A Dignified End - Holland
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- January 2007
Obbe Terpstra is 86. He has no terminal illness but his quality of life is deteriorating, he wants to die in a dignified way. This exclusive report follows him as he prepares to commit suicide.
"I want to die. I am not allowed but I want to", states Obbe Terpstra. He watched his wife die of cancer and doesn't want to end up like that. But helping someone commit suicide is a criminal offence. His son, Albert, knows of his plans but hasn't been involved with the preparations. "He doesn't want us to see him as a drooling old man. He wants us to remember him as he is now." A month later, Obbe swallows barbiturates. "He was extremely happy. The atmosphere was like a birthday party", recalls Albert. By sharing their story, Albert and Obbe hope they will re-open the debate on euthanasia.
We put our animals to sleep so they don’t suffer but we force elderly to end in pain.
If he wants die, let him die. His life, his body, his death.
+Soraia Borges-Heath Who's preventing him?
+Johanna040713. Hey Johanna you have a lovely name that's my name also
+Johanna040713 Presuming that's a serious question: Taking one's own life is not easy, especially now that several governments try to remove common painless suicide methods.
Being Dutch myself, and having a lot of experience in this subject, I can tell you our country is not as progressive as it appears to outsiders. It's all theory, not practice.
Obbe had to either do it himself, with all the research, preparation and possible legal repercussions that entails, or wait indefinitely, hoping for release. Considering his condition, the latter wasn't an option.
And Obbe is one of hundreds of thousands in our generation. Considering you're on the internet, I'd say the same goes for your country.
People who have nothing to live for, who have lost everything, who simply do not want to be a part of this wretched evil and vile world, should be allowed to die with dignity!!
Peter: I agree with all you said. If a person wants and needs, for whatever reason, to die, they should have that right. This world is wretchedly evil and vile and someone who wants to die with dignity should have that right. It is no one's business, but the person involved.
Peter Turley so true power and money rule on this planet when one is no longer economically viable we get tossed the way like we were nothing.
We dont choose to come I to this world.we should be allowed to exit when we want.
He'd be almost 100 now. He probably wouldn't be alive now anyway. RIP Obbe. His choice. It's between him and his God. Not politicians or cops.
We human beings have free will which must be respected by others. If this is the time to be selfish and only think about yourself, DO IT.
I'd have worded that differently, but you're right. When another person denies you something, claiming it's for your own wellbeing, which you need to improve your quality of life (in this case from horrible to non-existent), you can bet they're full of shit.
That, is the true face of selfishness: To cling to ideas when you can plainly see they cause suffering.
Forese83
Selfish????
People like you are disgusting!
People who say suicide is selfish don't have a clue!
You never suffered enough to feel you are a burden on your loved ones and on yourself!
You never had a pain that made you think everyone will be better off with you been gone!
You have no idea about the subject yet it's very easy for you to make a judgement because you are very complete and righteous!
Someone is suffering to the extent that made him take his or her own life and you think this is selfish??
You are the selfish one idiot because you don't care about what they're going through! You just want them to stick around because it makes you feel good!
My godness you and people like you who make life uglier than it already is!
M17
I agree with you.
I watched my dad die everyday.for months in severe pain. Not being able to eat drink or even breathe. I wish he could have done what he wanted and die with dignity when he wasnt in extreme pain and could have avoided dying a miserable painful death from lung cancer.
My name is Emma and I'm using my late mum's & I respect people like this...I want to move somewhere I can die with my cats by my side & pass away with my dignity....I have multiple Sclerosis and I'm sick of my health declining......Today is my worst day...I'm in sooo much pain and anything I do my body hurts me...I'm only 33 years old & I know in my heart I'm ready to go
This is the way I want to die. I keep myself alive out of love for my parents. I am frustrated... I think friends and family should be more accepting. Do they want me to suffer, and suffer, and suffer, just so they do not have to be sad? I feel it is almost selfish on their part, and I remain trapped by life!
I smell a rat.
Haha, I hope you are genuine. But, it seems like you are trying to bait people into giving away personal info or incriminating themselves.
Terry Clemens life is surfer what do u think what is in that grave try n think now no one il b thr in dark ur soul il listen world enjoing thats it no more coming back.plz dont try that its a sin.
Terry Clemens you’re a good person for living for other people. Especially your parents.
You English is poor and you are not making sense. Assisted suicide is no sin - forcing someone to abide by your draconian views of life, is definitely a sin.
God Bless this lovely Man and his lovely family and the HIGHEST RESPECT to him for making the decision to end his life "HIS WAY "
NO ONE has the right to argue with this Man's decision or any one else's to end their life..We all own our own live's which is thank God called FREEDOM.. xxx
You choose your path in life,why cant you choose your end without such controversy?
There are many things right in front of your faces that you do not see. I am very sad for you all that don't respect life. It is the greatest gift a man can receive.
Respect
His choice
His right
There comes a time when we must all recognise what we have become .
We have the right to determine when and how it should all end .
It is nobody else's business but ours .
Humans are living as if no death and conveniently avoid talking openly about it.
This human has taken the right decision and a big salute.
Hospitals can do nothing beyond certain point, it's just prolonging the suffering.
People always mistake suicide with euthanasia. It's very different. Euthanasia is ONLY for people who are either incurably ill and are either waiting to die (a painful death) or for people who aren't going to die of the illness, but are so old that everyone they love is already dead or moved on in their life and/or he isn't able to do anything he loves because of his illness/handicap. Euthanasia you commit together and in peace.
0:39 I love that portrait of him. He was a very good-looking man.
I have a lot of respect for this brave old man.
Suicide is a sin in Islam and Christianity, it is against God and this old man is not brave he is a coward. God give you life you can't take your life with your hands. Suicide is a Sin.. Sin..Sin
@Guadalupe1130 i disagree with you
the man enjoyed an entire lifetime of vision and beauty, and once that was lost he did not enjoy life and didn't want to spend the remainder of it just waiting to die
he wanted to go in a dignified fashion
people who are born blind never get the gift of seeing the world, therefor they do not know what they are missing. they can enjoy life in a different way, never having sight to begin with.
Did he stockpile his prescription over time or what? Cuz he couldn't involve doctor or anyone else, so....
So brave...deep respect.
as long as you don't force or threat other people to do the same, you are fine believing that.
Anyone who argues in favor of needless suffering must be medically and psychologically checked for illness. Anyone who does not recognize the dignity and gift of not having to suffer poinlessly is poorly guided and uneducated. Please seek help and counseling.
Spending most of your day looking for something you had in your hands just minutes ago sucks. Spending the rest of the day trivialities of engaging with this dimension gets tiresome. If it weren't for people telling me that they need me and engaging subjects on CZcams, I'd be out of here.
this interviewer was I'll suited for this particular interview. their personal feelings shine through and they continually poke and prod the man for ways to change his mind about it. that's not helpful at this point. his mind was already made up....now he wants to share why so as to help promote his views. that's what the interviewer should've focused on.
@Guadalupe1130 Those people are younger people. This is different. This is about dying with dignity. And it's not for you to decide who should and shouldn't do that.
I believe in this. However, it would have really hurt me if my grandfather/grandmother did this.
I thought euthanasia was legal in Netherlands. Did he just not fall into the legal protocol for it?
Yep, he was not "terminally ill".
You can have euthenesia in Belgium when you are not terminally ill.
Would this not have been permitted under the Netherlands ruling Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide (Review Procedures) Act?
You still need the help of a doctor and if your regular doctor doesn't see it your way, than you are screwed. As long as the doctor thinks your life is not unbearable he will not help you.
Have you ever been really old and going blind? oh, and your wife has died? you can really comment til you've been there. I'm in my thirties, and If I went blind, I'd be gone by next week
We moeten van alles maar mogen niet zelf kiezen om te sterven 😢😢
Your body is your own no one has control on your owns
lol. so you are saying that by taking "special" vitamins will counteract blindness in general. I seriously doubt that is the case. im not familiar with theese "special vitamins" so i cant say they have no effect at all. but to say that they -will- restore your eysight, are an overstatement.
Is it wise selfishness, or unwise selfishness?
Nobody gave you your life! Why would anybody have the right to tell you what to do with it or when or how it's suppose to end?
Don't say your parents gave you life, they didn't! They just fucked and you were the result! They didn't chose you and you didn't chose them! It was just a coincidence.
Don't say God! Because I don't owe him anything "if he did exist!". In fact if he existed we can argue that he is the one that owe us an explanation and an apology for this misery that we didn't chose and we didn't have a say in it!
And for you happy people out there, congratulations! You were lucky! Enjoy it but don't tell us we should stay here just because it makes you feel fortunate and righteous.
That's your religion. Not everybody will share your opinion. I appreciate and respect what you believe, but realise that not everybody is as "enlightened" as you are. In the end, everybody seeks happiness.
Rest in peace x
RIP....xxx
sorry but why speak english in a dutch documentary ?? I want to listen in dutch and it is a dutch documentary !!!! make your own over there.
Watching my wife die a painful death she didn't have this option needless non atop tests when doctors know the outcome a nurse told me on the side after many questions she told me her quality ofife is gone my prolong her life anymore bot
Blindness also isn't a cause for an option of euthanasia either.
The decision is up to the one going blind.
k0smon he should not yet resort to uthanasia on account of his imminent blindness. let him first experience how it is when one loses his sight. who knows, he might find it easy to cope.
+luis de la rosa It is HIS choice, not anyone else's. It is his body and his experience. You have a right to your (minority) opinion but you do not have the right to try to force it on others, especially not in the case of voluntary euthanasia (VE) or physician aid-in/assistance-in dying (PAD)!
+luis de la rosa One of the problems when assisted suicide is illegal, is that the person wishing to leave cannot take the chance of "easy to cope," or waiting till he can no longer accomplish the act himself.
Is that youre opinien?
You're right he's valuable. You're devalueing him by devalueing his decision.
Personally if I had his disease Id try to get that machine Steven Hawkings uses instead of dying. Then he could still talk using that machine. But thats his decision not mine.
I have a lot respect for my father, he has an illness that is making him blind , he is 70 % blind but yet he is the happiest man in the world
Image And Art And if he was not you would hate him and not RESPECT HIM?
Image And Art
What a stupid comment!
You are lucky to have such a stupid brain and diluted vision of life!
I do believe in the right to die however, I don't think blindness should even be considered. That is just a fear of what might happen and not what he could do to make the situation better as it progresses. The blind work, play and survive.
No you dont unless it under your terms. How dare you attempt to decide what kind of suffering is enough or who should be forced to live with it.
I know. But it sounds like this guy was really suffering.
I think that you need to educate yourself about the abuses of euthanasia in this country and elsewhere. I would like to know upon what info you base the idea that "not many people use it." well, of course not, because in respect to oregon's entire population, not that many people are that sick.
I don't involve myself in any way with any superstition. Basically I wouldn't put myself in any of the categories of religion, but I bet other people would put me in the atheist one.
hey what religion are you?
Not all of us are about to die. Of course it would be illegal to those who had their wife divorce them or stupid shit. This is just for people who ARE ALREADY ABOUT TO DIE.
Actually that's not true. Belgium euthanizes for mental illness as young as 24 yo.
Come on, we don't just go around killing off everyone who claims he wants to die..
I know this is an old video, but for people like him who are still alive. Please help the suffering, don't kill them!
Sorry.. Life
@nymusnymus85 Well, yeah, as it should be. I was just wondering why he wasn't able to get it done.
I’m usually very liberal on this subject, but assisted suicide due to one going blind only?
Only.
In my opinion,it's not up to us how or when we are to die.I think suicide is a selfshish act. But i don't see this man the same way i've seen people suffering in the nursing home. he's not suffering from pain physical pain. but he is suffering because of his disease because he can't do the things he loves. but i think he's being selfish because of his life experience he could be there for his son and grandkids.
He's already dead.
this is fucking sad
Nice name-calling without any evidence to support your little opinion there, kiddo.
its not "MY" religion its how everybody should live, its a lifestyle
I understand their point of view but Jesus didn’t ask the easy way out and he suffered pain beyond our comprehension. It isn’t our choice when we go.
I understand what you are saying, do you also think, when old ones decide to stop eating and drinking, it's also wrong?
IT'S NOT YOUR BUSINESS what someone else chooses to do and affects you in no way.
Re read your bible. He 1st asked for the cup of suffering to be taken away. Thy will be done was resignation to the fact he was going to be executed and god wasnt going to intervene to stop it.
Jesus is a fairytale.
Christian Sympathy
I doubt he is moslim.
Anyone who argues in favor of assisted suicide must be medically and psychologically checked for illness. Anyone who does not recognize the dignity and gift of life is poorly guided and uneducated. Please seek help and counselling.
u should giv him sliping inject when the wake up tell them lord reject u.i dint lik ur choices.lonly thr so money ways to keep hapy.or try this bring kids of refugees 9/10 months let them croll infron of thm in garden sun shine lets c th can chang thr minds
goverment should not allow them taking choices.u v licky to get imigrantes aspacial now giv thm jobs th to make old ppl hapy.n busy exsiceing thm
On the contrary, people have a right to be protected and helped by others. Euthanasia is the easy way out for society, not for the people involved.
This man looks good for 86! But I pity his vision!
life is a gift that we shoud'nt take for granted, he should see it out till the end
Richard Dolan um, it's impossible not to "see it out until the end". We always are alive until "the end". Unless you are arguing for the man in the video, who literally can't see.
What exactly makes you think it's your business?
Me too! my gold fish died and I just cant live with the pain!! Plus they canceled F.R.I.E.N.D.S!! TIME TO END IT ALL!
One tires of those bringing their version of christian beliefs into the matter. Bad enough to be suffering beyond your personal tolerance than to have these finger wagging ass hloes adding to it.
Just because someone suffers, it does not mean they are not valuable. Look at the physically disabled! They suffer more than most people do and for the span of their lives. Most of them love life and learn to deal with the cards they have been given. Assisted suicide (apart from that term not making sense) is barbaric and a devolution. Also, who wants to hear about their elders taking such a sissy way out? Be a man! Suffer through what you have to and do it happy. This is the greatest gift.
Emotional pain isn't enough to be euthanized, neither ethically, nor under dutch law.
:)
:) you're so witty and self assured. I wonder where that self righteousness comes from?... I smell religion
God gives Kife and He takes it Christ suffered and died for us, all because he loves us. God Bless
Shove your Jesus up your ass! Idiot!
Nothing in the Bible specifically says suicide will send you to hell .... there were about 7 people God speaks of that committed suicide , including Paul , judas even possibly Samson
doesnt matter if your muslim or not, theres only one god for all of us, and only one set of rules, and the rules apply to everyone
What a selfish old man