I doubt Hendrix hated anyone. One of the reasons that music was so great back then was an amazing musical ecosystem that helped to foster great music. Good thing social media wasn’t around to destroy that ecosystem.
Everyone , ALL the up and coming pro musicians in Rock absolutely adored Jimi Hendrix - Page , in particular. Jimi knew where he stood and was humble about it - never feeling threatened by anyone. So, I doubt he ever said anything negative about any band or musician in any interviews. What Hendrix HATED was managers and record execs who tried to subordinate him into being a teen idol or do stupid “tricks” as he said and he was public about it . Hendrix totally blew up the London scene and everyone knew it and went home and woodshedded as a result of it - this the reason it was such a hotbed of talent in the late 60’s
In fact, the only opinion that matters is the opinion of the public. If people like it, they will watch the shows and buy the albums. The rest is foolishness, envy, an inferiority complex. Nothing the envious say will change reality one millimeter, Led Zeppelin was one of the best things that happened in music
Trouble is, by that argument Taylor Swift is a genius. Being popular is one thing - still being popular, and getting new fans, 50 years later, is something else.
@@paddymeboy Well, I commented only from the point of view of the video but I agree with you from a general point of view, for me Taylor Swift is completely disposable. I’m young but I’m not stupid, in fact I prefer music from the 60s~80s…especially the 70s
Hearing all those other artists versions its a NO Brainer Zeppelin took those Rather boring versions to a whole new level . I wouldn't call it stealing more like improving !!
It was a different time. There was a (very) brief period where the main focus of the industry was innovation and originality. Anything derivative at the time was frowned on. Today, almost all pop, rock, rap, techno etc music is ultra derivative. In a way, Zep's plagiarism of blues artists was proto-sampling - taking lines and motifs of other songs as a basis of something new.
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January 1969 Zep comes out. October of 1969 Zep 2 comes out. it was over for Jimi. Pete likes boys, Zep likes chics. Everyone else? jealous. PERIOD.
George was so wrong about it. Lack of ability to create ballads? So what about Thank you, Tangerine, That's the Way, Going to California which all came before Rain Song?
Been a Hendrix fan(atic) ever since I first heard Are You Experienced when it was released, read & heard a lot of his I/v’s over the decades & never known Jimi to ‘hate’ anyone… it wasn’t his way at all!
My own resistance to listening to Led Zeppelin of my own accord didn't have anything to do with the material itself or whether or not they heavily ripped off other musicians that came before them. It was because their songs were often overly rotated on the air to a point where it became a total cliche when "Stairway to Heaven" never failed to make the top five greatest rock songs of all time. Thinking about George Harrison being critical of them, it's a relief that he didn't apparently criticize them for borrowing from other musicians, something of which all three of he, John Lennon and Paul McCartney were accused themselves.
The thing is they never credited any of the artists they covered or took from. Had it been today they would be been sued. When Jimi covered Dylan or Howlin Wolf, he verbally credited them in shows and everybody knew it was a cover. Zep went deep into old blues that the larger public never heard and packaged it as their own, in their own way. It's a great example of actual cultural appropriation. Personally I love Zep, all top 5 musicians in their categories and their music stands the test of time. I personally think it is a gift to the blues that their lyrics and tunes live on thru the most popular rock band ever, but I could also see how they might be turning in their graves, and it makes sense how someone as original as Hendrix would be off put by this strategy. There's a fine subjective line between plagiarism and homage, but Zep left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths who knew the music they were inspired by for that reason.
False, from what I understand, Jimi and Jimmy only met real briefly, with no conversation together for whatever reason, i dont think Jimi really listened to Zeppelin for an honest opinion, Jimi wasn't into criticism of other musicians, so not true
You're trying to make something out of nothing here. I guess it would be understandable if - _if_ - Hendrix thought they were unoriginal. Of course the blues material Zep did in their early days would have appeared quite differently to them, as white Brits, than it did to Hendrix. And maybe he was a little worried by them as rivals. But in any case they were only just getting going when he died, and were an entirely different musical entity - any resemblance is only superficial.
Just like Pete Townshend, Jack Bruce (who I admire very much), Ginger Baker and now Jimi Hendrix, I think they all have 1 thing in common towards Led Zeppelin and it's plain old fashioned JEALOUSY! Get over it and work on your OWN material you cry babies.
In the early records, Zeppelin was very derivative and pretty much stealing songs from blues and folk sources. They were already good, but they really peaked at the 4th album in 71 and by then, Hendrix had already passed away. So his opinion doesnt really matter, he never witnessed their peak of songs like stairway, levee breaks, Rain song, Kashmir, Ten years gone, song remains the same, and many others
@@frankkkbard0n315 : I understand BUT almost all the greats (Borrowed) from these great blues guitarists from the south and from the Roaring 20's, 30's and so forth. But you said the magic sentence "They were already good" but AMAZING when Zep was awarded the winner of that over the Beatles Melody Maker Poll Awards in 1970 September 16, I believe. That must have annoyed and amazed many readers and bands.
@@karsteinmartinsen489 The songs were merely vehicles for their talent. Whole Lotta Love blew up. Why? Because the talent of the band and the engineering of Kramer/Page. If you complain about some mundane lyrics in that song you are really nit picking. What Page did with that song was ahead of it's time. Jeff Beck is forgotten compared to Zeppelin. He had his chance to be big but blew it. His early albums sound lousy. I'm not referring to the songs or talent of the band itself but the Truth album should've never been released as it was. It needed to be worked over and maybe even re recorded. Page would've never allowed a sub par sounding album to be released. Whoever engineered that butchered it. It's crap that I can't listen to because it sounds like an amateur produced it.
The thing is they never credited any of the artists they covered or took from. Had it been today they would be been sued. When Jimi covered Dylan or Howlin Wolf, he verbally credited them in shows and everybody knew it was a cover. Zep went deep into old blues that the larger public never heard and packaged it as their own, in their own way. It's a great example of actual cultural appropriation. Personally I love Zep, all top 5 musicians in their categories and their music stands the test of time. I personally think it is a gift to the blues that their lyrics and tunes live on thru the most popular rock band ever, but I could also see how they might be turning in their graves, and it makes sense how someone as original as Hendrix would be off put by this strategy. There's a fine subjective line between plagiarism and homage, but Zep left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths who knew the music they were inspired by for that reason.
Can we just mention just how crappy a singer Robert Plant's warbles are? Coming up, I generally found him unlistenable. In school, I also couldn't stand the idiot stoner/alcoholic crowd who worshipped the band. Oh, and as a professional guitarist, I always found Jimmy Page's work to be sloppy AF. Only in adulthood would I come to appreciate them a bit more. In our late '20s, my twin brother (professional drummer) bought Led Zepplin II on CD. I was able to listen to this recording after college in adulthood without my previous biases. I enjoyed it much more than I thought would. On more critical analysis and reflection over the years, I have come to realize that the positive impact mainly comes from "the kitchen". It is John Paul Jones and John Bonham that truly made them ever sound good for the most part. Robert Plant's caterwauling is still unattractive for te most part, let alone his outsized arrogance. Jimmy Page's pouncey guitar work and his way outsized arrogance also remain irritating AF. He too suffers from misplaced arrogance. Gah...
Sloppy? Are you talking about albums or live? If it's off the album it's intentional. You realize Page took a big role in the production of the albums and being a studio musician early on he was quite keen about all the sounds in the recording process; not just guitar. I can understand your view on Plant. I don't have a problem with that. Many great bands also have that. For example, a pro guitarist I knew hated Rush because of Geddy Lee's voice. But he was also a fan of Jimmy Page as other top notch players I knew. Put in context for it's time period I'd say Zeppelin 2 was a monumental achievement for the band and probably ranks well in all time consideration.
Quit whining like a little baby. Billions of fans disagree with you. Your opinion is invalid and wrong. Go back to listening to your ARCHIES collection.
@@LenQuerido if you don't credit the original writer of the song, even though the arrangements have been changed you still need to credit the original. Other rock and roll acts did and still do what Zeppelin did but for some reason only Led Zeppelin gets trashed for it.
Correction : it was Robert Plant who took lyrics and mixed them into his own. Page had zero interest in lyrics. If you're going to accuse, at least be accurate about it. And by the way, Zeppelin credited Dixon for both his songs on their debut album. They also correctly credited "Chester Burnett" for The Lemon Song on LZ II on all the early UK editions. If you don't know who Burnett is, then perhaps you shouldn't even be talking about this at all. Plus Zeppelin was only doing what their blues counterparts had already been doing for several decades. Dixon and Howlin' Wolf and others were bigger thieves of others' music. This was just a blues-era pattern that was well known and when it comes right down to it, these old American blues artists stole so often from each other that no one really knows who wrote what exactly. By the late 60's, it became quite difficult to know which thief to credid for any given song. To be really honest, we are talking blues lyrics here. Some of the most basic, over-used and simplistic blues tropes that ever were - not bloody Shakespeare sonnets. Plant has stated often in the media - "It was a nick. Happily paid for." So there you are. These things never even made it into a courtroom (other than Stairway) and happily paid these guys millions for the use of their lyrics. AGES AGO. So get over it and stop beating a dead horse.
I doubt Hendrix hated anyone. One of the reasons that music was so great back then was an amazing musical ecosystem that helped to foster great music. Good thing social media wasn’t around to destroy that ecosystem.
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Yes, Jimi didn't hate them. He enjoyed enough of their gigs to hang around and get off on what Jimmy and Bonzo were playing.
Everyone , ALL the up and coming pro musicians in Rock absolutely adored Jimi Hendrix - Page , in particular. Jimi knew where he stood and was humble about it - never feeling threatened by anyone. So, I doubt he ever said anything negative about any band or musician in any interviews. What Hendrix HATED was managers and record execs who tried to subordinate him into being a teen idol or do stupid “tricks” as he said and he was public about it . Hendrix totally blew up the London scene and everyone knew it and went home and woodshedded as a result of it - this the reason it was such a hotbed of talent in the late 60’s
In fact, the only opinion that matters is the opinion of the public. If people like it, they will watch the shows and buy the albums. The rest is foolishness, envy, an inferiority complex. Nothing the envious say will change reality one millimeter, Led Zeppelin was one of the best things that happened in music
Trouble is, by that argument Taylor Swift is a genius. Being popular is one thing - still being popular, and getting new fans, 50 years later, is something else.
@@paddymeboy
Well, I commented only from the point of view of the video but I agree with you from a general point of view, for me Taylor Swift is completely disposable. I’m young but I’m not stupid, in fact I prefer music from the 60s~80s…especially the 70s
Hearing all those other artists versions its a
NO Brainer Zeppelin took those Rather boring versions to a whole new level . I wouldn't call it stealing more like improving !!
Jimi didn't hate anything
De nombreux groupes étaient meilleurs qu' Hendrix.
Je ne le vois pas critiquer ses confrères.
It was a different time. There was a (very) brief period where the main focus of the industry was innovation and originality. Anything derivative at the time was frowned on. Today, almost all pop, rock, rap, techno etc music is ultra derivative. In a way, Zep's plagiarism of blues artists was proto-sampling - taking lines and motifs of other songs as a basis of something new.
January 1969 Zep comes out. October of 1969 Zep 2 comes out. it was over for Jimi. Pete likes boys, Zep likes chics. Everyone else? jealous. PERIOD.
He couldn't have seen them very much. First year of Zep was just the beginning. Zep was magical
George was so wrong about it. Lack of ability to create ballads? So what about Thank you, Tangerine, That's the Way, Going to California which all came before Rain Song?
Been a Hendrix fan(atic) ever since I first heard Are You Experienced when it was released, read & heard a lot of his I/v’s over the decades & never known Jimi to ‘hate’ anyone… it wasn’t his way at all!
You would want Zeppelin to steal your music. If you have a legal leg to stand on then $$$$$$$$$.
It's about sound and they produced enough of it to get lost in.
My own resistance to listening to Led Zeppelin of my own accord didn't have anything to do with the material itself or whether or not they heavily ripped off other musicians that came before them. It was because their songs were often overly rotated on the air to a point where it became a total cliche when "Stairway to Heaven" never failed to make the top five greatest rock songs of all time. Thinking about George Harrison being critical of them, it's a relief that he didn't apparently criticize them for borrowing from other musicians, something of which all three of he, John Lennon and Paul McCartney were accused themselves.
*Good Artists Copy. Great Artists Steal!*
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great artists steal, but led zeppelin didnt "steal" ideas like everyone does, they literally covered people's songs without giving credit
everyone takes from someone
Jimi didn't hate Zeppelin. He even had their albums.
The thing is they never credited any of the artists they covered or took from. Had it been today they would be been sued. When Jimi covered Dylan or Howlin Wolf, he verbally credited them in shows and everybody knew it was a cover. Zep went deep into old blues that the larger public never heard and packaged it as their own, in their own way. It's a great example of actual cultural appropriation. Personally I love Zep, all top 5 musicians in their categories and their music stands the test of time. I personally think it is a gift to the blues that their lyrics and tunes live on thru the most popular rock band ever, but I could also see how they might be turning in their graves, and it makes sense how someone as original as Hendrix would be off put by this strategy. There's a fine subjective line between plagiarism and homage, but Zep left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths who knew the music they were inspired by for that reason.
As X went on …..Jimmi would have LOVED what they Propagated‼️
False, from what I understand, Jimi and Jimmy only met real briefly, with no conversation together for whatever reason, i dont think Jimi really listened to Zeppelin for an honest opinion, Jimi wasn't into criticism of other musicians, so not true
True
From everything I’ve read jimi never had a bad word to say about anyone.
He called Noel Redding "Bob Dylan's grandmother" and Mitch Mitchell "Queen Bee" on stage!
You're trying to make something out of nothing here. I guess it would be understandable if - _if_ - Hendrix thought they were unoriginal. Of course the blues material Zep did in their early days would have appeared quite differently to them, as white Brits, than it did to Hendrix. And maybe he was a little worried by them as rivals. But in any case they were only just getting going when he died, and were an entirely different musical entity - any resemblance is only superficial.
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Just like Pete Townshend, Jack Bruce (who I admire very much), Ginger Baker and now Jimi Hendrix, I think they all have 1 thing in common towards Led Zeppelin and it's plain old fashioned JEALOUSY! Get over it and work on your OWN material you cry babies.
In the early records, Zeppelin was very derivative and pretty much stealing songs from blues and folk sources. They were already good, but they really peaked at the 4th album in 71 and by then, Hendrix had already passed away. So his opinion doesnt really matter, he never witnessed their peak of songs like stairway, levee breaks, Rain song, Kashmir, Ten years gone, song remains the same, and many others
@@frankkkbard0n315 : I understand BUT almost all the greats (Borrowed) from these great blues guitarists from the south and from the Roaring 20's, 30's and so forth. But you said the magic sentence "They were already good" but AMAZING when Zep was awarded the winner of that over the Beatles Melody Maker Poll Awards in 1970 September 16, I believe. That must have annoyed and amazed many readers and bands.
They stole most of their songs
@@karsteinmartinsen489 The songs were merely vehicles for their talent. Whole Lotta Love blew up. Why? Because the talent of the band and the engineering of Kramer/Page. If you complain about some mundane lyrics in that song you are really nit picking. What Page did with that song was ahead of it's time. Jeff Beck is forgotten compared to Zeppelin. He had his chance to be big but blew it. His early albums sound lousy. I'm not referring to the songs or talent of the band itself but the Truth album should've never been released as it was. It needed to be worked over and maybe even re recorded. Page would've never allowed a sub par sounding album to be released. Whoever engineered that butchered it. It's crap that I can't listen to because it sounds like an amateur produced it.
The thing is they never credited any of the artists they covered or took from. Had it been today they would be been sued. When Jimi covered Dylan or Howlin Wolf, he verbally credited them in shows and everybody knew it was a cover. Zep went deep into old blues that the larger public never heard and packaged it as their own, in their own way. It's a great example of actual cultural appropriation. Personally I love Zep, all top 5 musicians in their categories and their music stands the test of time. I personally think it is a gift to the blues that their lyrics and tunes live on thru the most popular rock band ever, but I could also see how they might be turning in their graves, and it makes sense how someone as original as Hendrix would be off put by this strategy. There's a fine subjective line between plagiarism and homage, but Zep left a sour taste in a lot of peoples mouths who knew the music they were inspired by for that reason.
George Harrison later became a fan of zep,he went backstage to a lot of shows during 74/75
Can we just mention just how crappy a singer Robert Plant's warbles are? Coming up, I generally found him unlistenable. In school, I also couldn't stand the idiot stoner/alcoholic crowd who worshipped the band. Oh, and as a professional guitarist, I always found Jimmy Page's work to be sloppy AF. Only in adulthood would I come to appreciate them a bit more. In our late '20s, my twin brother (professional drummer) bought Led Zepplin II on CD. I was able to listen to this recording after college in adulthood without my previous biases. I enjoyed it much more than I thought would. On more critical analysis and reflection over the years, I have come to realize that the positive impact mainly comes from "the kitchen". It is John Paul Jones and John Bonham that truly made them ever sound good for the most part. Robert Plant's caterwauling is still unattractive for te most part, let alone his outsized arrogance. Jimmy Page's pouncey guitar work and his way outsized arrogance also remain irritating AF. He too suffers from misplaced arrogance. Gah...
Sloppy? Are you talking about albums or live? If it's off the album it's intentional. You realize Page took a big role in the production of the albums and being a studio musician early on he was quite keen about all the sounds in the recording process; not just guitar.
I can understand your view on Plant. I don't have a problem with that. Many great bands also have that. For example, a pro guitarist I knew hated Rush because of Geddy Lee's voice. But he was also a fan of Jimmy Page as other top notch players I knew.
Put in context for it's time period I'd say Zeppelin 2 was a monumental achievement for the band and probably ranks well in all time consideration.
Quit whining like a little baby. Billions of fans disagree with you. Your opinion is invalid and wrong. Go back to listening to your ARCHIES collection.
You're an idiot!
Robert blew out his voice by 1973. He was a great singer but he wasn't professionally trained and had poor technique
They didn't steal anything. It was Jimmy Page as the undisputed leader of the band that stole..
With a history in the music business I don't understand why Jimmy Page 'stole' songs. I really don't get it. Give the artist the credit he owns.
@@LenQuerido if you don't credit the original writer of the song, even though the arrangements have been changed you still need to credit the original. Other rock and roll acts did and still do what Zeppelin did but for some reason only Led Zeppelin gets trashed for it.
Correction : it was Robert Plant who took lyrics and mixed them into his own.
Page had zero interest in lyrics.
If you're going to accuse, at least be accurate about it.
And by the way, Zeppelin credited Dixon for both his songs on their debut album. They also correctly credited "Chester Burnett" for The Lemon Song on LZ II on all the early UK editions.
If you don't know who Burnett is, then perhaps you shouldn't even be talking about this at all.
Plus Zeppelin was only doing what their blues counterparts had already been doing for several decades.
Dixon and Howlin' Wolf and others were bigger thieves of others' music. This was just a blues-era pattern that was well known and when it comes right down to it, these old American blues artists stole so often from each other that no one really knows who wrote what exactly. By the late 60's, it became quite difficult to know which thief to credid for any given song.
To be really honest, we are talking blues lyrics here. Some of the most basic, over-used and simplistic blues tropes that ever were - not bloody Shakespeare sonnets.
Plant has stated often in the media - "It was a nick. Happily paid for."
So there you are. These things never even made it into a courtroom (other than Stairway) and happily paid these guys millions for the use of their lyrics. AGES AGO.
So get over it and stop beating a dead horse.
@@MJEvermore853 Right you are! Thank you.
Jealous jealous jealous
And fk the scap crap Beatles that pre weed acid introduced from Garcia bubble gum garbage Beatles and jimi total overrated garbage