Could We See a Biden-Trump Debate? | 538 Politics Podcast

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
  • Six months out, how does the conventional wisdom about the 2024 election compare with how we are thinking about the numbers here at 538? Are election watchers thinking in a clear-eyed way about an election that will undoubtedly produce a lot of emotion and narratives?
    We look at where the betting markets place the likelihood of everything from former President Donald Trump picking South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as his running mate to Democrats winning a Senate race in Ohio, and decide whether the odds are appropriately priced. Download the full audio podcast episode: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
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Komentáře • 36

  • @TheMookan
    @TheMookan Před 29 dny +29

    Please go back to posting the full podcasts. I've been a listener for years but i'd rather drop this podcast than switch to yet another platform and have a worse experience for it.

  • @ckq
    @ckq Před 29 dny +42

    Post the full pod

    • @ckq
      @ckq Před 29 dny

      Or at least the whole buy sell segment

    • @SleepyHarryZzz
      @SleepyHarryZzz Před 29 dny

      If you're interested go and listen lol

    • @Sheriffryewhiskey
      @Sheriffryewhiskey Před 26 dny

      80% chance joe said he'd do it
      I'm waiting. Lol pretend to debate
      Trump had 80 k people in NJ yesterday
      He doesn't need to debate.
      Joe isn't gonna do it ..
      If he does he'll lie like he does every day.

  • @cholten99
    @cholten99 Před 29 dny +21

    Again, you have the full video - why did you stop posting them? Is it really improving your metrics?

  • @blakeschannel1956
    @blakeschannel1956 Před 29 dny +14

    Let us see the full video!! I love seeing y'all's beautiful faces

  • @Bobber256
    @Bobber256 Před 28 dny +3

    I don't understand why you've stopped dumping the whole podcast here on CZcams. It's a charismatic cast, and works best as talking heads.

  • @GrahamAmes
    @GrahamAmes Před 29 dny +4

    Post The Full Pod. Why did you change this? I enjoyed watching you talk with each other. And I hate to say it, but just listening is less interesting and you might lose me as a listener if you don't post the full thing to CZcams.

  • @nicebluejay
    @nicebluejay Před 28 dny +5

    big fail on the clips format

  • @Tanktaco
    @Tanktaco Před 28 dny +3

    Hey guys, remember when Nate Silver ran the show?

  • @crosher93
    @crosher93 Před 29 dny +3

    I can't imagine a debate would not be another dumpster fire. Trump with shout over everything Biden and the moderator say. Biden won't waste time getting in a shouting match with Trump, which is the only way he'll be able to get any points in.
    Ideally, the moderator will have the ability to mute Trump, which can only help so much, which could lead to Trump refusing to debate, just like in 2020

  • @Luckdraw88
    @Luckdraw88 Před 28 dny +4

    The downvotes will continue until longform returns

  • @iwatchstuff6786
    @iwatchstuff6786 Před 29 dny +2

    This is a fun segment, but another option would just be to say "over estimated", "under estimated", or "about right." It seems like the buy/sell/hold breakdown confuses both people on and listening to the podcast.

  • @Ahpizza186
    @Ahpizza186 Před 26 dny

    Posting these shorter clips of pods increases the chance I'll stop losi

  • @bradleytrainor7856
    @bradleytrainor7856 Před 29 dny +3

    This "buy, sale, hold" thing is a bad idea. I actually had to write down what each buy, sale, hold means to keep up with the opinions' of the commentators. It's just confusing and a distraction. I advise you to do away with it and just have them speak directly to the issue at hand.

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu Před 29 dny

      It's just standard betting terminology because they are using data from the Scottish teens. It's been a thing on the 538 podcast for years (since at least 2019).

  • @bryanismyname7583
    @bryanismyname7583 Před 29 dny

    I think we will see at least one debate.
    But after the way Trump handled debates in 2020,
    I wouldn't count on it changing many minds.

  • @brutishfossil5022
    @brutishfossil5022 Před 26 dny

    Oh please. You won't see Biden in a debate.

  • @benjaminb4407
    @benjaminb4407 Před 29 dny

    No point debating someone in prison.

    • @TrentSLucas
      @TrentSLucas Před 29 dny

      Well, we are a long way away from Biden being held accountable from his crimes since our DOJ has refused to bring charges against Democrats for their obvious crimes. The political persecutions against trump are disintegrating, so Trump won't be the one in jail.

    • @legendg219
      @legendg219 Před 29 dny +1

      You wish that's not gonna happen.

    • @VoiceofRationale
      @VoiceofRationale Před 29 dny +1

      No! Biden is going to be told what a horrible job he has done, we're all going to watch it be KNOWN, and you're going to take it!
      You're not pretending his disaster of a Presidency isn't our reality right now. Enough is enough with you guys. Tired of the blameless attitudes.

  • @dvosburg1966
    @dvosburg1966 Před 29 dny

    Only if Biden is desperate enough.

  • @andrewhaag2422
    @andrewhaag2422 Před 29 dny

    🔥🔥 VOTE BLUE 💙 Up and Down the Ballot in November for the Greater Good of the Country and the WORLD 🔥🔥💙💙🇱🇷💙🇱🇷💙🇱🇷💙🇱🇷💙🇱🇷💙

  • @FF4Ever15
    @FF4Ever15 Před 23 dny

    This aged poorly

  • @error-xn7hn
    @error-xn7hn Před 29 dny +1

    Huh. 80% was my hold. I assumed Biden would push for a debate. But on reflection, even if Trump mixed up Nancy Pelosi with Hillary Clinton on stage it wouldn't change any voters' minds. So probably sell is right.
    Sort of a sad thing to say about the country though and a measure or where we are.

    • @TrentSLucas
      @TrentSLucas Před 29 dny

      Biden's handlers will not allow him to debate. They will come up with some BS like "we shouldn't legitimize this man" or something. The reality is Biden can't even read from a teleprompter, much less think on his feet.
      I agree it is very sad that we are at a place where our political establishment elite are pushing a corpse because he is easy to control.
      Trump 2024!

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu Před 29 dny +2

      It was sell for me because after that last disastrous debate in 2020, they both skipped the usual final debate. Plus Trump has an ego trip thing over the past year where he doesn't think he needs to debate to win (he didn't attend any of the primary debates).

    • @willbarnstead3194
      @willbarnstead3194 Před 29 dny

      @@funtechu I would buy. I don’t want to watch it, I think it’s bad for Biden, but I think Biden is so wedded to tradition he’s going to do it despite his aides telling him not to. Trump knows it will just reinforce the narrative that Biden is too old and he’s also going to want to do it. I really hope they don’t though.

  • @Tom-mo2dr
    @Tom-mo2dr Před 28 dny

    Never happen. Biden would loose a debate with a second grader. She could bribe him with ice cream.

  • @heidi7394
    @heidi7394 Před 29 dny

    The guy on the bottom right needs to take a speaking in public class.
    "...but like I don't but like there's no like in 2020 he also like tried to get out of debates like..."
    ????

  • @VoiceofRationale
    @VoiceofRationale Před 29 dny

    Kaleigh doesn't want Trump asking Biden why he's been such a train wreck of a leader.
    All I am listening to her repeat is hehe Biden doesn't need to make himself a target because of how horrible a President he has been hehe. Biden doesn't see a benefit for being a piñata hehehe
    How obnoxious people have seriously become.

  • @Viajes_cortos
    @Viajes_cortos Před 29 dny +1

    Biden can’t even put 3 words together,how is he suppose to debate ? That’s the million dollar question 😅