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A perpetual motion machine is a machine that, once it’s started, won’t stop and doesn’t need any additional energy to keep going. That means the machine could be used as a source of unlimited free energy. Which is great, so why don’t we just make one? Well, it isn’t because of some conspiracy theory by the energy sector. The reason none have ever been built is because they’re actually impossible to build since perpetual motion breaks the first two laws of thermodynamics. The first law is that energy is constant; it cannot be created or destroyed. The second is that entropy will either increase or remain the same. Essentially, you can never get a greater output of energy than inputted and energy will always decrease over time.
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4. Force of Gravity Perpetual Motion Machine
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1. Finsrud’s Perpetuum Mobile
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1. hook up alternator to dead physicist
2. use one of the machines listed in this video
3. physicist will roll over in grave creating power.
LOL! nice one.
That's a horrible idea! Surely hooking one of them up to a live physicist would cause them to laugh in your face and generate power.
nice.
egenriether c
thats the funnies comment.. i have ever heard.
if you want more revolutions, use newton.
Anyone else hear watermelon pump?
Professor Genki I did XD
Tidiest Flyer same 😹
Professor Genki I swear it corrected it
Yes and he said that the strongest batteries are magnets...
Zenosoul..well, they are. Batterys store energy..magentic force is a form of energy...neodym magnets store a heck load of magnetic energy and it takes ages till they demagnetize. A pressure tank can also be called a battery..we just use the term battery nowadays for electrical energy storage.
Step 1. Park two forklifts head to head, with the forks underneath the other.
Step 2. Both operators pull the lift lever.
Step 3. Flight.
Step 4. PROFIT!
yes
Step 5: Marvel movie deal
Exactly farming simulator physics irl
C.A.T.S.
Spoiler alert: None of them work
i watch you
As usual
damn came here for nothing 😂
Wrong the redars Device is true and is still running today
The vids title contains the word attempt !
so the thubnail had nothing to do with the video. great.
classic
Clickbait
of course it does, they're sowing you attempts at creating a perpetual machine.
Andy Crowley Sr. Because it does't exist. It's impossible because of the laws of physics. And it will never exist, at least not it our universe..! There's no machine that can deliver 100% efficiency, that's why it'll never exist. There's always a small percentage of energy which will get lost (in friction, heat, etc..)
Andy Crowley Sr. hahahahaha
Hang carrot in front of mule. Eventually mule will get hungry and move even faster
But will eventually die.
+Carl Manson lol
+David Michael
I tried that, but it doesn't work, as the mule catches on pretty quickly.
put carrot in mules crack. film it. it is a titillation video.
Are you related to Charlie?
TopTenz: Well theoretically protons will eventually decay after billions of years and the universe will die a heat death due to entropy and friction, so it isn't truly a perpetual motion machine...
fully get where ur coming from n agree but just for fun thinking, what would protons decay into? n if something lasted untill the end of the universe, could we say it lasted for ever?
Cup of hot tea going cold 😐
I hate to correct you, but according to NASA, and the American Nuclear Association, Protons don't decay, their lifespan will extend 100's of trillions of years, long after vacuum decay, humanity's extinction, and the dissipation of the last black hole via Hawking's Radiation. While it is true that Atoms of heavy elements will decay faster, a Hydrogen atom, which only has one proton, will never decay and will out live the universe.
@@casey2044 Oh so hydrogen won't decay but all other elements will? If we used all other heavier elements until they decayed and then needed to convert hydrogen into other elements through fusion, we would still run out eventually right? A universe with just hydrogen left isn't very exciting...
@@IGIVEINPS3 Yeah that's the point I was driving for. Like the different kinds of infinities, there are different types of eternal. If it lasts until the end of the universe, but would theoretically run out beyond that, is it still forever? And if something came into existence five minutes from the heat death of the universe, that would count as lasting for the rest of eternity right? 🙃
Two things always confuse me when it comes to the for/against argument with perpetual motion machines.
Firstly, when a machine is discredited because 'the magnet would lose its force over time', or the excuse that 'friction' would mean the parts need to be replaced.
These 2 reasons effectively rule out all perpetual motion machines and all machines in general.
In a billion years everything we have made, perpetual or otherwise, will be dust.
I think friction and loss of magnetic force are separate from the goal, as I understood it the idea was to create a machine that produced more energy than it consumed, even if for a short period of time.
Secondly, in a real world application, why does it have to be absolutely perfect, why not take one of these inventions, construct it on a larger scale, apply a system of gears and power a city on a 12 Volt battery?
yes
Yes a better argument against magnet based machines is even if they can run for years. They do so if you don't tap into them. So there are two major problems. One is that the magnets you manufacture for it would cost you way more energy to make and the second issue is the machines that rely on magnets to run for a long time, if you put an interference to draw that power the torque drops. Like how adding more load to a vehicle will slow it down or consume more energy.
Cuz it's about energy. You can't get more energy out than you put in so once the battery is used up it's done.
@@jimmysyar889 Do you even know what you answered to?
A system cannot produce more energy than it consumed. It can produce more of a certain type of energy than it consumed eg electrical, but the energy has to come from somewhere, so what you’re talking about is literally just power plants.
Heres a "Free energy" machine for ya
step 1. add dynamo on bike
step 2. place phone with Pokemon go in human hand
step 3. place human on bike
step 4. hack pokemon go and make mewtwo spawn 200m away from said human just to despawn again 4 meters before impact
step 5. Enjoy free energy from dynamo
You sir, are ingenious.
You have singlehandedly solved a great scientific problem in a matter of seconds!
give this guy a reward
not free enegy because pokemon go will drain the smartphone battery. very good attempt tho!
Steffen Altmeier Hidden step: apply solar charger + dynamo charger to phone.
Enjoy
leave a like for watermelon pumps!
No
oh,my friend, but yes.
so I'm not the only one that heard that...
nope:)
Talking about how the magnets eventually demagnetize is completely unrelated to the thermodynamic laws that these machines attempt to violate. Every one of these machines have some sort of miscalculation where even if the magnets worked forever or the friction decay of components could be safely ignored, these machines would still fail to work. I am down voting the video because the analysis was lazy, the thumbnail was click-bait, and the legitimate research was non-existent. This video was very disappointing.
Ripperoni
I haven't re-watched the video recently, but I am pretty sure if you threw friction and magnetic field decay, more than one of these machines would produce infinite net energy.
G50 Block Out of curiosity, what would you put as the reason for reporting if it was just the thumbnail that was clickbait - not this video, which itself could be reported using the “spam or misleading content” button? I really just mean any of the multitude of deliberately BS clickbait thumbs leading to videos that don’t contain anything like the title and are obviously just titled that way for clicks or ad-revenue.
Cheers ✌️
NO! science have be highjacked by the petro-dollar system keeping all free energy and healing technologies away from public, all science are the tools of deception and control, like the US and their sanctions, all laws of physics are justified by paid researchers from the banks lol
@@EcnalKcin First, you can't "throw away" friction, and if you could, then you would get back exactly the energy you put in, instead of less. Never more.
Second, magnetic field decay isn't the reason any of these don't work. A magnet is just a fancy spring. The energy isn't coming from the magnetic field. It is just being stored there. You stretch the magnetic field, it springs back. Net gain: zero.
“Really long time” motion would be a huge accomplishment. Replace parts once a year and youd be rich.
Nah there is no way to get more energy out then youd put in
We already have machines that do that. How do you think we get renewable energy?
@@-13eNnY- wind, water, solar rays, etc, count as energy
@@skeletalgamer1013 they take in energy from an outside source. A Perpetual motion machine is a machine that can power itself forever without outside energy input.
@@wousjoe7847 Unless is multiples itself.
The reason #3 isn't PM is nothing to do with magnets running out, it is that the guys is pushing the wheel round with his hand. It may be an invisible push with a magnet but it is still an input of mechanical energy by the guy holding the magnet and basically using it as a stick to push the wheel round - he will be able to feel the magnetic wheel pushing back at him.
This is true. Don't know why it wasn't mentioned in the video.
From other things he says here I kind of get the impression that he doesn't really understand any of the physics and that the script is cobbled together from Google searches.
All he would need is a cam to lift the magnet
jonshneebley No. When the magnet returns from being lifted, that is the time when the guy holding the magnet is actually pushing. A cam would just stop at that point (wiggle a bit due to inertia but then stop).
Because the guy making the video didn't do his research...
I thought he said "watermelon pump"
me to
Same
...wait, he didn't say that?
It IS a watermelon pump, the title has a typo.
same
5:37 "The strongest batteries commercially available are Neodymium magnets." Wait, what?
that whole script after that was total bollox. in the video he is talking over, the person is pushing the wheel via the magnetic field, he feels a force and it is his energy that is pushing the wheel.
Did he really say batteries cause that is what I heard? Don't want to go back and check though.
I hope they will take this video down at some point. It really damages Simon's brand. Hearing him say such factually wrong things undermines the pleasure of watching other movies featuring him. They never passed this video or its script anywhere near most modest physicist.
@ Bryce Ring in another video the same guy puts the magnet he's holding on a cam / lifter setup. It accelerates and maintains speed by itself.
they are used in guitar pickups and speakers these days.
Narrator's debunk for everything: It will only work for 1 trillion years so it's not a 'true' perpetual motion machine.
narrators logic: if only it worked for 1.00001 trillion years then it just *might* be enough to call it perpetual energy
Ya magnets loosing their magnetism lol I think u can still count it..
Find one that's been running for a single year non-stop. Even one example. Just one.
@@aaronsanchezz ya replacing the magnet takes about 0.47 seconds. It counts imo
Narrator's debunking is perpetually inaccurate.
This video does a very poor job of explaining why these Machines don't actually work.
because your common sense should achieve that better
He doesn't need to. Every perpetual machine will fail for exactly the same reason.
There is never more energy produce then taken to power them, also most if not all of them are stop by air resistance or other sort of friction. Although, this problem do fascinate scientist and enthousiast for years and probably many years to come... and i don't know why people need to be mean when someone just ask a question or make a comment that is totally accurate, yes this video is bad at explaining why it don't actually work.
He says a lot of them fail because magnets run out. But thats not the main reason they are failing, neodynium for eg, the guy is constantly moving the bar. also theres still air friction. So very little to do with magnets wearing down
Yeh... he says friction or magnets wear out. But even with zero friction and ideal components they still dont work.
Needs to see the museum of unworkable devices online.
Perpetual motion machine; easy. Tape a piece of toast to the back of a domestic cat and drop. As cats always land on their feet and toast always lands buttered side down, the cat will hover inches above the ground and spin rapidly as the universe tries to solve this cat/toast paradox. Simply insert a drive shaft into the cats arse and you have virtually unlimited power.
philthy122 this is one of the most creative/brilliant ideas I've seen in a long time. I'm waiting for your video on it. :)
Its a work in progress; however due to numerous stitches and tetanus shots after trying to insert the drive shaft, current progress is limited :(
A basic understanding of physics can disprove this. The force that the universe applies to the cat/toast to make it land the way it wants is infinite and would break whatever is used to attach the two together, obviously!
philthy122
This has viability.
I use two to power my home with an extra in the garage as a backup. Works great, but sometimes noisy. Keep a spray bottle nearby. The reason you need more than one is that while the power is "unlimited" you can only get so much rotation going, so a second unit is usually required for higher wattage devices. If you don't have butter... jam, hummus, marmite, or nut butter also work well... some have other techniques. There are many ways to spin a cat.
There seems to be a real misunderstanding here about perpetual motion machines. A perpetual motion machine is not a machine that never wears out, any machine wears out over time. It is a machine that either keeps it self going in a closed loop ( not needing outside help, ) or a machine that does that and creates an excess amount of energy as well.
I wonder what would happen if you used super conducting magnets to eliminate friction and if the device was in a vacuum whether you could create an ever turning closed loop machine?
Same thing, magnetic fields aren't perpetual, by entropy they run out.
@@tale7955 after how long though?
Needs energy to cool the magnets and to maintain a vacuum,so it's a NO.
@@Jacob_Crowthorne it's random,but there's more chances of the magnet getting lower magnetic fields than maintaining the same.
@@nssherlock4547 No energy required to keep a vacuum once it's sealed. I wonder if there's a way for super conducting magnets to be kept cool without expending energy though?
I like how every time One of the machines seems to work you say well magnets eventually run out. The whole point of perpetual motion is to make more energy than your spending.
Number one reason the masses are gonna get red-pilled when China, and America, announce they're replacing their aging infrastructure with Fusion Reactors.
China's opens up in a couple months, and America just had a conference to Congress by the Department of Energy.
I know this will disappear into the 4.5k comments here but still I need to rant:
NO! "The magnets will lose magnetism over time" is NOT a way to debunk a proposed perpetual motion machine. Nearly all of the debunks in this video are incorrect.There are other and neater explanations on why those contraptions would not work.
Ege Feyzioğlu
Perpetual motion machines are not possible, and you cannot create a free energy device with just magnets,. It's all BS.
valveman12 ....In a roundabout way, I think that’s what he was saying. What a lot of people have a misconception about when it comes to magnets, is they believe that magnets are a source of energy. They have a force, but are not a source of energy. In order for a force to do work, outside energy must be added to that force. And since there will always be energy lost in any system, less energy will come out than went in. In that case, more energy will always need to be added for the system to do a second cycle/rotation.
No matter how y9ou de-bunk them, they're still bunk.
@@OslerWannabe No, i think it matters how you de-bunk them. A flawed de-bunking will allow a person inroads to continue pushing their conspiracy that the creation of energy is possible and is being suppressed by the government. Energy can only transform, and that is the critical misunderstanding of these conspiracy theorists.
@Philip Turner He does indeed. And it's so obvious.
Half of the explanations are completely wrong.
E.g. 6:16 "The reason this isn't a perpetual motion machine is because the magnets will stop working and need to be replaced" - no, it's that the guy is adding the energy to the system by moving his hand back and forth.
I think the idea is not to count the start energy, cause it's not supposed to start from zero and to be able to power a megacity in year 3000. But the thing is supposed to work with a 100% efficiency. (Not expecting the 101%, which would be required to have the start energy countable on the process.
No, that's not the point. Perpetual motion implies at the very least 100% efficiency, at which point the energy can't be harnessed or you'll have less energy than you started with, making the motion stop eventually.
And the energy needed to move the magnet back and forth is much bigger than the energy produced from the spinning wheel, due to energy loss to friction, so the efficiency is much lower than 100%.
Intuitively it's easy to say that you can't have more than 100% efficiency, which is true. Still, people dedicate their lifetimes trying to prove that wrong and fighting the laws of thermodynamics.
Robert Tompson
The machine will stop moving as soon as the guy stops moving his hand back and forth. It's not just "start energy". He can't just stop moving his hand and then have the machine run forever.
Yeah, this made me give the video a thumb down. The misinformation is just too bad.
Alex C well i know the video that showcase this idea for perpetual motion, and what you see in the footage is just a basic prototype and not the final design. in the final design the wheel is connected to a lever which pushes the magnet away for a moment when a full cycle occurs. it only gives the magnet a gentle nudge so it doesnt require much energy. still, i cant say for sure that the full design can run forever
My Uncle Tony and Aunt Loretta are a perpetual motion machine, they fight night and day. There’s plenty of energy in that house. Never stops.
😂😂
@@nathankeehn9397 even so more perpetual at night via thrust power
😂😂😂
"Gravity doesn't work in space, so this machine doesn't count" "Magnets only last 100years so this is not a true perpetual motion device"
I thought he said "Watermelon pump"
same lol
hi
Me too
didnt he?
Same
i was about to write that comment
Points for having no annoying music in the background.
still has his annoying voice
While I don't believe it's possible to get 100% energy from anything, I do enjoy seeing people's minds working on the problem. There are some very creative minds out there.
My grandfather was an inventor, he worked for years in a little shop on his farm on building his perpetual motion machine. It worked very well, based on a DC electric motor and a DC generator, the generator powering the motor which powered the generator. He never got it quite right but when I was 8 years old, I thought it was the most wonderful machine I had ever seen. That and riding the horses on Grandpa's farm were two of my favorite things to do.
It wouldn't work
Why did I hear "watermelon pump"?
NaturalRadiation Lol, same.
i heard that too
NaturalRadiation same here
Some of these aren't "perpetual motion" machines because they'd get worn down over time. Sorry, but that's a bit pedantic tbh. I don't think any of these designers believed that their machines would physically last forever
There is NO such thing as forever and so we must draw limits somewhere. If it lasts at least a human's average lifespan, I believe this is a good start for qualifying something a perpetual motion machine.
I think it's simple. If it generates more energy than it costs to maintain it, then it's perpetual.
Right! Obviously, NOTHING Lasts Forever!! Maybe nothing is Actually perpetual but if you can create more usable energy output than is put in... that should be credited for SOMETHING!!!!!?
And that's the whole problem.
If you can create a machine that generate more energy than it consumes... then you can use this energy to keep your machine running forever -just plug the output to the input.
But as you said, nothing lasts forever. So there is no machine that can generate more energy than what is consummed.
There is always a power source somewhere that will get depleted over time.
Another thing to consider is that free energy means basically infinite energy.
If you have such machine that can output more energy than you need to input to keep it running, then what stops you from taking this output and feed into another one (or more) of these machines ? Then take the new output, which is even larger, and feed it to even more machines, and so on ? By repeateing the process, you will obtain enormous amount of energy from the tiny input of your first machine in the chain, and there is no potential limit to how much energy you can create from this initial input. Does this sound right to you ?
I agree, however some design really do have potential yet they have not been used afaik.
Lisa!, in this house we obey the lays of thermodynamics!
In Quantum Physics, "They're more like guidelines anyway."
In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics !! 🙃🤣
Observations. Not laws. Nature doesnt care for man made "laws" as such. There ARE stars that violate our known "laws of physics" and yet, they exist.
@@Gohirro i bet you haven't watched the Simpsons ever in your life.
Video is 9:11 long. TopTenz is Illuminati confirmed
I knew this would be a comment as soon as I saw the length of the video
My puter says it's 9:10. Now what? 8^)
+Warren NZ im on iphad it says 9:11
I was just about to comment that
Mine says 9:10
But wait a minute!
What comes after 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8....
SPOOKY!!! 8^)
the reasons why these machines dont work are very different than the BS the guy in the video says.
Debunking perpetual motion machines is fun! No need to be sloppy about it. But, the real reasons they don't work require teaching people physics, and aren't going to fit in a top 10s video. Would have preferred they leave the weak explanations out.
@@JedidiahWB Maybe not. It should be pretty intuitive that you can't get more out of something then you put in. It should also be fairly intuitive that something won't remain there forever. No matter what you do you'll never get more water out of a glass than you put in. No matter what you do you'll never be able to keep the glass full forever. Or maybe food storage would be better. Since rotting would be a bit better metaphor for entropy vs evaporation.
It should be possible to come up with a layman's explanation for why they don't work.
I was thinking the same think and I was about to comment it here... but you where first !
@timemachine_194 And number 3 is not friction free. What about air friction?
Frankly, the only perpetual motion machine in existence is called the Universe, and although we live in it, we're not even sure about that.
I would also add that the only way to be certain that a system is in perpertual motion is to observe it during an infinite amount of time (without taking anything out of it by observation), which by itself is already delusional. Humans, they always want to get everything for free!
1 million people have been misinformed by this video.
This is a "perpetual" clickbait machine.
Wassily Kandinsky I finally gave in and watched it in hopes it will go away.
These machines may not work as perfectly as desired, but I can't help but think the concepts and principals can be applied in practical applications for efficient designs.
I'm pretty sure modern manufacturing techniques are more efficient than a hand-rolled coil of wire, using two nails as a bearing, and a magnet that doesn't even exist.
Yes, the best thing to come out of such experiments is the discovery of new ways to build machines more efficiently.
In Water Mill and Pump, it sounded like Watermelon Pump
+Julius and Jimmy Studios I was just going to say that!
I thought it was watermelon pump.. XD
Same
That's the trick to perpetual energy, they though it was a water mill and pump, but it was mean't to be a water melon pump.
Stole the words out of my mouth.
6:25 Sounds like his priorities are perfectly reasonable to me. A family that provides a few individuals intermittent personal happiness for a couple decades, or a device that (he believes) has the potential to solve all energy crisis for all human beings for the rest of existence. Which one sounds like the more important idea to focus on?
Family > work every time.
You kind of sound like a robot, hun.
*****
What's you're contribution then?
Maxine Taylor Are you trying to imply that's a negative quality? Because, if so, you're very misguided by attempting to use it against me. I hold objectivity in the highest regard -- emotional responses and cognitive bias only serve to impede progress.
Also, I'm not quite sure what your religious grandfather parable has to do with anything; the topic at hand has nothing to do with religion and the human need for family transcends religion.
It’s weird hearing him say since magnets only last a few decades, it’s not worth using those machines.
I agree, but there probably a reason we aren't using magnets to power cities.
Does the magnet replacement cost exceed the monetary value of the energy gained from the machine delivery?
Probably yes: There's an energy cost to mining rare earth neodymium magnets, and direct energy cost to making semi-permanent magnets. That's not even counting the cost of energy and expense to ship them all over the world.
@@CRogers you can harness the energy of lightning to create magnents reducing the costs to be a lot lower then what you get from magnent motion machines lol ... will these machines ever be truely perpetual? no, but they can atleast last a long time and if you harness the power of nature you can make it a lot more energy efficient on our end so it makes it super cheap to run power or cars etc....
so it wont create more energy no, but it can make it free in terms of $$$
@@XiaoYueMao who currently harnesses the power of lightning to make magnets?
@@CRogers nobody, but thats the point, it is certainly possible to do so if we make the technology
@@XiaoYueMao we are talking about things that are possible now.
I had a friend a few years ago, who claimed to have built a perpetual motion machine using the magnetic strips that you find in refrigerator door seals (he was an appliance recycler for a living). He said he talked to some professor on the phone about it, but the guy hung up on him after a short while, and wouldn't talk to him again. Heh. He thought it was because he'd proven that the professor was upset that he'd been proven wrong. Yes, my friend was fairly intelligent, but lacked any real education...and, of course, lacked any understanding of the law of conservation of energy. When I asked him to show me his device, he told me he'd destroyed it long ago. I tried to explain to him why it couldn't work, but...he just kept insisting that he was right and everyone else was wrong. Oh well, can't win them all.
"no friction" what about the air?
How bout building a machine within a vacuum. Once the vacuum chamber is created, no further energy would be required to sustain it. If this is possible, wouldn't that eliminate air friction?
Well, he's actually not wrong about that. The machine itself doesn't create friction, and it could easily be put into a vacuum.
but you can't create a perfect vacuum can you ?
You can get damn close, but no I don't believe you can.
And what about the bearing it's running on?
#3 does not represent perpetual motion for a much more mundane reason than the eventual loss of magnetism: the hand holding the moving magnet is MOVING it, adding external energy to the system, in the same way as a person in a swing pumps it. There are many such lapses in this presentation, which is quite disappointing.
People say there is no such thing has Perpetual Motion. And yet our planet spins as it rotates around our sun. And yet nothing appears to be driving it.
Paul Wood eventually it will stop tho... but when you look at the big magnet in the sky that orbits our planet every 28 days, you might understand how it keeps spinning. The reason we slow down though is because the big magnet in the sky pulls our ocean around and that causes friction. Eventually we will spin the same speed as the moon orbits. Don’t worry that won’t happen in our lifetime, but now you know what drives us and what will eventually stop us.
Perpetual Motion exists and is called momentum or angular momentum, but a perpetual motion machine is diferent, cuz it's a machine it has to do something and keep doing it forever which violates the first and/or second law of thermodynamics
@@GokouZWAR That's the moon you are talking about, I think. That big magnet. I'm not a scientist but do watch a lot of science Discovery. Thank you for your input.
finsrud wanted to make a machine for the world, then keeps it locked up. lol
he said he was forced to
Or he could be lying. Nobody has been able to reproduce it. And only one no-namer was able to study it. Yet he was able to publish countless videos on it. That's the problem with these machines- they only exist on youtube. The moment they are pressured to have independent verification they suddenly say "Nope, the men in black made me suppress it"
Reddit Gold User I agree that it needs to be studied, but it's in his galleri free to the public to wiew pretty mutch all the time, I've been to see it multiple times myself
maybe thats because "the men in black" or however they are, REALLY made them suppress it?
6:10 "the magnets will stop working and will need to be replaced". Really? And how much energy would they have generated before stoped working? And would it be such a difficult job to, ya know... REPLACE the damn things?
That's not the reason why it won't work.
I mean the guy is also inputting energy by moving the magnet back and forth.. thought that was the more obvious violation, personally.
Pedro Santos But you also have to consider the sheer size needed to make this useful. Let's say about 5 the size of a bus.
Gears that would add friction and therefore make it less efficient.
And lose more energy than you produce :/
I GOT ONE FOR YOU...I already built the first part and it DID work too (And I'm about to start building it again)...
1) I placed two Strong flat (Fridge, rare earth) Magnets on a rotor (rotating inner part of a motor) and stator (the stationary outer part), so that they are repelling when approaching and leaving each other (same fields pointing at each other, opposite directions), but they attract strongly when edge to edge (opposite fields align then)...
2) Using Soft Iron, you can compress the repelling field of one of the magnets, and the other magnet will be attracted to the metal instead of repelled from the magnet....then attracted until they align, then you have to break them free from that, so I angled the one magnet.....and it worked!
Then I started building the motor...and put one magnet on the rotor...and lost everything I had due to petty 'government'! (Traffic codes, etc.). SO...then I studied the law, and now I made these 'LawDocs' to 'GovernPublicServants' and I've had two cops say 'over 90% of what we do' is Contrary to what I fit on one piece of paper (the actual law, quotes and URLs!), and got cases dismissed, and a lot more (cant give 'civil citations', all 'victimless crimes' and most 'civil offenses' are unconstitutional, and lot more)...
So now I'm back to it....
I'm learning to use modeling software now to shoe people how, but am willing to work with anyone with the means to mill iron and make these parts, and show everyone as we go, so everyone can make their own, and they all know who came up with it to be fair too!
I need to mill out the soft iron so it wraps around the edge of the flat magnet (maybe 1/16in by 1/2 by 1/4inch, maybe 1mm or so of metal wrap around edge of magnet, but thicker than that to cover the whole side...to totally shield its field)...that way most of the backwards attraction will be cancelled if you tilt it just right, so that its attracted most to the furthest tip of the stationary magnet (the one with the soft iron wrapped around it, and tilted), at which point the repelling forces take over from there.
"WHERE DOES THE ENERGY COME FROM?"...The momentum of electrons being shared between atoms so they spin in spiral patterns, like wires in a coil/electro-magnet, create the 'lines of magnetic force', which are really just electrical charges radiated in a spiral, so the 'North' is opposite the 'South' (if you wrap wire around a 'right hand thread' screw it will point 'Magnetic North' btw), so that when like fields align, like charges repel, but when they cause one another to rotate ('torque') until they point opposite directions because opposite charges also attract, until the spirals 'lines of force' cross each other, and they attract.
SO, that does mean the magnets will wear out, but that the 'source' of the energy, is the momentum in the electrons that produce the 'permanent' 'magnetic field', and it takes less energy to remagnetize them (one big high amp zap) than you can get out of them, because the 'radiation' from all the directions hitting all atoms all the time adds to their 'thermal energy', their momentum, to help sustain the fields of magnets, molecular bonds, nuclear bonds, and all the atoms in the universe, because all of it is essentially just pressure and motion, 'governed' by this same 'Law of Induction', which really is just basic mechanics, pressure and motion, in geometric, 'harmonic' configurations, like the four 'electron orbital configurations' that make 'solid matter' exist!
There is no 'creation' of 'energy', its just transforming it from one form to another! And I think when I earn enough soon helping people with cases, I'll be making these, battery chargers and home generators, then maybe new forms of propulsion using counter-rotating oscillating weights, cheaper ways to reach outer space, and maybe even more advanced technologies, 'electromagnetic wave interferometry', if you know what I mean! (Tesla did!).
#2, my uni lecturer told us about a similar device. it was driving a 100W light-bulb whilst only consuming say 5W from the wall. The trick is mains power meters are designed to work at mains frequency, the device was chopping up the current at a much hire rate and confusing the meter
He is worried that his machine may be too revolutionary... cause it never stops spinning 😂
nice
Yup this is a story of a really smart guy who thinks ," if I can't make one NO ONE CAN." Not to smart is he?
Steven Potter ....he’s been proven correct millions of times over. It seems that the smart ones are the ones that don’t chase magic to get reality based results.
Dan G ....which machine doesn’t stop spinning? Not a single free energy/perpetual motion machine has ever done one revolution without extra power being added.
@@dross4207 Thanks for the info. We should all cease to aspire. What a lovely Marxist, you should run for Senate.
your head is so round it looks like it might be nearly frictionless, maybe you can be the source of a new perpetual motion machine
shottysteve Hey! I've seen your channel before!
shottysteve at least he uploads.
Roasted. P.S love you shotty
We have
Menno Rodenburg OOOOOOOHHH
First time seeing an older video, I love how straight to the point it was. If this was remade today it would be 30 minutes long with 20 minutes of rambling.
The key to create perpetual motion machines is to design them so complicated that you're statistically bound to do a miscalculation somewhere, so you're ending up with a high erenergy output than the original energy input.
In the calculations, that is.
That makes me think of:
'There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult.'
-- C.A.R. Hoare
No, no, no, WAIT!!!
The problem with the machines using magnets is NOT that the magnets will need to be replaced one day.
The poblem is simply that they stop without external help, after they lose energy, but the magnets are still perfectly fine.
"The strongest batteries commercially available are neodymium magnets..." ... um wtf?
Yep, those are 2-different things.
"commercially" that's what matters most to those fookers.. And what about batteries that commercially unavailable??
A "battery" is anything that is used to power something..So if you are using magnets to create power then they are batteries..The "battery" of a slingshot is its rubber..The battery in a machine powered by magnets ....Figure the rest out for yourself
@@mrstarfire9336 Ask yourself, if the magnet was the strongest 'battery' why would your cellphone have chemical batter instead of magnet pushing away something connected to little generator. Or why your wind up toy car tenses a spring when you wind it up, not just squeezes two magnets together. The answer is magnet is very weak 'battery',
The Fibsrud machine looks as though it could work by using the rotation of the earth to drive it. A pendulum free to rotate about its pivot was used to demonstrate the rotation of the earth, by sweeping out a circle in time with its rotation. Finsrud's machine could be using the energy from that rotation to keep the pendulum swinging, which causes the apparatus to rotate, which causes the pendulum to swing.... It isn't over-100% return on energy, but it is a way to obtain a sort of perpetual motion--as long as the earth turns.
I read about "number 2 - Perepiteia" years ago,
I forgot most of the details but the inventor missinterpreted what he found as a perpetual machine. The scientist looked into it and knew it was not a PM, but he saw potential because it seemed that it changed the behavior of motors under heavy loads... so when he accelerated, it got faster easier...
Somehow he improved the magnetic field of the motor under certain conditions, and it performed better than others. So in the and the scientist was looking into it to see if it the improvement really works or if it was a fluke...
5:33 the strongest *batteries* commercially available? I though you were talking about magnets...
Step 1: Go to space
Step 2: Throw an abject
Step 3: Hope that said object never interacts with another object
And now you have an object that is perpetually moving.
the gravity of an another body will attract it
Yes, gravity will act on it, but that doesn't mean it will collide. So long as an object is traveling above escape velocity, it will continue to get further and further away and never return. The reason is that gravity from the body gets weaker faster than the object slows down.
Another way to explain that is that it only takes a constant amount of energy to move an infinite distance away in any gravitational field. So if you can escape the solar system you're *probably* good unless you accidentally pointed the object at another star or galaxy.
taken into consideration but you still could not use that energy(created by the motion of the object)
Yes, as long as there are no particles to collide with it, its motion will be perpetual. But, in the real universe, there are particles, and even the Earth is slowing down in its orbit because of colliding with the solar wind. Even if there were not particles, any energy you harvest from the motion of that object, will slow it down by exactly the same amount of energy as was taken from it.
Lord Baldur actually not true, it may not hit "anything" visable to our eye, but it will still be hitting heat, radiation, micro objects like completely shreded matter or even regular protons and such
#7 2:40 Watermelon Pump
#6 3:15 Paul Scheerbart's White Driven Cockwheel
#5 4:00 Maggots and Gravity
this is the greatest comment ive seen on youtube in years
The fact that many of the magnets would need replacing shouldn’t matter. We should be using some of these inventions
I have an idea for a machine, how do I get youtube to come film me?
Dude what, that is not your normal stupid, thats advanced stupid.
References!
+Italo Mortara its b8
Old joke is old
2Meta4Me
I kind of wish you talked more about their efficiency it's really interesting.
"magnets dont last forever and will eventually need to be replaced." bruh neodynium magnets only lose 5% of their magnetism every 100 years
You should have put also the gigantic wheel of Monsieur Aldo Costa in the list. You can't miss that one.
Wait nobody's tried buttered toast and cats yet?!?!?
I did, but cat's are really hard to butter and you know toast, it just sits there. Stupid toast.
cats*
I'm not an expert by any means, but am I right that sone form of non-perpetual but still very efficient system would still be practical so long as the energy required to replenish it was less than what it generates?
Friction forces are the hitch in most of these theories.
1DABTube Yeah, #2 sort of answered my question but I didn't have time to edit my comment. What about #1 though? The fact that it takes more energy to bring something up than down is basic physics, but the ball in #1 is essentially always at the top of a hill, just needing a little push. Assuming it's not perpetual motion, wouldn't the push be less energy than what it creates by rolling? I'm just curious.
+Googlefluff857 It's not doing anything useful until connected to a load, and by then friction forces will ensure that it is definitely not "perpetual motion".
+ILikeGuns1992 the days of JP Morgan holding down the world of free energy is over. Today, a viable solution has not yet been conceived. Do you think 3rd-4th year physics has a day that the professor closes the blinds and says "this is one of our greatest secrets above commoners, share this with no one, ever"? We just donno, and our best guesses would cost unimaginably high.
You see, energy is never *generated*, it's only _converted_ from one form to another. Combustion engines convert energy of chemical bonds in the fuel into kinetic energy of combustion products, by re-combining atoms in such way that new combination carries less energy than the last one and the excess energy is released as light and motion. In nuclear reactor it works the same way except instead of using energy of molecular bonds, it uses much more vast energy of nucleus bonds. And watermills work because water up top has more energy than water on down below, when it goes down its energy is getting lower and excess energy is released as "mechanical" energy. Same thing with magnets. It also works backwards, if you can put back sufficient amount of energy to make the previously existed state possible again. You can take combustion products and make fuel and oxygen by putting energy into them (see photosynthesis), you can fuse heavy elements into even heavier elements in a collider, you can give the water it's energy back by lifting it upwards in a bucket, and you can give magnetic system it's energy back by taking magnets apart. It all works the same way for every kind of system. And all kinds of energy are the same.
And the bottomline is, you can only take out as much energy as you put in there, provided nothing was ever lost.
I misheard the water mill and pump as "watermelon pump" LOL
I did it! I made a perpetual motion machine!
Top Tenz: well, eventually the universe will die and everything will reach maximum entropy, so it's not a true perpetual motion machine
What is it with people making revolutionary things and then keeping them secret?!
yh rip starlite
Because they don't work and are afraid of the criticism. Duh.
China
(Because they don't actually work)
Proof or it didn't happen. Simple test. If they aren't willing to subject it to scrutiny, then they're charlatans.
I came to see the one from the thumbnail. It wasn't here. I feel ripped off. Thumbs down for clickbait thumbnail.
Same here. After doing a search for it, found the site and image of the thumbnail. It's called Metropolis II by Chris Burden. Just google/youtube it.
Such a big machine. Would lose lots of energy to friction. Sure doesn't seem perpetual
dislike crew wooo
MrMarkb68 I’ve seen it in person it’s in LA
its a rolling ball sculpture
The real trick would be to make something that would perpetually draw from a readily available resource to power itself. We don't truly need infinite energy, just a lot of energy to meet our needs. The earth for example is not necessarily in perpetual motion, but it has been spinning for a very very long time.
how come everyone is so fixated on "perpetual" motion? in this reality, things break down and decay, so why would we expect anything to last for infinity except infinity itself? the logic that : "because it isn't perpetual, we should dismiss it entirely" boggles my mind. as long as we can diversify our energy options, thats fantastic. overunity has already been achieved yet we're still chasing perpetuity? even the sun will die eventually. the potential uses of it's energy (thermally/electromagnetically) are limitless, right now.
Number 7 Water mill and Pump I heard watermelon pump
Same here
+kax same
Conner Dassen same
These are great examples, and the dumbest explanations as to why true perpetual motion machines are not possible. Like the main reason #3 isn't a perpetual motion device is not because the magnets will stop working, even in the clip you need a human doing work to get it to do anything.
reminds me of that documentary I watched on perpetual motion.
man... it went on forever...
Marc a *forever
@@layyouin6860 ty
Marc a NP buddy!
#1 resembled one of my projects in my Construction Art class.
I think the magnet's life can be ruled out as a reason to render a machine unperpetual.
The magnet array on the skateboard wheel works because he moves his hand each time the wheel rotates. The energy used to move his hand = the energy needed to spin the wheel. Either that or its a trick.
Agreed. It's the motion of the guy's hand that is putting energy into the system.
I disagree, I think the magnet's life has everything to do with the reason it isn't perpetual motion. If you are putting a magnet into a opposing magnetic field, the magnet will become demagnetized much faster than if it just sits by itself. The wheel is spinning because of opposing magnetic fields. If the life of the magnet was so long that it makes no practical difference, and it takes a relatively low amount of energy to create said magnets, then they would in themselves be perpetual motion machines, as they are effectively capable of creating more energy than was used to create them. I would be willing to bet the guy's hand motion puts less energy into the system than the magnetic fields of the magnets themselves. As in, they are effectively weakening by the same amount of energy they are putting into the system.
He needs to build a gear that moves it for him using the spinning wheel
But then he couldn't trick people when it didn't work.
You are correct. Presenter does not know much science... but magnets are actually pretty confusing... Really... I mean it. Go ahead then. Tell me how magnets work.... no, go ahead and google it... and then explain it to me.. Ah... see? It's still hard. You will have a tough time getting around some version of: "Magnets work because they are magnetic". You are totally correct however that devices like these will not "spin until the magnets have no charge". It does not work because a magnetic field is ball shaped... not beam shaped, there is no way to arrange the fields so that you won't encounter force going in the wrong direction.. that is what will stop the mechanism from spinning.
ultimate machine for ultimate unlimited energy:::
1) get a cat
2) get a piece of toast with butter on it
3) tape the toast with the butter upright on the back of the cat
4) throw in the air. the cat-toast will infinitely spin as toast always lands butter side up but cats always land on their feet downwards
5) free infinite energy $$$
What happens when the cat dies of hunger?
M. Scott Veach get a new cat
The cat would eventually die which makes it limited energy, besides the energy would be coming from the food given to the cat which means there is input.
ShinigamiH
New energy into the system then!
You seriously couldn't even get the idea right, I really hope you did not copy paste...
Toast always lands BUTTER SIDE DOWN, not up... IF it would've landed butter side up, the cat would have landed safely. Dumbass
I love how people say its impossible. If you were told 40 years ago that you, in the future , will be able to carry a small device that fits in your pocket that will keep you in contact with anyone around the world at any given time, with no wires attached, you’d probably say that’s impossible too. Electricity at one time was also impossible..
Except phones don’t violate the laws of thermodynamics
This is one of those "fields" where the bar of succeeding will always be raised as soon as something gets close to reaching it.
At 5:36 Neodymium magnets are "the strongest batteries"
OMG I laught so hard :D
I heard it too
2 or 3 times he said it
Why aren’t people talking about that? I’m ashamed, CZcams comment section..
I was stunned that he repeated himself like he did!!! I'd just left another vid where the commenters kept going on about Brian Cox being smarter than Neil deGrasse -Tyson because he had a British accent!
I need to get them to this vid! LOL
Why didnt i notice that?
The magnets last 400 years that's perpetual to me
he does not explain the reason why it does not work right. the reason is that he uses energy to push the magnet against and then pull it away, now if the spin energy would be used it would stop VERY fast
They wont last nearly 400 years when the are placed in an opposing magnetic field.
Mr Guzman you could have a battery last that ammount of time, pls rethink.
They like to nitpick anything that's not absurdly British on this channel. I'm not sure why.
Even if they would last 400 years, the energy they'd create cannot exceed the energy needed to create replacement magnets.
Roses are red. Violates are blue. I came for the thumbnail, and so did you
Violates? The laws of physics?
Replacing magnets is tremendously cheaper than how we get energy now
True but that's not the real reason the magnet based machines aren't really perpetual motion machines. This video is appallingly sloppy on the subject. You cannot extract energy from a static magnetic field only from a moving one and it will always take more energy to move a magnetic field than you can possibly recover. The classic example is the generator connected to a motor version of an over unity device. The generator turns a moving magnetic field into electrical energy and the motor turns the electricity into a moving magnetic field which turns the motor which turns the generator. At any speed above zero there will be loses due mainly to friction and heat so it will very quickly slow down to zero speed from whatever speed it starts at... And zero speed is useless.
A static force like a magnetic field or gravity cannot do work on its own and energy is in effect work done. There has to be a change in the potential energy of whatever the force is acting upon for it to do work.
Anthony Handcock magnet grab trains are faster and cheaper than electric. I see what you’re saying but magnetic power or magnetic assisted power is still cheap.
@@JC.998 "magnet grab trains are faster and cheaper than electric"... What the hell are you talking about? You can't power trains with magnets. As I've already explained to you a fixed magnetic field cannot perform any work. Mag-Lev trains only work because they are moved by a varying electro-magnetic field and that takes energy.
There's no such thing in the real world as "magnetic power".
@@JC.998 They're not cheaper? They can be faster as they have no friction from steel rails like a normal train but due to the enormous energy cost, track cost and requirements that the track cannot really be part of a level crossing (requiring bridges and tunnels everywhere around it) they're much more expensive...
That magnetic power is created by using a huge flow of electric energy through electro-magnets so again not cheap...
To put it simple: if it were cheaper, they'd be using it.
Was really looking out for "watermelon pumps". Smh
I'm quite fascinated by the construction that you had in the thumbnail... do you have any information on what it is?
+Rodrigo the Happy Dog
Quick reverse google image search man :D
www.lacma.org/art/exhibition/metropolis-ii
That thing was so colorful
+1
its a perpetual click bait device :)
+Aussie Soarer (AusSoarer) +1
I'm so glad you got a stylist Simon!!!
People should not waste time on perpetual motion, but focus on the efficiency of these kinds of devices. Finding a way to use renewable energy coupled with some of these ideas seems like it would be an interesting project. Ocean currents?
5:35 The strongest *batteries* commercially available are neodymium *magnets*... Oops
5:36 "the strongest batteries commercially available are neodymium magnets."
wait, this isn't true? I tried to upgrade my iphone and now it won't turn on.
the more you know
yeah and the watermelon wtf i doubt this guy knows anything.
No
Water mill and*
Was just about to say "YOU DIDNT TRY APPLE JUICE" but you guys had it covered 👍
So perpetual motion isn't possible, got it, but in #9 it is mentioned that friction would cause the parts to need to be replaced. Does that mean its possible to make something that could work "perpetually" with the limitation of needing continual maintenance? Or would the maintenance required just make it not worth doing?
Mainly I'm wondering if a generator that just doesn't require any new input outside of repairing worn down parts is possible and/or practical.
Yes, all these perpetual motion machines are bogus and fraudulent. But this guy is clueless as to the actual reasons why.
If a magnet could be used to safely ignore bearings, and drive a machine, then why would these idiots refuse to acknowledge its usefulness because, "It won't last forever."
@@halcionkoenig243 because it will last about 1 day before becoming demagnetized and require replacement magnets. More energy is needed to replace the magnet than the machine would put out, at which point the magnet is just another fuel device
@@MelodicTurtleMetal The problem is not demagnetization, but that it will not work at all. Possible magnetic machine after a while finds a position from which it does not start absolutely (it is an equilibrium position). The magnet itself does not work and is not a battery. Machines on the opposite principle, ie magnetization, can do little work if we disrupt that equilibrium state, perhaps by Coriolis force, as the Norwegian sculptor has done. Overnight, they must demagnetize their balls to be ready for visitors to their museum in the morning. So work is equal to the force that caused the imbalance and it is scarce. It is not about generating excess energy. The real (non-existent) perpetual mobile must accelerate (of course) and eventually release an infinite amount of destructive energy. We can be pleased that perpetuum mobile only works on CZcams fraudsters videos.
none of these machines had any load on them. try to power something and they stop working.
place magnets on the wheel and coils sitting still next to them and you will have frictionless power.
+Kjell Kittelson Exactly, remove energy from the closed system and they will all stop working.
not the proper way to look at it... if something could magically create free energy, it'd be a matter of not taking more energy from the system than is created in excess.
completely agree!!!
These aee small prototypes built by people in their spear time, if governments wanted to they could be reasurching how to get usable energy from something like this.
Yea, I usually enjoy this guy's videos, but the 'not prepetual because magnets wear out' and 'frictionless' lines show he doesn't really know much about what he's trying to explain.
It’s almost like this guys trying to stop us from creating our own free energy
Dang it...i could have sworn he said Watermelon Pump 😂😂
Rene Prado I heard that too!
5:36 "the strongest batteries available are made out of neodymium" I believe you mean magnets available are made of of neodymium lol
Couldn't some of these idea be used to make engines more efficient?
Yes, but like the Australian Energy Department, these fools say, "Well, it can't immediately be better, so why bother?"
Seriously, they have an energy crisis, and instead of letting foreigners build energy plants to relieve the problem, they literally stated the above as to why they denied Tesla.
"We need a 90% improvement to our energy grid, and you're telling us your plants can only provide a 20% improvement? Yeah no, you're clearly not qualified to fix our problem."