The Rings of Power Teaser: A Whole Lot of Nothing
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Imagine doing a WW2 story and having to meet diversity quotas for the German army.
I would love to see a transgender black lady scream "seig hail"
What experience do these hipsters have about war, they don’t even know what tactical thinking is
@@metatron748 way too late, Uwe Boll did Bluberella
@@arbhall7572 The first Attack of the Killer Tomatoes movie had a master of disguise (who was black) dressed as Schicklgruber... and one of the other characters immediately tries to attack him, completely fooled.
Bwahahaha!
People don't think this flopping will matter but this has a $500 million budget, this is the most expensive single piece of media ever made.
If this bombs, the entire Hollywood model will change drastically.
This backlash is necessary.
And Amazon absolutely deserves every single criticism. They chose to follow the WOKENESS, and as you all know, that means going BROKE!
I really hope there is backlash
Good point man! If it does flop, the producers will shrug it off publicly, but privately I bet a lot of people will get fired
God I hope you’re right
Endgame and its budget is cheaper to a grocery bill in comparison to this show's budget?
@i told u reported spaming kid
To complain "where's my black representation in The Lord of the Rings?" is as ridiculous as it would be to complain "where's my white representation in Black Panter?". Absolutley no one had an issue with Black Panter being all black, or Mulan being all asian - because obviosly that's how it's suppose to be! (The cast being asian was the only thing the live action Mulan did right). But as soon as it's a story about people ispired by celtic and norse origin (therefore, white) - then it's racist! It makes me so tired.
Yeah but see, that's what it's all about to these people. To them, "diversity" doesn't actually mean diversity, to them "diversity" just means fewer white people, or if possible, no white people.
If you recognize all of their lunacy as coming from a place of hatred specifically for white people, then all of their contradictions and lunacies make sense. Because that's where every piece of it comes from. That's why white people like me are the only race of people in the world who aren't "allowed" to have a culture, history, heritage or even a damn identity. The only race against whom it's perfectly acceptable to be as hateful and abusive toward and to discriminate against as much as anyone wants. The only race that can be "racist", the only race no one else can be "racist" against, no matter what they do to us. The only race that can be accused of "cultural appropriation", the only race that can't have our own cultures "appropriated" because we're told we don't even have a culture. The only race not "allowed" any sense of pride or self respect, any sense of pride in our great ancestors or their mighty achievements, no home or country or community of our own, and no ability to take any action at all for the well being of our own people or for the future of our own children. Because as soon as any of us try to do any of these things that are encouraged in all the other races of people in the world, we are labeled "white supremacists" and "far right extremists" and "fascist neonazis" etc.
But as bad as all of that is, the absolute worst part of it is seeing so many other white people out there, especially white women who seem to be particularly prone to the brainwashing, who actually support and applaud and cheer on all that hatred and discrimination against themselves and their own people. For the first time in all of human history right now, there are people in the world who fully support the discrimination against, extermination of, and replacement of their own people. Anti white white people are the lowest, most pathetic and embarrassing thing in this world.
What's even funnier, female dwarves have beards. Their beards are curlier than the males is how you tell, other than that that's why you can piss off a dwarf by asking about their women. You may be talking to one, they aren't remotely human, people forget that.
Anglo-Saxon, not Celtic or Norse.
@@matthew6732 well Norse dwarves we're twisted grey skinned mutants, or were described as such but the Aesier and the vanir, pardon I can't spell at the moment. I always pegged them like dueurgar from DND personally. Actually not familiar with Celtic dwarves, if you'd care to elaborate.
I loved the design of the elves in Jackson's movies. Ethereal, vaguely Oriental with an almost European Renaissance feel, everything built in with Nature. Sleek, graceful, elegant. A sublime beauty of a bygone age.
That's it exactly! In the 'Lord of the Rings' books, elves are very much clearly not a part of the world as we know it, as typified by their frequent longings to return over the seas to their true home. We know that they are leaving - all of them - and that the world in which we remain will be a somewhat lesser place because of it. I don't think that tone can possibly be combined with a gritty, hardscrabble hero like they're trying to create in Galadriel. Elves are more creatures that dirt and evil CANNOT stick to.
"bygone" is right
This Amazon series will make THE HOBBIT trilogy, look like the LOTR trilogy.
I always did say that there would come a time when people would reassess the Hobbit films XD
Exactly my thoughts. At least the girl elf in that one was forgettable
If we had stopped them with the "LOTR" trilogy, we could have stopped this whole trend. If we had told them YOU SHALL NOT PASS" with changes to the source material, we could have ended the woke trend before it took hold.
I thought The Hobbit trilogy was good. I don’t understand why it got scorned.
Well at least the people behind the Hobbit actually LIKED Tolkien and his work. A lot of the problems were due to executive meddling and switching up directors who have VERY different styles.
The writers actually admitted that they don't have the rights to the Simarillion so it makes perfect sense
Yup, they have to make a lot of stuff up because they dont have the rights to anything that would be a good story.
Thank the holy hand of Eru Ilúvatar, they don’t have it because that’s effectively like in my opinion the Holy text of Tolkien’s work
You can’t touch it it stays how it’s always been the first age can’t be touched
@Know One They are making about second age, Silmarillion is the first age.
The Silmarillion is essentially an encyclopedia of the Tolkien universe. There are tons of names an events, but no actual stories to work with. Can you write a film based on the Encyclopedia Britannica? I don't think so.
@@MegaMaxiepad Yes you can. You have the setting, just write a story using it.
I’m black too. Been obsessed with elves as a concept my whole life. I always loved the way they were depicted in LOTR because they really come off as a seperate, more ancient race than humans. Also they’re not human, so why would elves, that have remained the same for tens of thousands of years suddenly develop mutations that lead to dark skin. Also would that be a Dark Elf? Or naw? Fucking woke shit makes me wanna barf.
The only way it would make sense is if the black elves and black dwarves maybe fled from Far Harad and integrated with the Northern and Western elves and dwarves quite recently? I know it's not canon, but if they specify that in the show then at least they tried to make it make sense but I don't think they will bother trying to make anything make sense, hah. They will just call us all racist for questioning it. But honestly how would a dwarf get that rich mahogany brown skin living deep under the ground in caves for hundreds of years?? It makes no sense!
I'm sorry though everything else aside I just can't get past Elrond's hair, lol. Where did he get a blow-dryer to get that style?? :p
@@Vexarax that’s just what I hope they do. But knowing the people making it, I doubt they have read up enough of the lore to even know they could justify it easily with some easy to setup exposition if they don’t wanna straight up give us an arc explaining it. But likely they’ll just be shoehorned in with no explanation and anyone who acts like that isn’t weird as fuck will be ridiculed by the ravenous ghouls of twitter.
So, in the First Age there was Eol the "Dark Elf"... and no, he wasn't called that because he was black. He was called that because he was a little edge-lord. There was no branch of "Dark Elves" either, all Elder Scrolls style, literally just Eol in the First Age. And he was of the Sindar anyway.
That may be from where they've misconstrued that idea. But also, considering we're meant to be in the Second Age, I don't know they're placing so much emphasis on the Elves; I feel like Numenor should be taking up more of the spotlight. But the rings were forged by an Elf, so I guess that's reason enough.
It’s because bro, THEY are so racist they insist that we are are. Dude, whatever happened to a decent story? Sick of being told you hate me and I hate you and the only way to rectify I wrong doings is to insert race into EVERYTHING.
GTFO
ELves, like many creatures in middle earth, were literally shaped by god. Maybe he just made some black ones. It aint that deep
“It felt only natural to us that an adaptation of Tolkien’s work would reflect what the world actually looks like.”
- Lindsey Weber, E.P. Amazon's LOTR Series, Vanity Fair (Feb. 2022)
"There are certainly themes Tolkien felt were important. We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. What we were trying to do was to analyse what was important to Tolkien and to try to honour that. In a way, were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves."
- Peter Jackson, Interview with GreenCine (Dec. 2002)
Yeah cause I really want to watch a fantasy show about this world. I watch Fantasy to escape this world.
@@dh7192 But there is no escaping this world. If you leave the fight to hide behind fantasy then you leave the world to those still fighting for it. In a sense, these people, the wokes, they are in their own fantasy world, but they are still fighting to make it happen. Their safespaces are not places they go to hide from people, they're the imposition of their strengh. Avoid the world and it'll eat you alive, face the predator and that's when you'll get a chance to survive.
@@jello195 my friend I just stating that I do.not want to watch a show with political issues. I can watch that else where.
@@dh7192 And I'm just stating that everything is deeply political. The marxist were already criticizing LOTR when it came out see:
czcams.com/video/v3bD2VupMCQ/video.html
In politics everything is define by enemies and allies. By being apolitical you stop opposing resistance to those who disagree with your politics, therefore leaving them lots of space to act and push to the new boundary. You need to stand your ground by acting, otherwise you implicitly agree. You cannot be neutral and your entertainement cannot either. Either there is two sexes or there is a spectrum of genders, either race doesn't matter or it does, either there is free speech or there is not. Hiding behide the I want neutral entertainement just breaks you power to influence the type of entertainement you want and lets those who are not entertained the same way you are change the nature of the content.
It works the same way as a burglar going in you neighbor's home. You can say "this doesn't concern me, all I what is to eat and go to sleep in my house, plus my neighbor is a dick anyways" but in the end by not helping the neighbor you assist the burglar and furthermore you are making the neighborhood unsafe, which affects you because it diminishes the value of your own house and it makes you more susceptible to be the victim of a burglar as this one was not apprehended so he'll do it again but it also sends a signal to would be burglar that in this neighborhood it is ok, bring hesitant burglar into burglary in your neighborhood.
In the same fashion, you wishing for neutral intertainement is you saying I don't want my values in what I watch, I want no specific value. With no opposing force the woke will then go in the enternaiment and act. Stop complaining, create radically opposed content and let the number talk. You wanna passively watch whatever is on tv (netflix/amazon/apple etc.) then you get what you deserved.
Hi. Reflecting the real world to a Fantasy world could be awesome to watch. Read League of Legends.
What kills me most about this, is how sterile and clean everything looks. From the costumes to the setpieces, it looks like a generic, lower-grade Syfy TV production. Tolkien described a world that distanced itself from the path of God and the powers in it were in a slow decline. This looks nothing like that.
Nobody is talking about the AWFUL music in this trailer. WTF!!??
While I agree.
This is set like 4000 years before Lord of the rings.
@@kp-legacy-5477 Yea, and it takes place before the forging of the Great Rings so the decline either hasn't started yet or is still in its beginning stages, so it makes a certain amount of sense that everything looks "newer" than in LOTR or even The Hobbit.
And that's about the _only_ positive thing that I can say they got right about this, even then it seems to be more "by accident" than any sort of intentional choice.
@@kri249 To be real, the Scifi(cause that's what it was called then) version of Dune wasn't bad, so that's kind of a bad example.
It'd be more like going from Stargate to the low-budget parody in SG-1 called Wormhole X-Treme or whatever.
@@kp-legacy-5477 their would still be dirt!!!!
"Whereas Melkor spent his energy in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others; and all their works he destroyed if he could." - Excerpt from "Valaquenta" by J.R.R. Tolkien.
Oh, what a pleasure to finally see a real Tolkien quote and not the made up stuff that most people use these days 😍
Sums up this video.
this needs to be pinned
Finally, an actual quote. Jfc the prime channel teaser comments are embarrassing.
How horrifically accurate
I can't wait for this show to come out. Not because I'm looking forward to watching it or any such nonsense, but because I can't wait for the reviews from Drinker, Thorias, and JSG.
I have my waterproof slicker ready for the bloodbath!
I'm getting ready for the EFAP
98% of all viewers that will watch this show would not have read books nor will they know the Lore... they won't care how accurate the show is to Tolkien's lore ...they will enjoy the well-produced show that probably will look kick-arse even though not accurate to Tolkiens writing ... that's the sad truth...
@@Berndr I am less sure about that. Once they start doing things like time compression, they'll have to improvise. A lot. And once they do, the story quality would depend mostly on their writing rather than Tolkien's.
And don't forget Pitch Meeting!
Ian McKellen came to my Highschool once to talk to us about gay rights and how hard it was for him growing up as a gay man back in the day, because a girl at our school sent him a letter. He stood on the little stage in our small hall and shouted "YOU SHALL NOT PASSS!!" In maybe the loudest voice I've ever heard. Needless to say we all lost our shit, and we all basically just asked him a load of questions about LOTR.. 🤣 I got to talk to him for about two minutes, and I asked him which Gandalf he preffered, and who his favourite characters in the books were. He told me that Gandalf the Grey was his favourite because he had less power and a more humble personality, which made him more human, and he told me Sam was by far his favourite character because he was a selfless friend and in his opinion the real hero of the story. I shook the mans hand after that and will never forget that day. 🤣
I've always love it when people nerd out and rant about the things they care about. Just Some Guy is probably one of the best ones to listen to
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“If you don’t wanna follow the lore then ya should’ve made your own story” FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!!
People have been saying that, for years.
Myself included.
It's a weird cycle because the reason they choose IP that already exists is to get an automatic customer base for their product. But they disappoint those customers by not giving them an authentic experience. Yet if they had made their own series, no one would even begin to watch their no-name series. Seems it's better to scam real fans out of their money than make an original product worth something in itself. We need some people with real grit and guts like Peter Jackson who actually care about the IP they are trying to sell. Only the heart of a fan can touch the heart of another fan when the original author is out of the picture.
@@user-jv8zo3wl1q I getcha, for example, street fighter: the legend of chin-li vs. Street fighter: Assassins fist, one knocked it outta the park and will be remembered by street fighter fans, maybe even go so far as to get new comers interested in the main games and it’s other media, while the other ... just happened, Power rangers: the movie vs. that power rangers movie, one knew who it was out the gate and stuck to that, the other, for fans, just dropped the ball from casting, to Zords, to plot, heck a more recent example would be Uncharted, one was a short the other a full blown movie, and you can tell which one had a heart beating behind it, if it’s done by a fan or at the very least some who respects the material there working with the people who are fans of its source will feel that and respond in kind.
Hardcore fans said the same with lotr trilogy by peter Jackson
@@oscarchavezavellan2738 Don’t doubt it, when comes to a media transitioning from one form to another, there’s usually a bit of slimmed down, expand a bit or rely on some faith on the audience, such as the Peter Jackson films and the Power Ranger movie
When I was a child of 8 I first saw the Ralph Bakshi version of The Lord of the Rings I instantly fell in love with it I managed to get my mother to buy the trilogy the Silmarillion even the glossary and the Unfinished tales. I read it all inside and out from the hobbit to the trilology and the Silmarillion. The Bakshi version was far from perfect and incomplete but it held to the Tolkeinian spirit that it made you want to learn more. Years later when the Peter Jackson films came out I loved all three even with all the changes cause it still held to the Tolkeinian spirit. The movies had the power to get me to read the books. Both creators respected the lore thats what made them so successful.
I would have respected Tolkien's creation, respected the boundaries, took a page from The 13th Warrior, and I would have built the show around a Southron who gets separated from his war band/ship/etc. and is forced to make his way through Middle Earth to get back home, if possible. This would have let them cast a black lead, it would have introduced a character who would have shared our outsider perspective and given us an ideal perspective from which to view the events of that part of the Second Age, and it would have all been respectfully Tolkien-friendly. It would have been just as fan-fic as this Amazon shite, but it would have worked better in all ways.
...logic and reason in story telling? Nah, forget that, let's make black dwarves, because dwarfs would need melanin to protect their skin from the sun while toiling underground...
That would be forced as hell too. If you're going to do Lotr, do Lotr. If you want a 13th Warrior type story with a black lead, make something else.
The Rings of Power should use a theme song from the Return of the King: “It’s so easy not to try.”
@@justinamerican8200 and the one simp to rule them all and to lead them into darkness....
"Why does this 'Lord of the Rings' show have to be like Lord of the Rings?"
-People who worked on this show and claim they love LotR, probably
To be fair in the books Legolas was literally So light on his feet that while trotting on a blizzard’s worth of snow where everyone else was waist deep in the snow he wasn’t even leaving foot prints
In the Peter Jackson trilogy, if you look closely, while crossing the Misty Mountains, Legolas also walks on the snowy surface without breaking the snow.
Thank you. Well done. When I was 15 (a very long time ago), I was hospitalized. My throat closed up. Blah, blah, blah. My brother brought me a boxed set of the Hobbit and LOTR. I can still recall the smell of the paper as I turned the first pages. The maps held me in a trance as I studied them and compared them against the story again and again. I was enchanted with Middle Earth and have been ever since. I commend Peter Jackson for staying so faithful to Tolkien's mythology in the LOTR. Other words come to mind however, when I think of his treatment of the Hobbit (I couldn't make it past the first movie). I'll take a hard pass on The Rings of Power, sit back in my easy chair, and crack open that old boxed set, one more time.
Faitful? Thats not how I remember ... I was 25 at the time ... there was so much hate and protests, just few here: the idea that Glorfindel was being replaced with Arwen was an insult to the Tolkien Lore, Tom Bombadil cut out entirely as well as Old Forrest and Barrows down, Saruman in shire ending completely removed and rewritten... people thought it was a disaster at the time ... what most people seem to forget is how Tolkiens fun thought at the time Jackson butchered Elrond, Aragorn, Frodo , Denethor, nerfed Gandalf and particularly ruined Faramir who is one of the noblest characters in the book ... it is amazing how nowadays people think of these movies as faithful! I have a strong feeling most of the people first watched movies then when they read the book they had movie images in their head thus helping transition in seeing it as faithful... Even I who read books a decade before movies, can't see anymore Gandalf looking like anything else but as Ian Mckellen!
@Beri- I don’t recall many people being upset over TLOR. I was there. I was there over 20 years ago.
@@Berndr Sorry mate, don’t remember Jackson’s series getting that backlash at all. There were “a few” who weren’t entirely satisfied but that doesn’t compare to what is being discussed here, at all!
@@sweetcinnamonpnchkin haha!
@@lucko1979 that's because social media nor you tube have not existed at the time ... you could have easily missed it! I remember reading about it in 1999 ...even Facebook was not in action till 2004...
Amazon:
"We truly hope you enjoy our series"
Me: "just a fools hope"
Me to amazon: fool of a took, throw yourself in next time and rid us of your stupidity.
@@nicoleramos5964 This comment should be pinned to the top of the feed. well said lol xD
@i told u ... Wat da faq.
What is even the point of posting these links?
@@rednova2212 it's a spam bot
@@rednova2212 Report them for spam
“The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real things of its own" -J.R.R. Tolkien
"Evil cannot create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what was invented or created by the forces of good" -J.R.R. Tolkien
"Whereas Melkor spent his energy in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others; and all their works he destroyed if he could." -J.R.R. Tolkien
god quite it with the quotes! your making them look bad compared to this pile of shit
@@williamking1081 I think the quotes are just fine. They establish the nature of this Amazon shit show very perfectly.
@@williamking3301 omg you found your evil twin. Lol 😆 🤣
@@flynncushing7497 i had to double take to make sure the guy didnt reply to his own comment lmfao
@@williamking1081 well..
That's because the Amazon version IS BAD.
If it was any good it would be Respecting the Lore..
Funny thing about Lore in a work...
Even if you don't have the rights to tell its story, you can study it and keep what you are telling in line with it.
The only positive thing about this series is that it will make people like the Hobbit series more.
Hobbits wasn't that bad. The main "problem" with it is that like the book, it's really aimed for children and not for adults like LoTR.
@@Ounouh i woult part of the reason are the changes they did that werent in the book.
like the fucking romance jesus christ that was terrible.
@@MegaRedsword1 It was terrible. The last like 30-45 minutes of the 3rd one was all made up too
I don't mind them to be honest. The only one that felt legit bad was the third one. But after this garbage they are gonna have some star wars prequels / spiderman 3 type of renewed appreciation Im sure.
I don’t mind the Hobbit movies too much either. It had its moments
My father has been asking me if I'd like to watch this with him. He asked me the same thing about the Wheel of Time series, know how much I've enjoyed that story since first reading it back in high school. I was apprehensive, but watched the first episode with him.
I was livid within 15 minutes. I understand screen adaptations will be different than the books most of the time (thank you PJ for the LoTR trilogy... At this rate, it may be the only good one we get), but to add characters or change character dynamics to fit a message applicable to this day and age, and NOT the culture within the story itself?
It's shit tier writing and I'm sick of it. To see them likely doing it to the first stories I fell in love with in the genre (this being Tolkien's) is maddening. He went to such lengths to create seemingly real cultures and identities for his characters... And to see these woke pricks apparently butchering it because they feel its not "inclusive" enough is more than enough to make my blood boil.
100%
Wheel of time was agonizing to watch.. I honestly would have given this show more of a chance if not for how badly they demolished WOT
@@abbydyson2287 Forced diversity is one thing - but WoT wasn't bad because of diversity - it was bad because the actors were unconvincing (especially Rand).
I died when he just said “no” to the female dwarf
Haha brilliant!
I reckon they’ll make her a Harfoot hobbit married to the dwarf king and the black elf is a half-elf from his elf mother and Haradrim father.
That still wouldn’t make sense since half those species and people haven’t been discovered yet and that many cross breeds aren’t common, the most common are men and elf’s crossbreeding and it only happened like 2 times and that was before consequences were established and once more with Arwen and Aragorn
"I'm black, I can say it."
Dude, every single time you state that in your videos it makes my day.
I am white from EUROPE, and MAN love this video that Intelligent Blacks understand LORE and historical things connected to it.
Go man Fight them :D we will WIN and Amazon will loose
and really why should their own stupidity not be used against them?they always say black people can't be racist.so what if a black guy criticizes their "diversity".what they gonna do?call him racist?
@@PanzerShrek94 That's exactly what happens. Or, more commonly, "Uncle Tom".
Yeah! Say it!!
For those of us (mixed) who have been told we're not black enough...
I'm white, and I can say it, too! Stupid is as stupid does, and skin color does not matter. What must it feel like to be used as a racial/gender token in a series like this?
This is what happens when you listen to people who say "let's make something new, and anyone opposed to that are just afraid of change". I will never respect people who tarnish someone else's art as soon as they get ahold of it, especially when they do it as soon as Christopher Tolkien passed away.
Love your channel bro! Been subscribed for years! Just commenting for the algorythm.
Man, YOU should've been in charge of making this adaptation. You respect and love the lore more than anyone I know.
They already had Shippey. They sacked him. Tells you what they think about respecting the lore.
@@icecell JSG mentioned this in a previous video - looks like they've 'let go' of other Tolkien Lorephiles and are hiring the ones who want to "update" the lore. SMH
@@icecell It tells me nothing I don't already know; they don't give a damn about Tolkien's work.
Seriously, you and Gary need to have a whole podcast for you to just nerd out and explain the lore and stuff.
Also, my favourite part of this video? You're thorough and in depth criticism of the black dwarf. "NO!". Says everything you need to say. So happy we have guys like you, Gary and the FNT Fellowship to break down how all these franchises fail. You really do provide a lot of fascinating information for the casual fans, and I thank you for it.
who's gary?
@@exile0025 Nerdrotic
Excited by the news of its creation, then wary of the tidings of its production, now apt to just not watching. I'll just catch yours and Nerdrotics reviews, I believe. Thanks, JSG.
Deep down a part of me wants to believe this was the fault of Ion hazzikostas. lol i'm pretty sure they hired him to do the lore. :P
I was hoping JSG would spot and comment on the chains. : )
(The chains which have as little "weight" as the pull on that bow...).
Celebrimbor was kinda friendly with the dwarves, too, but enough to have what appear to be mushed-up dwarvish runes on their... bandoliers(?) (lol)
You, Sir, are a breath of fresh air. From one LOTR fan to another, from one rational (at least I hope that’s an adjective I can affix to myself…) mind to another, thank you.
This comment is so fucking cringey. "one rational mind to another". Christ, so pretentious
“Evil is not capable of creating anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” - J.R.R. Tolkien
Tolkien never said that. Congratulation.
@@Lorghitube Really now, he did not?
Feel free to explain this one then, because we either A) has a lot of avid fans quoting a faamous line from the author of the works they are lamenting the defilement of, or B) a nay-sayer claiming said author never said that..
SO UNLESS YOU GOT LITTLE MORE TO YOU THAN BLANKET DENIAL... I expect SOME explanation from you. Get to work.
6:07 "It'd be like adding White People to Journey to the West."
JSG is exactly right about this. How do I know this? Because the film The Forbidden Kingdom did exactly that and was EXCORIATED for it by the very same people that would form the core of the Woke mob just a few years later!
@@vincentl3065 Oh, I agree! The Forbidden Kingdom is a decent little movie.
Excoriated is my new word of the month, thanks!
@@vincentl3065 The whole thing of the main character being non-Asian was even addressed in the movie. Jet Li and Jackie Chan's characters had a conversation about it. Jet said, "He's not even Chinese," to which Jackie responded, "We're all the same on the inside, aren't we?" And it was never talked about again aside from the villains making snide remarks about him being a boy so far from home. The basic message with that was that anyone could do kung fu!
"If you don't want to follow the lore, then you should have made your own story" hear hear!!
Thank you for all the time & hard work you put into your videos
There is something vagualy satisfying about hearing someone go through the Trailer and putting into Words what you couldn´t about why it feels wrong
Unpopular opinion; I really liked the Hobbit trilogy, to this day I believe Smaug is the best portrayal of a Dragon I've ever seen.
He got nothing on charizard 😎 😂
I prefer the Rankin Bass version.
Agreed on Smaug, only thing I didn't like about the whole dragon chapter was how his fire didn't crisp the dwarves when they were standing in his breath. They could have made him so much more scarier if you couldn't just stand behind some beam slimmer than yourself to not be burnt - like at least show their clothes burning and their sides wounded.
Likewise with the LOTR I think the dwarves are portrayed in to much of a comedian way. And I think it's ridiculous that Thorin could take Azogs maze to the face and be completely fine looking afterwards, though he did definitely look movement impaired. Too much plot armor, better do this scene in another way.
Third movie had so many weird things to it, they ruined Tauriel, unbelieveable CGI fights etc.
I did really enjoy the portrait of the ironhill dwarves though, and their anti-elf missiles.
I thought the man in the fire was Gandalf too, you’re the only CZcamsr who has guessed that as well. So awful. My sister is trying to get me hyped for this show but I just can’t… I’m too much of a purist. And the attitude of the creators, calling anyone who doesn’t like this trailer “racist” puts me off to it so much I don’t want to even give it a try.
Anyone who calls a fan racist for objecting to changes from the source material is not a fan. This tells me that the creators' purpose with the rings of woke was destruction of the source material from the beginning.
I am also a purist I think so too, for Peruvians or Peru arranged differently, has the meaning of Pure.
@@nexusdrop7863 she thinks it looks cool I guess 🤷♀️ she’s a big fan of the movies and read the trilogy, but none of the books with extended lore. I haven’t talked to her about it extensively, just a couple texts.
Same here. The disappointment is real. I’m not going to watch it. Though I won’t blame if people will like this series, coz yeah, if we erased the LOTR and put another title, this series seems good enough. It’s just not the middle earth Tolkien has write.
@@nexusdrop7863 she might. She’s pretty much a normie who likes flashy action and doesn’t care if the plot is lazy or if it doesn’t make sense. Her favorite Star Wars movie is The Force Awakens lol
You rock and bring such joy to my heart. Keep up the true and good works !!!
Thank you! Tolkien was already for everyone and the book already united fans from all around the world together. We should celebrate this instead of correcting something that doesn’t need correcting. Respect from Italy
"No! Just no!" Perfectly said, my friend, perfectly said.
Unfortunately, they can't make their own series; they can only leech off the nostalgia of past great works like parasites. Evil can only corrupt for *the message* or whatever. Christopher and J.R.R. would be livid.
At least they didn’t actually get the rights to the Silmarillion
And the First age that’s a line no one can cross
The WOKES always made everything about race, gender, and sexual orientations. They put the "message" Above everything as long as it makes money . We've had enough of this. They literally use the same methods for every franchises they can buy. NO Originality, NO Authenticity, just need to Corrupt and Overwrite any established work for quick cash-grabbing and political correctness. Notice how people all around the world are already sick of these disgusting wokeness reworking. The solution is simple. REJECT this wokeness political brainwashing. REFUSE to pay and watch. Make them taste their own POISON and make them pay good fortune for it.
After seeing the trailer I had to watch Fellowship just to remind me good still exists. Now I know how the people of Middle Earth felt as Mordor and Isengard marched on their lands.
I love the long and descriptive speech you have about the dwarf queen and her importance to the story
Appreciate the commentary JSG, would love to see lore retrospectives from you on Tolkiens universe.
I agree. They just needed to make their own thing, and call it a day. The problem is, they didn't think whatever woke story and world they wanted to make would hold it's own, so they slapped Lord of the Rings on it, and then ignored the source material.
You want to throw black elves, dwarves, hobbits, lizard people... sure... fine... whatever. Make your own shit, and stop ruining other people's and calling it an 'improvement'
It's always a delight to see a true fan defending what they love - I just wish it didn't have to happen as often as it does.
Remember kids, Gatekeep your hobbies
Love when you say "no" in the quickest fashion with that black dwarf ::
man i love the way you express yourself !
"The whole point of the teaser is to give people an idea of what the show is about..." But they did. The show is about pretty places and cool fights and strong women and oppressed black men rising up. That's what the show is about.
And the splash Tolkien's name all over it, hoping that people won't notice *THE MESSAGE* eating up the scenery more than William Shatner in his prime.
Sooo... I could watch Beastmaster, Hawk the Slayer, Red Sonja, The Barbarians or the Schwarzenegger Conan movies. The second one even had a strong black woman.
Anyway, with those movies I at least know what they are about and they beat the show from this trailer in diversity and representation 😈
JSG is probably one of the foremost Tolkien experts on CZcams. If he says it doesn’t follow the lore I believe him
Yes, I thought I was a huge Tolkien fan because I had the entire History of Middle Earth series in hardcover, then I heard JSG start talking in Elvish.
I think he said he rereads some of the canon on a regular basis on another vid. His Silmarillion knowledge is on point (and I’m no novice on this stuff).
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Men of The West is another great one.
@@christophernuzzi2780 He dropped that Elvish like Rock Lee dropped those weights
You broke it down exactly. The reason I'm subscribed
I just stumbled over your channel Just Some Guy, and I have to say I just love your work. I love it when I'm discovers someone smarter than myself. I'm not implying that finding someone smarter than myself is all that difficult but... You know. Subbed.
Tolkien even disliked the internal combustion engine and was somehow opposed to the industrialisation. I think it is safe to say, that a company like Amazon with its corporate greed, its calculated efficiency, its slavelike inhumane treating of employees and the destruction of little buisnesses is the apex of everything Tolkien hated. I am so glad that I never have bought something there. Never have watched anything on Amazon Prime and never ever will. I live in a south German multiculti students projekt, am also progressive, anarchist, antifascist and do
check positive in most of the LGBTQ - letters but I was disgusted by this series from the moment I heared from it. Now that I have seen the Trailer, I am quite confident that it will become the dumpster fire that I expected it to be.
Ironically the colored dwarf chick should've had a beard since dwarves genders are supposed to be almost indistinguishable so they literally had a canonical way to challenge gender stereotypes and instead they chose to plop a random non-canon POC there and still muck it up and even piss off the left wing geeks. They can't even left wing LGBTQ correctly.
Huh, I didn't think that anarchists really overlapped with progressive homosexuals, but I suppose government is easy enough to recognize as the enemy for anyone with half a brain.
@@forgottenrights351 Haha, to recognize the German governments of the last few centurys as something evil, you dont need a brain at all. A simple wire that connects the ears internally would do the job.
@@forgottenrights351 dont forget that anarchism was largely proposed and promoted by leftist and progressives
@@Kodight The Anarchists in Spain were crushed by the communists and the fascists together. xD
Don Lemonlas the Elf. A beardless Dwarf princess that looks more like a Goa'uld System Lord than a Tolkien character.
Way to go Amazon! A sure fire hit! 🤣
A system lord! That's rich, like her complexion, heheh!
I thought from the first moment I saw the photo he looked remarkably like Don Lemon. There seems to be a wide consensus on that. (As JSG says, the real issue is the haircut…just too modern and not Elvish enough.)
@@Telorchid I saw a fan-edit that added long hair to both Elrong and this other elf. A world a difference! Actually looks Tolkien-esque
Wanna bet they were thinking long hair is "too gay" or something and traded it for some zoomer haircut and a buzz cut, respectively?
@@RoyCyberPunk Except the worm is Bezos' one this time, oops.
I just want to say how much I appreciate your informed commentary. I was beginning to think that I was turning into a bigot for just wanting the story to be accurate to the canon. But it is nice to hear from an even more informative fan just how inaccurate it is becoming. I wish they could just make some thing as close to the material without changing cannon. Why does everyone have to stick their fingers in it.
Sir, I bow down to your knowledge, great video.
I honestly would’ve liked hearing you explain Gandalf’s origin. You sounded passionate and I appreciate that
Get an audiobook of the silmarillion, and listen to it while driving or something, where you can concentrate a little on it. I am listening to it to the second time now, it's just wonderful. To read it by yourself it can be tiresome, but listening to it is awesome. This is the way
@@machinehater5143 I've read the book thrice by now and enjoyed it all 3 times but I agree it can be tiresome to people too. I'm not one of those people, but I can get why people would find it tiresome.
This isn't Gandalf. And the troll scene is also not Galadriel. Not that it makes the teaser any better though.
"I wish the Ring had never come to them. I wish this show did not exist."
"So do all who live to see such times."
Just watched you for the first time. My reaction: "I love this guy". Keep up the good work!
The elf at 2:45 looks like he’s wearing armor for the Old Republic.
So utterly psyched to NEVER see this! Thanks for saving me the trouble.
I LOVE how truly offended you are over the perversion of Tolkiens world. You really are a huge fan and admirer of Tolkiens works, ad it really comes across. I can hear it.
I read the books when i was a kid a few years before the movies came out. But only once each. You inspire me to read them again.
Great work, dude. I love your channel.
Love yiur narration and channel
Thank you! I'm black and I'm sick of black characters being put in Fantasy programmes and looking like they stepped out of the 2000s with no effort put into trying to remotely make them look like they fit in the universe they're inhabiting.
This is the novel Tolkien never wrote...and it shows.
That seaport at the beginning may be Romenna in Numenor -- the lone tall mountain in the background indicates it is the Meneltarma, rather than the Ered Luin. The Galadriel stuff makes no sense as has been previously pointed out - she was not a warrior, she left Beleriand well before Melkor's fall and spent pretty much all that time in peaceful places in the company of her husband Celeborn. I can't wait for Amazon's remake of the LOTR trilogy where the Nine are portrayed by a diverse group of WWE wrestlers, Saruman is a drag queen, and we're introduced to Frodo & the other hobbits at the annual Shire orgy.
And don’t forget about Gandalf the Gay
Men of the internet! Of fandoms! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same rage that would break the heart of me. A day may come, when the stories we adore will be seized and twisted, when we forsake our friends and fellow geeks, and break all bonds of fellowship. An hour of wokeness and sjw greed, and the destruction of our heroes and their worlds, when the Age of true Men comes crashing down. But it is not *this* day, this day, *WE FIGHT* ! By all the franchises, books, games, movies and tv shows, all that you hold dear, on this good earth, *I BID YOU STAND* ! *MEN* ! *OF THE NET* ! *FOR TOLKIEN* !!! DEATH TO AMAZON!
Well done man, for the fact that you have such in depth knowledge of the actual real text. I've never been able to get past about page 2 of The Silmarillion (just like the creators of this show)
There is always hope. We still have Tolkien's books, and Jackson's movies, and we are neither obligated nor forced to watch or support this crap.
Anything that contradicts the Professor's vision for his world is not canon. This show? It's nothing more than incredibly well funded fanfiction, no more integral to the lore and stories we love than cringe posted by a 12 year old on a fanfiction forum.
I'm not defending the show, I am not going to watch it, I despise it.
But I want to remind my fellow fans, anything in it that isn't Tolkien approved is none canon fanfiction. The same goes for the movies (though they were very good fanfiction) and any other Middle Earth content not written by J.R.R. Tolkien or Christopher Tolkien.
So take heart!
Finally someone who gets it!
Which is something fans should be doing, encourage to read/view the original content and disregard this "modern" crap.
Thank you. As someone who cringed at Arwen's "I-Love-Him!-No-Now-I'm-Leaving-Him!Take-Backsies-I-Saw-My-Son!" side-quest, or Gandalf's Extended-Cut pwnage at the hands of Witchking (which did NOT happen in the books, and likely would not have happened even if the rooster had not cock-blocked their impending fight - pun absolutely intended!), I appreciate a hopeful take like yours.
As much as Hollywood had to modernize it by making Frodo 20 for the cute-factor and making Eowyn's "No man" moment Fem-boss fodder, rather than a brave bandying of wits, the books are what inspire the clap-trap; the books are what remain and shall long remain after the bluster and wokery.
You are the rooster in that Gondorian courtyard, and the horns at the coming dawn: thank you for sounding.
Who cares?
Legend of Korra had the same basic creators as Avatar The Last Airbender, but to the writing teams consisted of completely different people.
Since writers form the backbone of any franchise, I refuse to acknowledge Legend of Korra as Canon. In addition to going full woke, the sequel completely europeanized what was supposed to be in all Asiatic universe that the first show created.
It also retconed a lot of things that I think we're good in the original show.
I was mainly here for your expert commentary on the scenes. I'm a normie (read the books, seen the films a few times each), so the shots in isolation I wouldn't have twigged to, were it not for this and Nerdrotic's commentary on his channel and stream appearances.
This is gonna be even more of an expensive backlash than that faced by Disney and Lucasfilm.
I am so excited for this show to come out, but just to see your video on it. It's one thing to see things you don't like being torn apart by people you do like, but it's so much more special when that person is an expert in that subject. My favourite content on this channel is the LoTR stuff.
I'm just at 2.50 of the video and already can tell this is totally the best matching review of the teaser i've seen so far.
I absolutely love you, man. I'm far too jaded, but my 15yo self is delighted by your thoroughly lore-based criticism and dismissal of this attempt at a skin suit.
Just like how he flat out said "No" to the black dwarf queen. lol
@@dimitriwarchief301 he didnt say he was 15. he said his "INNER" 15 year old self. He's implying he's old as hell - but his inner child is DELIGHTED at JSG's comments. Read it again. And stop being so critical of others without even comprehending what your seeing or reading. It's a bad look, ESPECIALLY on a video thats about historical literature.
@Nexus Drop to be fair, I'm jaded at nearly 33; I was referring to my former and more joyful self.
@Chris Broatch exactly, though a little more aggressive than I would put it
@@jessie801000 didn't need my inner child for that response
“I know the nose is black, so you’ve got a lot of room…..”
I totally busted out laughing - this type of humor is why I watch your videos 🤣
I love these LotR videos. I'm reading through the Silmarillion so hearing someone else who knows all these Tolkien names and places is great! :)
Spot on analysis my dude
Thanks to Just Some Guy for exposing this vandalization of Tolkien's world. Keep up the good work!!
I love how you really do critique every single part! You do a great job. You and Critical Drinker are my favorite takes so far.
Great teaser review! Thank you for your opinion, Some Guy!
Found my new favourite channel.
I'm looking forward to the animated film, THE LORD OF THE RINGS: The War Of The Rohirrim, from Warner Bros., that's coming out by 2024. At least, We know that THAT TALE will be taking its cues from J.R.R. Tolkien's storytelling, along w/ the aesthetics of Peter Jackson's 6 movies. Guaranteed, that release will be a blockbuster on levels this Amazon Prime thing won't ever reach.
Lemengolas!
We don't need any more adaptations of the Lord of the rings. The main narrative of middle earth was already done with the trilogy. The rest of the extensive writings really aren't that suited to a TV series or film adaptation. And besides none of these studios have the talent, passion or vision to make anything good from them. I don't get why people even want to see more LOTR when it's inevitably going to be disappointing.
It’s sad as true fans that when we voice our opinions and we disagree we are automatically label an “ist” or “phobe”. The people making this show is more dedicated to the message than the actual lore. We as fans want nothing more than a great adaptation of the lore. But creating characters instead of the multiple character selections, creating characters just to help spread the message, well then my friends we are truly lost
How many people can someone baselessly call an ist-phone before it stops meaning anything when they say it?
@@athatcher9367 It stops having meaning when people stop giving a fuck because “ist” and “phobe” words are ridiculous.
I really like what youre doing, setting the bar sooooooooo low that when it comes out it has to be good. I see you
Pretty sure that first episode is gonna bomb so damn hard...
Well, at least I'll have another JSG video to look forward to!
Just think, we went from having someone with a true passion and love for the original works, and put that love into bringing us the LotR trilogy...
To having a bunch of soulless virtue signalers who don't give a damn trying to destroy it.
So funny thing, after watching this video I decided to go to the Amazon trailer to have a look at the upvote/downvote ratio since you can see that with a browser add-on, and guess what? Not only was my dislike removed but yesterday the video was sitting at 19,000 upvotes to 39,000 downvotes. Well oddly enough it's now at 90,000 upvotes to 71,000 downlotes. Somehow we went from having nearly twice the downvotes to upvotes, my rating removed, and I wonder how many others are missing now, and there's WAY more upvotes, hmmmm, suspicious.
@SparrowEgg You know what, you're right! XD I looked back at my history and I had watched both the UK and the international listings for the trailer. Good call! Thanks!
@@straker454 it doesnt work. they're changing the dislikes. it went from 700k dislikes to like 40k last time i checked
@@straker454 How can you see the dislikes???
@@captainhaddock6435 Depending on your browser you can download an add-on that pulls the data from youtube so you can see it. I'm on Firefox and there's three add-ons last I checked. I'd suggest looking to see if there's an add-on you can use.
Thank God for people like you.
I like the fact you just couldn't leave the room on the nose joke. For me, that is a sign of professionalism or determination !
Tolkien has died twice this day. First the Hobbit films and now Amazon.
I don't think the Hobbit films were too bad, actually. Unnecessary, yes, and they could have been done much better, but not wholly disrespectful. I thought the songs were a great touch, since the dwarves were bards.
But this drivel?
Three times, you forgot PJ's first desecration.
At least the Hobbit movies were fun, despite all the unnecessary blubber.
@@andyknightwarden9746 I agree, it was fun, but it should have been one or two movies and remove all the extra crap they added.
@@andyknightwarden9746 Bro. The barrel-riding scene. It was unforgivable.
the way you just said "no" when the dwarf queen was shown was hilarious, not even a second to analyze, just "fuck no", ahaha
Brilliant as always
Im gonna harass Gary from Nerdrotic to get you on a Nooner to just talk bout the lore. This was a beautiful vid man, thanks!
Gandalf didn't arrive in a Meteor either. He arrived on a ship. It's kinda important too as Cirdan gives him a ring of power at that time. 🤦
Yeah but that's not "cool" enough for Amazon XD
My only hope is that LEGO brings back some LOTR sets... (hopefully not show related)
I saw on another channel(can't offhand recall whose)that Will Poulter was up for a possible for the
role of Elrond,but somehow wasn't chosen,which is really kind of sad as he's a good actor and bears more than a passing resemblance to Hugo
Weaving.
Very well said!
For Amazon, the golden goose is Prime. If you don't attack Prime, they won't feel it. I just dropped my Prime membership. I'm not on Twitter, but I'd love someone who is to share the tag #notprimetime to start a Prime boycott over this.
It's funny, they could have diversified without completely breaking the lore. A Numenorian/Haradrim mixed race warrior would be an interesting concept for a character.
Even a black dwarf, they could make him be from one of the houses of dwarves we know almost nothing about, like the Orocarni clans. Black elves... Maybe one of the elves who stayed behind and never heeded the Valar's call?
Not defending, but pointing out ways that they could have gone without ignoring pre established lore. Would be interested to hear what you think.
That just makes it worse because of the sheer lack of respect shown to Tolkiens' works through Willful Ignorance.
I don't know anything about the Lord Of The Rings lore, but do you honestly think that, they would be smart about this?
I'm always left wondering, why the hell aren't elves played by Asian actors? Fair skin, slight builds, youthful, inscrutable. I mean...am I wrong?
That would require work.
Why work when you can just box-tick and then Tweet-scream at angry fans while a simping media desperately prints puff-pieces to sell copy/clicks? As long as slop sells, companies will NEVER make quality, because quality costs more to make (assuming that profit - and not demoralizing propaganda - made to suck on purpose - is even their chief goal at this point).
They can still do it, we've no way of knowing if at the very least try tried to justify the race swap by fitting them into the geography of Tolkien. Disa for example looks nothing like the other dwarves even within the trailer who do look more like the classic Tolkienian dwarves, and her clothes reflect a southern environment, almost Egyptian like; so perhaps she's from Harad. Arondir is described in the article to be in a place near Harad; this could mean that they at least attempted to try and fit both of them as originated from the Harad region which would explain their appearances. However, why not clearly state it from the get go? at the very least, they should've made it clear in the teaser and article that these different looking characters come from the southern part of middle earth. The backlash could've been alleviated somewhat with the right marketing and a proper trailer. Now, the information is out there that they don't even have the rights to most of the source material depicting the second age which is needed to properly create an adaptation of that era, they only have a few pages from the appendices.
Holy shit...after watching this and some of your older vids you have immediately become my go to guy for future LOTR youtube content you clearly know your shit and in your "Dear Fake Tolkien Fans: No One Cares" vid that reply letter from Tolkien to the German guy was incredible
i can't wait to see you making a video about what would you think about that "one episode"
also thanks for saying someone needed to say that