Allen Edmonds Park Avenue - Shoe Review
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Allen Edmonds Park Avenue dress shoes are an American classic. These cap toe oxford shoes have been a part of men's wardrobes for decades. Sit down with us as we review the iconic shoe and look at the many colors that Allen Edmonds sells.
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All,...I think that Kirby made an introductory video as to his intent in doing the AE product line review. I believe that Kirby stated that the intent of the series of AE product reviews was to introduce and inform his viewers to the various shoes available from Allen Edmonds. In addition, Kirby mentioned that he did not receive any compensation for agreeing to review the various AE shoes. While I agree with the comments regarding quality control issues AE is currently experiencing, Kirby aptly points out that these shoes are not worn in his current rotation, perhaps due to the quality issues? My comments are intended to share my opinion that this video fairly represents what Kirby said he intended to accomplish in his introductory video regarding the AE product line reviews. In hindsight, perhaps a better Byline for Kirby’s AE product line review could be amended to “An Overview of AE product line”. I sense that Kirby has been provided full access to AE’s product line with the intent that the Channel discuss each/most of the various AE shoes. I may be wrong, but it doesn’t appear that the intent of AE was for Kirby to comment on any and all negative issues related to the AE shoes discussed in the various videos. Kirby can you provide commentary relative to my assumptions stated above? Thanks.
Thanks, Ed! You are totally correct. For one, we are absolutely (and unfortunately) not paid for these reviews. I'd gladly take the money, though, because it wouldn't change what I have to say. Without even a close second, AE is the most-worn leather dress shoe of all of my Hanger Project customers. Furthermore, for most Americans, AE is or was their first "quality" goodyear welted leather shoe. For those that don't want to fuss with online sizing, or have difficult to fit feet, or just want "a pretty good leather dress shoe" that is reasonably priced, the fact remains that there are few, if not any, better options in America.
They are a great dress shoe for the money! Can one do better with a little extra effort or more money? For sure. And our intention is to review these other brands also. Carmina. Edward Green. Gaziano and Girling. John Lobb. Cobbler Union... we're just getting started!!
The fundamental purpose of our shoe review series is to present you our favorite shoes within a price range and to describe their features and qualities to someone who would otherwise not be intimately familiar with the product. Of course, someone who already owns a pair of AE Park Avenues probably isn't going to learn much about them from this video (although he might!) But for someone who might be considering the AE Park Ave as their first shoe... I still recommend them!
Agree@@kirbyallison . I wear Allen Edmonds because I have 11.5AA feet. Many shoe brands do not make narrow width footwear for men. Even if they do, narrow only goes to B. For someone who's Park Avenue 11.5A is still too wide, I'm glad they offer AA and AAA width.
What you folks forget is that we get this for free. If you watch all of Kirby’s videos it’s easy to balance videos like this with his personal shoe videos. Also, as he has said before, he does not review shoes he would not be happy wearing himself. I’m happy for videos like this as it keeps his excellent content free to watch, it’s a trade off I’m happy to accept and let’s not forget, these actually are really great shoes for the price.
Great review of a timeless classic. They now also offer it in burnished olive color.
Hey Kirby, thanks for your great content! Do you know if there’s any variance on the leather they use for the uppers? The leather on my black Park Avenues just doesn’t seem all that “open” - doesn’t receive polish that well (lots of streaks), almost as if there’s some kind of plastic coating on top...
I just got three pairs of allen edmonds and I'm so in loved. I needed this upgrades because all my previous shoes were just cheap jcpenny dress shoes.
I’d love to see a video on which trousers, shirts and jackets go with which shoes best. I love this channel. I sit back with a Coffee and Cigar and enjoy. Thanks Kirby.
Was this not done before, the Park Avenue review?
DeJuan McGuire that’s great. It’s a good shoe to review, nonetheless.
Mr. Allison,
Quick question. I am thinking about pulling the trigger on my first pair of AE but I am worried that if I get caught in the rain without my galoshes that I will have ruined the shoe. I have a pair of light to medium brown Johnston and Murphy shoes that have stains I can not get out or cover up well with polish because I got caught in the rain with them. I am looking at a black cap toe hopkinson from AE. Since it is black would have much less problem if I accidently get caught in the rain? I take the public transit and don't want to accidentally ruin a pair of nice shoes. Would they be fine if I had a leather sole since they are black or should I think about a rubber sole? Thanks so much!
Do these shoes tend to run true to size. US 11 order Allen Edmonds size 11 or better to size down 1/2 size to a 10.5. Thanks and the videos are great as always.
I love the midnight navy. I wish I had bought some when they were still made in that hue.
You never mentioned the heal block. Does the park avenue have a pressed leather heal block or is it a composite heal block?
Just placed an order last night for my polishing creams to care for my Alden shell cordovan shoes. As for Allen Edmonds, I do miss my old Polo saddle shoes from them: Shame they dropped them from their line.
Hey, Kirby - wondering if you are familiar with the brand, Antica Cuoieria? Years ago I bought a pair of their cap-toe oxford in tan, wearing them on occasion. Recently I found a pair of the same shoe in black (via EBay @$17). Wasn’t expecting a whole lot but when I got them I was surprised at the great condition of the uppers; the soles? Well, that’s another story - the right shoe’s was separated at the heel then, while trying them on, the sole separated for about 1/2 of the shoe. Can these shoes be re-soled and, would it be worth it? I can’t really find any information about the brand. Can you offer any advice? Thanks (and greetings from Baytown, TX!).
Can you distinguish, describe, demonstrate or contrast the difference between the park avenue in Oxblood and the park avenue in Bordeaux, please?
Why did you not review and talk about that beautiful purple shoe? I cannot find it. Also, how can I get my pair to be softer. They are not broken in yet and they hurt my feet still.
AE Park Aves are on a particularly narrow last. Most will need to select a wider size than normal. This sort of information would be helpful for those of us relying on you for information on shoes we haven't encountered. This really felt like more of a commercial than an informational video; less educative than your other works. You've got us used to a higher standard, Kirby!
Hi Kirby, I enjoy my 42 pair of AE but with the size of AE, can we really expect the best calfskin? I would think that they would not be able to source the most choice calf as there is not that much available. Is today’s AE calfskin really a good kipskin? With that said, AE calf beats chrome tanned calf that seems to be prevalent with some European shoe makers.
42 come on.
I defense of AE shoes, they come in sizes that people cannot get anywhere else for the money. They are real leather that will stretch over time and accommodate those of us that need it. Just because Mr. Allison is not a riveting speaker and uses verbiage repeated on other videos does not make his message false. Does anyone remember Milton Friedman?
A few comments and questions for you to respond. 1. Is it worth getting the Cordovan premium shell or stick with the standard? 2. How about the Bond street that has the integrated rubber sole for traction? Although the brand seems to be getting some bad reviews on the website... Your thoughts? I've been wearing Crockett and Jones now for years but do not like paying that premium if unnecesary.
Check out Carmina as an alternative. I think that Cordovan is a nice upgrade. Not only in the quality of the upper, but you also receive a JR Rendenbach outsole.
I watched reviews, read up on the Allen Edmonds manufacturing methods and history, it all sounded great. So I bought a pair of Chukka Boots, great product, great purchasing experience overall, I decided to buy more shoes. Bought a pair of Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. I received 2 different color boots, also one of the boots seemed to be a different vintage or much older and had been on display for some time. Multiple price tickers attached and removed, physical dimensions were different, a different cut of the same style. I called customer service, they apologized and said they would send out another pair, free shipping. Got the next pair, shoes are with out a doubt reject, factory second shoes. I wear a size 9.5, the shoes I received are a size 8 or possible even smaller, but marked as a 9.5 D The shoes were also misshapen. The left looked like a right, the toe was curved outward. The worst quality I've seen from any shoe company, shameful quality.
I feel like I've seen this video 5 times. Reposted? I'd like to see one on the Lake Forest loafer or The Strand.
My size is 8.5E can i go for 9D for park avenue????
is it chilly Cognac?
Been to their store on Michigan Ave, Chicago...even though they have recently rebranded their stores aimed and assessable to various age groups now (which is great) however the quality just didn’t seem to be up to par for the $$. I have a collection of English, Italian, Dutch and Spanish shoes with exceptional quality and detailing, this simply wasn’t the case with AE. The dye was hitting the soles (over spill) I’m variois areas and felt they just missed out of proper quality control. Come on guys, need to step it up especially when you’ve got so much competition on price and quality nowadays...
Is there a recommendation for someone with a really high instep? I would like to add a Park Avenue or another oxford to my repertoire, however, when I try some on the eyelets split, creating a very wide "V" shape.
suggestions? alternatives?
Try sizing up and EEE width of AE.
Hopkinson AE
Kirby, I’ve seen Allen Edmonds shoes available at stores like Nordstrom Rack for significant savings. Are these actually good value, or are they factory seconds or otherwise flawed shoes that should be avoided or approached with caution?
Probably factory seconds... but I'd take a close look. You'd be really surprised what you can accomplish with some poilish!
hi there, do a review of TLB mallorca artist line !
I have the Black. I have worn it all the way through. It is time for it to be refurbished. How does that work with Allen Edmonds. My next purchase will the be the Chili. It is a great shoe. My favorite.
You can send them to Allen Edmonds or Kirby's program. You can send to any other cobbler too.
Hi Kirby, which Saphir shoe cream would you recommend for the Park Ave Walnut colour?
Light Brown
@@kirbyallison thank you, Sir!
Any thoughts on the Christian louboutin cap toe oxfords? The red bottoms may look a little gaudy but I really like the look and quality.
My thought in one emoji: 🤮
The problem with fashion brands, is that you over-pay because the cost of their fashion advertising. Instead, with heritage brands, you pay for the craftsmanship.
Kirby Allison appreciate the response sir and I appreciate your content
Why not put that adidas boost thing in the sole ? It will be really comfortable to walk while wearing the shoe .
Excellent video Kirby. My only comment is that I would be careful with the use of the term "genuine leather" when discussing shoes. It gives a completely different connotation to the subject matter. Especially when it comes to higher grade shoes that are marketed as full grain and top grain leather.
Could you do a Shoepassion review?
Why cap toe? I feel the Carlisle or more of a classic shoe. Thoughts?
Awww it’s too bad that you guys couldn’t and didn’t get a close up lens on the two brown colors the dark chili and the tobacco medium brown. I wish you would’ve gone in with a very close up on the leathers to see the subtle or not so subtle differences. Man that would’ve been perfect!
Dear Kirby, I wanna ask you some questions. Would you rather review Wolf & Shepherd shoes? How is your opinion about the brand? Thanks in advance.
Regards
Rifqi N
Are going to you review more of Carmina dress shoes?
Yeah... we've got more shoes that we need to review from Carmina. Also just received some Edward Greens and have a pair of Cobbler Union's that we'll do in a few months also.
Love all shoes from Allen Edmonds. Great video!!!! 😀
Hi Kirby - is it unbearable for you to wear AE after being so used to wearing so many bespoke shoes?
Nochaser Guitar Channel...it’s paid review perhaps?
Kirby Allison thanks. Any reason why you don’t ever talk about the Alden shoes?
Any way to lighten brown after you screwed up?
@@kirbyallison9596 I ordered some, we will see what happens.
I am in a poor country right now i am planning to study foreign country for about 7 years later if i look for black oxford captoe of allen admonds will they be available !
Because these are the only shoes which suit my personality best . Greetings !
Kirby the Allen Edmonds Park Avenue is a great shoe , I know I have a pair that is over 33 years old and last and except for replacing the heel and sole via sending them to the company due to normal wear . I have a small foot size 6 and very hard to find dress shoes. If anyone one has a small foot try them you will love them
I wear a size 7 D/M which is a 8B for the PA. It's hard to find these smaller sizes for a good price.
I would like to have these shoes but they're expensive and never go on sale, when they do is only $60 off and clearance items of this are always on weird sizes. For guys like me with the most common shoe size 11d, is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find a sale
I really prefer a goodyear welted shoes. Nothing can be a goodyear welt and it's easier for the shoe cobbler to resole. Great shoes and it's hard to beat a Allen Edmonds shoe.
These look like the lower end of English shoemaking, but even Loake's top-end shoes look better made. I see others here have noted quality issues. For ready-made shoes at that price range, I'd much rather buy Crockett and Jones, Cheaney, Tricker's etc.
*Nice review shoes is being uploaded! 📤👍👞
Hi again Mr. A
I had to go a half size down on my cap toe shoes. Nevertheless, I love the aesthetics and craftsmanship on these shoes.
A lot of you knock AE. It’s far better than most crap throw away shoes that men wear to the office.
Yep .... I learned that the hard way until few years back when I started buying better shoes.
It seems I am about the only guy who still likes split toe Oxfords.
Another already-recorded video i guess? They are not $425 as of months ago. Price was lowered to $395.
I have two dark chili Allen edmonds...one is way darker than the other
Allen Edmonds QC has gone horribly wrong. 1sts look like seconds. Prepare for multiple exchanges and to almost never get a pair that looks like these except going through the box's in store. Had to exchange 6 pairs of Park avenues before the 7th just had minor defects. Lots of loose threads cuts in the leather missing polish, mismatched shoes, stretched leather, very crooked cap toes and more issues.
Thanks for your review, was considering the Park Avenue in dark chili till I saw your comment, will probably go with Ace Marks. sounds like Allen Edmonds is having someone different making their shoes for them and does not care about the workmanship.
@@user-qb7ei3cu5i Same people but they are not sorting shoes properly for firsts and seconds lots of defects in firsts. If you have it in your budget Carmina would be a great investment. Also got 6 pairs of coffee 5th Ave and the finish was inconsistent some darker or lighter. They are apparently sitting on one year of old stock I was told.
@@MBisFrenchy Thank you for the information, trying to dress decent on a budget. Any socks you recommend? Am looking at Kirby Allisons and Fort Belvidere over the calf socks.
Sorry to see an American company going downhill.
@@user-qb7ei3cu5i Socks I use darn tough brand in general. I would look at some independent reviews of socks. The Kavalier youtube channel is pretty good and objective since he doesn't do sponsors or sell anything. He is very thorough his knowledge may not be as deep as Kirby but he tells you his review after wearing each of the socks or shoes he reviews.
You are right this brand is bad bought a pair of shoes Walnut strand had to return them twice than I went with Magnanni because twice they were with defects not factory second you don't see that with top brand shoes having so many defects many people are complaining about the quality too
5679 I’ve never seen that beauty I must have
Mr. Allison does not respond to our questions...not does the company ever answer their phone number. Very poor customer service.
Really great and thorough review. These shoes unfortunately look more suited to an old man who doesn’t want his clothes noticed. A European dress shoe will attract compliments from the ladies, while these will be unnoticed which may be the appeal for some.
All attention should go to your face that's why you wear simple timeless pieces that don't jump out at you .
KA these shoes are not genuine leather. AE shoes are for the most part, full grain leather with some exception such as Bond Street (corrected grain leather) and their Cordovan (horse rear membrane) models.
Kirby always does great videos. I do believe Allen Edmonds Quality is garbage. Factory quality is now what seconds used to be and their seconds are trash-can worthy.
The age old wisdom is that trashy people make trashy products. That about summarizes the character of their current executive team.
Hahaha
C'mon Kirby. Although they are great shoes surely you understand that an element of credibility has been lost after this commercial.
You do realize that no one made you click on the video, much less sit and watch it...right!?!
Hi again Mr. A
@@Rodimus75 How would I have known that it was a paid endorsement? I stopped watching after a few minutes.
@@Rodimus75 This is such a dumbass take. Of course he's going to watch a video from a channel he likes and it's only natural to give honest and constructive feedback about a video he doesn't like, especially on a channel that prides itself on carefully reading comments.
@@thechemtrailkid Thank you for the sensible reply whilst using common sense.
Honestly, I want to see you criticize shoes more regardless of price range. John Lobb and Gaziano & Girling are around the same ballpark price but there's still a quality difference.
I think you say “Aland Edmonds” lol
:)
I think overview would be more appropriate than review
First
AE is really falling off... my soles burnt down so quickly!
@@kirbyallison9596 how are their shock absorption though?
Carmina > AE
Mr. Allison, this is not a review! This is a undisclosed product placement! Very weak, I normally like your videos.
Agree, this channel has a lot of great videos, but if I want an unbiased opinion I'd rather watch someone who has business liabilities.
Wow, The only thing different from your review opposed to others is hard core bias. This really is a product placement. What was the kickback.
I wish we had gotten paid... I would have certainly taken the money. Because AE does have a good product for the money. Is it the best shoe the world? No. Is it the best shoe for the money? No, also. But Allen Edmonds has many virtues.
full grain leather=good
top grain leather=decent
genuine leather=low quality
Yeah, KA did not due AE justice in this regard because AE shoes are full grain leather. There are a few exceptions such as Bond Street, which is corrected grain leather.
This is an infomercial, not a review
I do like Allen Edmonds becuase of the width fittings and their very cheap "sale" prices but becuase of a few things I could never take there seriously. I saw The Park Avenue advertised in a magazines. This advertisement claimed that they where made by the best shoe makers in the world. A hell ot a claim. I called Allen Edmonds a few times to two different departments. Both could not give me a valid explanation to this claim. One pereon even replied to my question, "American President's have worn them". Pardon? When I think of the best shoe makers I think of a someone sat down sewing in the welt by hand and not someone simply standing and holding up a shoe to a machine as it sews in the welt.
I also do not like The Goodywar Welt. They are a very bulky shoe with a poor flex.
They use to be Allen edmonds for your information you can talk all day but the quality it's not the same anymore try and do some research before you promote this brand and by the way these shoes are boring as well I would pick Santoni Mezlan Magnanni before Allen edmonds
Why? As far as I can tell, they don’t even come in different widths.
as well made as they may be I just don't think they look good
Can we get some shoes to look at without talking. I'm not going to buy my man these shoe if I have to listen a pair per 20 minutes.