Cheers for everything guys. As usual, remember I'm not looking for suggestions on how to defend that scenario. While I appreciate it, that's not the point of the video. The point is that regardless of what you do, the game will alter the outcome of a pass to ensure it benefits the guy playing the pass. The point is to show that the community doesnt like this and pray EA sees that
Stallion great vid and good points raised. I agree with you in principle that bad decisions shouldn't be rewarded but I often encounter these exact scenarios playing offline h2h with my cousin and he does these type of passes so often I do believe it is intentional and within his control. So in summary: 1) I do think player's direction input matters. 2) Assistance is a thing like you have pointed out but I think it's more likely to occur the higher rated passing stats the player has e.g KDB good luck intercepting. 3) You've pointed out instances where assistance results in amazing outcomes but there are times when assistance clearly screws you over not doing your intended pass at all, so I guess it does kinda balance out like that in a way.
@@chengetaimugabe3860 No, it doesn't actually balance out. If you watch his fifa 20 videos he explains it. Passing assistance is annoying because it's used to give advantage to the worse player(dda). Your opponent gets better assisted passes while you actually get worse passes like the "running to corner flag run" instead of passing normally and giving you a 1v1 with the keeper. Also it encourages drop back cause you need more players to cover up for the game messing up.
@@CoolGuy000000000001 fair comment but curious how does the game decide who is the better player? Online I guess there is your live win record but remember I play off-line and experience the same thing. I get far less "assisted" passes but I do get some and all time I think I'm smashing my cousin by a good 30 games in our H2H record.
@@chengetaimugabe3860 they can already detect your difficulty level if you play a single game against the AI. it isn't hard for them to figure out if you're on a winning streak or not. And again watch his fifa 20 passing videos where he shows normal easy passes that aren't working. The passes are fundamentally broken on purpose.
What's the point of tackling when most of the time my opponent just gets the ball back..... Passing is ridiculous its either shocking or it makes a miracle pass
Yeah its both absolute shit its more rewarding to not tackle and try and walk into the player with the ball since it bounces back less but if u don’t immediately get it away he auto tackles the ball back and the same happens. But when u make a perfect tackle he will get the ball 9/10 Times to try again also passing is so weird 2 bars power absolutely lasers the ball forward to my striker when i wanted a pass to the side on a player thats like 6-10 meters away and when u have 3-3.5 bars of power it only goed 2 meters like whats the point of it the power bar if it doesn’t matter anyway
The game rewards the players who have no fucking game sense and think playing 30000 bad passes before eventually breaking down an already braindead defense is a "style of play", they don't realise how fucking stupid it is to play the way they do. I think EA pretty much realised that if they make the game cater to bad players then they all have a reason to keep playing cuz they don't get their ass whooped now and get spoonfed by the game. It's pathetic, you don't need to make an online video game a 'safe space' for people. That's the point of online gaming.
That's the point in FIFA it rewards bad players to even the skill gap out you have to almost not okay the game to be able to play the game. I.e if your good at tackling an win the ball back often the sliders will change your pass error will go up to even the game out an give your opponent a fair share of the ball.... It's pathetic really but true most top players do very little in terms of defending an let the AI do it for them. It's absolute bs if you just want to play the game properly
I've tested this avoid interception passing, directly aimed a pass to my opponent and the game redirects it at another angle over and over and over, interceptions don't come that easily, now I understand why I can never get the ball back until I concede a shot or the ball goes out of play. What is even the point of the game? Just let me play how I want to
@@eosobande That would mean as an average decent player you'd be able to use your full skill in the game and thus not necessarily requiring you to have a top team to beat players that do. EA doesn't want this because they want Fifa points to be sold. I remember in the earlier years in ultimate team I could beat certain players who had a God squad with my gold team, that's a lot harder to do for me now, (at least when I use to play Fifa) with all the bs and scripting or whatever that happens in Fifa now, all for the sake of people buying FPs and opening packs to get a better team.
@@mathrockmaniac7643 Just use manual or semi-manual controls you idiots, it's really not that deep. It's your own fault if you use auto passing. Also maybe it's time to face the fact that you just got worse or didn't adapt to gameplay changes over the years, rather than creating a conspiracy where EA cheats you.
@@grdkgameplays1496 I know the truth is harsh, I understand your frustration. It's nothing to be ashamed of that you are bad at the game. It's completely natural to look for excuses.
SPOT on. But EA will never listen. The will always have their AI defending, passing and DDA on max, so little Timmy can open more packs with moms credit card.
And the feeling when you tackle to opposition 4 times and he still has the ball also when you move your defender out of line to manually tackle..succeed but ball falls back to him.. This game punishes manual tackle again.
This fifa for me is without a doubt the worst when it comes to defending. I would definitely consider myself a casual player, but even so I have never out loud said so many times, "I read that pass". This game is the least rewarding when it comes to defending. And dont even get me started on second man press
Facts bro idk how many times i got mad cuz i read the opponent’s play and still couldn’t do sht , it stresses me out it’s like 90% of the time cuz i dont get mad when you score an amazing goal that I didn’t see coming but ohgod this fifa raises my blood pressure
This happens a lot, why I did to minimize these errors, I went on instructions of the players, and set it as 'intercept the ball'. You can also try the aggressive tackle instruction. But this game is full of bugs.. Sometimes it seems like the ball is connected to certain team. Everything happens so the goal can happen.
EA will never change it, they want to feel like your players are bad so you Fifa points to improve your team, it's been like that since Fifa 14 in my opinion and they progressively increased AI control on everything, the game decides what your players do, it's not about skills , it's about giving EA more money.
Correct, the game isn't truly free, even though people feel like they're in control they are not, at least not to the full extent they should be. The game feels like it's on wires at times like you have to force players to do the things you want them to do and sometimes they even don't. The better players are the ones who can exploit the game's flaws, knows how to counter someone using the game's flaws against them and know how to play when the game is going against them. Not saying they are only good because of that reason, but the average player who is decent at the game and just wants to play the game without having to deal with the games flaws and exploits will be at a disadvantage because the game is poorly made.
@@mathrockmaniac7643 Thats why we today have these pros. More competetive oriented game with manipulative gameplay makes it such a toxic game. Only solution is P2P option. Even that doesnt solve everything, but I played 100 games p2p in FUT seasons i fifa 19. Swear I lost max 5-10 max. Such clean gameplauy, damn.
Ehh passing is weird, I don’t think it’s bad but at times the pass can go make some weird bail out curve to a direction where it’s impossible to take away where he never directed it with joystick to.
I think the problems in this game is defending is a bit too easy and bounce backs off defenders are unreal. Defending is only easy cuz attackers are very limited to how you build up a attack. Most build up attacks now are counter attack with low depth and holding the ball in the middle of the pitch for 10 minutes to wait for ppl to bite. The holding the ball makes the game boring.
The fun fifa was when defenders had to bite 70% of the time to stop a attack build up and a goal.Nowadays you don’t need to bite cuz you can stay back with low depth with Varane and Van Dijk and sit there and jockey like a mad man left and right and win the ball. These stuff causes ppl to play possesion pass all day and wait for someone to bite to get a goal now. 21 is evolving to Fifa 20
Goat FACTS BRO I SEE LITERALLY EVERYONE PLAY LOW DEBT AND EVEN WITH SKILLS YOU CANT GET PASSED THE JOCKEY DEFENSE ITS JUST COUNTERS AND WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO BITE 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Ben Yedder's turn at that speed is physically imposible. Since I started playing Fifa I realized this game was far from what real football is. Also Stallion, the way the ball moves, fast at the beginning, then magically reducing speed, it is very unrealistic.
Its not that its not realistic, its mechanics programmed to benefit the opponent in terms of scripting. The way the ball moves in terms of speed and where it goes is really scripted.
The worst part is that in football, If the runner goes up but the pass down, the runner and the passer usually look at each other like "damn son, we weren't on the same wavelength this time". In FIFA, the game doesnt consider that and just rewards dumb things
@@StallionSama this right here! That’s it. How tf is the passer and the receiver on the same page with passes like that. It makes no sense. Ea needs to figure this out
This game is tripe possession hoarders around your box are inevitably rewarded when you make a challenge that bounces straight back to them, 90% of the time a skill move abuser is rewarded when you clearly read his intentions but the game allows him to ghost through or auto lunges your defender & well as for the clear rig EA can determine you or your opponent has during a match is there for all to see.
Finally someone else figured this out I’ve been telling my friends this since fifa 17 , it’s like an algorithm the game is not doing what you command, it’s doing what it’s think you wanna do..., example I’m making a through pass to my player, the ball doesn’t go the direction I’m aiming it just make a random through ball in a random open space and your player locks on, it doesn’t matter what direction he was running in and how he was positioned the game is build on algorithm and weird players animations almost everything looks great until the replay
Bro those replays are horrible, you think you scored a nice goal until you watch the replay and see these weirdest unnatural animations where the player is skipping frames and warping towards the ball
@@eosobande bro i check back on replays after losing the ball to see what really happened only to see my player stop sprinting for a second to give the AI chance to get around and win the ball it looks as if we are in full control of the game , but we are not, we are only in charge of a small percentage of what happens, players literally give up the ball and perform an animation as if the were hassled off it, sometimes the animations are performed too early
@@AaronsWorld0007 thank you, that horrendous animation they make when they get tackled baffles me, and even most times it looks as if they refuse to recover until the opponent finally gets away with the ball, sometimes they literally dive when tackled, there's this 3 second window they just refuse to do anything after getting tackled. And dont get me started on their absolute stupidity when there's a loose ball, they just can't be bothered with recovering a loose ball. This game is a fraud
EA will never make a game that punishes bad decisions because they will lose MILLIONS in FUT profits. Tackling, closing passing lanes, marking runs, interceptions, passing, basic skill moves (ball roll) All skilled aspects of the game are broken. Sprinting, changing direction, shooting, AI blocks, basic controls every fifa player can do, all OP.
As someone who played football professionally, your videos are always on point. This issue is so bad, even under 8 children at the football academy play batter than fifa ai
passing needs a complete rework. and i believe that this level of assistance that everyone is using needs to go. semi, or even less, should be the maximum assistance. we need more skill in shooting and passing, and i think semi is more than enough for everyone - especially for casuals to have fun. i agree about everything you said here also. the moment where assistance is calculated, and the way it is calculated should be changed. it should be calculated when the pass button was pressed, and not 2 seconds after that when the player is actually passing the ball which makes the direction chosen by the player completely irrelevant because the game calculates it much after that when the situation on the pitch changed (everyone moved etc). making an insane pass has to be one of the things we can admire in someone's game, we don't have that atm and it's horrible, it's the actual fundamental of the game, not chaining 12 elasticos. you're also definitely right that EA doesn't like punishing bad decisions. it's pretty obvious from the way sliders are in favor of a team that's trying to pass from their own box. it's almost impossible to punish a horrible decision there, even if you magically end up intercepting a pass, the game will often trigger some horrible animation for the player who's intercepting, that we've barely seen before, doing everything it can to save the guy making the mistake at his back line.
@@norrsken17 yes and only against friends (they on manual too) or career mode, ut just made me want to throw my controller to the wall, I swear I haven't felt like that in years but 3 days of ut killed me inside (last ut I played was 17 and it wasn't this frustrating)
@@LOONAbd same here. fut is like gambling. if you're interested in playing some online friendlies please consider adding me as a friend. my origin id: norrsken_bp
That's why I switched to PES, no matter how broken/bad PES gameplay it still respects basic Football fundamentals while FIFA pissed over it. Also I'm still mind blown that FIFA lacks a feature that PES has which is the "Manual Button" where you hold LB/L1 (LT/L2 if you're playing FIFA controls) where the commands (Passing, Shooting and whatever becomes fully manual), check out KnightMD's video about Manual Passing in PES and i've tried full manual gameplay in PES it's hard but once you master it becomes something out of this world.
Pes isn’t good in my opinion I like the concept of a fun arcade game with realistic features the problem is with fifa is the game doesn’t do what you want which causes rage then there is broken mechanics that gets abused that’s not a fair game I’ve found that at the start of each fifa there is a two week window b4 the first patch where the game is purely based on skill.
Agree with you 100% I left Pes to FIFA and I've come back again the only problem with Pes I'm sat here with a great team an nothing to do I can do a ranked match and that's about it, both games are heavily scripted, but generally the passing is far less broken in Pes. Both games ruined by mixro transactions that's all they are bothered about anymore
@Owen Flibbert It's terrible because you suck at it & didn't bother learning it because you were lazy. Trust me, i did it a few times too along with some friends. If you try playing PES "the fifa way" then of course it won't be fun because you ain't gonna win jackshit. After 11 years on fifa, I switched to PES 2021 this year & i couldn't be happier. Plus, Konami themselves said this year it was more of an update & heavily discounted it. EA has been selling you a squad update at full price for last 4 fookin years.
I found the solution to this is to grab a CB and sprint backwards like crazy, dont track the run or the player, just sprint backwards. Even the SB AI does it
This one! This one! This one! I even have clips for this. The squad battle AI knows it can't beat the script as well so one CB usually runs back off screen when you win back the ball, you think you're through on goal but nooo, you're either met with that CB who had ran back to not get caught out with this weird passing animation or he steps up and can now intercept the through ball on the changed direction. IT IS THE SOLUTION
Very good video and I agree with you partly. However in my opinion the biggest problem with Fifa is not the fact that passing is rigged or shooting doesn‘t work, or the deffense is bs... all of these are just symptoms of what‘s increasingly becoming a trend in most sport games/ competitive games, namely the randomization of outcome. Every year competitive games become less reliant on skill and depend more and more on chance. Games are competing for your attention against social media, netflix, tv, your friends etc. Guess what psychological pattern creates the greatest dependency on people and is systematically implemented by most modern tech companies to gain your precious attention time: random reinforcement. How do you make sure that random reinforcement happens in a videogame where the player (apparently) has the control? You just randomize the outcome of their actions (and then you let your PR guy tell in front of the camera that you are just making the game more lifelike). Regarding this specific example that you describe in your video I am sorry but it is not that passing in Fifa rewards bad decissions. The problem is that passing is not consistent throughout all matches and all situations. If it consistently rewarded bad decissions you would be able to come up with a strategy to counter the mechanic. But, just like any other mechanic in the game, it is random. Sometimes the ball will go where you intended, sometimes the ai will help you, sometimes you will get EA‘d. Everything with the goal of having you say after every insane game: „just one more game, this time I won’t make the same mistakes“. And this leads to the actual problem, which is exactly what you mentiond in one part of your video: what you do has very little influence in the game. When people say that competitive games nowadays are like casinos they don’t just mean the shameless business model of microtransactions tiered for kids, but the whole way the game has been conceived. The sad reality is that where our grandads pulled the levers of slot machines looking for that jackpot, we press the X button of our ps-controller hoping that a virtual ball will take the path we intended.
I think everything should be on manual..even shooting. That's when you'll see massive skill gaps between players. Over time as everyone adapts, the quality of gameplay would rise...creating more realistic gameplay These 8 goal games every match dont happen in real life,ultra rare..if they remove assisted we wont see it in fifa either
exactly. in seasons, you can't find manual players above div 6. on the rare occasions someone matching me on manual by accident, as soon as they realize it's on manual they are gone... ridiculous. okay, it's a free 3-0 for me, but c'mon.
Been quite a few years since Fifa ever came close to being a decent game, let alone a decent sports game. I'd stay away from the series altogether from now on.
While having a opponent counter attacking, I've noticed some of my defenders freeze or slow down. Like the AI of this games wants you to conceed either way. FIFA 21 is trash. Bring the fun back and this shit
Was PES but you all noobs who cant win at PES start buy fifa who offer you shot and pass assist on controll and also other noobs features who make all noobs look pro player on a game who sucks..
@@glsmokerUSCOOLHIPHOPCHANNELGMG PES is worse than FIFA. These guys move like they all shit they pants. Also the defending in pes is as bad as fifa. I think I'll be staying away from both games this year. I however will not be buying a PES game anytime soon as these guys have no clue on how to properly make a football game
@@youngmicrowave127 - Have you tried Super Cancel? -Any ideas of what Manual Control is? And if you play PES the same way you play FIFA, of course it'll look even worse...
Great analysis once again. Can you also start analysing PES as well? Not saying it's better overall but I do feel some gameplay aspects are a bit better.
Class video man. Im feeling im playing against the servers and the mechanics of my opponent, not the player. I miss fifa 13. Gameplay wise and funwise (gameplay wise in terms of p2p and never having ridicolous button delay). Every player was so responsive, now you just have to pray that your opponent doesnt have crazy advantage over you in terms of button delay, because then ur Mbappe and Neymar play like 39 rated bronzes, which doesnt even exist. I cant understand the dedicated servers in a 1va1 game. In PES you can choose between dedicated servers and P2P. That should be the case here as well.
Bro fifa 13 was my first fifa, and I keep telling people 13 is the gold standard, everything just worked, I never found myself complaining about the game mechanics. Nothing like kick off goals, Player switching worked , Passing worked, Defending worked, Attacking ai worked, Tackles worked, Keepers worked, Left stick movement and left stick dribbling were so responsive that I never felt a need to learn skill moves The only issues were momentum and pace abuse, apart from that, the game was great. At this point I'll willingly take a fifa 13 remaster
@@eosobande Thats true m8. I guess I was one of the rats abusins with wellington and Di Natale, but you know most players were usable at that time. And sooooo responsive, and I know everyone had it that way. P2P solves that with ping measurement. I miss playing, always played 1500-2000 games every fifa until fifa 17. Dedicated came and yeah basically everything turned around. They have to implement and P2P option in FUT for us to actually be able and to enjoy the game. I dont freaning know why there isnt a bigger movement towards this..
with the new camera settings i cant understand how a person can see this as realistic. it feels scripted even when you just pass, and players are now more than ever, literally like robots
They desperately need to uncomplicate the passing system and controls. A regular ground pass should be aimed directly at the receiver, under no circumstances should it be a type of pass that magically has its trajectory altered to have it avoid potential interception. A through ball should always be played ahead of the receiver based on their movement at the time the pass is being charged up. What we have now is so incredibly inconsistent that it damages both offensive and defensive play.
Yeah, the amount of times a regular ground pass triggers a Striker or Wide CAM to perfectly move through into a scoring position, and have the pass perfectly find them is amazing. Whereas the through ball becomes a "pass to goalkeeper" button almost anywhere in the final third.
Everything in this game feels like it's on wires, the game doesn't feel truly free, especially when the ball is designated to fall/go to a player most of the time. That coupled with all the other problems is why I decided to stop playing Fifa for good after skipping multiple titles. Fifa 20 is the last. I wonder if Stallion isn't tired of making these vids every year lol smh.
Most fifa streamers only play because they earn money from it, not because they enjoy it. And they can't go to another game because nobody will watch your stream if you're not good at the game. Except if you're a woman ;)
That's why Stallion needs the most support out of most FIFA content creators cuz what he does actually takes a lot of mental strength and durability to keep doing, I can't even imagine it because me as a player will play maybe 100-200 games every year (since the game went to shit in 18) and stop there permanently, but he has to keep resetting every week and giving it a go again and make good content on top of that. And it's clear he does it for the sake of the improvement of the game too. Stallion is goated
@@yegfuf Yeah I know, but damn it's sad man. I remember playing Fifa 20 and some of the crap that happened was insane. It just built up until one final game where my opponent scored a bs goal from a ridiculously impossible angle near post, where my defenders and keeper was covering. I immediately uninstalled the game.
Until they make passing more manual, as in if I power the pass with 2 bars, it will be two bar pass. Not what the game desires. This is what makes interceptions impossible. You just don’t know when the aim assistance will kick in. It’s the reason why noobs sit back and play drop back and hold x to contain.
I did not buy 2020 and played it only once as I don't consider it a football game. I tried 21 last night and saw that it was sooo much different from 19. I was disgusted at how powerful dribbling and passing was. And also the fact you can just turn and get rid of your marker so easily is just a mind fuck. I'm also skipping this trash
For EA is easy to ignore a few people complaining about the auto pass correction, than a bunch of casual players winning that they cannot pass the ball straight because of the pass "inconsistency" (but in fact is their own fault due to bad decisions in game).
I get your point about passing being unbalanced, its very prevalent when the opponent uses team press, a situation where passing and composure stats of the player, along with body orientation and distance to receiver should play the deciding role, the passes go absolutely straight to the opponent from the feet of De Bruynes and Messis. Through balls are a different thing though, and is very punishment based, which is fair IMO but could do with more error percentage when hitting them too hard. Maybe something to consider when adjusting your play style to the meta.
THIS IS FACTS. I have so many examples from the last Fifa and so far this one as well. They "correct" bad passes to assist bad decisions to bridge the skill gap. So sickening doesn't matter really what you do. One time I saw a redirection of the ball and I am happy to send the video to anyone.
If you play Squad Battles on Legendary or Ultimate , you can see the best examples of both what the meta of the game is and also the “adjusting” of passes. The AI is reactive to your every move , it plays reacting to your movements , you go left , it goes right , give space , it sprints , close the distance , it shields. Then , almost every pass the AI mades it’s perfectly placed into space or to the player intended and away from the opponent, no matter if it’s a bronze gk playing as a midfielder. The game is not based on players , stats and skill but on decisions made by the game itself that override everything else. I’m not talking out one of the game (win -lose) but decisions of every play.
I really appreciate this video. As a person that has played both pes and fifa, my biggest gripe is just how bad defense is. Most teams in real life lose possession through interceptions along with cutting out short passes through team pressing. In fifa the passing is so assisted that it feels mindless. I think fifa 16 had fifa playing the best it's ever played. If fifa is going to be a competitive game it has to respect the defense just as much as the offense. The balance of the game has been bad for a while. The casuals will play regardless if u make defense better or not. Either learn how to play defense or get smashed
Before FIFA 21 I considered myself a decent player as I could even beat the legendary AI 7-8 times out of 10 games. I stayed in division 1 in online season till FIFA 20, now division 5-6 players beats me. In every match my scoreline is usually 4-5, 5-6, 4-6 even 7-8 This is ridiculous EA sports must be ashamed
Passing, positioning, defending, dribbling, the worse part os we can all se the potential. But they choose year after year to f*ck us over. This should never be a competitive game.
I used to play fifa on full manual until i stopped after they introduced first touch error. The iteration after that just went worst for me so i stopped buying fifa. There is nothing wrong with that feature but i feel like year by year they add features to make the game "feel challenging" that punish those playing on full manual (this include harder and more tactical defending feature). I just can't go back to assisted passing because i hated so much that the ball is not going to where i intended (even when the assists improve my chance). The change that fifa need in order to improve gameplay challenge is just to reduce the assisted passing. Or make the player direction change more realistic. How a player can instantly change direction they're running based on the ball coming from their back is ridiculous. Also the ball physics looks weird with assisted passing. Now playing and enjoying full time on pes.
Another amazing video exposing the actual state of "the best Fifa ever" - whoever said this about Fifa 21 probably has never watched an actual football match... At this point I cannot understand how FUT is still considered a competitive game: match results are altered by 2324234 external factors (starting from the AI) and a vast majority of pro players are just exploiting game mechanics, systematically. If I was an E-Sports investor I would never spend a dime on such a fraud.
Totally agree! Another thing that would be interesting to be covered are penalties. Did you ever notice how keepers dive almost touching the top corners? Its like sooooo unrealistic that always makes me laugh and think that I am playing some kind of super hero game... EA coders/engineers need to start to watch real football... (and not call it soccer)
The same thing will happen for example in squad battles where the system reads your intentions and do exactly the opposite... The AI player will dribble towards you and keep stopping because you’re already registering tackles on your controller, so if you’re going right it will go left so completely missed it...On a rival or WL match things like these also happens where the AI favours the less skilful players...You can see that your opponent is not a good player but there’s nothing you can do...
With the second example the main problem is that players dont intercept those passes, you can read the whole play perfectly but the ball will slide right near your player when you are in the passing lane In real life that pass to Ben Yedder with positioning of De Jong wouldnt make it through
In the first example you tried tracking the run with koulibaly but you should’ve ran back with the other center back, keeping your team’s shape intact. Very simple
I have noticed one thing in fifa, the skills in this game are nice, so is new goalkeeper movement which helps me against less aware players, but one thing that has always annoyed me is defending, the fake shot across the corner flag is too OP, the left stick dribbling is outrageously OP. If the attacking team is left stick dribbling with agile players, your done, the ball is literally stuck on their feet, this mechanism needs to be implemented on defending aswell, I think I'm quite the fifa player and will adapt to anybody's play but defending is killing this game.
Turn the fifa trainer on. Where u aim and how much power u put into it creates an arrow that chooses the closest player. The rest is the passers passing stats (vision and etc). I get how that's frustrating but it's a video game.
Gave up.. First FIFA i had was 01, Had every one until the last FIFA i bought in 2018. Feels good to not be robbed, constantly furious and currently going through controllers at a fractional rate. FEELS GOOD
Your correct in this video! The only thing I could say with the first instance something Fifa analyst said and could have work was instead of using Kolabaily to mark the upward run he was going is to your other CB space so he should have track it instead. I know it farfetched but I believe that's the logic EA working with
In the first example lcb should have been selected as you were expecting a pass upwards. Instead of selecting the rcb and making a huge gap at the back. However I totally agree with your point!
3:09 if you had run backwards vertically you could have defended, obviously the game slightly helps you sometimes but there is always something you can do, the only reason that pass went through is because you ran vertically, you yourself draw your intended movement and that's just not where you should run to.
The worst thing about FIFA 21 gameplay is for me, that containing a player while not tackling is not possible, and the defensive Midfielders who just start jogging when overplayed. They don't run back and cover spaces, help out the defense. Once the ball is behind them they just jog a little if you're not playing them actively, often forcing you to use a centerback and leave the defending line, which is an invite for the easiest 1-2. The moment you have to use a centerback actively most of the time you can just pray that it works out, it doesn't feel like you're in control of how your team defends.
In order to make a pass like the first example you showed in fifa 15 you would literally have to aim it a little off of the person you want to receive it and then when the game switched to that player you would have to run towards it, but now it just happens automatically and it feels shitty when someone gets a pass like this off because you know thats not what they were aiming for, even on semi the game holds your hand so much so you get the same passing angles over and over and over its ridiculous
The pther problem related to this is the fact that the striker changes direction and lock on to the ball instantly while the deffender’s movement stutter before starting to run
I'm truly agree with everything you say. I play full manual and I can't bear theese situations anymore. There's nothing I can do to intercept the passages from my opponent. Every shot is directed to the goal, and this is absolutely not real and annoying. 95% of Fifa gamers play this way, unfortunately there's nothing we can do. I really hope Fifa developers watch your videos, but I suppose they would never change anything the same. Keep fighting for a better, more real game.
Switch everything to Manuel and you’ll have a better experience. My aim and passing is not assisted and once you get used to being Manuel you’ll kill anyone using assisted. Your first example he might of used the Manuel pass.
One more example for manipulating the game is, when the defender touched the ball but the ball is invincible so the attacker is "winning", or in other words: the defender is losing the fight because the game want it!
This is your most important video yet and I hope the right people see this and take some action from it. That all we can hope for or this game is finished
No you can make the change stop thinking EA gives a fuck about a few thousand people not buying there game they are a billion dollar company. The only way is 98% of the community gets together and not buy this game for just one year and you will see changes
this is exactly the biggest problem of this game, to me even more than tackling and rebounds, because as you said, you do something right, they do something wrong, but somehow they get rewarded and not you. and even if its me to be wrong and get the pass its not fun, im not learning to be better and create spaces
Exactly. No matter what you do you cant stop it. Even if you guess the final outcome, we all know the game will direct a pass to wherever you aren't standing
still bothers me how its easier to make pinpoint cross-field bicycle kick-crosses than control the ball and make a 5 yard pass. The gameplay has been dictated by delay, deflections, and shit ai since fifa 17, also the game has felt like pinball since 19.
In Fifa the Pass receiver gets eyes behind his back telepathy to read the passer mind and 100 reaction and acceleration for few seconds where the defender gets 2 eyes 1 reaction and 1 acceleration and 0 brain cells to do anything to it
How can you say that there is nothing you can do when you don’t run your defender back. In a real game if you are moving forward and the attacker is running in behind he can easily change direction and move into the space you have created. The defender should always run backwards to ensure that they can cover all of the space. It’s your fault not the games.
@@StallionSama I’m watching your gameplay mate, I understand that the through ball was heavily assisted but in my opinion it’s a football game and instead of it being realistic you need to understand the mechanics. On the first play, you can see your player move slightly forward which significantly reduces the chance of recovery when the ball is played in behind. I’m an elite 3 player so not claiming to be insane but even I can see that it was possible to defend There are much bigger issues in this game like 1st touches and left stick dribbling is complete shit.
@@StallionSama in my opinion this comment section is full of people who just want to complain about a game in its very early stages because they are not good enough. I’ve rarely lost to bullshit and it’s usually always something I have done wrong.
@@barrykimber7692 Agree Barry, needs to adjust his strategy, just run towards goal here, he was too tight to defender allowing this situation to arise.
In the first example, if you tracked the runner with the other cb and left koulibaly in the space that he was he wouldn't of been able to make the pass, even if he did you other cb would of been on him so u could won the tackle, ur rb could of covered for the other cb, or last resort if that didn't work you could of just taken him out slide tackle bang you'll recieve a red card but fuck it sometimes you gotta take 1 for the team.
Thanks Stallion, you've totally spoken out what I was frustrated for. So painful to see all these nonsense/glitches as it is what I've been abused by. I do love football and that's why I still buy this game, but sadly as if I was being kidnapped at the same time by EA
Wowww thanks for being honest 😔 Sometimes I think all CZcamsrs have been brainwashed or are being paid by EA because I don't feel the same way they feel about the game
Turn off assist pass maybe. The assist feature are made to help players with minimal effort. Sometimes it make the pass even worse. As a real life amateur league footballer who play LW, CF, LM, and CAM a lot,feint run is a real thing where the striker influent a slower but stronger defender to make a run on the wrong decision to allow him receive the pass and making even bigger gap. In other method, change player. Don't just stick to the same player. I always change player to get the best result. In the first clip with yellow opponent, that is a legit pass. Very normal irl. And why would you drag the right CB to the left when he was running to the left your left side of the pitch. Koulibaly need to just stand his ground and cover his area. Leave it to the other CB because the attacker was running toward the other CB area. That is the point of through pass. Get it? THROUGH PASS. Passing directly to him would cause him to run over to Koulibaly's partner in CB. You ever see how Van Dijk mark player irl? I would usually agree on people's arguments on how bad defending in FIFA since there never was really a gameplay overhaul for defending. Most are attacking. The gameplay changes mainly to improve attacking from generic football style, to footsal/futsal style, which kinda ruin the realism and proving hard time for defending. But this is seriously a dumb point you're trying to come up with. You're trying to argue a real life technique here.
To be very honest, i really think you are right about passes being bad, but if your point is to make fifa more like real football, then those through passes should kinda stay the same, cuz in real life you dont always and only pass in the direction your teammate is running, cuz there may be a better way to pass like they do in fifa
i totally agree, the passing is not intuitive... you make a pass and the game tries to be clever for you and does something completely different from your intention and u end up losing your chance because you weren't prepared for the game's brialliant pirlo-esque passing engine mechanics that does ramdom things. Most of the time, the passing engine gets broken as you enter the opponents final third (or they enter yours), thats when things get really weird.
How about if instead of tracking the run with koulibaly, you instead simply moved towards your own goal. Yes this would have opened up space between you and the striker, but he wouldn’t have gotten a clean through ball. I have to say I think I disagree here, yes there’s some assistance, but at the same time tracking player runs is very easy, with the “sprint” jockey, you can change direction very quickly. Through balls sucked on Fifa 20, they either got intercepted every time, or they’d run through to the keeper. Now they actually work and it’s still not good enough?
Theres a difference between "through balls work" and what we have now, that is, through balls being fabricated by the game whenever the initial trajectory is correctly tracked. Its disheartening to see such a take. In older titles the skill was tracking these runs, and as an attacker the skill was spotting these runs and feeding them before the defender could track it. Not to mention the game was quicker and so the attacker could create multiple of these moments in quick succession. You're just excusing situations that make the game redundant. It is what it is,
For me personally the passing actually isn’t a huge deal on this game. I think the “agile dribbling” is a far worse problem. It’s a stupidly unrealistic mechanic that gets spammed and abused and can often lead to fouls regardless of how well you timed the tackle. Also, far worse than anything else is the keepers. No one ever seems to talk about how painfully awful the keepers are. They need a huge rework from the ground up. I mean it’s shocking that they can’t even put an accurate pass in at the best of times. I’ve watched a few of your videos now and I have to agree with everything you talk about, however this honestly seems really nit picky to me. This situation doesn’t happen that often and like I said, a simple change in how you defend would easily overcome this, ie, sprinting back towards your own goal a few yards to open up the space and effectively reset the play.
4:25 I don't know about you all, but in a situation like that you shouldn't pass. Look at the space you have! I don't know if that would work out in FIFA, but in PES it really would. Koulibaly is drawn away from the centre so you have time and space to see what unfolds. Maybe the offensive AI would screw up with their runs on FIFA, but on PES this always creates some space.
Tbh on the first play you should've let your Koulibali down to cut the line of pass or to simply steal the ball while your other defender took care of the striker
I’m sorry; if you’ve played football, or watched high-level football, passes and runs are all about catching out the defence. Top-level footballers will fake one way and then run the other. Top-passers play the ball into space or blind-sides. I wouldn’t call it “game punishing” or “bad decision making”. IRL, standing 5 metres from a player isn’t how you intercept passes. In fact, players don’t intercept very often. It’s more about good team shape/organisation, shepherding players away from danger, and tackling when there’s an opportunity to
@@ab-jl5bz Every example that Stallion gave violated the principles I mentioned...it's a video game so it won't be perfect, but I think the principles I mentioned seem to be honoured by the clips he shared...no?
Cheers for everything guys. As usual, remember I'm not looking for suggestions on how to defend that scenario. While I appreciate it, that's not the point of the video. The point is that regardless of what you do, the game will alter the outcome of a pass to ensure it benefits the guy playing the pass. The point is to show that the community doesnt like this and pray EA sees that
its true man before the game was decent but its now fifa 20 all over again thnx for upload dude
Stallion great vid and good points raised. I agree with you in principle that bad decisions shouldn't be rewarded but I often encounter these exact scenarios playing offline h2h with my cousin and he does these type of passes so often I do believe it is intentional and within his control.
So in summary:
1) I do think player's direction input matters.
2) Assistance is a thing like you have pointed out but I think it's more likely to occur the higher rated passing stats the player has e.g KDB good luck intercepting.
3) You've pointed out instances where assistance results in amazing outcomes but there are times when assistance clearly screws you over not doing your intended pass at all, so I guess it does kinda balance out like that in a way.
@@chengetaimugabe3860 No, it doesn't actually balance out. If you watch his fifa 20 videos he explains it. Passing assistance is annoying because it's used to give advantage to the worse player(dda). Your opponent gets better assisted passes while you actually get worse passes like the "running to corner flag run" instead of passing normally and giving you a 1v1 with the keeper. Also it encourages drop back cause you need more players to cover up for the game messing up.
@@CoolGuy000000000001 fair comment but curious how does the game decide who is the better player? Online I guess there is your live win record but remember I play off-line and experience the same thing. I get far less "assisted" passes but I do get some and all time I think I'm smashing my cousin by a good 30 games in our H2H record.
@@chengetaimugabe3860 they can already detect your difficulty level if you play a single game against the AI. it isn't hard for them to figure out if you're on a winning streak or not. And again watch his fifa 20 passing videos where he shows normal easy passes that aren't working. The passes are fundamentally broken on purpose.
What's the point of tackling when most of the time my opponent just gets the ball back..... Passing is ridiculous its either shocking or it makes a miracle pass
Yeah its both absolute shit its more rewarding to not tackle and try and walk into the player with the ball since it bounces back less but if u don’t immediately get it away he auto tackles the ball back and the same happens. But when u make a perfect tackle he will get the ball 9/10
Times to try again also passing is so weird 2 bars power absolutely lasers the ball forward to my striker when i wanted a pass to the side on a player thats like 6-10 meters away and when u have 3-3.5 bars of power it only goed 2 meters like whats the point of it the power bar if it doesn’t matter anyway
Fr, tackling felt fine before patch, now tackles is pure bounce backs.
The game rewards the players who have no fucking game sense and think playing 30000 bad passes before eventually breaking down an already braindead defense is a "style of play", they don't realise how fucking stupid it is to play the way they do. I think EA pretty much realised that if they make the game cater to bad players then they all have a reason to keep playing cuz they don't get their ass whooped now and get spoonfed by the game. It's pathetic, you don't need to make an online video game a 'safe space' for people. That's the point of online gaming.
I feel like that with a through ball either too far too short or wrong damn person and I can't always be the blame👀 surely?🤣😅🤣
That's the point in FIFA it rewards bad players to even the skill gap out you have to almost not okay the game to be able to play the game. I.e if your good at tackling an win the ball back often the sliders will change your pass error will go up to even the game out an give your opponent a fair share of the ball.... It's pathetic really but true most top players do very little in terms of defending an let the AI do it for them. It's absolute bs if you just want to play the game properly
Love playing in League 2 where every midfielder seems to have the passing range of Pirlo 😂😂😂
This was the first FIFA game I've not bought since FIFA 2002. I should have done it sooner
Same but late is better than never
Same here
@@napicella glad to be a member of this club.
I also skipped this years game, fifa has to change fundamentally for some of us to come back I hope more people will realise whats going on
This is the first fifa i bought because of pro clubs... im so sory i did... game is shit in all aspects ...
This "avoid interception" passing started since 18, EA has deliberately started manipulating what happens on the pitch.
I've tested this avoid interception passing, directly aimed a pass to my opponent and the game redirects it at another angle over and over and over, interceptions don't come that easily, now I understand why I can never get the ball back until I concede a shot or the ball goes out of play. What is even the point of the game? Just let me play how I want to
@@eosobande That would mean as an average decent player you'd be able to use your full skill in the game and thus not necessarily requiring you to have a top team to beat players that do. EA doesn't want this because they want Fifa points to be sold.
I remember in the earlier years in ultimate team I could beat certain players who had a God squad with my gold team, that's a lot harder to do for me now, (at least when I use to play Fifa) with all the bs and scripting or whatever that happens in Fifa now, all for the sake of people buying FPs and opening packs to get a better team.
@@mathrockmaniac7643 Just use manual or semi-manual controls you idiots, it's really not that deep. It's your own fault if you use auto passing. Also maybe it's time to face the fact that you just got worse or didn't adapt to gameplay changes over the years, rather than creating a conspiracy where EA cheats you.
@@xMythpug calling everyone an idiot, do u look in to the mirror sometimes? Because your reply makes u look like an idiot.
@@grdkgameplays1496 I know the truth is harsh, I understand your frustration. It's nothing to be ashamed of that you are bad at the game. It's completely natural to look for excuses.
SPOT on. But EA will never listen. The will always have their AI defending, passing and DDA on max, so little Timmy can open more packs with moms credit card.
Stefan Bath preach
And the feeling when you tackle to opposition 4 times and he still has the ball also when you move your defender out of line to manually tackle..succeed but ball falls back to him.. This game punishes manual tackle again.
I think the worst is just watching your CDM just completely stop once someone gets passed 🤣😅
Mbappé
This fifa for me is without a doubt the worst when it comes to defending. I would definitely consider myself a casual player, but even so I have never out loud said so many times, "I read that pass". This game is the least rewarding when it comes to defending. And dont even get me started on second man press
Facts bro idk how many times i got mad cuz i read the opponent’s play and still couldn’t do sht , it stresses me out it’s like 90% of the time cuz i dont get mad when you score an amazing goal that I didn’t see coming but ohgod this fifa raises my blood pressure
This happens a lot, why I did to minimize these errors, I went on instructions of the players, and set it as 'intercept the ball'. You can also try the aggressive tackle instruction. But this game is full of bugs.. Sometimes it seems like the ball is connected to certain team. Everything happens so the goal can happen.
Thank you!!
There is a youtuber who explained what to do in defending but he is German
All the haters will be like “gET gOoD”
EA will never change it, they want to feel like your players are bad so you Fifa points to improve your team, it's been like that since Fifa 14 in my opinion and they progressively increased AI control on everything, the game decides what your players do, it's not about skills , it's about giving EA more money.
Correct, the game isn't truly free, even though people feel like they're in control they are not, at least not to the full extent they should be. The game feels like it's on wires at times like you have to force players to do the things you want them to do and sometimes they even don't.
The better players are the ones who can exploit the game's flaws, knows how to counter someone using the game's flaws against them and know how to play when the game is going against them. Not saying they are only good because of that reason, but the average player who is decent at the game and just wants to play the game without having to deal with the games flaws and exploits will be at a disadvantage because the game is poorly made.
@@mathrockmaniac7643 Thats why we today have these pros. More competetive oriented game with manipulative gameplay makes it such a toxic game. Only solution is P2P option. Even that doesnt solve everything, but I played 100 games p2p in FUT seasons i fifa 19. Swear I lost max 5-10 max. Such clean gameplauy, damn.
Passing is so weird. It feels very inconsistent and just unreliable
And dogshit players always get rewarded whereas the one’s who reads play well and intends to execute ANYTHING, the game totally alters it
Ehh passing is weird, I don’t think it’s bad but at times the pass can go make some weird bail out curve to a direction where it’s impossible to take away where he never directed it with joystick to.
I think the problems in this game is defending is a bit too easy and bounce backs off defenders are unreal. Defending is only easy cuz attackers are very limited to how you build up a attack. Most build up attacks now are counter attack with low depth and holding the ball in the middle of the pitch for 10 minutes to wait for ppl to bite. The holding the ball makes the game boring.
The fun fifa was when defenders had to bite 70% of the time to stop a attack build up and a goal.Nowadays you don’t need to bite cuz you can stay back with low depth with Varane and Van Dijk and sit there and jockey like a mad man left and right and win the ball. These stuff causes ppl to play possesion pass all day and wait for someone to bite to get a goal now. 21 is evolving to Fifa 20
Goat FACTS BRO I SEE LITERALLY EVERYONE PLAY LOW DEBT AND EVEN WITH SKILLS YOU CANT GET PASSED THE JOCKEY DEFENSE ITS JUST COUNTERS AND WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO BITE 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Ben Yedder's turn at that speed is physically imposible. Since I started playing Fifa I realized this game was far from what real football is. Also Stallion, the way the ball moves, fast at the beginning, then magically reducing speed, it is very unrealistic.
Its not that its not realistic, its mechanics programmed to benefit the opponent in terms of scripting. The way the ball moves in terms of speed and where it goes is really scripted.
Both of you are sooo right
The worst part is that in football, If the runner goes up but the pass down, the runner and the passer usually look at each other like "damn son, we weren't on the same wavelength this time". In FIFA, the game doesnt consider that and just rewards dumb things
@@StallionSama We're playing Telepathy 21 :(
@@StallionSama this right here! That’s it. How tf is the passer and the receiver on the same page with passes like that. It makes no sense. Ea needs to figure this out
This game is tripe possession hoarders around your box are inevitably rewarded when you make a challenge that bounces straight back to them, 90% of the time a skill move abuser is rewarded when you clearly read his intentions but the game allows him to ghost through or auto lunges your defender & well as for the clear rig EA can determine you or your opponent has during a match is there for all to see.
Finally someone else figured this out I’ve been telling my friends this since fifa 17 , it’s like an algorithm the game is not doing what you command, it’s doing what it’s think you wanna do..., example I’m making a through pass to my player, the ball doesn’t go the direction I’m aiming it just make a random through ball in a random open space and your player locks on, it doesn’t matter what direction he was running in and how he was positioned the game is build on algorithm and weird players animations almost everything looks great until the replay
Bro those replays are horrible, you think you scored a nice goal until you watch the replay and see these weirdest unnatural animations where the player is skipping frames and warping towards the ball
@@eosobande or the ball goin through his own legs before he shoots lol
Lol it’s the passing assistance I guess lol. I guess it kinda works at times but does not work at all
@@eosobande bro i check back on replays after losing the ball to see what really happened only to see my player stop sprinting for a second to give the AI chance to get around and win the ball it looks as if we are in full control of the game , but we are not, we are only in charge of a small percentage of what happens, players literally give up the ball and perform an animation as if the were hassled off it, sometimes the animations are performed too early
@@AaronsWorld0007 thank you, that horrendous animation they make when they get tackled baffles me, and even most times it looks as if they refuse to recover until the opponent finally gets away with the ball, sometimes they literally dive when tackled, there's this 3 second window they just refuse to do anything after getting tackled.
And dont get me started on their absolute stupidity when there's a loose ball, they just can't be bothered with recovering a loose ball. This game is a fraud
EA will never make a game that punishes bad decisions because they will lose MILLIONS in FUT profits.
Tackling, closing passing lanes, marking runs, interceptions, passing, basic skill moves (ball roll)
All skilled aspects of the game are broken.
Sprinting, changing direction, shooting, AI blocks, basic controls every fifa player can do, all OP.
As someone who played football professionally, your videos are always on point. This issue is so bad, even under 8 children at the football academy play batter than fifa ai
passing needs a complete rework.
and i believe that this level of assistance that everyone is using needs to go. semi, or even less, should be the maximum assistance. we need more skill in shooting and passing, and i think semi is more than enough for everyone - especially for casuals to have fun.
i agree about everything you said here also.
the moment where assistance is calculated, and the way it is calculated should be changed. it should be calculated when the pass button was pressed, and not 2 seconds after that when the player is actually passing the ball which makes the direction chosen by the player completely irrelevant because the game calculates it much after that when the situation on the pitch changed (everyone moved etc).
making an insane pass has to be one of the things we can admire in someone's game, we don't have that atm and it's horrible, it's the actual fundamental of the game, not chaining 12 elasticos.
you're also definitely right that EA doesn't like punishing bad decisions. it's pretty obvious from the way sliders are in favor of a team that's trying to pass from their own box. it's almost impossible to punish a horrible decision there, even if you magically end up intercepting a pass, the game will often trigger some horrible animation for the player who's intercepting, that we've barely seen before, doing everything it can to save the guy making the mistake at his back line.
this game is designed to be played on manual settings. everything above manual is for children.
@@norrsken17 I've been having so much fun playing on manual, it's incredible
@@LOONAbd any chance you're playing on pc?
@@norrsken17 yes and only against friends (they on manual too) or career mode, ut just made me want to throw my controller to the wall, I swear I haven't felt like that in years but 3 days of ut killed me inside (last ut I played was 17 and it wasn't this frustrating)
@@LOONAbd same here. fut is like gambling. if you're interested in playing some online friendlies please consider adding me as a friend. my origin id: norrsken_bp
Every mechanic in this game is designed to make the game more profitable
That's why I switched to PES, no matter how broken/bad PES gameplay it still respects basic Football fundamentals while FIFA pissed over it.
Also I'm still mind blown that FIFA lacks a feature that PES has which is the "Manual Button" where you hold LB/L1 (LT/L2 if you're playing FIFA controls) where the commands (Passing, Shooting and whatever becomes fully manual), check out KnightMD's video about Manual Passing in PES and i've tried full manual gameplay in PES it's hard but once you master it becomes something out of this world.
Pes isn’t good in my opinion I like the concept of a fun arcade game with realistic features the problem is with fifa is the game doesn’t do what you want which causes rage then there is broken mechanics that gets abused that’s not a fair game I’ve found that at the start of each fifa there is a two week window b4 the first patch where the game is purely based on skill.
Agree with you 100% I left Pes to FIFA and I've come back again the only problem with Pes I'm sat here with a great team an nothing to do I can do a ranked match and that's about it, both games are heavily scripted, but generally the passing is far less broken in Pes. Both games ruined by mixro transactions that's all they are bothered about anymore
@@danbarnett9570 Yeah scripting is a thing in PES, at least Konami are generous with their Microtrans
@Owen Flibbert If you played PES in the "FIFA way" of course it won't be fun, it's your opinion
@Owen Flibbert It's terrible because you suck at it & didn't bother learning it because you were lazy. Trust me, i did it a few times too along with some friends.
If you try playing PES "the fifa way" then of course it won't be fun because you ain't gonna win jackshit. After 11 years on fifa, I switched to PES 2021 this year & i couldn't be happier. Plus, Konami themselves said this year it was more of an update & heavily discounted it. EA has been selling you a squad update at full price for last 4 fookin years.
I found the solution to this is to grab a CB and sprint backwards like crazy, dont track the run or the player, just sprint backwards. Even the SB AI does it
This is the solution
Yup that’s how I play cb in pro clubs it’ll just lock me on to the through ball
@@Oscar-qk6zh play for my team?👀
True, and Thats why everyone is back to parking the bus plays
This one! This one! This one! I even have clips for this. The squad battle AI knows it can't beat the script as well so one CB usually runs back off screen when you win back the ball, you think you're through on goal but nooo, you're either met with that CB who had ran back to not get caught out with this weird passing animation or he steps up and can now intercept the through ball on the changed direction. IT IS THE SOLUTION
Very good video and I agree with you partly. However in my opinion the biggest problem with Fifa is not the fact that passing is rigged or shooting doesn‘t work, or the deffense is bs... all of these are just symptoms of what‘s increasingly becoming a trend in most sport games/ competitive games, namely the randomization of outcome. Every year competitive games become less reliant on skill and depend more and more on chance.
Games are competing for your attention against social media, netflix, tv, your friends etc. Guess what psychological pattern creates the greatest dependency on people and is systematically implemented by most modern tech companies to gain your precious attention time: random reinforcement. How do you make sure that random reinforcement happens in a videogame where the player (apparently) has the control? You just randomize the outcome of their actions (and then you let your PR guy tell in front of the camera that you are just making the game more lifelike).
Regarding this specific example that you describe in your video I am sorry but it is not that passing in Fifa rewards bad decissions. The problem is that passing is not consistent throughout all matches and all situations. If it consistently rewarded bad decissions you would be able to come up with a strategy to counter the mechanic. But, just like any other mechanic in the game, it is random. Sometimes the ball will go where you intended, sometimes the ai will help you, sometimes you will get EA‘d. Everything with the goal of having you say after every insane game: „just one more game, this time I won’t make the same mistakes“.
And this leads to the actual problem, which is exactly what you mentiond in one part of your video: what you do has very little influence in the game.
When people say that competitive games nowadays are like casinos they don’t just mean the shameless business model of microtransactions tiered for kids, but the whole way the game has been conceived. The sad reality is that where our grandads pulled the levers of slot machines looking for that jackpot, we press the X button of our ps-controller hoping that a virtual ball will take the path we intended.
This is a deeper truth. I agree, unfortunately hard to see for the majority.
I think everything should be on manual..even shooting. That's when you'll see massive skill gaps between players. Over time as everyone adapts, the quality of gameplay would rise...creating more realistic gameplay
These 8 goal games every match dont happen in real life,ultra rare..if they remove assisted we wont see it in fifa either
exactly. in seasons, you can't find manual players above div 6. on the rare occasions someone matching me on manual by accident, as soon as they realize it's on manual they are gone... ridiculous. okay, it's a free 3-0 for me, but c'mon.
The passing, the ball physics & tackling are all shocking for me
Been quite a few years since Fifa ever came close to being a decent game, let alone a decent sports game. I'd stay away from the series altogether from now on.
fifa is the best ever but fifa 2021 is a big error.
I’ve been playing fifa since 99.
With all this nonsense, the game will ultimately push good players away...
wtf fifa started in 2009 befor that u were playing the worng game
@@rox282 how old are u man, like 7 or what
While having a opponent counter attacking, I've noticed some of my defenders freeze or slow down. Like the AI of this games wants you to conceed either way. FIFA 21 is trash. Bring the fun back and this shit
@@fonsecascp i think PES was better than Fifa in the early stages. Could be wrong. Both were much better than now
I have every fifa from 2003 to 2020. Not buying 21, I'm fed up with all these broken games. Wish that there were a good fun competitor....
Was PES but you all noobs who cant win at PES start buy fifa who offer you shot and pass assist on controll and also other noobs features who make all noobs look pro player on a game who sucks..
@@glsmokerUSCOOLHIPHOPCHANNELGMG PES is worse than FIFA. These guys move like they all shit they pants. Also the defending in pes is as bad as fifa. I think I'll be staying away from both games this year. I however will not be buying a PES game anytime soon as these guys have no clue on how to properly make a football game
@@youngmicrowave127
- Have you tried Super Cancel?
-Any ideas of what Manual Control is?
And if you play PES the same way you play FIFA, of course it'll look even worse...
Fifas ball physics feels like that plastic wind balls you buy your baby as his/her first ball.
Great analysis once again.
Can you also start analysing PES as well?
Not saying it's better overall but I do feel some gameplay aspects are a bit better.
Class video man. Im feeling im playing against the servers and the mechanics of my opponent, not the player. I miss fifa 13. Gameplay wise and funwise (gameplay wise in terms of p2p and never having ridicolous button delay). Every player was so responsive, now you just have to pray that your opponent doesnt have crazy advantage over you in terms of button delay, because then ur Mbappe and Neymar play like 39 rated bronzes, which doesnt even exist. I cant understand the dedicated servers in a 1va1 game. In PES you can choose between dedicated servers and P2P. That should be the case here as well.
Thx man, yeah the servers are just awful
Bro fifa 13 was my first fifa, and I keep telling people 13 is the gold standard, everything just worked, I never found myself complaining about the game mechanics.
Nothing like kick off goals,
Player switching worked ,
Passing worked,
Defending worked,
Attacking ai worked,
Tackles worked,
Keepers worked,
Left stick movement and left stick dribbling were so responsive that I never felt a need to learn skill moves
The only issues were momentum and pace abuse, apart from that, the game was great.
At this point I'll willingly take a fifa 13 remaster
@@eosobande Thats true m8. I guess I was one of the rats abusins with wellington and Di Natale, but you know most players were usable at that time. And sooooo responsive, and I know everyone had it that way. P2P solves that with ping measurement. I miss playing, always played 1500-2000 games every fifa until fifa 17. Dedicated came and yeah basically everything turned around. They have to implement and P2P option in FUT for us to actually be able and to enjoy the game.
I dont freaning know why there isnt a bigger movement towards this..
with the new camera settings i cant understand how a person can see this as realistic. it feels scripted even when you just pass, and players are now more than ever, literally like robots
They desperately need to uncomplicate the passing system and controls. A regular ground pass should be aimed directly at the receiver, under no circumstances should it be a type of pass that magically has its trajectory altered to have it avoid potential interception. A through ball should always be played ahead of the receiver based on their movement at the time the pass is being charged up. What we have now is so incredibly inconsistent that it damages both offensive and defensive play.
It's crazy how in some instances, particularly around the box, a ground pass turns into a through ball
Yeah, the amount of times a regular ground pass triggers a Striker or Wide CAM to perfectly move through into a scoring position, and have the pass perfectly find them is amazing. Whereas the through ball becomes a "pass to goalkeeper" button almost anywhere in the final third.
Everything in this game feels like it's on wires, the game doesn't feel truly free, especially when the ball is designated to fall/go to a player most of the time. That coupled with all the other problems is why I decided to stop playing Fifa for good after skipping multiple titles. Fifa 20 is the last.
I wonder if Stallion isn't tired of making these vids every year lol smh.
Most fifa streamers only play because they earn money from it, not because they enjoy it. And they can't go to another game because nobody will watch your stream if you're not good at the game. Except if you're a woman ;)
That's why Stallion needs the most support out of most FIFA content creators cuz what he does actually takes a lot of mental strength and durability to keep doing, I can't even imagine it because me as a player will play maybe 100-200 games every year (since the game went to shit in 18) and stop there permanently, but he has to keep resetting every week and giving it a go again and make good content on top of that. And it's clear he does it for the sake of the improvement of the game too. Stallion is goated
@@yegfuf Yeah I know, but damn it's sad man. I remember playing Fifa 20 and some of the crap that happened was insane. It just built up until one final game where my opponent scored a bs goal from a ridiculously impossible angle near post, where my defenders and keeper was covering. I immediately uninstalled the game.
If you're past the half line, its a confirmed goal lmao
Until they make passing more manual, as in if I power the pass with 2 bars, it will be two bar pass. Not what the game desires. This is what makes interceptions impossible. You just don’t know when the aim assistance will kick in. It’s the reason why noobs sit back and play drop back and hold x to contain.
If you run the beast catches you, if you stay the beast eats you
I did not buy 2020 and played it only once as I don't consider it a football game. I tried 21 last night and saw that it was sooo much different from 19. I was disgusted at how powerful dribbling and passing was. And also the fact you can just turn and get rid of your marker so easily is just a mind fuck. I'm also skipping this trash
Thanks, i should also say that midfielders almost never return to help, they just watch your demise.
It’s when dembele constantly out muscles my Manolas that makes me wanna throw the game out
when I win the ball back in squad battlles, the AI's CB is all of a sudden chilling next to the keeper waiting to destroy my striker.
For EA is easy to ignore a few people complaining about the auto pass correction, than a bunch of casual players winning that they cannot pass the ball straight because of the pass "inconsistency" (but in fact is their own fault due to bad decisions in game).
This guy should be more popular! Amazing job!
The player who was passing with rashford was in my opinion trying to lay it off for pogba but the game made him pass to ben yedder
The only way I feel things will change is if people boycott the next fifa and hit EA where it hurts the most, their pockets.
True but sadly it won't happen
I get your point about passing being unbalanced, its very prevalent when the opponent uses team press, a situation where passing and composure stats of the player, along with body orientation and distance to receiver should play the deciding role, the passes go absolutely straight to the opponent from the feet of De Bruynes and Messis. Through balls are a different thing though, and is very punishment based, which is fair IMO but could do with more error percentage when hitting them too hard.
Maybe something to consider when adjusting your play style to the meta.
THIS IS FACTS. I have so many examples from the last Fifa and so far this one as well. They "correct" bad passes to assist bad decisions to bridge the skill gap. So sickening doesn't matter really what you do. One time I saw a redirection of the ball and I am happy to send the video to anyone.
How many of you use controller assist on the pass or play MANUAL? ANSWER TO THIS FIRST
If you play Squad Battles on Legendary or Ultimate , you can see the best examples of both what the meta of the game is and also the “adjusting” of passes. The AI is reactive to your every move , it plays reacting to your movements , you go left , it goes right , give space , it sprints , close the distance , it shields. Then , almost every pass the AI mades it’s perfectly placed into space or to the player intended and away from the opponent, no matter if it’s a bronze gk playing as a midfielder. The game is not based on players , stats and skill but on decisions made by the game itself that override everything else. I’m not talking out one of the game (win -lose) but decisions of every play.
I really appreciate this video. As a person that has played both pes and fifa, my biggest gripe is just how bad defense is. Most teams in real life lose possession through interceptions along with cutting out short passes through team pressing. In fifa the passing is so assisted that it feels mindless.
I think fifa 16 had fifa playing the best it's ever played. If fifa is going to be a competitive game it has to respect the defense just as much as the offense. The balance of the game has been bad for a while.
The casuals will play regardless if u make defense better or not. Either learn how to play defense or get smashed
Before FIFA 21 I considered myself a decent player as I could even beat the legendary AI 7-8 times out of 10 games. I stayed in division 1 in online season till FIFA 20, now division 5-6 players beats me.
In every match my scoreline is usually
4-5, 5-6, 4-6 even 7-8
This is ridiculous
EA sports must be ashamed
Spot on as usual,
The passing in this game drives me insane!
Passing, positioning, defending, dribbling, the worse part os we can all se the potential. But they choose year after year to f*ck us over. This should never be a competitive game.
Everyone else to their gf/bf -- Imma slide it in, my love.
Stallion to his gf/bf -- Passing mechanicsssss
I used to play fifa on full manual until i stopped after they introduced first touch error. The iteration after that just went worst for me so i stopped buying fifa. There is nothing wrong with that feature but i feel like year by year they add features to make the game "feel challenging" that punish those playing on full manual (this include harder and more tactical defending feature). I just can't go back to assisted passing because i hated so much that the ball is not going to where i intended (even when the assists improve my chance). The change that fifa need in order to improve gameplay challenge is just to reduce the assisted passing. Or make the player direction change more realistic. How a player can instantly change direction they're running based on the ball coming from their back is ridiculous. Also the ball physics looks weird with assisted passing.
Now playing and enjoying full time on pes.
Another amazing video exposing the actual state of "the best Fifa ever" - whoever said this about Fifa 21 probably has never watched an actual football match...
At this point I cannot understand how FUT is still considered a competitive game: match results are altered by 2324234 external factors (starting from the AI) and a vast majority of pro players are just exploiting game mechanics, systematically. If I was an E-Sports investor I would never spend a dime on such a fraud.
Totally agree! Another thing that would be interesting to be covered are penalties. Did you ever notice how keepers dive almost touching the top corners? Its like sooooo unrealistic that always makes me laugh and think that I am playing some kind of super hero game... EA coders/engineers need to start to watch real football... (and not call it soccer)
About defending just press b in the xbox to block or push and pull the player 👍
Yup, EA dont want to give full control to the players. This would increase skill gap and that would be bad for casuals and EAs income.
Stallion, do you think that player's stats, like vision, passing, have some influence when it comes to pass auto correction?
Without a doubt they do
Video fantastico, esattamente quello che penso dei passaggi su fifa, riassunto in un unico video spiegato alla grande!
Grazie
The same thing will happen for example in squad battles where the system reads your intentions and do exactly the opposite... The AI player will dribble towards you and keep stopping because you’re already registering tackles on your controller, so if you’re going right it will go left so completely missed it...On a rival or WL match things like these also happens where the AI favours the less skilful players...You can see that your opponent is not a good player but there’s nothing you can do...
With the second example the main problem is that players dont intercept those passes, you can read the whole play perfectly but the ball will slide right near your player when you are in the passing lane
In real life that pass to Ben Yedder with positioning of De Jong wouldnt make it through
The through ball down the middle is way overpowered
When you lose in fut champs and get so mad you become a scientist 😂😂
In the first example you tried tracking the run with koulibaly but you should’ve ran back with the other center back, keeping your team’s shape intact. Very simple
I have noticed one thing in fifa, the skills in this game are nice, so is new goalkeeper movement which helps me against less aware players, but one thing that has always annoyed me is defending, the fake shot across the corner flag is too OP, the left stick dribbling is outrageously OP. If the attacking team is left stick dribbling with agile players, your done, the ball is literally stuck on their feet, this mechanism needs to be implemented on defending aswell, I think I'm quite the fifa player and will adapt to anybody's play but defending is killing this game.
Talk about AI defending with good defenders you can pull out a centre's back leave a gap and not track the run and still get an interception
Turn the fifa trainer on. Where u aim and how much power u put into it creates an arrow that chooses the closest player. The rest is the passers passing stats (vision and etc). I get how that's frustrating but it's a video game.
Gave up.. First FIFA i had was 01, Had every one until the last FIFA i bought in 2018. Feels good to not be robbed, constantly furious and currently going through controllers at a fractional rate. FEELS GOOD
Your correct in this video! The only thing I could say with the first instance something Fifa analyst said and could have work was instead of using Kolabaily to mark the upward run he was going is to your other CB space so he should have track it instead. I know it farfetched but I believe that's the logic EA working with
The more I watch your FIFA 21 videos, the more they remind me of old PES 5 or 6 gameplay... Ouch !
In the first example lcb should have been selected as you were expecting a pass upwards. Instead of selecting the rcb and making a huge gap at the back. However I totally agree with your point!
3:09 if you had run backwards vertically you could have defended, obviously the game slightly helps you sometimes but there is always something you can do, the only reason that pass went through is because you ran vertically, you yourself draw your intended movement and that's just not where you should run to.
The worst thing about FIFA 21 gameplay is for me, that containing a player while not tackling is not possible, and the defensive Midfielders who just start jogging when overplayed. They don't run back and cover spaces, help out the defense. Once the ball is behind them they just jog a little if you're not playing them actively, often forcing you to use a centerback and leave the defending line, which is an invite for the easiest 1-2. The moment you have to use a centerback actively most of the time you can just pray that it works out, it doesn't feel like you're in control of how your team defends.
In order to make a pass like the first example you showed in fifa 15 you would literally have to aim it a little off of the person you want to receive it and then when the game switched to that player you would have to run towards it, but now it just happens automatically and it feels shitty when someone gets a pass like this off because you know thats not what they were aiming for, even on semi the game holds your hand so much so you get the same passing angles over and over and over its ridiculous
The pther problem related to this is the fact that the striker changes direction and lock on to the ball instantly while the deffender’s movement stutter before starting to run
I'm truly agree with everything you say. I play full manual and I can't bear theese situations anymore. There's nothing I can do to intercept the passages from my opponent. Every shot is directed to the goal, and this is absolutely not real and annoying. 95% of Fifa gamers play this way, unfortunately there's nothing we can do. I really hope Fifa developers watch your videos, but I suppose they would never change anything the same. Keep fighting for a better, more real game.
Switch everything to Manuel and you’ll have a better experience. My aim and passing is not assisted and once you get used to being Manuel you’ll kill anyone using assisted. Your first example he might of used the Manuel pass.
One more example for manipulating the game is, when the defender touched the ball but the ball is invincible so the attacker is "winning", or in other words: the defender is losing the fight because the game want it!
SO glad im not wasting another year of my life playing this crap
I'm quitting after FIFA 21, it's just a waste of time and energy. The game is not even fun most of the time.
You guys know that if you time the seal out button with the tackle button you won’t lose against fast strikers running by your defenders
The worst is when you’re through on goal players will hackle you down = no cards
This is your most important video yet and I hope the right people see this and take some action from it. That all we can hope for or this game is finished
No you can make the change stop thinking EA gives a fuck about a few thousand people not buying there game they are a billion dollar company. The only way is 98% of the community gets together and not buy this game for just one year and you will see changes
this is exactly the biggest problem of this game, to me even more than tackling and rebounds, because as you said, you do something right, they do something wrong, but somehow they get rewarded and not you. and even if its me to be wrong and get the pass its not fun, im not learning to be better and create spaces
Exactly. No matter what you do you cant stop it. Even if you guess the final outcome, we all know the game will direct a pass to wherever you aren't standing
The biggest issue with the game is how much the AI dictates the game and in terms of defending you are punished for manually trying to win the ball.
You didn't mention it was a threaded through ball on the first example. But I definitely agree they have reduced the skill gap for sure.
still bothers me how its easier to make pinpoint cross-field bicycle kick-crosses than control the ball and make a 5 yard pass. The gameplay has been dictated by delay, deflections, and shit ai since fifa 17, also the game has felt like pinball since 19.
In Fifa the Pass receiver gets eyes behind his back telepathy to read the passer mind and 100 reaction and acceleration for few seconds where the defender gets 2 eyes 1 reaction and 1 acceleration and 0 brain cells to do anything to it
How can you say that there is nothing you can do when you don’t run your defender back. In a real game if you are moving forward and the attacker is running in behind he can easily change direction and move into the space you have created. The defender should always run backwards to ensure that they can cover all of the space. It’s your fault not the games.
I ran backwards and up and matched the exact run my opponent made. I didnt run towards the ball holder. no idea what you're watching
@@StallionSama I’m watching your gameplay mate, I understand that the through ball was heavily assisted but in my opinion it’s a football game and instead of it being realistic you need to understand the mechanics.
On the first play, you can see your player move slightly forward which significantly reduces the chance of recovery when the ball is played in behind. I’m an elite 3 player so not claiming to be insane but even I can see that it was possible to defend
There are much bigger issues in this game like 1st touches and left stick dribbling is complete shit.
@@StallionSama in my opinion this comment section is full of people who just want to complain about a game in its very early stages because they are not good enough. I’ve rarely lost to bullshit and it’s usually always something I have done wrong.
@@barrykimber7692 Agree Barry, needs to adjust his strategy, just run towards goal here, he was too tight to defender allowing this situation to arise.
In the first example, if you tracked the runner with the other cb and left koulibaly in the space that he was he wouldn't of been able to make the pass, even if he did you other cb would of been on him so u could won the tackle, ur rb could of covered for the other cb, or last resort if that didn't work you could of just taken him out slide tackle bang you'll recieve a red card but fuck it sometimes you gotta take 1 for the team.
Finally someone who speaks for us. This game is a manipulated, assisted and unrealistic football game. How can this be an Esports game??
Thanks Stallion, you've totally spoken out what I was frustrated for. So painful to see all these nonsense/glitches as it is what I've been abused by.
I do love football and that's why I still buy this game, but sadly as if I was being kidnapped at the same time by EA
Wowww thanks for being honest 😔
Sometimes I think all CZcamsrs have been brainwashed or are being paid by EA because I don't feel the same way they feel about the game
I regret buying FIFA 21
(This is the first FIFA I've actually bought with my money)
Intelligent auto correction is for passing and vision stats. Or nobody would boost passing stats anymore.
Turn off assist pass maybe. The assist feature are made to help players with minimal effort. Sometimes it make the pass even worse. As a real life amateur league footballer who play LW, CF, LM, and CAM a lot,feint run is a real thing where the striker influent a slower but stronger defender to make a run on the wrong decision to allow him receive the pass and making even bigger gap. In other method, change player. Don't just stick to the same player. I always change player to get the best result. In the first clip with yellow opponent, that is a legit pass. Very normal irl. And why would you drag the right CB to the left when he was running to the left your left side of the pitch. Koulibaly need to just stand his ground and cover his area. Leave it to the other CB because the attacker was running toward the other CB area. That is the point of through pass. Get it? THROUGH PASS. Passing directly to him would cause him to run over to Koulibaly's partner in CB. You ever see how Van Dijk mark player irl? I would usually agree on people's arguments on how bad defending in FIFA since there never was really a gameplay overhaul for defending. Most are attacking. The gameplay changes mainly to improve attacking from generic football style, to footsal/futsal style, which kinda ruin the realism and proving hard time for defending. But this is seriously a dumb point you're trying to come up with. You're trying to argue a real life technique here.
My health started improving, When I started spending less time in fifa ever since!!
To be very honest, i really think you are right about passes being bad, but if your point is to make fifa more like real football, then those through passes should kinda stay the same, cuz in real life you dont always and only pass in the direction your teammate is running, cuz there may be a better way to pass like they do in fifa
i totally agree, the passing is not intuitive... you make a pass and the game tries to be clever for you and does something completely different from your intention and u end up losing your chance because you weren't prepared for the game's brialliant pirlo-esque passing engine mechanics that does ramdom things. Most of the time, the passing engine gets broken as you enter the opponents final third (or they enter yours), thats when things get really weird.
How about if instead of tracking the run with koulibaly, you instead simply moved towards your own goal. Yes this would have opened up space between you and the striker, but he wouldn’t have gotten a clean through ball. I have to say I think I disagree here, yes there’s some assistance, but at the same time tracking player runs is very easy, with the “sprint” jockey, you can change direction very quickly. Through balls sucked on Fifa 20, they either got intercepted every time, or they’d run through to the keeper. Now they actually work and it’s still not good enough?
Theres a difference between "through balls work" and what we have now, that is, through balls being fabricated by the game whenever the initial trajectory is correctly tracked. Its disheartening to see such a take. In older titles the skill was tracking these runs, and as an attacker the skill was spotting these runs and feeding them before the defender could track it. Not to mention the game was quicker and so the attacker could create multiple of these moments in quick succession. You're just excusing situations that make the game redundant. It is what it is,
For me personally the passing actually isn’t a huge deal on this game. I think the “agile dribbling” is a far worse problem. It’s a stupidly unrealistic mechanic that gets spammed and abused and can often lead to fouls regardless of how well you timed the tackle. Also, far worse than anything else is the keepers. No one ever seems to talk about how painfully awful the keepers are. They need a huge rework from the ground up. I mean it’s shocking that they can’t even put an accurate pass in at the best of times. I’ve watched a few of your videos now and I have to agree with everything you talk about, however this honestly seems really nit picky to me. This situation doesn’t happen that often and like I said, a simple change in how you defend would easily overcome this, ie, sprinting back towards your own goal a few yards to open up the space and effectively reset the play.
@@FuriousDave well this video is specifically about passing. Either way couldn't disagree with you more
4:25 I don't know about you all, but in a situation like that you shouldn't pass. Look at the space you have! I don't know if that would work out in FIFA, but in PES it really would. Koulibaly is drawn away from the centre so you have time and space to see what unfolds. Maybe the offensive AI would screw up with their runs on FIFA, but on PES this always creates some space.
Tbh on the first play you should've let your Koulibali down to cut the line of pass or to simply steal the ball while your other defender took care of the striker
One thing tho. EA doesn’t really care about our input
I’m sorry; if you’ve played football, or watched high-level football, passes and runs are all about catching out the defence. Top-level footballers will fake one way and then run the other. Top-passers play the ball into space or blind-sides. I wouldn’t call it “game punishing” or “bad decision making”. IRL, standing 5 metres from a player isn’t how you intercept passes. In fact, players don’t intercept very often. It’s more about good team shape/organisation, shepherding players away from danger, and tackling when there’s an opportunity to
No one was talking about that in fifa they.just run weird
@@ab-jl5bz Every example that Stallion gave violated the principles I mentioned...it's a video game so it won't be perfect, but I think the principles I mentioned seem to be honoured by the clips he shared...no?