assumption and she didn't bother to correct him until now (he may not have voiced it until now). The youngest captain in Starfleet history (Tryla Scott) was 28 when she took command of the USS Renegade. So that is a hard lower limit on Mariner's age. She's at LEAST five to six years older than Boimler and more likely 10 years older.
@@katherineberger6329 nog from ds9 was around 22 years old when he made Lieutenant junior grade at the end of ds9 mariner must have entered Starfleet academy at around 16/17 years of age due to her being a military brat for lack of better term
How old is she I thought Brad said they were the same age? Did she get a head start in her career weasly crusher style?
*@Oldtaku_DD ~* In a broad sense, you are correct. *;)*
1. Yes, Ensigns Bradward Boimler and Beckett Mariner are the same age (according to Boimler), and therefore are also the same age as Captain Amina Ramsey (voiced by the lovely Toks Olagundoye).
2. The difference between Mariner and Boimler is that Mariner was *_born into_* Starfleet, similar to Wesley Crusher; unlike Boimler who (probably) enlisted at whatever age-minimum there is. Unlike Wesley, however, Beckett was raised with Starfleet from an early age (how early has not been specified yet); as opposed to Wesley starting in his late teens. This *_early_* start (rather than a "head" start), combined with her natural talent(s) for Starfleet work, is why Mariner is so proficient in many fields, and also why Mariner has far more field-experience than Boimler.
Think of Mariner like Jack Reacher. Reacher was born into the military, raised in the military, trained in a wide-array of military skills since childhood, and (field-)experienced military life as his father (Captain Stan Reacher) moved from posting to posting, all long before Reacher was of-age to be formally enlisted. Thus why Reacher as a character is a _plausible_ badass, especially when it comes to dealing with the military.
Unlike Reacher, who left the military, Mariner _remains_ in Starfleet despite her frustrations with some of the rules, protocols, politicking, and even her parents; because Starfleet-life is all Mariner has known, and cannot imagine being anywhere else (also in addition to Mariner still believing in Starfleet's nobler ideals). The positive-strength of Mariner's character is that she is working to find her own way and place in Starfleet, at her own pace, not letting anyone/anything dictate her path.
Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
I want this to be a running joke where she has like a flashback to the Enterprise A or something
Some are specualting Boimler could have been a later in life member of Starfleet. Like a non-trad in college. This is why he's focused and sure he's doing what he's supposed to.
My buddy said the air force would take him till he was 38... so there is real life precedent.
Just because he thinks it doesn't make it true. I'm going to presume an age gap unless I see on screen proof.
Based on her parent's appearances alone she's at least early 30's, which syncs up with a few other things seen so far.
@@Vipre- ~ Not sure if your Reply meant me or *@patsfreak,* but just to (friendly) cover bases... *:)*
1. *_'On-screen'_** ~* Boimler remarks how he and Mariner are the same age during [1x02; "Envoys"], unable to understand how Mariner has so much more field-experience than him (thus the "according to Boimler" part in my earlier Reply-comment). The exact point, I do not recall off-handedly. _{I >think< it was when they were wandering through the bazaar looking for their wayward Klingon general escort? Right now I am too weary to look it up at the moment (coming off a Graveyard Shift of work); if I feel/remember the urge to do so, I may Edit-update this Reply later.}_
2. Captain Ramsey and Mariner are of the same Starfleet class-generation; so, obviously, they are the same age as well; which is the central point of Ramsey's character for this episode's [1x07] story. Ramsey's story-role in this episode is for character-contrast, to show *_"What Could Have Been",_* had Mariner followed the Path of Ambition/Promotions after Starfleet Academy, as everyone expected Mariner to do. ("We all thought you'd be the first captain from our class.")
3. I think 30's age-bracket may be too far. The Lower Decks crew are meant to be the thematic opposite(s) of the Senior Officers, so they are probably much more youthful (especially Tendi, who is the _"Kid"_ [character theme] of the Lower Decks cast), probably in the _"Young Adult"_ range (whatever that may be in the ST:TNG era).
Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
Yet another disaster that could have been avoided by keeping a bucket of paint on the bridge.
1:44 looking back on the pakled insident, she probably would have saved more people by just letting her die
She dies in space
The Captain of the Rubidoux, HOW HOW did that craven coward get promoted to Captain a ship.
Well, as much as Starfleet likes to pretend that it's a meritocracy, we've seen many times that it's still a bureaucracy. A Sci-Fi bureaucracy, but still one nonetheless. There's still corruption, favoritism, nepotism, and all the usual problems that plague military and government organizations. The Captain of the Rubidoux must have been good at playing politics or knew the right people.
There have been plenty of captains in real life who were good enough during the everyday tasks and did well enough in exercises but turned out to be completely unsuited in an extreme situation. Most airline-pilots never have to make an actual crash-landing so we don't know if they can do it outside a simulator.
To be fair, you’re talking about the someone being the captain of one of these California-class ships. Aside from the general Star Fleet danger of space work, they don’t appear to see a lot of important action or roles. So it would not be the first time in history that someone was just competent enough (with enough time in service) to obtain the rank but placed in a situation where they couldn’t cause too much trouble.
They make literally everyone to a captain. Just look at Star Trek Online.
Oh my god they gave her a brand new ship and she got it destroyed and everyone killed
The amount of petty, entitled little neckbeards in this comment section DESPERATELY still trying to say this shows is terrible is pretty epic lolz.
Haters gotta hate. It helps them get through the day
Is it me or does captain Ramsey sounds awfully like La`an of "Strange New Worlds". Did Christina Chong ever do any voice acting?
That other captain strangely sounds like Daisy Ridley from the Non-Existent Star Wars Movies
1:50 she's holding on with both arms, then she pushes the button WHILE STILL HOLDING ON WITH BOTH ARMS!
When did she grow a third hand?
Won't transparent aluminium bend rather than shattering like a wine glass?
The transparent aluminium hav never do that
I thought that was just a view screen, not a window to be honest.
Need the drama!
@@shadowhunter0815 they even refer to it as a video screen in TNG
The writers often seem to forget that it's transparent aluminum and not some kind of glass.
I read a few commentaries here that speak about unwillingness to take on responsibilities and command.
Humility is admirable but consider that you might be talented and that people want to promote you on merit not dumping more work on you.
Also consider that maybe the next person who is in line for that promotion is just willing to gain the fame or the benefits of the promotion, but they have no experience leading people. Are you willing to let your fellow crewmates die following the orders of someone who was less capable than you?
The ship's captain is the basic example, you can tell that she was not ready for that responsability yet she got it because people like Mariner didn't want the responsability.
As a result she get her ship and crew members killed and Mariner got to sleep in and do her Robin hood.
The series could have said something about lack of willingness to take command and the consequences of those actions but it choose to just turn Boimler blue and a weird Dog Thing parody...
Sometimes this show had some great ideas that it has to scrap for the sake of jokes... and it's sad.
Love your videos but you could really do without that Outro.
BOIM US OUT OF HERE!
I thought this was a Rick and Morty episode for a second
Actually even closer to Final Space.
"Why can't I be a super-great Ensign[?" - Because that's not how rank works girl... If you actually paid attention in class. You'd Understand this!
There is such a thing as finding a level you're comfortable at. Sure, you might have the capacity and skills required to rise through the ranks, but you might also find you really enjoy the dynamic and responsibilities of a rank somewhere in the middle or bottom.
If you're missing Star Trek, I invite Trekkers, just Google Star Trek Lost Destiny.
If youre missing star trek, watch lower decks
@@airrider-jk9ik Some Trekkers may want more than Lower Decks. If Lower Decks is good for you, I wish you the best. I hope you enjoy it.
@@hemaccabe4292 fair, i really am enjoying, i think its a very impressive feat to make a comedy trek that works, im glad they kept the trek feel in the same way disco and picard did, and to be honest, its the better version of rick and morty
@@airrider-jk9ik Then I wish you the best. Sometime, when you want something to read, maybe Lost Destiny will work for you, look it up. If it doesn't work for you, well, it didn't cost you any more than clicking on a link, www.fanfiction.net/s/13312963/1/Star-Trek-Lost-Destiny-Book-I-Race-of-Death
Shes perfect. Everyone know shes perfect. Why cant she just be a "party girl" ?
Poor her ?
She's not perfect and they show it. It's likely that watching a shape-changing Alien murder her friend and other incidents have really messed with her head.
@@WeAreTheBentusi Locutus of the Borg
@@mauddib7830 Yes, and Picard nearly left Starfleet afterwards. So trauma can negativity impact a Starfleet officer.
.see Mat Decker
@@WeAreTheBentusi Almost isn't the same as being allowed to underperform.
That's the problem. Mariner likes the kinds of adventures that she can have in Starfleet because she's an adrenaline junkie. But she hates responsibility and rules, so she tries to stay an ensign. Which wouldn't be a problem if she didn't also demand the kind of respect that senior officers get. She wants the perks, but not the job itself.
Was certain I wasn't going to enjoy this show from all the negativity around it. But then I watched it and yeah, it's got some rough edges and some underhanded themes of misandry, etc but compared with STD and Picard, this isn't half bad. I'm into it.
The negativity surrounding this show is HIGHLY overstated and frankly, not particularly deserved, I’d say.
Die hard Trekkies need to lighten up
Not as much misandry as some easily-triggered people claim. For example, in "Temporal Edict", Ransom was shown to be every bit as much of a badass as he acts like. As opposed to being a bumbling meathead who's all talk.
Misandry my ass. Where?
@@alphanerd7221 Nowhere that I'm aware of. Might be as idiotic as Mariner being Mariner, just at a male of some sort, regardless of context. There's a hate machine running around the internet these days, and they seize on anything they can to hate on something.
This show sucks
Lower Decks shits all over the lore
keep quiet
No, it doesn’t. It’s honestly true to the spirit of Trek and if anything has expanded on the lore.
Wait, what's going on in this episode? Do we get us a SECOND Mariner... with a British accent at that?? Like one wasn't enough; and wasn't annoying enough?
*@Leonid Andreev...*
1. Captain Amina Ramsey is voiced by the lovely *Toks Olagundoye* (Nigerian actress, British educated), who has played many _"strong female"_ roles (live and voiced). Her current notable (voice) role is that of the formidable Mrs. Beakley, for the rebooted DuckTales (2017 series).
2. Captain Ramsey's presence/role in this episode [1x07] is meant to be for *character-contrasts...*
- a.) Captain Ramsey, being the same age, high-skilled competence, & Starfleet Academy class-generation as Mariner, is meant to show *_'What Could Have Been',_* had Mariner followed the path to promotions and Officer-ship (-hood?) after graduating from Starfleet Academy, as everyone (Mariner's friends, classmates, & parents) had expected Mariner to do.
- b.) As Captain Ramsey admits, she *_deliberately_* took the boring assignment to "babysit" the USS Cerritos, with the ulterior motive to try to recruit Mariner over to the USS Oakland and make Mariner her XO (Executive Officer) there. However, Ramsey's hidden agenda was done with *_good_* intentions, stemming from her close Friendship with Mariner. From her perspective, Ramsey was unable to comprehend Mariner's inexplicable loss of career-motivation and -ambition after graduating with top-marks at Starfleet Academy; of which, Mariner also helped Ramsey to excel at Starfleet Academy (despite the duo being mischief makers), which led to Ramsey's own (early) Captaincy. Simply put, Ramsey was trying to help her friend Mariner, *_"get back on track."_*
Hope this helps clarify. *:)*
@@pendrake40 I figured it was something along these lines. But thank you for a detailed and serious reply. (I feel like they went a little overboard with the fact that she's already a captain. Making her a lt. commander would have been enough to make a point, of how much of an overachiever she is - and just how bad of a screwup ensign Mariner is, by contrast...)
@@leonidandreev1171 ...
3. *_>Captain< Ramsey_** ~* Nah, Ramsey 'had' to be a Captain for this episode [1x07].
- a.) What was understated (and therefore easy to miss) was that Ramsey only made Captain very recently. This was a secondary factor to why Ramsey was attempting to recruit Mariner to be her XO (Ramsey still needed one), in addition to her ulterior (but well-meant) motives.
- b.) Ramsey also needed to be a Captain in order to have the authority to 'poach' Mariner from the USS Cerritos to the USS Oakland. Not because Captain Freeman would resist the transfer (probably the opposite, given the current mother-daughter conflicts between Freeman vs. Mariner), but because Mariner would not be able to (legally) oppose it; even if Mariner were desperate enough to appeal to Captain Freeman to countermand such.
4. *_Mariner vs. Ramsey_** ~* Mariner is _NOT_ a screw-up, very much the opposite. The 'trick' is that Mariner _KNEW_ (or more accurately, figured it out very early-on) that Ramsey was there to try to make Mariner her XO (a job Mariner did not want); however, Mariner also knew Ramsey's ulterior motives/agenda was earnestly well-intentioned. So Mariner was *_>acting
Now there are 2 of them! This is getting out of hand!
@@TheMrPeteChannel ...
- "Bradward, Kurtzman and his _'Modern Trek'_ is evil!"
- "From my point of view, the Roddenberry Treks are evil!"
*;p*
God the animation and artstyle is bad lol
probably chosen because of Rick & Morty or Final Space.
It’s not THAT bad.
I actually like it. The characters are cartoonish because this is a comedy, but the overall visuals, especially the starships, are very nice.
If I wanted a Star Trek spoof, I'd watch The Orville. This show is nothing but a cavalcade of garbage.
@Mwhurst391 hey every now and again we have to come and try and stop you people from eating shit and calling it spaghetti.
Elite20001 Nobody fucking asked for your crusade.
Pizza dude Lower Decks rocks, this post makes you look like a plonker
@@Amargosa2006 just go back to eating shit somewhere else you fucking loser
The Orville a spoof ? Lol, get your brain out of your ass dude.
I really dislike this episode because it cemented that Mariner was a Mary Sue.
Well that's stupid. She fails often, has personality flaws, and a background that shows why she is a badass, and when her male boss trash talks her, and physically assaults her, not only does he deliver on his promise to be physically dominant, she wants to have sex with him over it.
You are aware, surely, that EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER in Star Trek is a Mary Sue at some point. Every last one.
That's just how they wrote the show back in the day. Only recently have writers allowed the idea that our heroes have character flaws. That's a recent thing, ok?
I am disgusted by this
Hello captain kirk
I hate that this is what passes for star trek.
This is the most legitimately Trek thing of the past fifteen years, so I am not sure why
@@ClickBeetleTV yeah keep eating shit and calling it spaghetti. Your why star trek sucks so much they are out to please the lowest common denominator and that is you...
Please this is tons better than STD or STP!
@@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain that's like saying herpies is great to have... compared to aids.
Let me guess you're one of those toxic tweeter user people who use insults and non stop whining instead of being logical
The best of modern Trek. Enjoy the fifth season 🥲...
Soooooo that's the other half of Beckett's back story she was near tricked into getting a bum job due too her best friend who talks like Minnie driver by which I mean 🇬🇧 yes ok thank u n judging by the others impersonating ghost 2:42 I🤔☺ assume this is the same ep that started wit boliemer
Minnie Driver?! 😮 I thought it was Daisy Ridley! 😅