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  • Getting the Best Picture from your Super Nintendo! In this episode we cover all of the options for getting the best picture from your Super NES. We also cover and compare 1CHIP SNES revisions and the SNES Mini.
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  • @whitehairvillain36
    @whitehairvillain36 Před 6 lety +150

    Oh man, I scored a super Nintendo from a car boot sale for 4 pounds, opened it up to clean it (because it was pretty dirty) and it was a freaking 1 CHIP! How lucky! It works, too!

    • @Johntron5443
      @Johntron5443 Před 5 lety +11

      Wow that’s crazy

    • @hackercat2
      @hackercat2 Před 5 lety +9

      only 4 pounds? wow.

    • @JRSanchez93
      @JRSanchez93 Před 4 lety +17

      4 pounds? Man that had a lot of dirt :P

    • @ShamanNoodles
      @ShamanNoodles Před 4 lety +4

      Congrats! That kind of find would have me bragging for years =D

    • @codo8584
      @codo8584 Před 3 lety +2

      Damn and I thought finding a Megadrive for a tenner was a bargain!

  • @KrimsonKB
    @KrimsonKB Před 3 lety +51

    I will always say that, to this day, the SNES and Sega Genesis were the best consoles ever made.

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 Před 3 lety +2

      You gotta have both! There are so many great games on them, exclusives, most games ran at 60 frames per second, making gameplay smooth.

    • @PikaStu666
      @PikaStu666 Před rokem +1

      Seeing the Megadrive running Strider and Ghouls n Ghosts for the first time is one of my fondest childhood memories!

    • @antoneckhart4010
      @antoneckhart4010 Před rokem

      @@polycube868 would you by the megaSG? I want a CRT again..really do..a PVM BVM would be great..or a very good CRT.

    • @antoneckhart4010
      @antoneckhart4010 Před rokem +1

      @@polycube868 what do you have?

    • @polycube868
      @polycube868 Před rokem

      @Anton Eckhart I have a Super Famicom (Japanese Super Nintendo) and a Sega Genesis, as for a CRT I have a 27' Emerson from 2005 with a flat picture tube and S video, it's no high end PVM but it's pretty good especially the S video.

  • @Retrofixes
    @Retrofixes Před 9 lety +102

    WOW, This video required some hard work and technical know-how. I appreciate being featured too! It's great seeing the comparisons of all the SNES versions and modern emulation. Glad to see the SNES I modded for you had top notch video quality compared to the others.
    Your entire video series is a great resource for RGB gamers or regular Gamers wondering what all the fuss is about.

    • @kyumaru6
      @kyumaru6 Před 7 lety +1

      RetroFixes, I want a super famicom chip 1, do I get the same quality and sharpness of the snes mini modded?. And is there a way to fit the snes mini modded boards inside a super famicom console?

    • @rerolledDK
      @rerolledDK Před 7 lety +2

      I can't really see much of a difference between 1chip and RGB modded mini. I couldn't see much of a difference on my own consoles, and I couldn't see much of a difference in this video. I RGB modded a mini and used that as my main SNES console until I finally got my hands on a 1-chip Super Famicom. I sold the mini and have no regrets.
      Here's my order of preference among the SNES units with sharp video output.
      1Chip Super Famicom - Looks fantastic on both the screen and on the shelf. Totally worth it even though you will need an adapter to play North American games.
      RGB Modded SNES Mini - Excellent video quality, and the console itself looks pretty nice too. Easily modified to run both Japanese & North American games with no adapters.
      1Chip SNES - Exact same video output as 1chip Super Famicom, but the console itself doesn't look as pretty. Easily made compatible with Japanese games.
      RGB Modded Super Famicom Jr. - No reason to pick this over a SNES Mini. They look almost exactly the same except the SFC Jr. will need an adapter to play American games.

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      @maxtonforrest608 Před 2 lety

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  • @jddeluxe2242
    @jddeluxe2242 Před 8 lety +1

    guys, I just wanted to thank you for making these awesome comprehensive videos... I haven't learned this much from any other you tube channel... keep up the great work!

  • @RobotnikPlays
    @RobotnikPlays Před 7 lety +21

    I had to laugh at 3:53
    "We thought S-Video was the ultimate solution for SNES video quality"
    *[forlorn, sad music] * "But unfortunately, a lot of TV companies stopped supporting it"

    • @Atariatari-ky9te
      @Atariatari-ky9te Před 2 lety +2

      I used to think that RGB Scart or RGB through component was the best way to play retro consoles until I started getting good at fine tuning old crts and lcds (flatscreens) to look the best and compared RGB (fine tuning) to S-Video (fine tuning) and so far S-Video has won every time. I'm not sure if its because S-Video has less saturated colors (and gives more room to fine tune) but I play all my consoles with S-Video if possible now and RGB scart or component second if S-Video is not available on a console. In my opinion S-Video at its best can look better than RGB. I know supposedly S-Video is taking the picture from RGB but S-Video looks better when both images are fine tuned. The colors look better in S-Video and S-Video has a cleaner image in motion.
      S-Video with a good hi quality gold plated cable gives the same sharpness and brightness as hi quality gold plated scart and gold plated component cables but the difference is the color which might look better at a first glance in RGB with the TV's standard or reset options but when fine tuning for RGB Scart or RGB Component and S-Video. S-Video looks better and even the color looks better and in motion S-Video looks better.
      Now for the ones who dont have access to S-Video or RGB Scart or RGB Component.
      Remember if you are using Composite. A hi quality gold plated composite cable will look a lot better than the original cable and the same with RF.
      I have a hi quality gold plated rf cable that looks better than what the original consoles rf cable does image and sound wise.
      But to keep it simple Hi Quality Gold Plated cables are the best.

  • @eddie_revox
    @eddie_revox Před 8 lety +16

    Seriously - this video is really, really well done. Great job guys! :)

  • @eteres-n6g
    @eteres-n6g Před 2 lety

    that intro of your videos is BEAUTIFUL!!! it takes me back to 80´s and 90´s like magic!

  • @ehyouman
    @ehyouman Před 8 lety

    This channel has helped me so much setting up my sony pvm, keep the quality coming guys!

  • @takashiph.d.7413
    @takashiph.d.7413 Před 4 lety +12

    The production quality of these videos is truly outstanding - someone is doing a lot of work ~ !
    Nice tune too.
    Thanks.

  • @Michirin9801
    @Michirin9801 Před 9 lety +5

    Great video guys! I didn't know about all these different revisions of the SNES and how different their video output works...

  • @djcalle1975
    @djcalle1975 Před 8 lety

    Awesome job guys! Very well put together video!!! I knew most of this from weeks of research reading lengthy forum threads. Oh how I wish I would have watched this video first :) the added visuals and comprehensive information about each option makes this the ultimate guide the SNES video outputs.

  • @MichaelDBaker
    @MichaelDBaker Před 6 lety +2

    I just noticed how Yoshi jumps at the same time that Coury mentions a "jump in quality" at 3:49 . Well played! This video is a work of art.

  • @darthv72
    @darthv72 Před 9 lety +5

    i've been using RGB on my snes and jag and genesis for years. thanks to custom cables and a Commodore 1084s monitor. it may be small but man what clarity. Good video.

  • @TheBurleybrawler
    @TheBurleybrawler Před 8 lety +3

    Used to play on a CRT via scart back in 91 and always thought it looked way better than friends systems. Didn't think it would get better than that but wow some really good tips in this video.

  • @CollinKenny
    @CollinKenny Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you so much. I upgraded to a scart cable from composite and was amazed at the difference. You guys rock!

  • @clutchkman
    @clutchkman Před 5 lety +2

    I’m glad you guys mentioned those vertical lines on dark screens. I was sure there was something wrong with my setup (s-video on a crt) otherwise it looks fantastic. I’m relieved. Great video!

  • @SuperDerek
    @SuperDerek Před 9 lety +45

    Excellent work guys! I've got an SNES Mini that I restored S-Video on and love it. Still gotta look into restoring RGB. Excited to hear that it has (arguably) the best RGB output. :)

    • @TheMamaluigi300
      @TheMamaluigi300 Před 6 lety +8

      SuperDerek RPGs I dunno how you restored S-video without restoring RGB

  • @plutterton
    @plutterton Před 8 lety +51

    I come for the insertion shots.

  • @damiendelacruz728
    @damiendelacruz728 Před 5 lety +2

    The thing I love about your videos is that you add little sound effects

  • @rpggamer8930
    @rpggamer8930 Před 6 lety

    Very informative been trying to get better quality out of my snes for awhile and this has set me on the right track.

  • @crunchsixfoe
    @crunchsixfoe Před 8 lety +9

    Really loving this RGB series. I now have an excellent resource to send to people who always ask "Is RGB really worth it/THAT different/etc."

    • @RideRedRacer
      @RideRedRacer Před 8 lety

      +Crunch Foe i did RGB to 5 retros and its totally worth it

    • @crunchsixfoe
      @crunchsixfoe Před 8 lety

      +RideRedRacer I can't go back to anything less now, lol

    • @RideRedRacer
      @RideRedRacer Před 8 lety

      oh ya definitely not. haha

  • @danxepha4535
    @danxepha4535 Před 7 lety +7

    I used RGB SCART on my SNES and my Master System before that. It was the only way to play back then!
    It still amazes me that RGB just wasn't an option in the US. I can't imagine watching DVDs over S-video or composite and being happy with it. Its like you never actually got to see how good DVD video can actually looked.

    • @lexibigcheese
      @lexibigcheese Před 7 lety

      Dan Xepha GB bros?

    • @Ballowax
      @Ballowax Před 5 lety

      Funny DVD content over composite on a 13 inch CRT blows VHS out of the water

  • @grantz9234
    @grantz9234 Před rokem

    That opining closing music is so awesome!!! It's very nostalgic for me.
    Subscribed!

  • @TheGeneralBrent
    @TheGeneralBrent Před 7 lety

    This channel needs more subs. It has some of the best technical knowledge for retro gamers around.

  • @TheN0rmak
    @TheN0rmak Před 5 lety +18

    2:13 The bit about "mind blowing 3D" not being possible on direct competition is incorrect. Sega did the exact same thing as Nintendo by releasing Virtua Racing on the Genesis in full 3D using a special chip in the cartridge.

    • @Nikku4211
      @Nikku4211 Před 3 lety +2

      And the Mega Drive's own CPU is also better for 3D without enhancement chips as well due to its multiplication and division capabilities.

    • @GraveUypo
      @GraveUypo Před 2 lety +1

      @@Nikku4211 not to mention the frequency which is basically double of the snes's.

  • @_The_Worst_
    @_The_Worst_ Před 2 lety +3

    The Super Nintendo is such a magnificent console...🤘🏼❤️💯✔️

  • @King_K_Rool_
    @King_K_Rool_ Před 3 lety +2

    Hey, just wanted to let you know that I took your advice and got a Snes Jr and got it RGB modded. Never thought I would ever see such amazing picture from an original snes console. Thanks a ton guys!

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 3 lety

      [Try4ce] Great to hear! That is also my main SNES these days!

    • @King_K_Rool_
      @King_K_Rool_ Před 3 lety +2

      @@mylifeingaming Honestly half my setup is as good as it is down to your amazing videos!

  • @robobin
    @robobin Před 8 lety

    I'm in love with your show, guys! Keep up the amazing work! You've earned a Subscriber that's here to stay

  • @DavidMarsden
    @DavidMarsden Před 8 lety +41

    I'd love a video on different lightguns. How they work and how to get the best experience with each.

    • @HerringandChips
      @HerringandChips Před 7 lety +5

      I watched it. Great technically and I love that guys stuff. But not as instructional as MLIG usually is. It's why they're so great and unique.

    • @mychaair
      @mychaair Před 7 lety

      Herring and Chips

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 Před 2 lety

      The Sinden light gun might be able to help there. 😁

  • @Sinn0100
    @Sinn0100 Před 5 lety +4

    The Super Famicom looked like such a cool machine. I had a Sega Genesis when I got my SNES in 1991. I remember opening it and thinking...what did they do too you. The purple looks so stupid that I actually kept my SNES hidden inside my entertainment center in my bedroom.
    I was a pretty lucky kid as I had two TV's in my bedroom one big screen and a 32 inch CRT screen. My Genesis/Sega CD was permanently connected to my big screen and the SNES was connected to my 32 inch (colors popped better on the CRT and the depth looked so much better on the big screen for my Genesis). Plus I am and will always be a Sega diehard. That does not mean I disliked the Snes... oh no, I love that machine equally to my beloved Genesis and that is saying alot about the quality of the SNES. I do not feel the same about the original Nes.
    I can't do these modifications to my consoles as I want them to stay as they are. It is very interesting just not enough for me to crack them open. Very informative and fun video, I learned quite a bit. I might consider buying a second SNES and Genesis to mod... just not my consoles from my childhood (I have them all with their original packaging from the years they came out- Genesis '89, SNES '91, and Sega CD '92 too name a few). My SNES and Nes are not yellowed at all.

  • @sewart
    @sewart Před 9 lety

    Great video as always. I've been generally disappointed with the RGB signal from my original Super Famicom. Up until this video I'd been considering tracking down a SNES instead. Now you've got me convinced I just need to mod my mini!

  • @paragon722
    @paragon722 Před rokem +1

    2022 purchaser here. I went with a launch model snes through S-Video. Really sharp on a 04 CRt Flat. Gives it a crisp look without going overboard.

  • @licensedblockhead
    @licensedblockhead Před 8 lety +211

    >be me age 20 university student
    >i see new "my life in gaming video"
    >oh one about snes (hellyeah.jpg)
    >i am enlightened
    >rgb, pvm, 1-chip... but i am just a s-video lcd peasant
    >the retro master race has asked me to join
    >i accept
    >buy pvm (lookslikabeautifulwomen.png)
    >get 1-chip, and scart cables
    >suddenly i ascend to the heavens
    >thisisitbaby
    >i leave my life behind to become a pixel elitist
    >spend 200 bucks on outdated electronics for games i can play for free on my computer
    >worth

  • @BladeBlur
    @BladeBlur Před 9 lety +5

    Amazing episode and you deserve a medal for working so hard on this episode. I actually wanted the Mini mostly because of the design, kind of like how I prefer the top loader NES over the front one. I just don't like the design of the US SNES as much as the Famicom or the Mini, and getting a mini, and I also seen modes with the LED light installed so I might go that route. Plus, my system has a NU3 serial number but for some reason it works with the CSYNC cable I got for it so it might be a 1CHIP-2 or something. I wish I had a way to open up my console.
    Thanks for explaining the SNES guys, I would be more lost without it!

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety +3

      +BladeBlurX [Try4ce] You know, some cables that I bought as CSYNC worked in the 1CHIP-03 I borrowed... made me nervous, because I was like, oh no, was that just misinformation out there, and now I gotta change the script AGAIN? I opened the system to confirm it was 03, and it was... but then I tried the same cable on my N64 and it worked (it shouldn't have). I got out another CSYNC cable, and it worked with neither the N64 or the 03... so, mystery solved. I don't know WHAT that cable is, but it's not CSYNC.
      As for the Mini, I have to confess that I've grown rather attached to its design myself. I used to not think that much of it, but after I got my own, I started to think it had some pretty sleek contours. The LED installed in mine is maybe just a tad too bright, though it doesn't bother me anymore... nice touch making it purple to match everything. I sorta miss the eject button, though it does release carts quite easily! While the Japanese/PAL design of the original larger console is pretty nice, I feel like I've never understood the argument that it was waaay better than the US SNES... it's not my all-time favorite console design or anything, but I like it just fine.

    • @BladeBlur
      @BladeBlur Před 9 lety

      +My Life in Gaming The cable I originally got worked on the SNES AND the N64 so I figured it might be the 02.
      I guess I just don't like the blockiness feeling of it, and the famicom just looks slicker. It doesn't make it bad or anything, just preference.

    • @RedArremer
      @RedArremer Před 9 lety

      +My Life in Gaming Sounds like the cable-maker either fibbed or made a mistake on the claim of it being csync-based. I remember when I got my 1CHIP-03, the csync RGB cable I had showed nothing but a blank screen. That's when I learned about the 03's not having csync hooked up and had to restore it myself with a mod.

  • @almighty1984
    @almighty1984 Před 8 lety

    Love these videos. I installed the RetroRGB chip in my Super Famicom Jr and it looks amazing.

  • @MoonSpiritChannel
    @MoonSpiritChannel Před 9 lety +1

    Damn, I'm swimming in so much information. I can already wager a guess my SNES is the early one since it's been yellowed for a long time and I got it for as long as I can remember. Thanks for this, and now I'll be saving this so I can get the best quality for my SNES.

  • @nabman11
    @nabman11 Před 8 lety +39

    6:45 Here come dat boi

  • @solarstrike33
    @solarstrike33 Před 8 lety +10

    *I. CAN'T. RECOMMEND. YOU. GUYS. ENOUGH.*

  • @errornosignal
    @errornosignal Před 7 lety

    I think I watch this at least once a week...
    YOU GUYS ARE GODS!!!

  • @RDJ134
    @RDJ134 Před 9 lety +1

    Thank you for this video, i whas waiting for it :)
    Recently i got a PAL SNES (i live in Europe) and it suprised me how clean the image whas from it on my HD TV. Normaly i can be a pain in the ass on image of old consoles, but this whas better then i imagend. Signal in goes trough the red, white and yellow plugs.
    Great informative video, always a watch for every retro video gamer.

  • @MellowGaming
    @MellowGaming Před 9 lety +4

    Man I can see why this got real complex. So many little caveats to the image quality. I'm looking forward to those HD Retrovision cables coming out. Seems like quite a decent quality image from them.
    Look forward to more of these, particularly Saturn and Gamecube. There's some weirdness with regional configurations of those machines where the output abilities were changed for reasons.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety +1

      +Mellow Gaming [Try4ce] The HD Retrovision cables are really good - I hope the SD captures and the direct-to-TV off-screen shots do them justice... I didn't want to do the full Framemeister upscale deal to not cause confusion about what they can do, but through the Framemeister, it's just as sharp as you would hope. I'm really looking forward to using them with my CRT!

    • @videogamepolak0
      @videogamepolak0 Před 9 lety

      +My Life in Gaming CRT is the only way to go with RGB, or if you can get one a PVM - Video monitor that has RGB....LCD is just a waste imho hence why people are scooping up sony tritrons and wegas

    • @lukasperuzovic1429
      @lukasperuzovic1429 Před 9 lety

      +VideoGame Polak Sad thing is I just recently helped someone take a 13 yr old old Sony Vega to the dump. The TV gave up the ghost and the repair cost was some $300. If it was a easier repair I would taken the Wega myself, but at $300 I can find another working model for less. Part of the issue with the old CRT screens is there no clue how much life these displays has left.

    • @Waifu4Life
      @Waifu4Life Před 9 lety

      +VideoGame Polak
      I use to say the same thing before I had an XRGB-Mini. Can't tell you how good it feels to put away the old CRT and make room for better stuff. I redid my entire living room, lot more space and looks a lot better than before.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 Před 9 lety +1

      +theimporter one bad thing about newer LCD, and Plasma TV's are the fact that you can't play old school light gun games on them, which is why I keep a 32in Panasonic CRT with S-video, and component in the den near my fireplace when I want to pull out my NES, Master system, or SNES from storage for those games

  • @wielku
    @wielku Před 9 lety +3

    I really love those technical videos :D

  • @arturboy777
    @arturboy777 Před 9 lety +1

    I love the comparisons that you guys do, they're are the best. And I also love how how you also explore options for people that don't want to spend too much time and money.
    I know that you guys are focusing on 2D retro consoles, but I was wondering if videos about getting the best quality on the Gamecube could eventually come somewhere in the future.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety

      +arturboy [Try4ce] Thanks! We never want anyone to feel bad about using a simpler (cheaper!) solution. If you're happy with it, that's all that matters. That's why we present as many options and considerations as we can... what's right for our setups may not be right for yours.
      We will definitely get to consoles like Gamecube, PS2, etc. in the future. It's my understanding that there's about to be some breakthroughs in the Gamecube world, so that's pretty exciting!

  • @JebberGamingJaws
    @JebberGamingJaws Před 6 lety

    Welp, you guys got me convinced. My 1 chip and retrovision components are coming in the mail. I am stoked!

  • @ren.batista
    @ren.batista Před 3 lety +3

    I really enjoyed the video, but for starters like me, it's still a bit confusing to understand what is a good (not necessarily the best) configuration without having to spend much or making any mods.
    So, 1 Chip + Component cables, I assume?

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 3 lety +3

      [Try4ce] This video is quite old and plenty of options have come since. Before you buy another console model, I'd try what you already have with the RetroTINK-2X MINI. While it does not support RGB or component, it does composite and S-video, and even includes a solid SNES S-video cable. It's a softer picture than something like the OSSC or Framemeister, but it's a HUGE jump up over a direct composite connection to an HDTV, and you'll have less input lag to boot. I think it's easily the best and most affordable starting point for your kind of situation.

  • @Microwave414
    @Microwave414 Před 8 lety +3

    For april fools you guys should do an RGB2XX series for the vectrex.

  • @JohnDoe-uu6jl
    @JohnDoe-uu6jl Před 8 lety +1

    Such a well produced show, well done guys, subscribed

  • @DayOneWhite
    @DayOneWhite Před 9 lety +1

    Thanks for the info! I've been wondering how to make my SNES look better and your video was definitely the most informative.
    -Fanta

    • @RickyRicardo135
      @RickyRicardo135 Před 8 lety

      Hey Fanta, big fan of you and Whites channel. I also live in Tucson and also do some game hunting every once in awhile, mostly on the south side of town though. Anyways, yeah I have a Framemeister and it is definately the best way to play games on an HDTV. RGB makes all the games feel fresh and new. These videos are the most informative and give the best explanations on how to improve your video quality. Good luck.

  • @richfiles
    @richfiles Před 7 lety +10

    Have there been any developments on tracking down the source of the blur in 2 chip SNES consoles? I know the 1 chip has such a clearer image out of the box, which makes it _easy_, but it'd be nice to see if progress is possible with the 2 chip, considering it is not affected by the odd glitches the 1 chip experiences... Also I have a 2 chip! :P

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel Před 2 lety +2

      I heard that someone might’ve figured it out the other day, but I just heard the rumour, I don’t know more yet

    • @Roboat06
      @Roboat06 Před 2 lety +1

      @@justanotheryoutubechannel After doing some research, it seems like a Japanese modder developed some sort of solution in 2019 or so. This went completely over people's heads, it seems; understandable why Try and Coury haven't covered it.

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel

    The 1Chip-02 looks so much better than the other ones.

  • @danieldussault
    @danieldussault Před 8 lety

    These videos are well produced and have actual applicable info. Surprised these don't have more views.

    • @billschlafly4107
      @billschlafly4107 Před 8 lety

      +daniel dussault It took them over a minute to get to the stuff we are looking for based on the title. I almost gave up and that would have likely caused me to block the channel. I may sub even though my old eyes don't freaking care about this vid. Composite is good enough for me. I have a 1 chip and it sits in the box because...I like it there.

    • @magacop5180
      @magacop5180 Před 8 lety

      +Ted Soto you are old.

  • @w1sh4w1ngsthtwrk
    @w1sh4w1ngsthtwrk Před 8 lety +1

    As one earlier comment suggests, the vertical lines on older SNES's can be deleted by soldering a pair of 220uf/25v capacitors to pin 1 and pin 5 of the video encoder chip (BA6592F) and the +5vdc and ground pins of the 7805 voltage regulators. There are other instructional videos on CZcams for this mod for those who don't have the option of RGB video output.

  • @Vertmart
    @Vertmart Před 8 lety +31

    1Chip02 looks best to me

    • @TheYzeman
      @TheYzeman Před 8 lety +15

      I think I agree but....it's really splitting hairs. I think I'd happy with any RGB unit.

    • @Sebastian-xy3xk
      @Sebastian-xy3xk Před 7 lety +3

      The newer RGB Pre-Made mod parts for SNES Mini as well as 1Chip consoles (THS7374 not THS7314) are better than any version as they completely bypass any internal "fuzzing" even if it is slightly

    • @RoomerJ
      @RoomerJ Před 7 lety +1

      It's like they just copy and paste Retrorgb and hook it up to an HD TV. It's so cringey. Feels like my 60 year old father is making a "best" video videos with zero tech knowledge other than Google. And good lord stop telling people to use HDTVs

    • @merlingt1
      @merlingt1 Před 7 lety +2

      RoomerJ cool story

    • @DannyCD
      @DannyCD Před 7 lety +1

      It really does look best, but the slower Super FX gameplay speed on 1CHIPs is a deal breaker for me. I like the _smoothness_ picture quality of an older SNES from the early 90s.

  • @ggallin1484
    @ggallin1484 Před 8 lety +5

    just got my framemeister today (new Zealand customs is a bitch). so worth it

  • @willeysingleton3057
    @willeysingleton3057 Před 5 lety

    Wooooow, I started taking your class two days ago been burning threw videos like crazy, im a huge game collector and gamer.
    a real old man wither of video games starting with arcades and the commodore 64,. iv worked my magic and collected numerous stuff sens 1988. I was hoping to start a channel about game history, and streaming a few times a month was looking into the Retrotink 2x when i stumbled into your channel.
    You are selling me on the Framister everything looks amazing in RGB. unfortunately its way out of my budget and im still set on the retrotink for now,. but ooooh boy the more i watch these vids the more i wanna dive into RGB output. AMAZING.

  • @RetroPCUser
    @RetroPCUser Před 8 lety

    Purchased an SNES off of the Goodwill Auction web site for &29 + S&H, the earlier model starting with UN14. I also purchased Super Mario Bros. All Stars, a universal adapter for NES, SNES, and Genesis model 1; as well as the AV cable at my local Disc Replay shop. Can't wait to play SMBAS with my Sony PVM-9L1.

  • @PocketUau
    @PocketUau Před 8 lety +11

    So my grampa was clearing out his garage and giving out my brother's old toys to kids, when he had one last box left. He brought it to me and said "take a look if you are interested", and I pissed my pants when I saw a PAL SNES in a box. Everything was included and the console was LITERALLY brand new!!! 0 scratches, no yellowing, no oxidizing and the controllers were basically new! Now I'm playing with my 28 year old cousin's SNES almost every week 2-3 times because it deserves a spot next to my Wii U!

    • @rafaelmiranda958
      @rafaelmiranda958 Před 8 lety +2

      Lol you have so much lucky!

    • @PocketUau
      @PocketUau Před 7 lety

      I think i'll take the purest way and stick to using a 10 inch crt tv with component. It looks miles better than on an HDMI and I won't have to spend extra money because everything was already in the box :D

  • @JoinTheVoidOfEnuo
    @JoinTheVoidOfEnuo Před 7 lety +3

    Been meaning to ask this for a while but I kept forgetting to: a while back, I bought an SNES (original model) and a C-Sync SCART cable from retro_console_accesories on eBay. Despite making sure to get the C-Sync version of the cable and not Sync-on-Composite, I still get a strong checkerboard effect when playing the SNES. Any idea as to why that could be?

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 7 lety +1

      [Try4ce] Hmmm I wonder if the wrong cable could've been sent. I've never seen checkerboarding with CSYNC, unless you're using a switcher and more noise is being introduced. I strongly recommend the "multicore upgrade" that retro_console_accessories offers... it does make the cables pretty expensive, but it helps suppress both audio noise and video noise pretty significantly, especially when using a switcher. It even makes it so that sync-on-composite looks just as good as sync-on-luma and CSYNC.

    • @superllama5
      @superllama5 Před 7 lety

      I'm getting the same problem. Do you guys think it's because I'm using a passive sync SCART adapter to my XRGB Mini?

    • @patricktamu1
      @patricktamu1 Před 7 lety +1

      I had an issue similar to this, and it turned out to be the console. I bought another SNES console and that fixed the problem. Is this what you see: www.videogameperfection.com/forums/topic/using-snes-getting-checkerboard-on-some-solid-colors/

  • @SinfulKilla
    @SinfulKilla Před 8 lety

    Hey Thanks guys for making this video this video will help me out getting the actually console of a SNES and other retro consoles as well.

  • @JamieOrlando
    @JamieOrlando Před 9 lety +1

    Great video and everything is well researched. Thanks for the hard work!

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond Před 8 lety +8

    "The 7th Mode, Mode 7"
    Technically it's the 8th mode. What would you call Mode 0? The Zeroth mode?
    Plus the AV MultiOut was first used in the AV Famicom.

  • @jonoghue
    @jonoghue Před 8 lety +11

    the lines at 8:57 can be heavily reduced by adding capacitors to the voltage regulator and the video encoder chip.

  • @spiritcore5603
    @spiritcore5603 Před 9 lety

    I sent my SNES mini to Wes from Retro Fixes last week for an RGB mod. Now that I know about the THS7314, I'm more excited than ever to try out my modded console once I get it back. As always, thanks for such an excellent video, Try4ce and Coury.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety

      +spiritcore [Try4ce] Wes reviewed our script for technical accuracy, and while I knew nothing of the RGB mod parts previously, I was surprised to learn that it was why the vertical line is basically completely gone!

  • @elModo7
    @elModo7 Před 8 lety +2

    1:56 It's great to hear about oneself from time to time

  • @Atariatari-ky9te
    @Atariatari-ky9te Před 2 lety +3

    I used to think that RGB Scart or RGB through component was the best way to play retro consoles until I started getting good at fine tuning old crts and lcds (flatscreens) to look the best and compared RGB (fine tuning) to S-Video (fine tuning) and so far S-Video has won every time. I'm not sure if its because S-Video has less saturated colors (and gives more room to fine tune) but I play all my consoles with S-Video if possible now and RGB scart or component second if S-Video is not available on a console. In my opinion S-Video at its best can look better than RGB. I know supposedly S-Video is taking the picture from RGB but S-Video looks better when both images are fine tuned. The colors look better in S-Video and S-Video has a cleaner image in motion.
    S-Video with a good hi quality gold plated cable gives the same sharpness and brightness as hi quality gold plated scart and gold plated component cables but the difference is the color which might look better at a first glance in RGB with the TV's standard or reset options but when fine tuning for RGB Scart or RGB Component and S-Video. S-Video looks better and even the color looks better and in motion S-Video looks better.
    Now for the ones who dont have access to S-Video or RGB Scart or RGB Component.
    Remember if you are using Composite. A hi quality gold plated composite cable will look a lot better than the original cable and the same with RF.
    I have a hi quality gold plated rf cable that looks better than what the original consoles rf cable does image and sound wise.
    But to keep it simple Hi Quality Gold Plated cables are the best.

  • @TiberiusWallace
    @TiberiusWallace Před 7 lety +10

    You guys really hard sell the Framemeister.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 7 lety +10

      +RangerParus check out this video where we present over 30 minutes worth of alternatives to the Framemeister czcams.com/video/lHoOKLWIMKU/video.html

    • @mathewtylerjordan5044
      @mathewtylerjordan5044 Před 7 lety

      I was going to say. I have an upscaler and it converts to HDMI and I purchased it for 45. Works great.

    • @tinostarks
      @tinostarks Před 7 lety +11

      no it doesn't, good $45 scalers don't exist.

    • @TiberiusWallace
      @TiberiusWallace Před 7 lety +1

      I do find the obsession for having expensive high end tech and equipment snobbery amusing when you're talking 240/480.

    • @tinostarks
      @tinostarks Před 7 lety +6

      Tiberius Wallace snobbery? not even, its more about getting it to work properly, unfortunately there are only 2-4 devices out there that handle the signal properly and they cost what they cost.

  • @Seanbyford
    @Seanbyford Před 8 lety

    Stumbled upon you guys on CZcams recently...excellent channel!

  • @bal9717
    @bal9717 Před 6 lety

    Just reflowed all joints on a free oem SNES ac adapter and its alive again! s-video looks good!

  • @karlwalker1771
    @karlwalker1771 Před 5 lety +3

    Emulation is the way to go!
    A up to date graphics card and a i 5XXX will be acceptable in emulating the system!

    • @newphilmz3605
      @newphilmz3605 Před 5 lety

      Emulation has glitches and graphical errors

  • @PabloCandybarbarian
    @PabloCandybarbarian Před 9 lety +6

    You know, as someone with a 1CHIP-03 CSync modded Super Famicom and 2 SNES Minis w/ RGB + CSYNC.. I cannot disagree with this episode at all.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety +5

      +Fy S [Try4ce] Took a lot to get all the facts straight! I was very impressed with how well the 1CHIPs (and the Mini) hold up to each other side-by-side. For all of the debate surrounding the differences between 1CHIP revisions, at the end of the day, the differences are so negligible compared to the huge jump in picture quality that any 1CHIP or modded Mini has when upgrading from the older systems.

    • @NintendoGamer2600
      @NintendoGamer2600 Před 7 lety

      My Life in Gaming The SNES ACTUALLY shipped with BOTH THE RF SWITCH AND COMPOSITE VIDEO AND STEREO SOUND CABLES.

  • @MBOFOYH
    @MBOFOYH Před 3 lety

    The line in the background went away when I used a DC lithium battery to power the snes, instead of any ac to dc power adapter. No console mods or chip replacement was necessary. I plan to make a new video about this soon.

  • @felixg9893
    @felixg9893 Před 7 lety

    Such a well made video, I love everything about this.

  • @gasketsnotyetblown9467
    @gasketsnotyetblown9467 Před 7 lety +3

    Try4ce
    Triforce
    just realised

  • @samuelchurch5124
    @samuelchurch5124 Před 6 lety +23

    "While 2-D game design was arguably perfected." and then the Sega Saturn happened.

  • @container7737
    @container7737 Před 8 lety

    Thank you so much for this! I have a Snes Jr and I'm strongly considering sending it to RetroFixes.

  • @bbb.b3
    @bbb.b3 Před rokem +1

    The european SCART plug supports Composite Video, S-Video and RGB all in one and this three signals can be used as input or output. For to use a S-Video cable you only need a simple adapter plug that has S-Video input female plug and a Scart output male plug, and be sure that the TV suport this signal. I have a old Phillips TV that has two SCART ports and one of this supports the three types of signals and the other one only Composite Video.

  • @daniocampo1992
    @daniocampo1992 Před 7 lety +5

    Too bad you need expensive upscalers to obtain these

    • @zanegandini5350
      @zanegandini5350 Před 6 lety

      Actually, you don't. Yeah the Framemeister is the ultimate in upscaling capabilities, but you can get cheaper alternatives that have only minor differences in video output quality. For $40 or less, you can buy SCART-to-HDMI upscalers that look good enough compared to the Framemeister. I did that and it looks just fine on an HDTV.

    • @ricardolima9411
      @ricardolima9411 Před 5 lety

      OSSC is cheap tho.

  • @SalasBarnaby
    @SalasBarnaby Před 6 lety +3

    5:20 Just say it, the Genesis simply looks better. Say it. Saaaayyyy iiiiiiit!!!

  • @takashiph.d.7413
    @takashiph.d.7413 Před 4 lety +1

    I bought a SNES console off eBay for $35.00 that turned out to be a 1 Chip (02, I think). Works great too. Surprised myself with that one.

  • @CivilizedMenKilledMe
    @CivilizedMenKilledMe Před 7 lety

    That was not what I was looking for, but this video clarified many doubts hardware.
    What I was looking for were emulators that allow intercept converting sprites for high resolution. Users intersect, for example, a 16x16-bit sprite and convert to 64x64 increasing when defining the graphic.

  • @rodmunch69
    @rodmunch69 Před 6 lety +3

    Only nerds had the SNES, all the kewl kids had a Genesis.

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 6 lety +2

      Who buys consoles? Parents. It was a little kids system, the kewl kids had a Genesis and they'd go around punching SNES nerds in the mouth.

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 6 lety +1

      Let me guess, you're 11 years old, right?

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 6 lety

      Bobofett 72 well if you were alive back then and a teen you’d know Sega completely owned the “cool” factor of the day, and nerds that went around talking about their SNES were taunted and mocked. It’s just the way it was. The SNES was lame, it’s what little kids got so they could play Mario, and it’s what parents bought kids who were overly mothered. The SNES nerd peak was the censored Mortal Kombat game - after that Nintendo finally caught onto the fact only mommas boys and nerds and little kids bought the thing - so they finally changed it up, said no more censoring of games, got new advertising and then they started to explode in sales. But even that had more to do with Sebastian botching their lead with the Sega CD and 32X.

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 6 lety

      Donkey Kong Country wasn't cool - and it's an awful game - probably the most overrated game ever created in terms of the hype it gets. It had really good graphics at the time, but the game itself was garbage, and also it's aged terrible, it's now quite an ugly game. Anywho by the time DKC came Sega was already on to the 32X after Sega of Japan had completely given up the Genesis. Regardless the SNES was never cool. Also those Sega kids that were teens when the Genesis came out, by the mid 90s they were moving out of their home, because back in the 90s that's what you did, only nerds that played the SNES lived with their parents after turning 18. So when you're 18-19-20 and going to college and/or have a job and you don't live at home, you're not worried about playing videos games, you're worried about getting poontang. Plus Sega priced themselves out of the entry level market because they flooded the market with so many devices, the Genesis, the Sega CD, the 32X, the Nomad, the GameGear, the PICO, the CDX and finally the Saturn. Meanwhile the SNES was what the kid on welfare could afford since that's all they had to get.

    • @derpypedro9589
      @derpypedro9589 Před 6 lety

      Only peasants argued over snes vs sega...the coolest kids had both along with backup devices and played pirated games from floppy disk lol

  • @maziku4749
    @maziku4749 Před 8 lety

    this is a great channel. kinda makes me want to buy a snes now and relive my past lol

  • @bennahum9642
    @bennahum9642 Před 9 lety

    Amazing video, I learned so much! Can't wait to get home and check my cables and console (I own a 1CHIP, dunno which yet, up until now I didn't think it mattered).
    As far as I know this video is the only place to go for an "all in one guide" on this rather troublesome console and I will recommend it to anyone who asks me about it, in fact, I already did.
    Do you guys plan on doing a video explaining the various models and board revisions of the Genesis/MD? That would rock!

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety

      +Ben Nahum [Coury] Thanks! Thats the kind of thing we strive for with these, is to make it as easy to understand while cramming in as much as we possibly can.
      Genesis wise, while we did a RGB video on the system already, I'd LOVE to do a video on the different model revisions. Specifically the audio quality. I have a friend who has a TON of Genesis consoles and he believes he has at least one of every kind. So, here's hoping!

  • @DavetheNESGuy
    @DavetheNESGuy Před 8 lety

    Had no idea about the 1-Chip thing. Amazing. Thanks again for a great video.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 8 lety

      +DavetheNESGuy [Try4ce] I actually thought I did have a 1CHIP system for a long time, simply because it was bought a bit later... but that turned out to not be true. I thought that even the 1CHIP consoles must not be all that good! But yeah, that's why I later bought the modded Mini.

    • @DavetheNESGuy
      @DavetheNESGuy Před 8 lety

      I also want to add that you guys are bang on about the image comparison quality for the SNES and Genesis. The difference is noticeable with the Framemiester. Now, I'm off to check on my SNES collection to see I have the golden ticket :)

  • @omegawinstar3644
    @omegawinstar3644 Před 7 lety

    its a good thing a have A Crt in my room soo much better and using it with s video instead of RGB i love your videos guys keep it up!

  • @OGM_OriginalGameMusic
    @OGM_OriginalGameMusic Před 2 lety

    I didn't realise the 1st batch of SNES consoles had such soft RGB picture. I heard you mention it before but waw.

  • @kkzooi
    @kkzooi Před 4 lety +1

    i got us carts to fit in my super famicom by filing away some ot the plastic in the cartridgeslot. works great.

  • @segasdreamer
    @segasdreamer Před 8 lety

    I S Video modded my SNES Mini and it's really good. I'm not in any mood for RGB, but S Video was one that I most used for my older SNES and N64.

  • @Cowclops
    @Cowclops Před 8 lety

    You guys have the same Toshiba TV as me that I see in the background of your reviews. Its pretty nice, but your videos convined me to hunt down a Sonyy PVM (I got a PVML2) and the RGB cable for my SNES. Games look freaking AMAZING in this configuration.
    I think I'd agree with your summary that composite->svideo is a much bigger jump than s-video to RGB, and if you hypothetically hacked a straight RGB signal into that Toshiba set you might not even be able to tell the difference, I do consistently notice one major benefit to RGB. Any time red is layered on top of another color, it smears horizontally with s-video, so you lose some color definition. One of the best comparisons i noticed was the heart life meter in Link to The Past... red hearts with a white outline on an often-green background. Thats color-smear city.
    I don't know if you address it in any of your videos, but I'd say, for example, component video is just as good as RGB though there may be system specific exceptions. Since, in either case, you're skipping the awful NTSC amplitude/phase modulated color signal, you're getting nearly full color bandwidth even if a specific system has to go RGB->Component and then your TV does Component->RGB.
    Just sharing my thoughts, but all in all, thanks for enlightening me on RGB gaming on pro monitors - the differences between s-video and RGB may be subtle, but the difference between a basic TV w/ svideo vs a sony RGB monitor are NOT subtle.

  • @bootscootinbabey
    @bootscootinbabey Před 8 lety

    I love all your videos!

  • @egitkrofl
    @egitkrofl Před 8 lety +1

    Great video. Not a big fan of the XRGB mini myself though, I'm using a Sony PVM instead, mostly because of the low input lag and beautiful looking scanlines.

  • @anthonymccurter894
    @anthonymccurter894 Před 7 lety

    I've had the snes mini my whole life and used Rf up until a year ago.. it had a little switch box that went into the multi out and came with the system

  • @BlockABoots
    @BlockABoots Před 9 lety

    Hugs my 2 modded Snes Mini's!!!! At least PAL regions got one thing right with the RGB Scart lead!.
    Great informative video, thanks!!

  • @Jay84476
    @Jay84476 Před 5 lety

    Still going to say this, My Life In Gaming IS the best channel on youtube! convinced me to get my n64 ultra hdmi modded

    • @Jay84476
      @Jay84476 Před 5 lety

      also please do a video on australian consoles vs american consoles

  • @rafadorock4
    @rafadorock4 Před 8 lety

    For the central stripe on the screen, I discovered a capacitor issue on the video output. There are 2 of them. Replaced them and now it is pretty fine. See ya.

  • @wilbourke4188
    @wilbourke4188 Před 5 lety

    Hey, a Smash Ultimate ad played before i was about to watch this! What a coincidence!

  • @robvelor
    @robvelor Před 9 lety

    1CHIP serials typically go from UN31 onwards*, I have 1CHIP-03 with serial starting with UN321 (circa 1995), hope this helps someone in the lookout. The mod to get CSYNC from 1CHIP-03 is easy and very much worth the time finding one!

  • @shinobi13
    @shinobi13 Před 9 lety

    The SNES natively does RGB?!
    WHERE HAS THIS INFORMATION BEEN?
    Man, that's amazing. Also, there's 3 1CHIPs? Man, I thought I knew everything. I went out of my to score a 1CHIP SNES (unsure which version of the 1CHIP though), and an official Nintendo S-Video cable. I thought I was running the cleaning unmodded signal for my EDTV, but apparently not.
    You guys have grounded me, and I thank you.
    Also, some N64 love would be lovely, as it's my favourite console.

    • @mylifeingaming
      @mylifeingaming  Před 9 lety

      +Shinobi13 [Try4ce] This shocked me too! I was excited about RGB for the Genesis when I learned of that, because that's a HUGE jump from composite. But honestly I didn't think I'd notice the difference for SNES... though details certainly come out in the sprites much more thanks to the more accurate colors, plus the image is more sharp and crisp.
      N64 is coming hopefully later next month! It's our most-requested topic!

  • @Americanjessie86
    @Americanjessie86 Před 5 lety

    Love your videos!!

  • @brunoseverino2082
    @brunoseverino2082 Před 5 lety

    I have modded my 1-chip02 model to output via componet cable. The result is great for me. Even thoug it isn't as sharp as using an upscaler + scart, is way better then the composit output that i was using prior to this.