Harrop Eaton E Locker vs ARB Air Locker vs TJM Pro Locker Diff Locker REVIEW | ALLOFFROAD

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  • WATCH THIS VIDEO BEFORE YOU PURCHASE ANY DIFF LOCKER
    Did you also think there are no differences between
    the different types of lockers, for example, Harrop Eaton E Locker, ARB Air Locker or TJM Pro Locker? Think again!
    After having used many different types of lockers in my vehicles over the years, for instance, ARB Air locker, Ashcroft Air Locker, Maxi Drive vacuum Locker. Not too long ago I installed a set of front and rear Harrop Eaton e lockers in my Toyota Landcruiser 105 and found during some technical driving that the e-locker has a different engagement mechanism to the ARB Air Locker or TJM Pro locker. This was something myself, and most people I know were not aware of, and it is not something which is advertised when you purchase an e locker.
    In this video, I will do a diff locker comparison and what difference the individual locking differentials could make to your driving.
    However I will not explain how differential locks also called lockers work in general.
    I will compare the three most sold lockers in Australia the Harrop Eaton E Locker, ARB Air Locker and TJM Pro Locker and show how their engagement mechanism works and offer my opinion which locker may be right for you.
    Depending on your vehicle and driving style not every locker is suitable in my opinion but this video will help you to see if a Harrop E-locker, TJM pro locker or ARB air locker is suitable for you.
    Please also check our the Channel from our friend at Filthy Motorsports who provided the inner working of the e locker and ARB AIR Locker
    / @filthymotorsports
    TJM Pro Locker:
    www.tjm.com.au/prolocker/
    ARB Air Locker:
    www.arb.com.au/air-locker/
    Eaton Harrop E-Locker:
    www.harrop.com.au/shop/4x4-pe...
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  • @marshiano
    @marshiano Před 5 lety +154

    Great Review. Thanks for a great insight into the options.
    I should have watched this before i entered blindly into buying a Harrop E-locker. my experience with Harrop E-locker is as follows.
    1. They are a buggy and faulty item (a lot of dropped pins and mysterious "stuck locked" cases-(research for yourself before you buy)
    2. Harrop customer care and warranty has to be the worst i have experienced as a consumer..They will blame anything with "could have been" "not defective"
    3. My Harrop E-locker self locked on a freeway @90km/h (I have the fuse removed when not off-road) and not only destroyed the crown and pinion but also ripped out some of the front diff mounting on my ford Ranger. It was a horrific self destruction of a diff center that only ever had one off road engagement (just to try it) and under 1,500km since installation.
    4. As the video shows the product isn't actually a locker unless you are moving forward they will unlock if you roll back (to adjust your approach.. which we all need to do) and will take ~1/2 a turn to re-lock ( how could this be called a locker?)
    It took Harrop more than a month to get back to me and refuse the warranty claim and they still haven't returned my diff back to me so i can have a mechanical engineer write a report.
    It has now been 2 months and i have had to purchase a new front diff assembly just to get the car back on the road. (I will be putting on an air locker as i will not do business with Harrop again)
    Please do your research and choose wisely

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +10

      Wow, thanks for sharing that is bad, I’m so glad I removed my ones again

    • @marshiano
      @marshiano Před 5 lety +5

      AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV
      Thanks for the pin.
      Purchasing on The perception of quality and simplicity was my mistake.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +9

      @@marshiano you were not the only one I made the same mistake. I could not find any useful information so thought I better make the video to hopefully save someone some coin and headache

    • @efibendor1
      @efibendor1 Před 5 lety +4

      Sounds like you did a bad install

    • @JAMESWUERTELE
      @JAMESWUERTELE Před 5 lety +6

      Forget the complexity check out OX locker. I’ve had an OX in a 60 since it was released for sale, in a F-350

  • @freedomrider266
    @freedomrider266 Před 4 lety +2

    Much appreciation for your time, effort and willingness to do the research for OUR benefit...I am in the process of starting a long expedition throughout the western half of the country (United States) and I want to ensure that all my critical parts are of solid quality and durability. Again, thank you.

  • @sherman4970
    @sherman4970 Před 3 lety +2

    Got front and rear ARB air lockers in my 91/92 Swb Pajero.
    Wanted them all my life,,,Very happy.!

  • @bernicecanty721
    @bernicecanty721 Před 6 lety +4

    My fj cruiser has factory fitted rear locker electronic type and up front an arb air locker. Never had any issues and was installed professionally by outback 4x4 Bayswater. I do some fairly rugged inclines with ruts and rocks and poke along quietly up them with lockers on. Never miss a beat very happy indeed. I think front and rear is the way to go and know when and how to use and not use them. Excellent video.

  • @rudiwebel582
    @rudiwebel582 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks your explanation helped me understand the differences between the lockers and i now know which locker is suitable for me, well done .

  • @s3uoq
    @s3uoq Před 2 lety +2

    Just fitted a TJM Pro Locker to my rear diff after having originally wanting the e locker. Thanks for a great video and my installer reinforced my decision as he also agreed that its the best of the 3.

  • @phillipsampson4001
    @phillipsampson4001 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for all the work you put into this video. Fantastic review.
    It was professional and insightful. Explaining the clear differences between all three lockers.
    You have made my decision as a not so full on enthusiast to keep it simple.

  • @1davebreno
    @1davebreno Před 6 lety +7

    Thanks for the time you've taken to put this together.

  • @yorkbleyer9803
    @yorkbleyer9803 Před 3 lety +2

    Spot on review. It really comes down to your choice and what will work for your needs. In the end, failure of your locking diff, isn't an option. Awesome review!

  • @CGV.69
    @CGV.69 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Definitely helps to understand which way to go 👍

  • @OffTheBeatenPathAus
    @OffTheBeatenPathAus Před rokem +1

    Great combination video with actual technical operational information. Agree the fact the TJM is not pressurised is a big plus, but till a friend pointed this out I had no idea about the elockers disengaging when rolling back.

  • @lukeagex
    @lukeagex Před 3 lety

    Straightforward and transparent review, thanks. Very helpful for when/if I get a locker for my Prado.

  • @johnrogers5825
    @johnrogers5825 Před 6 lety +2

    This video would have to be one of the best on CZcams. Very professional.
    I think I am leaning toward TJM but not 100% sure. I sit on the fence deciding for so long that something new usually comes on the market. Lockers are so confusing to pick the right one; it is a pity there isn't one on the market that is foolproof and reliable.
    I hope you keep making these videos for everyone, as it helps so much, especially as there is no sales and marketing BS to con us out of our hard earned money. More power to you man.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      Hi John, thanks for that the TJM locker is not new it’s the old McNamara locker the design is on the market for many many years

  • @hendrikkarsten3784
    @hendrikkarsten3784 Před 5 lety +4

    Thx for the great and accurate review. I personally have a ARB locker fitted for 10years in my Lux. I recently had to change a leaking air seal on the locker. It was a unpleasant exercise for small problem. Thx again for the useful info.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +1

      I reckon 10 years is good, bit annoying is that you take whole diff out and a 10c part cost $700 in labour

    • @JAMESWUERTELE
      @JAMESWUERTELE Před 5 lety +1

      AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV sounds way more expensive to maintain than an OX locker

  • @gregj.gotham4402
    @gregj.gotham4402 Před rokem +3

    Thank you I was surprised how the E lockers work for real, my mind of air lockers just changed very positively. I’ve never heard of the TJM lockers but I’m going to research them this afternoon so I have the best for my 4X4. Not going rock climbing or hot rock bouncing, I’m building a rig for serious bug out and for running the old roads on my maps of the 20’s- 30’s I’m metal detecting old schools an homesteads in the mountains just want an all around 4x4 to tackle going where no one in 50 yrs has driven.

  • @debrown4093
    @debrown4093 Před 6 lety +2

    Great video. I have ARB in the front and rear of a Jeep TJ. So far I have had no problems. I Like the TJM Pro Locker design, the air line and piston can be replaced in the trail. Anything that can be repaired on the trail is worth having.
    Thanks for your videos

  • @michaelclement2124
    @michaelclement2124 Před 6 lety +2

    Very good detailed Information.
    I don‘t have the posibility to do what you do and i never will, but i love all the details.
    Thanks for making al that stuff.

  • @simonmul449
    @simonmul449 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for that insight into lockers. Very helpful in choosing which is most suitable.

  • @lukemorgan8551
    @lukemorgan8551 Před rokem +2

    Awesome video mate I was debating on the TJM or the Harrop locker but now this has helped make up my mind

  • @GridLineGo
    @GridLineGo Před 4 lety +2

    Wow!! I didn't know the Elocker actually had a temporary disengagement like that. That is some great info! I've been doing a lot of research myself and thankfully came across your video. Thank you!

  • @Phil_McAvity
    @Phil_McAvity Před 6 lety +7

    Good video Stefan & I totally see your point. I just had soo many problems with my ARB air lockers that when I made the change (15 months ago) to the E-lockers it was almost magical, and haven’t had a problem in this time. But I can obviously see why you’ve changed.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety +1

      yes mate, I hear you as well and I don't think E-Lockers are bad just not suitable for me, from my research it seems most people who have an issue with ARB's are because of poor installation and unfortunately I heard from a few people who had issues that they had them installed at ARB Francises which sometimes only have fitters...

    • @ericandhismighty200lc5
      @ericandhismighty200lc5 Před 6 lety

      Thank you for the explanation i was convinced that elockers were the go for my 200 but thanks to your informative video im now going the tjm pro locker.

  • @westie4ageturbo.749
    @westie4ageturbo.749 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank god i watched this. And thanks guys!! Im going to put lockers in my D40 as the limited slip is well and truely stuffed.

  • @johnostrum6953
    @johnostrum6953 Před 4 lety +4

    Literally every bit of information I was looking for. Superb video. Thanks so much

  • @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya
    @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks Stefan......
    We're in the process of putting front & rear lockers into our Wrangler JK.....
    So, that's good info....

  • @ewanmcleod6487
    @ewanmcleod6487 Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for the time and effort you put into this comparison and video. It helped me make my choice of a necessity.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      Thank you comments like this are appreciated

  • @c130aviator
    @c130aviator Před 4 lety

    Added your video to my arb install playlist. I chose arbs and installed my own gears. Thank you for helping me explain my decision.

  • @tengallonz
    @tengallonz Před 6 lety +1

    Great video Stefan, I didn't know this about the eLockers, it wouldn't really be much of a problem for me with how and where I drive, but I can see how it would be a critical problem for the tech stuff you do.
    Also great to see a factual video presenting real information rather just more heresay that forums etc get flooded with.
    Great stuff!

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      Thanks a lot mate, I tough the video may save someone the 4K I spend on elockers

  • @johnrogers5825
    @johnrogers5825 Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent video. This has me leaning toward the TJM. I have been researching for months and am still undecided as there isn't one locker that is perfect. I don't like that disengagement with elockers, and am wary about ARB O-rings in particular. This video has been the most honest and best explained one that I have come across so far. You appear to be very honest, and don't appear to be promoting any locker, even though you have gone TJM. Honesty works for me, and I disregard information given by others who I can 99% tell are promoting something for a company and what they can get out of it.

  • @juliangraziani7299
    @juliangraziani7299 Před 6 lety +4

    I used to fit ARB lockers and can tell you they have quality issues. At the end I was dissassembling the locker and inspecting/cleaning the swarf from the units.
    TJM lockers are the best selectable locker on the market.
    E-Lockers are temperamental because of the way they lock and wiring in the housings actually move with the shaking which the housing goes through.
    I personally run a Lokka in the front of my part time 4x4 but nothing except the ramping type LSD in the rear. Im not into the crawling side of driving but I haven't been stuck without trying really hard.

  • @MattBlack6
    @MattBlack6 Před 6 lety +1

    Great video thanks. I've also watched the full filthy motorsport video. I'm far from an experienced off roader of my 80 series but to me it looks like TJM is the way to go. Having a compressor onboard is vital for tyres anyway, so I'll have it to do both. Cheers.

  • @bywayz
    @bywayz Před 3 lety +2

    I ran an ARB Air Locker in my 1990 Toyota 4Runner (5 spd, 22r-e) for about 25 years of daily town driving, wildland travel and occasional technical four-wheeling. While the sound and vibration of the compressor took getting used to, it never failed. I would buy another for my current '05 4Runner without hesitation if I still drove in conditions where it would be helpful.

  • @TheTravelingTogetherJournal

    Thank you. I was one of the many who didn't know about the disengagement of the e-locker with direction change and that it would take a .25 rotation to engage in the first place. This will defiantly play into my locker buying decision as I drive a manual transmission and it is difficult to avoid a bit of rocking back and forth over obstacles.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      yes you were not alone and even with an auto you may have sometimes non-deliberate but often deliberate small movement in reverse so for me I rather bee in full control of my locker

  • @dirtyoff-roadaustralian5525

    Great one thank you for clearing that up now it’s a lot more understandable between the makes 👍🏻

  • @powderriver2424
    @powderriver2424 Před 5 lety +3

    Just like any big purchase thorough research is needed, choose the wrong thing equals $3K or better mistake. None of these units are cheap, that’s including installation, I like the positive engagement of the pro- locker, however I never knew until now how all these functioned this was a very informative video.

  • @darrindouglas1
    @darrindouglas1 Před 5 lety +2

    Excellent review. I have a factory rear locker in my NP300. As an "e-locker" it works fine (so far). I was thinking an air for the front, but I am convinced now thanks to your video. I have an on-board tank and twin compressors, so air supply will be a breeze. Really enjoying your videos. Keep up the great work....

  • @cookie13spike
    @cookie13spike Před 6 lety +1

    Great info! My factory locker in mitsubishi challenger has started playing up so looking at drop-in options I found only harrop do a suitable one. Interesting your findings with the elocker and something I need to seriously consider as do alot of technical driving! cheers

  • @simonjones388
    @simonjones388 Před 4 lety +2

    thankds for the technical breakdown I am looking for a pair of lockers to go on either my patrol or my Isuzu trooper neither 4x4 is new they are both used as tractors to pull broken down vehicles back to the public road where they can then be put on the recovery truck and brought back to the garage I have previous experience of mechanical limited slip diffs but in the muddier fields the 2 4x4s could do with a little help( so locking diffs to the rescue )

  • @donaldmccain4084
    @donaldmccain4084 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Sir, I am currently researching lockers and this vid really answered many of my questions, I appreciate it, thank you!

  • @tomjones400
    @tomjones400 Před 4 lety +4

    Great information, presented in an easily understood way, with what I thought to be a very balanced approach. Appreciate your efforts in making this video. Now I'm armed with some very relevant knowledge, I know which diff locker I'll be going with.
    Glen

  • @4x4patroladventures4
    @4x4patroladventures4 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good information! I put a TJM Pro locker in the Patrol rear. VERY happy with it!!

  • @6402457
    @6402457 Před 4 lety +1

    Damn I was all about the Harrop E-lockers, but now watching this knowing it might not work if u roll back is a no go for me. Cause I get myself into sketchy situations pretty often and I need my lockers to work when I need them to. Definitely getting an air locker now most likely Tjm... thanks for the insight.

  • @melshingleton5991
    @melshingleton5991 Před 5 lety +1

    Love my ARB lockers. However, it's very important that the air hose is installed correctly and away from heat. Last winter, while wheeling in 5' deep snow my front locker failed duento melted air supply line. The company who installed my lockers ran the supply line too close to the exhaust and it melted. It was also out of reach and so I had no lockers.

  • @jutley6473
    @jutley6473 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome video from the states. Love my ARBs but like the sound of those TJM lockers

  • @jaredtansley3236
    @jaredtansley3236 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome honest review matey, sold me on the TJM pro locker

  • @charliebaker4259
    @charliebaker4259 Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks for the comparo. Informative and non biased.

  • @tomtrish
    @tomtrish Před 6 lety +1

    Mate thanks for that. I have the ARB Air Lockers in the front and rear of my 100 series Cruiser and I do love them. They've been in since 2006 and the only trouble I've had is after putting a 3" exhaust on the car, at full flex the exhaust would break the air fitting as it exits the diff. I have since redesigned that exit system and it's fine now. I have noticed over the years that the compressor kicks in more often than it used to, so I guess a service to replace some o-rings might be worth it. It doesn't fail though,, so I'm still happy with them

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      If they are well installed they usually seem to be good, if there was no TJM I would have also gone ARB but installed by ARB HQ with the 5 year warranty

  • @donpardo1
    @donpardo1 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi Stephan, good choice. I had tjm prolockers installed 7 years ago on my 105 landcruiser
    still work ok, little air leak somewhere, but still do their job. I did choose Tjm above Arb, also
    because Arb would not give me warranty with their lockers, because I run 35 inch tyres on my cruiser and
    Tjm did. Maybe Arb do now, I have not checked.

  • @sti1478
    @sti1478 Před 6 lety +1

    hi mate big fan of your channel, especially this particular video is so informative, right before my decision on different lockers. thanks

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      Thanks mate, glad it helped you with your decision

  • @johnraygun9868
    @johnraygun9868 Před rokem

    Great video Sir, I have a Ram Power Wagon that comes stock with front and rear e lockers, I was already debating on changing over when I have play money lol, I already have the ARB Twin set up ready to go but for the off-roading I do Air isnt a necessity. Appreciate your work on this!

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před rokem +2

      I'm not familiar with the Ram E Locker are they Harrop Eaton,? E-locker in general is not necessarily bad Toyotas e-locker don't have any of the issues the Eaton/Harrop's have.

  • @rockynrolling6206
    @rockynrolling6206 Před 4 lety +3

    Was just about to Pull the trigger on a Rear E-locker for My Dmax but rememebered this Vid so thought I'd rewatch it again just to be sure, but after going through the comments, I might save up the further $600 for a TJM Pro Locker, seems it'll save me money in the long run, Love your video mate and thanks for putting it together

  • @NISMO-OFFROAD
    @NISMO-OFFROAD Před 6 lety +2

    thanks , so much for the great info, your advice is always very good and i think tjm is my choice also ive herd so many bad things about ARB lockers

  • @Doodlkine1
    @Doodlkine1 Před 3 lety +2

    An excellent explanation. I was looking to get either an ARB Air Locker or TJM Pro Locker in my new LC 200 series. I will now have the TJM Pro Locker installed.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 3 lety

      Good choice! They have not let me down so far

    • @ausguy4385
      @ausguy4385 Před 2 lety

      Have a 200 also. How did it go?

  • @JeepTJWheelin
    @JeepTJWheelin Před rokem +2

    Excellent and well explained video. I have an '05 Jeep TJ Rocky Mtn, and I'm looking to do more challenging off roading, will be getting either the TJM or ARB lockers with 32" BFG MT's.

  • @mattyraso1
    @mattyraso1 Před 4 lety

    Yet again another fantastic video!! You have massively helped!!

  • @pengrex
    @pengrex Před 4 lety

    thanks for u good work, after watch your video and some study , i put order for my air locker last week.

  • @markhoffmann2771
    @markhoffmann2771 Před 6 lety +1

    Haha. Great vid. Thankyou. I have e lockers. They get a good work out for sure. As you say all good in the area you play in. A mate of mine John said it in great words on the track one day as I had an issue with e locker but didn’t know it haha , the thing is you can hear an airline that is pinched and know there is an issue , as with a broken wire you don’t know till it’s to late.
    Keep up the good work. Steady steady mate.

  • @SeriousSchitt
    @SeriousSchitt Před 6 lety +2

    Great video fella, thanks.
    I knew from the onset there were differences. When I got my lockers, in my 2003 Hilux SR5, four years ago, I don't think I'd heard of the TJM locker, I was sold solely on the ARB. My mate told me about the 'E' locker, and having never gelled with the notion of a cable (such as the OX locker) I did most of my research around the ARB and the Eaton 'E'.
    As mentioned my preference was with the ARB, and it takes a lot for me to change my mind once I get set on something, however, once I found out that they required a seal inside the diff, and reading someone's write-up stating that they were a mechanic dealing with a lot of the ARBs, and saying "who would want to fill their diffs with compressed air? I mean 'seriously'"? I started to focus on the 'E' lockers.
    The notion, like you mentioned, that these things undid between forwards and reverse, really didn't sit well with me at all, and psychologically still don't, however, that's what I ended up going for (front and rear, very simple operation installed by myself a 'meat worker') and have not had a single problem with them. I'm 'only' a hunter, requiring four wheel drive to get me safely back up the odd track that I encounter, however, I've never noticed them unlock whilst I've been out there doing it. Perhaps I'd change my mind if I got into more serious 'technical' wheeling, I don't know, but I'm certainly not about to rip them out, for me, they're perfect. Thanks.

    • @JAMESWUERTELE
      @JAMESWUERTELE Před 5 lety +1

      The Ox uses a cable, air, or electric. The cable is a push cable not a pull. I’ve had 7 years and over 80,000 miles of trouble free problems in my D60

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley Před 2 lety +1

    What a fabulous channel you have there! I’m subbed! Cheers

  • @daverobertson1419
    @daverobertson1419 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review, you changed my thinking about these lockers 🙂

  • @our4x4adventure18
    @our4x4adventure18 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome review mate. This has helped me make my choice of locker for my new build 🤙👍👍

  • @dartmoordave
    @dartmoordave Před 5 lety +1

    I have the stock LSD on the rear of my LWB Trooper and an Aussie Locker in the front. As it has 2/4 option the front doesn't affect handling but care is taken when in 4. Works great for me in the UK. I could buy a used trooper for the price of an ARB so, no argument. NO WIRES, NO TUBES, NO FAILING. As long as you remember not to abuse the half shafts.

  • @TKsw191145
    @TKsw191145 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. Definitely influenced my decision. Thank you from America

  • @StormbornJKU
    @StormbornJKU Před 4 lety +1

    I just installed an Eaton e locker in the rear and noticed how it disengages and reengages. I like to do some pretty hardcore wheeling and that may prove to be a con for me. I suppose I’ll have to wait and see to find out. As long as constant momentum is kept it should be fine. Lockers allow you to spin tires when stuck, so just keep momentum is my fix. We’ll see

  • @AlloffroadAu
    @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety +12

    Not sure which Locker to buy? ARB, TJM or Harrop E-Locker?
    I just replaced my five-month-old Harrop Eaton E Locker as I found out not all lockers are the same... Unfortunately, there is a lot of misinformation out about the different locker types so after now having used all three locker types and doing quite a bit of research I thought I share my findings in a Video which may help someone purchasing the correct locker for his application.
    Please don't forget to share your Locker experience in the comments!

    • @mimixownzall
      @mimixownzall Před 6 lety +2

      Ox locker greater than all of them

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      yes I heard that they are very good and could be installed as e-locker, air locker or mechanical locker not very common here though

    • @wyattscott3526
      @wyattscott3526 Před 6 lety +1

      I don't think so. Seen two of them fail quite quickly in light weight vehicles. I've used ARB Air lockers now exclusively in our builds with zero failures.

    • @stuartjohns2779
      @stuartjohns2779 Před 6 lety +1

      AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV I got Jeff McNamara to make my diff locks around 10 years ago for my 80 series just before he sold the design to TJM. They have been through hell and back and still work perfectly. The air ram actuated locking ring was why i went for them aswell.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety +1

      I reckon that will last you another 20 years, still handmade in Australia at the time, awesome

  • @rogerkoch8170
    @rogerkoch8170 Před 4 lety +3

    Fantastic, exactly the video I was looking for

  • @jylangibbins2024
    @jylangibbins2024 Před 5 lety +1

    A bit of food for thought. Great stuff mate.

  • @Iandental
    @Iandental Před 2 lety +4

    My Gu Patrol it's ARB Airlockers fitted December 2001 , 21 years later there still going strong although the air compressor has been replaced 3 times... The Airlockers were factory fitted and have never missed a beat and the vehicles has played pretty hard over the years and 500.000 kms. I wouldn't worry about those "O" rings to much ! :)

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 2 lety +2

      was a different design then mate o rings indeed where no issue in old design.

    • @Niko-iw1sr
      @Niko-iw1sr Před 2 lety +1

      @@AlloffroadAu I just bought a ARB locker for my 94 4runner, should I worry about the o-rings on the new design? Do they go bad more often than the old design?

    • @bogged2theeyeballs695
      @bogged2theeyeballs695 Před rokem +1

      Same in my LC105. 20 years and no problems with my ARB Airlockers F & R, or the compressor.

  • @EmpTy-kf2rq
    @EmpTy-kf2rq Před 6 lety +1

    Great info. I also watched Filthy Motorsports video before making the tough decision.
    I went with Harrops as I didn’t want to add additional failure points - air compressor, air lines and O-Rings. TJM lockers are not available in USA. Also, I am not usually rock crawling like in your video when off-roading and I do have an automatic transmission and left foot brake to prevent roll backs, most of the time.

    • @ananamusly
      @ananamusly Před 6 lety

      TJM is available in USA. Search for them on JustDifferentials.com

  • @lsvej1
    @lsvej1 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for this video! I been searching on a locker and came across the tjm pro locker not long ago an read up good things about there design and quality and this video has helped me made my decision on which locker to go with in the future. Seems like allot of technical off roaders choose tjm over Arb

  • @arcoeco
    @arcoeco Před 3 lety

    Really good explanation of how each locker works, thanks.

  • @richardrichard208
    @richardrichard208 Před 4 lety +1

    Very informative video keep up the gr8 work team

  • @stevenq3840
    @stevenq3840 Před 6 lety +1

    Fantastic in-depth explanation, thank you👍🏻

  • @HopeIsAlliGot
    @HopeIsAlliGot Před 4 lety +3

    Don’t know how to thank you for sharing this deep knowledge . I never knew these facts. I appreciate that 🙋‍♂️

  • @adrianw3985
    @adrianw3985 Před 6 lety +1

    Good information, I wish the Grizzly or Detroit Locker was available for my Toyota 8.2 Diff. I have a Grizzly Locker in my Nissan and it has been flawless for over 30k miles now. Probably going to go Harrop for my Toyota 8.2 despite its minor disadvantages.

  • @louwgreeff4195
    @louwgreeff4195 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for paying the schoolfees. Defnitly looking towards the tjm pro after understanding the different mechanisms.

  • @Marco-fi6gv
    @Marco-fi6gv Před 4 lety +4

    Thanks for the review! Filthy Motorsports is awesome too, love that channel.

  • @sydneyraj
    @sydneyraj Před 4 lety

    Honest review. Helpful. Thanks

  • @sinaalex7577
    @sinaalex7577 Před 3 lety

    Sehr gut recherchiert. Da wird komplizierte Technik verständlich erklärt. Weiterhin viel Spass in "Down Under".

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 3 lety

      vielen dank and schoene gruesse nach deutschland

  • @ascott215
    @ascott215 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent video and great info! Thank you. And hello from Texas.

  • @jakeweg4886
    @jakeweg4886 Před 2 lety +2

    This is making me like my 3rd gen 4runner style locker a lot more

  • @ShaneEstabrooks
    @ShaneEstabrooks Před 6 lety +1

    Good info.. Issue for me is not all brands fit my axle..but an e-locker

  • @ooaqici82qb4ip
    @ooaqici82qb4ip Před 5 lety +2

    First of all that’s a good informative video.I had arb lockers installed on my new hilux and I’m now on my 4th set of lockers after travelling only 87,000kms. The last failure absolutely destroyed my rear diff and housing when a crown wheel bolt FELL OUT!!!! As they don’t use locking tabs but recommend lock tite.to keep it together. With a bit of luck the car should be back on the road this Friday and come Monday I’m going the Tjm to get the pro lockers fitted. I no longer feel that my car is reliable and I can’t take it anywhere I can’t get a tow truck and after researching all the lockers I’m hard pressed finding negative feedback about the tjm’s. This video helped me make up my mind. Thanks again

    • @ooaqici82qb4ip
      @ooaqici82qb4ip Před 5 lety

      Ps the new arb lockers will only travel around 50kms from the ARB workshop to the TJM workshop where they’ll be cheerfully ripped out n replaced. Anyone want to buy some cheap arb lockers for a 2013 hilux SR5, they’ve only done 50kms $750 for both front n rear

    • @benjaminprince6424
      @benjaminprince6424 Před 5 lety

      4 lockers, under 100k, holy shit, should not even have gone past one set!

    • @fuzzynuts54
      @fuzzynuts54 Před 5 lety +1

      Your bolt falling out has nothing to do with the locker. That is purely installer fault. You can most certainly use locking tabs on the arb. No matter what brand you choose, if you don't run locking tabs, locktite on clean oil free threads, you run the risk of bolts falling out.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 4 lety

      Interestingly we had this happen to all 5 people in our club with e-lockers, one vehicle needed the whole axle housing and centre replaced twice within 12 month, the second vehicle twice within 2 years installed by Harrop so doubt this is just an installation issue. My theory is that they come loose with heavy use as all of us use the lockers on a weekly base.

  • @ottoswinebar
    @ottoswinebar Před 6 lety +1

    Just discovered your channel via this video. Keep up the great work.

  • @vdj79r4
    @vdj79r4 Před 6 lety +1

    Good explanation, I have e-lockers in my Landcruiser and am happy with them, despite having one explode and destroy my diff!-was repaired under warranty but did have to drive 100 kms in front wheel drive! Only other problem has been with a poor quality fuse holder which caused locker not to work due to no power. If I was to buy again though I would consider the pro locker for the same reasons you mention.

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      we have two people in our club who recently found a sheered of small bolt on the magnet in the diff looks like a grub screw, must come from E-Locker will see how Harrop handles the warranty...

    • @vdj79r4
      @vdj79r4 Před 6 lety +1

      AllOffroad 4x4 Adventures TV yes the spider gear shaft is held in place with three small cap screws, they fell out in mine allowing the shaft to come free and reek havoc! Eaton said it was due to a bad batch of thread locker?! Locker and all damaged parts replaced under warranty

  • @kyotiangel
    @kyotiangel Před 4 lety +1

    Hit me like a truck, when flithy Motorsport explained it. I watched that video previously but it made sense when you see it operate.

  • @mindofown
    @mindofown Před 6 lety +2

    Good analysis and comparison

  • @neardood1
    @neardood1 Před 5 lety +3

    ARB redesigned their air lockers. The older ones had o-rings that would wear out when the diff was unlocked and being driven on the road, resulting in blown out axle end seals, oil being pushed out by the air pressure when activated, ect. Definitely something to consider if purchasing a second hand one

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +2

      Not that I know off, a friend of mine just had new set installed by ARB in December 2018 and they were leaking oil out the breather in January

    • @superwag634
      @superwag634 Před 5 lety +1

      I’ve had my ARB lockers front and rear since 2003 in an 80 landcruiser diesel manual. Both lockers leak oil out the pneumatic solenoid upon disengagement. It’s like a puff of oil vapour and my firewall is covered in diff oil.
      Ive had three diff rebuilds in the rear, often after rock crawling. The lockers used to shear bolt heads which then floated around the diff centre until they smashed into the crown wheel and pinion and that was always a horrible sound and experience. Then I got it modified with more bolts.
      The o rings are always worn and the elastomer loses elasticity over time.. It’s just not a durable design in my opinion and I’m a mechanical engineer for almost 20 years.
      Just waiting for the upcoming fourth diff rebuild 😬

  • @damingallo1
    @damingallo1 Před 2 lety

    Hello! what do you think about the AUBURN GEAR ECTED locker or now called the Select-A-Loc™? I am thinking in this because offers the locking option (not sure if it is 100%). I am between this an a tru-lock from eaton.

  • @brbadventurer
    @brbadventurer Před rokem +3

    11:36 When the air line broke in your diff did it blow gear oil out of your seals?

  • @Inboundbogie
    @Inboundbogie Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you very much for this review. Helps alot.
    In making my decision.

  • @UncleFjester
    @UncleFjester Před 5 lety +2

    Stock Rear Locker on my FJ & I learned from this video Thanks

  • @craigquann
    @craigquann Před 3 lety +2

    Well for the weekend warrior/occasional off roading, the e-locker would be the way to go. But for the more dedicated people. Air lockers plus an air system that can also inflate your tires should be the setup you would want.

  • @beerturbogarage
    @beerturbogarage Před 3 lety +2

    i was looking forward to putting an E locker in my next 4wd, but after learning this i think ill avoid it. iT does make you think, the TJM could be actuatated with an electric solaniod instead of air also?

  • @anaxpalasia3031
    @anaxpalasia3031 Před 5 lety +2

    Great info mate, thank you.

  • @hardliquor4x493
    @hardliquor4x493 Před 6 lety +2

    Another quality video stepan i thought of an e locker for my front diff before but since one of our fellow drivers in his disco had one installed and failed twice i have stuck to my auto lokka in the front only no air lines or switches and has been bloody awesome the only thing wrong with them they cant be switched of but they are a bit savage when first installed i would not put an auto lokka in the rear btw

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 6 lety

      I used to have an Ashcroft ATB in the Disco 2, liked it for 99% of applications but still was reactive so stuffed up a few rock climbs hence I changed to an Air Locker at the time

  • @williamdomstrand3782
    @williamdomstrand3782 Před 4 lety

    Very helpful and useful information. Thanks

  • @LeonardAppelgryn
    @LeonardAppelgryn Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks, man. Good and very informative. Made me wonder how the locker in my Toyota LC79 works. Knowing its electrical it will be good to see how those lockers work

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +2

      Could not tell you exactly but they don’t have the shortcomings of the Harrop

    • @mountainman38
      @mountainman38 Před 5 lety +1

      @@AlloffroadAu: I would agree. I have a 1999 Toyota Tacoma TRD with an electric locker, which has been fabulous. Sometimes I get stuck, just so I can hit that button and crawl out of the sand or up the rutted trail. I have never noticed the differential unlocking with my truck.

  • @littlefarmer32
    @littlefarmer32 Před 5 lety +4

    I have used the Detroit locker in the FORD 9 inch , on my 85 full-size BRONCO. Best dif lock on the planet

    • @AlloffroadAu
      @AlloffroadAu  Před 5 lety +2

      More of a unlocker but heard they work quite well

    • @stevenwalker984
      @stevenwalker984 Před 5 lety +2

      Do you find it a bit clunky. I used to run a lokka in the rear of my old hilux and whilst it worked well it was very noisy and clunky when turning. I presume they are a similar design.

  • @scubbarookie
    @scubbarookie Před 4 lety +1

    This is very educational. Thank you!

  • @sha6mm
    @sha6mm Před 4 lety +3

    What I would like to know about air locker is can moisture freeze in the line in below freezing temps. Like in North Central USA where temps can go to -30 F .