The Child Of The Crystal Labyrinth - 40K Theories
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- Tzeentch's maze is said to be impossible to solve, yet a little girl accomplished this feat. Just who is this child?
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It is Dorothy and her little dog, Toto.
She went there with a Man of Iron and the Cowardly Lion El Jonson
Nonsense the scarecrow is an Ork runtherder
Her dog, Toto, now blesses the rains down in Africa.
40K Theories,
The fact that the girl and small black dog are almost certainly meant to be Dorothy and Toto, means it had to be the Emperor. By M41, the story "The Wizard of OZ" would be about 38,000 years old and the ONLY person who could remember that story is the Emperor.
Covah Redro you have scared Corvus the Tin Manus and the cowardly lion-el
The maze represents the complex plans, plots and deceptions of living things.
Children don't have that.
Children are simple and straight forward. To the child the maze may well appear as a straight path.
A child's soul, lost in the warp through sudden death in warp transit, stumbling across the entrance to a beautiful labyrinth would enter due to curiosity.
That or it is a minor God OF curiosity, as curiosity will eventually find its way through.
I think I love this concept most. The pure innocence and matter of fact nature of children, and their ability to soak up the world around them while not demanding it to adhere to any preconceived notions of reality may be precisely what allowed such a small child to wander through the maze unmolested.
Such innocence does not exist in Warhammer.
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 all children are inherently innocent. Also a common misconception, in that innoncence does infact exist in warhammer however it is not oft to last long or will be ripped away violently as the grim dark genre demands
@@swe123swe all children are not inherently innocent.
@@ToBeSchooled Strongly disagree.
Girl Scouts always find a way to sell you their damn cookies.
Tzeentch "Damn it, how do they keep finding me? I'm on a diet!"
Merritt Animation we know that's why we are here now I made it through the maze buy my cookies
Guess even Tzeench's machinations can't stop the girl scout cookie saleskid
Hey, ah , yeah. Lemme get some of those, um, Thin mints?
"She cheated"
"How"
"She distracted me with delicious cookies!"
It's funny to imagine that the Emperor did that with all the Chaos Gods. Defeating Khorne's bloodthisters in the shape of a skinny man, mocking his view of brute force. Resisting Nurgle's deseases in the shape of a old man, mocking him with a mortal that should perish. Passing by Slaanesh with the shape of a young maiden, mocking her excess with something pure.
And mocking Tzeench with a child to mock the expectations of intellect
Did any of that actually happen?
@@WatchesYouAtNight no its a fictional universe
@@Matt77125 he ha he
Passing in Slaanesh's realm in the guise of a 𝐬𝐢𝐦𝐩
A young girl, with a black dog, solves nonsensical puzzles to meet a crazy wizard in a crystal palace? It was St Dorothy of Kansas, the patron of Witch-Hunters, strangely without her retinue of a Felinid Warrior, Necron Servitor and straw-golem
I like to think it was just a little girl and her dog, no psychic powers, no help from another chaos god, just a brave little girl who's childlike intellect was able to find ways around Tzeentch's maze instead of thru it.
I honestly kinda like the idea of a psyker child stumbling into a realm she barely understands and solving Tzeentch's maze and riddles through luck, cleverness and cheating.
No shes Ai from distant futurr
I love how many theories end with: "Emprah done it."
Its a thing with how powerful Big E is.
The Big E does like messing with stuff. "Just. As. Planned."
For him, it was Tuesday.
And tzench let the big e obtain the the knowledge for making the primach and engineered the horus heresy
Just as planned
>Disguise as a Child ( Putting a Mask on )
>Cheating ( Fooling/Plaing a Trick )
>Having the advanced Knowlage to Navigate threw other Realms ( like Webway )
>Interested in Adding Knowlage ( to his own library )
This all Screams that it was the laughing God of the Eldar Cegorach
Liz rov i thought the same, this reaks of chegorach shenanigans
No, it obviously would take someone of great tactical abil- CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
No, it's the daedric prince of trickery, Sheogorath.
@@Emajenus WABBAJACK
The girl "cheated" to get to Tzeench? But what is "cheating", really?
Aravaganthus An interesting question
Posed a riddle the guardian could not answer perhaps? Or have an answer that was somehow true and not the answer the guardian wanted?
Tzeentch:” *AN INTERESTING QUESTION @SSHOLE!* “
Xaran Alamas "What do you mean? An African or European swallow?"
Or maybe the Guardian was just annoyed to be defeated by a little dog and his pet human.
The Emperor trolling Tzeentch as a little girl is priceless.
*_INSERT JOKE ABOUT THE GIRL BEING ALPHARIUS IN DISGUISE_*
That fuckin profile pic hahahaha
Careful O, or you'll break your cover.
Mathieu Soucy all the dishes are dirty
LOL
No .....
the dog is Alpharius
1. Let's be honest: Gork and Mork probably couch surf at the Brass Citadel when they take a break from beating each other to a pulp out in the Formless Wastes, much to Khorne's exasperation (not that anyone can stop them from entering the Fortress of Khorne. The duo just smash anything that gets in their way and then chill on Khorne's couch for awhile).
2. Wait, *Nurgle has a mansion?!*
Yep, a garden and a mansion.
Yeah, down by the cemetery with a lovely view of the swamps. Nurgle's an Addams.
I like the idea of it being Dorothy and her little dog Toto
But I also prefer the idea that it is just a little girl and her poor dog. Trapped in a realm of unrelenting horror that they can only traverse because they don't even try to understand it. I love the idea of the both of them managing to solve the labyrinth as it's a happy ending, that even the most hopeless of situations can be traversed, even in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium
Andrew Ryan plus a childs mind is full of imagination and is pretty elastic when grasping subjects, something like that would easily be tzentchs counter as adults tend to be very rigid in thoughts.
What if it was just a girl from the 1800s who somehow got into the Warp and then came back babbling about the Warp, but nobody understood her, and she inspired the Wizard of Oz.
"WHO IS THIS CHILD AND WHERE DID SHE GET A BANEBL-CREEEEEEEED!" - Tzeentch, probably.
She's Sly Marbo's daughter
Robin S impossible, then it would have said: the crystal labyrinth exploded in tzeentches face!
Sly Marbo's daughter would have kicked the Guardians ass!
Tzeentch is still unaware of the detpack she left taped to his ass when she left.
You mean her name is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i think we all know what noise Marbo made upon the Girls conception, the question is who was the woman so badass that she could survive the event?
She has to be the child of Urasakar Creed. It'd take a tactical genius to navigate that Labyrinth.
@sol walker Mate I've met a few PhD's who aren't really smart. It's a just a title and a qualification that you researched a subject very well. Being educated does not mean you are automatically intelligent.
The simplest answer is usually the correct one. A child got curious of what behind the milk fridges and stumble upon the maze. Her she realizes that the maze look alot like the emperor bless flake puzzle maze and used it as reference. Now the guardian ignore the child because she was a blank, and tzeentch only notice her when she tug of one of his many feather tendrils and nonchalantly ask "Mr. Bird man have you seen my ma?" The rest is history.
she followed the not this way signs and answered 42 to every question
Another possibility, she may have been a sensei?
You mean a child of the Emperor that fled from the Inquisition and hides herself in the labyrinth? Plausible.
I like to think that it's just some random kid who wandered in and solved the maze by sheer chance, or maybe she did find a way to cheat it and just walked through.
Sitting in his Library Tzeench plays his card games with the small child that wanders around. Its how he got so good and why his deck is so specialized
What if. Just maybe. This little girl. Is in fact, a little girl?
The child is an aspect of Tzeentch itself.
I recall it mentioned in the lore that if any one of Tzeentch's multitude of plans within plans ever truly worked, no matter how small, it would completely and utterly undo the god and everything he has wrought.
His maze is intended to keep the unwanted or unworthy out. But if it did that mean one of his plans "worked."
Thus he intentionally created a splinter entity (be it the girl or her dog) that was capable of solving his maze in an unexpected way, "cheating" as it were, so that his plan for the maze "failed."
And if anyone figured that out it means his attempts to keep it a secret means also failed.
Thus Tzeentch persists.
Both could one of the ancient shards of tzeentch after the other gods shattered him
My hypothesis is that the girl beat all the guardian and tzeentch at paradox-billiards-vostroyan-roulette-fourth-dimensional-hypercube-chess-strip poker, and then got accused of cheating
Just like everyone's favourite golden banana
@@StarboyXL9 captain general kitten he will soon beat void dragon
@@StarboyXL9 captain general is best custodian dont you agree
It was probably my cat. I still can't figure out how she gets into half the places I find her.
All cats can slide through the warp. Its a natural ability.
They also enslave lesser races to be their servants using their psychic powers.
"Your riddle child. I am green and swathed in black, with an army of flying apes at my behest. Yet with all my unknowable power, I can be destroyed with a bucket of water. What am I?"
"A witch?"
"You are the only mortal in all the ages to have solved this riddle. You may pass."
"yeah so we're going to extend the 2nd floor and add a porch to the living room"
"Cool, what you gonna use for the foundations of the porch?"
"Oh, you know, battle, conflict and blood, the usual"
I don't want to know what materials would be used for an extension to Nurgle's mansion
“Only those with the strongest minds...”
*shows Kaldor Draigo*
Well I suppose if you were already insane it would be hard for something to drive you insane.
I think I could see Tzneech intrigued as to how a little girl and her dog entered his realm and didn’t go insane, so he invites her into his keep and plays cards or chess while he is asking her questions.
Tzeentch adopting a little girl is vary wholesome I will choose to believe this
I personally like to think that it's just a regular girl that got lost near a hidden Chaos Gate and stumbled into Tzeentch's Labyrinth. She managed to answer the questions through sheer luck or perhaps her wild imagination allowed her to come up with solutions no adult could. Also, this is quite fitting for the God of Fate and Change, as the mortal that passed his riddles was the most unlikely and least expected candidate to do so.
I don't think Tzeentch would be so surprised if it was the emperor like you said. I'm getting Wizard of Oz vibes.
Kass Negri that's because the character is based on Dorothy from The Wizard of Oz. Specifically the book series which was far more surreal than the movie.
It is my personal belief that the story is a lure. Tzeentch by cannon is omniscient about all events past and present. The moment the girl entered his labyrinth he would have known it. He would always know how much progress she was making and how close she was to his library. It is literally impossible to surprise Tzeentch. I believe the story of the girl was invented by Tzeentch or one of his minions to entice Chaos champions and others foolish enough to try to enter the labyrinth themselves. Once inside, they would be completely at Tzeentch's mercy. If anyone useful to him entered, Tzeentch would be able to then place them anywhere at anytime of his choosing in accordance with his infinite schemes.
Not my finest infiltration I'll give you that.
I COMPLETED YOUR DARE NOW PAY UP BIG E YOU OWE ME A NEW BODY!
Ha
Well shit how you doing you old fart
I like to think it was legitimately just a little girl. Takes a nap one day and wakes up in the crystal Labyrinth and her grandfather really loved riddles prepared her by constantly giving her riddles everyday as a bonding ritual.
My theory is that the maze itself is flawed in that it is perfect for a child to solve.
Due to them having minds that are far more adaptable and not having and preconceptions with which to mess with. The riddles themselves may be inherently harder to solve for those with powerful minds capable of making their way through the labyrinth, riddles that cause them to overthink and filled with superfluous information that would mislead them. The child's naiveite may have been a boon in this regard, for giving a simple answer is often the correct one when answering riddles. You have to remember that riddles very often play on the listeners preconceptions of words and concepts which a child would not have.
Are you familiar with Petals Around the Rose? Its a 'game' which is specifically that.
The laughing god or the deceiver
the deceiver wouldn't be able to survive in the warp.
Abaddon The Despoiler could be some kind of construct or avatar
It couldn't have been Failbaddon the Harmless, he would have launched a Black Crusade to the Labyrinth and be crushed even before they entered the warp
SSVjoker So true. 😂😂
I agree with this. The laughing god or the emperor seems the most plausible, and I favor the laughing god, that may be genderless.
It’s possible that the creature which solved the labyrinth was not the full light of the Anathema, but perhaps instead a fragment of that glorified Lich’s disintegrating soul?
I like the idea of this just being a extremely powerful child that got extremely lucky and just got threw it all know I shall make a a deamon Prince (princess?) From this idea!
I know time is all kinds of fucked up in the warp, but do we have even a rough date of when this 'little girl' solved the Crystal Labyrinth?
Asking what time a thing happened in the warp is like asking where exactly the egg is in a freshly baked cake.
However, when exactly the Solver of the riddles entered the warp to confront the maze if at all is unknown.
If the Solver entered the warp, presumably it was some time after the form it took was possible, so pretty much after humans domesticated dogs, or after the Wizard of Oz, if the Solver was making a reference only some perpetuals and the Emperor get by M41.
Unless it could see the future and was fucking with humanity 'for the lols' as techpriests put it.
Maybe a reference to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz? Wasn't her dog black?
Warpaz21 At least in the movie, yes. I haven't read the book, so I don't know if that was changed.
They changed other things like that too--for example, in the book her magic slippers were silver, but they were changed to ruby because color film was a brand new technology at the time and they wanted to show it off as much as possible.
So, it's conceivable that they might have changed the description of the dog to accommodate what they had on hand.
I have a question that you might be able to answer, Inquisitor.
Is Belisarius Cawl a perpetual?
I wonder now how an Immortal might adjust to cybernetics. Surely there's no way Mars is exempt from the rare chances that gives rise to such beings?
Probably making them unable to fully heal and thus becoming an undying abomination if badly wounded enough, as their nature won’t let them die but their cybernetics won’t let them heal.
So basically the state the emperor is in
I love the story of the little girl and the dog solving the this maze. I never thought that it could have been a disguise, and it blows my mind to think it could have been The Emperor who achieved this. Perhaps the Black Lybrary is where he learned the secrets of how to make his primarchs.
No the black library is in the web way
Little girl with a dog? Why, it must have been Dorothy and Toto. "I don't think we're in Kansas anymore." LOL.
Dropped what I was doing and clicked on the Message.
this guardian reminds me of the Sphinx.
Matt
The riddle of the sphinx
johnny galt yeah man.
Probably the inspiration for the guardian
I'm sure she felt she wasn't in Kansas anymore.
I always assumed that obviously it was the Emperor and, since he went through the Chaos gate during the Dark Age of Technology, he found the knowledge of how to fully create the Primarchs in Tzeentch's library
To fully create the primarch just as tzeench planned
hmmm let's see..... who likes trolling around and has access to a library that holds the answers to everything?
Well, that would be me, but I dont think that qualifies as the answer...
Trazyn.
I blame David Bowie the Goblin King for putting a little girl in the Labyrinth
👍
The girl is Alpharius.
Is Alpharius the 40k version of Spartacus
Cmckerracher nope, Spartacus is the real life version of Alpharius
Maybe Alpharius has been a little girl this entire time.
Everyone is Alpharius
Alpharius not every1, only every bald one
I'm going with just a regular little girl and her puppy, an insanely WTF worth series of events, all the other Chaos Gods and the Emperor joining forces to help her through the maze, and the Laughing God changing the riddle to an extremely easy one with the answer being Strawberries as a way to troll Tzeench and a bet to see how long it takes for him to figure it all out... Isha won the bet at 5 and half centuries. Hey immortality is long and boring and you find your fun where you can.
Tzeentch: “THIS *NEVER* HAPPENED!”
Little girl: “Or did it?”
I love your videos and theories. They're great theories that make a lot of sense. The only thing that makes them bad is you never get to know if they're true or not. It's like watching a series that leaves you on a cliff hanger, but then cancels the next season.
It’s Doctor Who in their earliest incarnation.
It's was Mork and Gork. Mork being the little dog and Gork being the girl. And they got there by sheer stupidity! Literally just walked in didn't know where they were and yelled at the Guardian a bunch of nonsense and then walked up to Tzeentch. And said who da hell iz you! Tzeentch understandably being so ugly embarrassed about the whole ordeal that he never said anything about it.
In regard to The Emperor entering the Warp through the Gate of Molech, I've had my own theory he allowed the Gods to possess him as to then exorcise them and gain the power that follows from that experience.
That...is a possibility I'd never considered before...
Well he is certainly immune to chaotic corruption
That _would_ turn him into the Anathema for the Four.
That's equivalent to a single superhuman psyker who is an amalgamation of a hundred other psyker-shamans facing and denying the accumulated sins of the whole humanity if not all sentient beings.
Dunno. If Emps did that, his balls would form a black hole with their sheer mass. In fact, he would become the God of Balls, with Saint Ollanius forever at his right side, Marbo to the left, and Astral Knights forming his honor guard.
They did. It's called Storm of the Emperor's Wrath.
a girl has no name
I admit it, that was funny
It could well have been Delirium, from Neil Gaiman's Endless Nights. With her would have been the dog Barnabas.
Dorothy was an older teen, maybe a young adult so she would likely not have been described as a little girl.
If it was one of the Endless then Tzeetch better watches what he says.
I can imagine 'Dance magic dance' playing throughout the labyrinth
It was obviously CATO SICARIUS.
Hey man, i recall reading Olanius alluding to the fact that he sailed with Jason and the Argonauts. I suspect there is some co-relation between the golden fleece and the emperors badassery, get back to me baby.
another great vid bud keep it up
My money is on the Laughing God, he would think it hilarious.
I love watching one of these while drinking my morning coffee.
well, if your stuck in one place, would be funny to troll the chaos gods like that
Little girl is the emperor's feminine side confirmed.
Technically the Emperor is a gestalt entity of all the psykers/shamans that died during their/his/it's creation, so one aspect of the Emperor actually being a little girl is entirely possible.
Darn, even big E wants to be the little girl.
A 9 foot tall God-like man in a school girl outfit going Nico Nico Ni sounds like a Chaos Gods worst nightmare
@@randomguy3849 Not for Slaanesh. Probably right up her alley? ;) :P
What if it was Tzeentch himself just trolling his guardian?
Perhaps it was the Emperors real first child? A sensei? It would be very interesting if it was.
That level of mockery screams of Cegorach
One of the lost Primarchs?
I enjoyed this video very much. I have wondered if they where ever going to tap into this lore any time soon. I hope so because it would make for a great novel .
It's m00t. Tzeench's labyrinth is as nothing next to /b/, so he doesn't care. He came to ask Tzeench whether he should create /tg/. And lo and behold, it happened.
A sensei?
One of the Emperors TRUE children and almost as potent as he is?
It was the Daedric prince of douchbaggery in disguise.
my money is on sheogorath
Mine's on Sanguine, if only to confuse people
Someone has to do the Cheese Test on that little girl.
this fits _too_ well into an idea i had for a 40k fanfic. i had never heard of this before, but its _so_ perfectly in line with a story i thought about writing...but this story is at least several years old, and i only recently came up with my idea...........is this Tzeentch's doing?
ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN
You I like to think the dog was the emperor and he was just along for the ride maybe gave a bit of hope and advice to the girls but she did the leg work herself.
I think that the child may represent humanity's indecent side or maybe it is its ignorance as the line of "ignorance is bliss" and a child has no concept of insanity at such young age and as such the maze would be more like a fun game for the child rather than anything threatening. Kinda like Alice in wonderland only not that the child tries to make sense of the chaos around it.
If the Emperor was forced to do labors for the Chaos Gods, what was the labor he had to do for Slaanesh?
Get her backstage to a Motley Cru concert. She's a big fan of Nikki Sixx
You know what it was...
So it was either a backstage pass or a very intense game of Paradox-Billiards-Vostroyan-Roulette-Fourth Dimensional-Hypercube-Chess-Strip Poker. Right, nothing sexual at all. Or strip Monopoly, that's always a guess.
A literal dick-measuring contest. Of course, the Emprah's was bigger.
Find something Slaanesh dislikes and finds no joy from. He has yet to find anything that has more than slightly perturbed the Prince
Most probably an ancient being, the most powerful psyker to ever exist, one with an incredibly wry sense of humor, who undoubtedly watched AND read The Wizard of Oz during the 20th century and thought this would be a great way to fuck with Tzeench. The only better and more clever guise to solve The Labyrinth would have been a petulant 1986 Jennifer Connolly.
it could even be abaddon because he wanted to please Tzeentch and so he changed the form into a humble girl who wants power
The thing is, abbbadon wants pretty much nopthing to do with any of the chaos gods.
Since we know that Russ went into the warp to search for something, he might have come across a piece of his father, who was disguised as Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, a story that only the Emperor would remember due to him being alive then. And then they team up and totally decide to mess with Tzeench (and Magnus if they are lucky) because lots of reasons. 😂😂😂😂
Ephrael Stern!
I'm guessing it was The Emperor. Unless I'm mistaken, the idea that he made a deal with the Chaos God's is their side of the story.
I think Big E knows that Chaos is inherently untrustworthy so he'd never make a deal with them. Far more likely he stole or beat the secrets out of them.
He'd have to have tricked Khorne as I honestly think Khorne would respect one who could beat him in a straight up fight.
Would Trazyn be troll-y enough to troll Tzeentch?
Yes, I think he would.
Also, I'd like to imagine the gatekeeper is like the bridge scene from Monty python.
Defo Emps mindf**king with ol Tzeentchy. Even the chaos gods get spooked at the universal creepy sight of a spooky little girl. Redrum...Redrum...
It was a young Lotara Sarrin with her childhood dog, *Doom Hound of Bloody Conquest*. Even at such a young age, she was marked for her destiny with Khorne, screwing over Tzeentch.
I just thoght of some thing what if the child is the arch magos bellasrius cawll in his true pcychic avatar that would explain where he got the knowledge for the primaris Marine
10 thousand year is enough for a heretekal like Cawl to crack the genecode as he is not following lots of standard Machnicus procedure or simply thinking that Emperor's work can't be Improved, he is from the age where Guilliman himself asked him to do it, that command gives you the assurance and authority that it can be done.
your missing the k in your name and your probably right but its more fun to fantasize i mean i didn't think space marine space marines where a thing
That's the Emperor (the girl) and the Sigilite (the dog).
I don't think they're in Kansas anymore.
The Emprah wants to be the little girl
truly our Emperor
Little girl must be the star Child. One does not simply visits that place
It was simply Alice on one of her adventures through Wonderland.
Would have guessed it was cegorach the laughing god because if anyone is going to mock tzeench by solving the maze in the form of a little girl it would be him
I like to imagine it was emps fucking with Tzeentch because I like emps just being human and having a laugh and a tease every once in a while. Like with Amar Astarte and the Astartes project.
I think it's an interesting idea that it is in fact a demon, but an imperial demon.
If the omniscient Tzeentch could not recognize her, she could have been a Sensei, since daemons could not see them. Then again, those were actually a Tzeentch plot, so... Someone who has been illuminated?
Part of me likes to imagine Horus’s manifestation in the warp as a little girl.Another part likes to imagine Kitten looked like a little girl in the warp getting lost on the way to the Black Library.Kitten having a little dog familiar would be greatly ironic
Toto We're not in Kansas anymore.
0:41 First time i listened to it I heard : "The realm of the Blood God is known as the fortress of Porn". I was like: WTF?
No wonder girl and mork like to chill on his couch.