"England players are using criticism as motivation" | Rob Dorsett looks ahead to quarter-final
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Rob Dorsett reports on England as they look ahead to Saturday's Euro 2024 quarter-final against Switzerland on Saturday.
Dorsett says England players are using criticism as motivation and to galvanise the squad.
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That's why they look so highly motivated then and are playing so well
If it's so motivational, why are they crying about it so much in public
They're throwing it back at the public. They probably hate the fans and playing for England.
They are moaning about criticism not motivated by it
They're going to get a lot of motivation, then.
😂
Unfortunate, we are not seeing any improvement in this team despite the criticism
Gareth Southgate is right about Euro 96, except in the group stage we had seen the 4-1 victory vs Netherlands, one of England's greatest performances. The game against Scotland was against a strong Scotland side at the time and we had seen the magic of Gazza. The Spain game was extremely boring but we had seen the passion and determination to come through a penalty shootout after losing so many before. It's not really comparable to the dross we have seen against much worse opposition thus far.
Well said sir. 👏
1996 - England v scotland 13 shots - England v Switzerland 14 shots - England v Netherlands 12 attempts 4 goals not the same gareth
England were vulnerable in that Scotland game though.
The missed penalty was during a period of Scotland momentum.
Gazza goal buried it but it wasn’t plain sailing.
Neither was the Switzerland if you remember.
It was only again Holland that it clicked in.
Bang average is different to absolutely terrible. I watched euro 96 in its entirety, the standard of play wasn't even close to as bad as the crap we're having to watch this time round
Lots of pointless vitriol from 'fans', we're still in it and still have everything to play for.
No they aren't, Gareth is teaching them to be professional victims and a us vs them attitude.
If you think Gareth has anything to do with the players' honest response to the fans and the media, you're delusional.
Your an entitled kid
@@C33Fernandez The manager sets the culture. It has everything to do with him. Especially when Southgates the target of 90 percent of it.
@@xXiiOriGinZXx The players can think and feel for themselves. Do you think the manager walks into the press room and says "okay, now lambast me, ridicule my decisions and question the players ability"? The "us vs. them" mentality the camp now has was literally instigated by the media and fanbase, not the other way around.
Too many irresponsible, entitled 'adults' in the English fanbase/press who wouldn't even know how to separate their laundry, yet are happy to criticise as if what they're saying is factual or intelligent.
@@C33Fernandez You clearly know very little about psychology
Hopefully southgate uses it as
Motivation because it’s mainly aimed at him not the players wrong tactics formation and team selection
Are they? As they’ve been ripped to shreds so far as done absolutely nothing so this is a flat lie.
Lmao if thats how they play when they are motivated then god help us when they're not...
Portugal barely beat Slovenia and Slovakia beat Belgium. People are disrespecting opponents. We haven't been great but we aren't beaten. Get behind the team people
Don't forget Denmark who were robbed against the Germans.
Spent 2 grand to go watch two games in Germany and they were appalling. I’m entitled to say whatever I want. We’re shite
@@Jack-qv5ru You're entitled to an opinion, regardless. Just make is worthy of somebody reading :)
@Jack-qv5ru yeah that's a fair point, I do feel sorry for you and the fans put there
@@Jack-qv5ru which games? I reckon the Slovakia game was (eventually) worth the effort and cost. The other three not so much.
English players must be the most motivated in the world.
I don’t think I’ve seen a team create a siege mentality against their own fans.
England topped their group, they have beaten slovakia and are in the quarters, but what critics see is failure from Southgate, Wait till you lose a game you will know how defeat and failure looks like. GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM AND SUPPORT YOUR PLAYERS. In such tournaments it is about getting a result, NOT about beautiful attacking football, that one go and watch the premier league.
I agree, as an Englishmen the sense of entitlement of the fans is annoying. We have played crap in every game though. Getting results when you're not playing well is good sign.
The performances have been awful. People are well behind the team to win. But people arent going to pretend we have played well or look likely winners. That would be delusional, which is what you are.
@@environm3ntalist549 If we beat Switzerland we'll probably play Austria for a place in the final. England are favourites for a reason. Portugal, France, Spain and Germany all have to fight among themselves for a place in the final. I'm not delusional.
@@a-walpatches6460 they are only favourites with the UK bookies who shorten their odds based on the effect and risk of patriotic betting, not anyone else
@@environm3ntalist549 Not true, they're favourites with international bookies too. We probably won't be if we get to the final, it will be the team from the other side of the draw.
They need to do something, because they are absolutely terrible
Not an England fan but will never understand his tactics of “playing not to lose”. How do you get to a tournament and play like Burnley
Ask Greece they won playing like this in 2004
Looking at their performance, they might need a lot more motivation.
Take Jude out of that team and they'll not even get out of the group stage.
We got lucky . Nothing more nothing less
Sorry how is scoring a goal in football "luck"?!
@@suburbia2050 we can get all philosophical or academic about the meaning of luck or we can admit we were dreadful all game and got away with it with the bounce of the ball
Motivated them to start looking on linkedin for a new manager 😂
I'm embarrassed to support my country because of totally classless behaviour displayed by media and pundits. Random a hole commenters on social media are to be expected, but media figures have a responsibility to support the players.
congratulations you've just came first in "biggest prat contest" you receive $100
Rightfully criticising a series of poor performances is "classless"? You want to live in a world where the media and pundits are brainless cheerleaders who are banned from saying anything negative? Yeah, you should be embarrassed.
Its not criticism its realism
"England players are using criticism as motivation"....errr, this is the 4th game in a row where they've received criticism, so when are we going to see evidence of this "motivation" on the pitch?
Yeah clever, so when they get tonked by the Swiss they can blame us for not criticising them enough!
This doesn’t work. Southgate needs to address the issues with the tactics and formation instead of just hoping the players “play better” because they’re read some harsh tweets.
The problem with Southgate's 1990 & 1996 analogies is it assumes that England are going to get better, when we have yet to see any evidence of that. This isn't the fault of the players. It's Southgate's stubborn persistence in starting with Trippier & Foden both out of position on the left. This has failed 4 times in a row against weak teams. But because we've scrambled through to the QF he is perceiving it as working.
That's all fair and well, but the real question is whether Gareth Southgate can see what's going on and change up the tactics. Unless some of these players start saying screw it, I'm going to do my own thing, I don't see how this is going to change anything.
I still don't know what gesture.
"Getting seriously motivated requires some serious focus 🙌"
They aren't lacking in belief, it's the tactical set-up and attitude they take into the games. The tempo of the passing is far too slow, the movement off the ball is poor, they defend too deep, and that's just for starters.
lets be honest if they do not like the critisicism then they should look at the manager as its his tactics that are the root cause way to turn the fans against your own team
The media close to the team daren't say anything that might upset them. The player's and Gareth's attitude to criticism stinks. They've been dreadful, that isn't the fans fault, it's entirely their own.
one minute they are saying we dont even see any of the criticism and ignore everything then suddenly they are saying stop picking on us and please say only nice things about us even though we are playing absolutely atrocious. Why cant we at least try to score goals and win a game ? Its more about this for me...there is no intent to score
Better win the quarter final too boys. Nothing short of that is good enough.
RELAX - it's just a Brummie War Sign. "Judes got big balls & i cannot lie". Set to the black rap music of I like big butt's & I cannot lie.
Big Sam & Steve Bruce & Gary Neville were spot on - that A- we were much better with 3 CBs & 2 Wingbacks.
That B- Foden & Trippiers own goal off side was awful in KO's. Usually a 99% game loser. Phil & KT are off it. They also messed up a free kick from a nice spot & lots of lefty over-laps by going inside with slow tired passing. They can't cope with KO pressure which whereas Jude & Trent & Palmer & Gordon & Rice & Kobbie enjoy it. The more the pressure the more they love it.
So Don't bash sweet bee 🐝 Jude & Harry & Gareth (who probably said a nice prayer & then decided to keep both on when they were v tired) & sweet 🐝 Jude delivered the honey (but Foden can't do it without ManC's 115 FFP con tricks funded expensive team & thier big squad rotations). Is Phil this generations Jimmy Greaves. Can't get it done in hot humid summer tournament's but is great in the cool autumn & spring months?
So Cmon 3 🦁 fans, help Gareth sort the left side out by doing yo prayers & meditations. Stop the bashing as it feels like 1966 with
Trent = Bobby Moore
Jude = Bobby Charlton
Harry = Roger Hunt
Palmer = Sir Geoff Hurst
Kobbie = Nobbie
Rice = Alan Ball
Toney = Jeff Astle
Gordon = Martin Peters
Stokes = Jack Charlton
Walker = Ray Wilson
Guehi = Cohen
Saka = Armfield
Luv Rob Draper news
UEFA love picking on a Jude. Don't mind them. Seems the camera loves him and analyses only him while Mbappe gets away taunting a player for own goal and no action🤨
They are supposed to be bloody motivated by it, can’t see much evidence of it though🤷♂️
Southgate needs to plau ultra defensive since marc geui cannot play, I would advise playing 5 at the back with trent and saka as wingbacks. I really want him to drop kane too but i know he wont do that, so he needs to make up for that with a good attacking midfield
I understand the criticism but we could easily shrug that off with a few more direct moments. 1 shot on target and waiting til the 95th minute is hard to get excited about and all tournament we've struggled to get shots away. Let's see us be a touch more direct and quicker getting some shots off and you can bet the atmosphere will change!
Don't forget we criticised our performance vs Slovenia, Denmark and Slovakia.... well Portugal were taken to penalties, Slovakia beat Belgium and Denmark we a toe away from taking the lead, without VAR the game could have been different. Certainly wasn't an easy game. We've played dogged teams and Switzerland will provide a real test, let's bring something to them.
Wow Rob Dorsett should get a medal when they win the tournament. Lemon
thats great cos there is masses coming and its warranted ..embarrassing tbh ...how Kyle Walker gets to start ahead of TAA nowI(Iam WHU fan) is beyond me ...he has been attrocious but he is teachers pet .Kane is a woeful captain and largely goes missing ...we all know how this pans out so use your new motivation to prove me wrong
the manager should motivate them
They shouldn't bloody need galvanising ... They're representing their Country !!!!
They've played the teams ranked, 21st, 57th, 45th and 32nd and have stunk the tournament out scoring 3 goals after 90mins in 4 games. whilst being the "favourites" at the start of the tournament.
Those Rankings are irrelevant. The worst team in the tournament should be the 24th best there. They will need to have beaten higher 'ranked' teams to get to the tournament anyway
Plenty of low scoring games in the tournament so far, have you even been watching?
Southgate is giving the wrong mentality to these players.
Motivation comes from desire to excel, not to prove a point.
Problem is though england haven't been getting better loss to iceland before the tournament, what i saw of foden wasn't good and bellingham so UEFA are saying oh that gesture is ok a manager last season had a go at a headbutt saying kids will c that and replucate
Wow. That’s radical 😂
it's not hard is it, rather that moaning why are they not saying "We agree with the fans and pundits, we know we're not playing great, we're working hard and looking for ways to improve. The most important thing is we're still in it but obviously we know we have a lot more to give".
Show they're using it as a motivator
Many of these players are on 200k + per week and they can't handle criticism after playing terribly so far! Of course you'll get criticised.
ITS NOT MOTIVATION ITS RUDENESS
Criticisms will always be there as long as you are a professional football player, so grow up and stay humble before you won anything.
The England reporting is strange. When we played Slovenia it was woeful and awful et cetera…. When Slovenia played Portugal, it’s Slovenia were fantastic and deserved more…. Not a slight comment that Portugal could’ve been woeful, terrible et cetera.
There’s definitely room to improve especially with creating chances but there’s a very weird defeatist and gloomy perspective given to England that every other club seems to be exempt from. Even France’s win over Belgium, not a word from anyone about how lucky they were or how bad they played.
Playing for England should be motivation enough
You can just perspire your way to a win with effort with bad tactics…
They do know if they played a bit better there would be more positive response.
4 games very average and poor play albeit against low block defensively organised teams. But still we didnt have a shot on target against slovakia until bellingham tried an overhead kick and thankfully put it in the net. The delusion is incredible.
Bellingham used to be really likeable, I think he's developing superstar syndrome
It was not a wondergoal by Bellingham, I thought thet Bales and Rooneys were much better !!!!!
they will be put in stocks at Heathrow and have rotten vegetables thrown at them ..."its coming home " ....jeez😂
most motivated team ever then eh
The motivation thing is not working haven't the babies not noticed
Lord southgate doesn't get enough respect
..its frankly, unacceptable.
Not sure why DEI hires are presenting here. Yawn.
It’s everywhere now. Literally can’t watch a game of football with there being at least 1 female presenter or commentator
Bunch of multimillionaires crying about not living up to the expectations of the fans who pay their wages
So playing for your country and competing for a major international trophy isn't motivation enough? If putting on the shirt doesn't get you properly motivated, maybe you don't deserve to wear it. They haven't been good enough, and only two pieces of individual brilliance have seen them squeak by.
Why is this talking head going on about this..he did the same jester at club level months ago..boring no need to listen even 30 seconds to this chatter snoozeeeeee snoozeeeeee
They can't even use the criticism to improve. Nothing is working and the football is still poor.
Poor show if they can only motivate themselves when criticised. The mind boggles
They need to listen to some DJ Khaled, 'We the best, They hatin us, we be winning' type music to get motivated
No one needs to listen to Khalid. No one!
With the nonsense they say during the post-match interviews, one would be forgiven for thinking they actually do.
@@Modus07 lol
Any forced subs will benefit the overall team...GS doesn't make them voluntarily!
Geyhi suspended 😂 it’s a wrap
The reporter says today is about relaxation and the family and kids are visiting the players. Does this mean that the players will be okay with Bellingham making vile and disgusting sexual gestures towards the other players children, or is it something that the English team feel that only other children should be expected to deal with sexual gestures being directed towards an audience that they are included in.
The England team should be ashamed at the actions of Bellingham and he should be removed from the team. Especially on a day when children will be around the team.
Sure they are 😂😂
SWISS WILL DEAL WITH THEM ACORDINGLY
THIS IS HOW WOMEN NEED TO DRESS
They need to find it from somewhere, Southgate couldn't inspire a slug.
The truth is England have a manager who hopes to win, an apologist, a bottler, a man who missed from 6 yards, what has he ever won? someone tell me please?
I feel sorry for the players as they have a manager who is tactically inept.
As for the victim mind set, your either a winner or a loser, winners win inspite of everything, too much belief in x amount of years of hurt, time to get a grip, there are champions in that team all across the field.
Oh wait, were doomed we don't have Phillips!, give me a break!
Its all so bloody boring isn't it...just play football and win! All this ancillary bullsh*t means nothing!
English will win this tournament and prove all the critics wrong, come on guys, recharge your batteries, focus, don't let anything break your spirit, break your focus. England 🏴 will win, don't let anybody break your concentration. You better win guys
Thank you! Good to see more England fans appearing and showing the fake paper fans on how to support your team!!
Well let's face it, there's no talent to use as inspiration or praise for that matter...
We’ll draw 0-0 and get beat on pens
Nah, we beat them in open play and send them packing.
Motivated to play at a new level of shite..
This 'victim' mentality will not translate into anything positive on the pitch unfortunately. The fact that Slovakia were ahead and still made two changes before we did (only because of the trippier injury) says everything we need to know about Southgate.
I wish they all understood that us fans would love England to bring it home, so the criticism is actually constructive and aimed mostly at GS, but he has managed to convince the players that it is aimed at them - hence the digs from Kane, JB and Rice towards the fans and media.
Ivan Toney coming on with 1 minute to go is everything that is wrong with StubbornGate.
Maybe it is written in the stars for him to bring it home, but with the run ins we've had for the last 8 years, to not lead to at least one glory is absolutely disgraceful. We had so many options after the WC and we've stayed with this piece of sh*t manager.
Two CDMs means 6 defenders on the pitch, (7 with the goalie) so we are relying on just 4 players - Foden, Bellingham, Saka and Kane to break down team with a low block (9-10 men behind the ball). We have played this same formation for 8 years and it isn't going to change until we part ways with GS.
Slovakia should have had scored at least two more goals and we were 30 seconds away from defeat but it's forgotten by a moment of magic from JB.. wether we win or not, get GS tf out of here.
Why do you all think Gareth is in their ear constantly telling them fans and media are criticising them? It's literal delusion. Fans and media ARE criticising them - Not only Southgate (FYI my issues with Southgate are in his starting formation & line-up, not with his game management. I think the issues are more fundamental and holistic than they are microscopic).
We're starting to see so many English fans and media trying to gaslight so hard. They can't bash players then avoid responsibility by saying "no, you shouldn't be affected by masses of negative fans" or "you're welcome, I talk crap and you get motivated, I get credit too". Most English people have the self-awareness of a 4-year-old, so I don't trust us as a fanbase to even realise the effect we have on the camp as a whole.
Generally speaking, you don't get to say "the criticism is actually constructive" just because you say it is - You have to actually behave that way for it to be true, and most vocal people aren't. They can't even explain why they believe their options are more viable, they just parrot what everyone else is saying. And also, keep in mind: England don't have international heritage. 58 years without a major trophy. To expect more than one trophy in 8 years is delusional and entitled.
He knows more about football than you lil bro
@@C33Fernandez First and foremost, I said the criticism is aimed "mostly" at GS which is implying that some of it is aimed at the players as they haven't all performed well, including JB and Kane.
With regard to constructive criticism, do you honestly believe most England fans want to criticise to the detriment of the team? They are criticising in hope that GS will get a grip and address problems we've had over the 4 games which are ultimately down to GS's selection and largely down to his in game management. The left side has remained unbalanced and Gordon is sitting on the bench whilst Foden is being played at LW which clearly does not work.
For you to suggest you have no issue with his game management speaks volumes to me tbh. Southgate will only make subs at 70 mins onwards unless he is forced to change. Gordon was brought in on 89' against Slovenia and Toney was brought in on 90+4' against Slovakia. They are having no time to make an impact on the game and Toney was lucky that JB scored the wonder goal as he would not have got to play an extra 30 minutes of ET.
England do have little football heritage but you completely misconstrued my point. I said considering the run ins we have had in the last 8 years, to not have won at least once is an absolute disgrace. How does this imply I think they should have won more than one trophy 🤔?
@@brandonking2679 ok spectator boy, can you grace us with your superior knowledge rather than keyboard warrior type, antagonistic comments
@@antwootz7723 I'm watching the camp go through shifts in mentality from the last two tournaments. Not because of Southgate, but as an immediate response to media and fan criticisms. The players can think and feel for themselves. The media is a conglomeration of opinion, not just any one voice, and certainly is fueled by clicks, minutes of media consumption and sponsors - NOT by reason. As such, the negativity comes through in droves. It doesn't come through on a transcript as if to say "Hi Gareth, this is what we think would work, hope you consider it, good luck". We KNOW it affects the camp given the recent press conferences, so we shouldn't avoid that responsibility.
And yes, it should speak volumes. I wont sit here and justify my approach to problems (it's my profession, and it works). Game management is *second* to fundamentals, which is why I put more focus on it. My point being when you start the right players in the right formation, you shouldn't have to "recover" with earlier substitutes: It is tangential, but if we're talking about it, 20 minutes is the least amount of time I'd give for a sub to impact the game. I've speculated that 20-30 is ideal for a number of reasons.
In previous tournaments, people were complaining that 5 minutes isn't enough. Now it's 20. People still complain. However, GS's substitutions at 85-90 minutes, for me, indicates that he was playing them for extra time, which is so risky in and of itself. I would never have maintained such blind faith that we'd even get the equaliser in the first place.
My opinion on GS's faulty tactics has been vocal on social media from the first group stage game, but I simultaneously offer my opinions to correct it - I don't attack GS's character, nor the players' attitude or ability (which IS what people are doing).
In actuality, we probably have a similar outlook on what the football *ought* to be. But I feel that the way the media and fanbase delivers their feelings is, by my perception, detrimental and would be met with stubbornness, not concession. What happens if GS does what the media and masses are saying and it fails. Do you really think GS will be excused of that failure?
Lets just hope Bellingham doesnt miss a crucial penalty, hes a hero now/today, folk be defending his petty yesture etc....a week or so from today ue could be a 🐵 🦍
😂😂😂😂😂😂
A bunch of cry babies and wannabe divas that are mainly counting the seconds to go back to their clubs.
England 2024, we are witnessing some of the most dire football ever from an England team. I loved Tony Pulis when he was at Stoke and we were dire under him at times, but Southgate makes TP look like Pep. . Do these overpaid snowflakes ever sit down and watch what we have been watching?
A message for Bellingham........ the whole team hasn't been great the entire tournament so its more than fair for people to say "the team has been well below par" ever since they got there, take it on the chin, act like an adult and go out there and show the World who and what England are.
Behaving like a baby, making rude gestures at the fans and criticising the super loyal England supporters won't win you many friends.
England forever 🏴✌️