Better Than DeWALT? (Waitley 20V Plus 6Ah Battery)
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Project Farm tested these as the best knock off if I remember correctly
I have used waitley batteries for several years and have not one failure. Two are over 4 years old and use daily
Would always recommend opening up batteries to see what cells are in them.
Yes, Please. Are they generic Chinese or a name brand Japanese or Korean?
The electronics matter also. Charge control is a big issue related to the longevity of the batteries.
My Waitley for M12 has never let me down.Nothing heavy duty, just DIY stuff
I have some of them 7AH batteries. They don't quite last as long as Dewalt. but are close. For drills and week whackers, polesaw they work just fine. Have not had a problem leaving them on the charger. Had for 2 years now
I have a Waitley battery and never had a problem with it, I had it for about 2 1/2 years, and works ok for my Makita impact driver and works just fine. Not like the one you have but it does the job for me. Thanks for the video. God Bless, Take caređ
They're great if you work in a shop where you use a shared charge bay and your coworkers are really good about always reclaiming their new-ish batteries but less good about remembering which one is theirs when it's an older one that's losing capacity, or if they're company tools that might get 'borrowed' by a coworker and come back almost immediately with a different (and nearly dead) battery. Nobody steals (erm, "accidentally takes") knockoffs, even brand spanking new ones. For the same reason, they're also good for battery-powered equipment that may be placed somewhere where access isn't controlled and batteries can just walk off (they still get stolen occasionally, thieves apparently gotta learn that pawn shops won't touch them the hard way).
And, as someone who's used them (specifically Waitley, though the Team Red version) in a professional work environment... They're half the price for a reason. Like he said, they're OK for low-draw tools, and you can use them in a pinch for 'core tools', they're not as good at high draw tools (seriously, do not attempt a knockoff in anything recommending a 8+ AH battery), and capacity falls off faster when you get a lot of charge cycles on them. A problem with knockoffs in general is that the actual cells are inside are a crapshoot (they may be name-brand that hit ratings exactly, they may be no-brands with mildly optimistic ratings, they may be fake name-brand shrinkwrap over no-brand cells with wildly exaggerated capacity claims), which is eternally a problem with anyone who doesn't have the volume to escape the secondary market (and I have no idea if Waitley has the volume to do that).
I'm not saying they're bad, I'm not saying they're good, I'm saying you need to recognize that it's a different product at a different price point than the OEM one, and you need to figure out the value proposition as it applies to your needs. I have a couple of them, I'm happy with them for what I use them for, I'll probably replace them when they wear out, and I have no problem recommending them to anyone who understands what they're getting... and I can say the same thing for my OEM ones, which I use for different things.
Tool to battery: Scotty, I need impulse NOW! Battery to tool: Captain, I'm giving all she's got, but me puir cells canna take much more!
Jeff, I'm in the Skil PwrCore 12v line as well, and I have the SAME problem with my wife and daughter taking my Skil batteries to use them as piwer banks. My wife actually regularly carries one in her purse! đ
Copies will never beat oem, but if you hammer batteries then it might be good economy
Agree, great for non-core tools. I look at it the same way for regular batteries.... Harbor Freight "Thunderbolt" AA's for my TV remote, Energizer Lithium or Duracell for important/heavy-use stuff.
Exactly.
You can use "dead" batteries for TV remotes and get several extra months out of them. I never throw away AAs or AAAs until they've died in a remote.
@@denoftoolsanyone have the leaked 10 days of deals add from Harbor Freight ? đ
I have a waitley 6ah going about 2 years now alongside my dewalt batteries. Itâs been dependable for small draw tools but runs out of juice quickly on something like a circular saw or a grinder.
Build quality is decent, but a little weak.
Waitley runs about 85 percent of stated ah they get a little warmer on the charge
Not bad IMO considering they're like half price of Dewalts, so for the dollar you're getting 2 Waitleys to 1 Dewalt, 85% times 2 = 170% of battery for the same dollar to dollar ratio
I have some waitley batteries ,and for the price they have serverd me well, only fail i had with one was using a grinder for a long period of time, andbi wouldnt even say fail it just drained pretty quick, i dont have the newer version either so cannot comment on them, soild batteries for the price and when i can get 2 for the price of 1 it is kinda a no brainer if you are looking for extra batteries, i have my array of dewalt batteries also and i am a construction worker and use my tools pretty hard and really dont want to have to take out a 2nd mortgage just for batteries lol.
These are good for dewalt radio, flashlights, job site lights or heated jackets
This is why I sub to this channel , because I get comprehensive info on the product. Yes me buy these dewalt clone batteries. đ»đ
Good review!
i have 4 of these batteries..used them for over a year now..i use them om my impacts and drill..no problems so far and have an adapter and use them on my bauer leaf blower..
I have bought 2 Waitley batteries for my M12 drill and for what I have used them for I have had no issues at all. I mean maybe if you use these batteries hard then you might find some issues but for the basic use I am very happy with them.
If youâre going to go knock of tiu might as well get the new CEENR battery system, has a battery for every brand.
I have a waitley battery and it's worked great.
Thanks for the great review, Jeff! I'd probably buy the Waitley batteries for extras.I don't really know. I don't have any high dollar Dewalt tools. I
have an old 14.4V drill/driver,
but that's all. I also have a
Porter Cable drill/driver and impact, but everything else is corded except my chainsaw. I bought an EGO saw and love it. I often wonder about tests like this because you don't know what the structure inside is. Is it really a fair test? There could be hidden knots, etc. But steel can vary from spot to spot, so who knows? Still a great review! đđđđđâ€â€â€â€â€
Iâm always concerned about them catching fire.
I've been running 2 Waitley batteries for about a year and have no problems with them. I'm about to buy 2 more batteries and they will again be Waitley.
No thank you. Bought knock-off batteries once, worked ok in the beginning, but after a year, they couldnât hold a charge. Opened it up, contains cheap battery cells. Fool me once, shame on me. Will not make that mistake again, unless I know for sure the battery cells are made by Samsung.
Were they Waitey? Did you research which generic battery was the best?
bought 4 so far just for jokes : 9ah m12, flexvolt 9ah , 6ah craftsman, night buddy 2 strip COB headlamps
good so far
While during this review did the company provide you with their liability insurance policy for you to check on it?
Flexvolt is especially tricky due to electronics. As Jeff said, if battery doesnât have the ability to âtalkâ to the tool, performance will be subpar and / or battery will get damaged.
Itâs really worth a shot to contact the seller. A lot of times they will replace the battery since itâs already a cheap to replace and to avoid a negative review
My experience with using "knock-offs" with a blower, vacuum, or reciprocating saw is that they get hot quick and the power quickly fades. They'll run an impact, drill, oscillating tool or a lamp a long time.
Would use a slower charger on them
Just killed a noname amazon knockoff with a dbcl1722 blower. Pulled amps and guessing popped caps on the cells. Like was said, good for the drills and like, be careful with high draw.
You should have used the fan to cool the camera...lol
I have Waitley for my M12, been good for about 2yrs
don't have any in the DeWalt line, because well don't have any DeWalt line
Do they make batteries for other brands? I was considering a power inverter to charge my batteries while I'm on the road specifically at the junkyard where I might want to use a recip saw. USB in would be a game changer
Would you be able to use those for Dewalt chain saws?
Are they 18650, 21700, or stacked lithium?
I've not used this brand of battery, nor do I own DeWalt tools. But I've been using both expensive OEM batteries and cheap clones since before my kids were born, starting with putting Kyocera (unknown-ish at the time) batteries into an 8mm Sony camcorder that I remember using in 1986 when building a house, and in 1988 when my twins were babies.
If I'd bought only genuine Sony, Nikon, Canon, and Panasonic Lumix batteries as all the hundreds of camera batteries I've used since then, I'd be writing this from the poor house. Or I'd have had to not buy between 4 and 20 clone batteries for each camera that I buy, as one of the first things I do when I get a new camera. I've toned that down to about 4-6 spares, since USB battery banks (plus now LiFePO4 power stations) came into my life and I get a USB charger along with those clone batteries as the first thing I do.
As a homeowner, I am always stunned that under the tonneau covers of 95% of contractor pickups, there might be 50 genuine OEM batteries and 0 clones. While they view it as a cost of doing business, and a professional image thing. To me, it is the reverse. All costs get passed on to the customer, and I know that they could spend a lot less on the batteries they use to do things on my job, with no effect on the quality of work.
Camera makers made one mistake relative to tool makers, they made the batteries internal, and they made them black rather than a brand color. No wedding party is looking for a red battery or a yellow battery as a sign of the equipment being 100% top-level professional. But pro photographers wouldn't stand for that. For over 50 years, they have paid extra for anonymous, black cameras, versus standard chrome-trimmed cameras, though eventually Canon did buck that trend and make their light-colored cameras a branding thing, and Hasselblad sort of bucked the trend by mostly selling chromed cameras.
I know they are cheap, compared to other brands, but are there other batteries that are compatible with the Bauer tools?
It would be interesting to see if they are using LG or Samsung batteries or if they're no-name... if the former, I'd be a little less cpncerned about the unattended charging.
How about those battery adaptors? I'm heavily invested in Hercules Batteries at this point, and because of the recent deals, I have Hercules batteries and chargers galore. But it would be very appealing to leverage my Hercules batteries on my older Dewalt stuff. It would also be nice to dip into Milwaukee if there was a tool in that line that I wanted. Why shop outside of the Hercules family? no Jigsaw in the Hercules 20v line, so I might have to step out of the blue for that purchase. Adaptors between various battery types seem to abound, but I'm not sure about their quality and many look 3d printed....never seen a trusted review on these.
Thanks for being truthful and honest. It's rare nowadays. I would know: it's the reason why I'm so hated đ
You're going to basically be driving into 2x4 up to 6x6 timber lag screws your not driving screws or bolts into tree stumps
I have more respect when manufacturers stand behind their products, like Ridgid with their LSA. What warranty comes with these?
I've personally had good luck with after market batteries for my Makita tools (mostly drill and impact). Sure they don't give quite the power but 80% of the power for 50% of the price is a decent deal. I always start the day with my OEM battery and then use the after market ones after that one dies.
That's a good way to kill your OEM batteries first. Me, I rotate them around so they all get discharged and charged about equally rather then fall into disuse when not using them hard every day. When using them hard every day, the clones go first, to make sure the OEM ones get some days off and last as long as possible before hitting 500 cycles and beginning their inevitable decline.
Do they make ones for Flex
It's funny they advertise these ones as "real 6Ah", as opposed to a cheaper version they sell that doesn't have the USB ports and presumably is not a "real" 6Ah lol. But then these are obviously not "real 6Ah" either, at what looks to be about 4.75Ah. So I assume the cheaper ones are probably more like 4Ah tops? That said at least the ones with the USB are *nearly* 5Ah and have USB ports which support PD and QC--probably worth it just for that as the DeWalt USB-C adapter is nearly $100 on its own (granted that can also charge the battery). Also unlike DeWalt who basically forces you to buy a 2pk of most of their batteries (the single batteries are typically insanely priced), these Waitely are available as singles with no price penalty.
Even name brand ones can catch on fire, granted them m18 batteries were used in an industrial environment being used all day by 3 shifts.
I will buy one as my dewalt need replaced
Would an XR brad Nailer be considered a core tool? I would consider them for that and not the Impact guns.
No, that would be a tertiary tool. They are also not terrible power hungry like say a sander or router.
Every time i see these batteries, its a sort of a toss up. The Waitleys are some of the better ones so i have heard. The knockoffs are still usually not great and almost always lie about run time. Theres no way that battery is an actual 6ah, clearly made with 18650s, and the size of a standard 5ah. However, for someone with enout tools, i could see them being good spares, or batteries to keep on like a radio, or a light, something small and low draw.
Cheap batteries just can't take the number of cycles as the brand name.
About a year & 1/2 ago I bought 10 new dewalt batteries in the wrapper & 4 out of 10 would hold a charge that was all I needed to see I have several dewalt tools & had 2 batteries for each now I buy hercules
Bullshit
"codes". There are no codes. DeWalt 20V is analog. There is a thermistor pin to detect over temperature. There is an ID pin that is a resistor to ground, that identifies the capacity of the pack. And the C1,C2,C3, and C4 pins are just the taps between cells.
Milwaukee is a different story.
Project Farm where are you?
Need to see what cells are inside. Dewalt uses good cells. Can you charge these on a Dewalt charger
I charged them using my Dewalt charger. In fact, I tried two different chargers.
Battery Wars...
do they charge ok on a DeWalt fast charger?
I tried it on two different to all chargers and didnât have a problem. Also charged on USB and that worked as well.
Does the DeWalt charger stop blinking when the battery is fully charged?
Yep
I have (2) of the older "6 AH" version of these (before they had the USB ports). I would agree with the older versions that although labeled 6 AH they are probably pretty close to a Dewalt 5 AH. I know your question was if the charger stops blinking. My older-style Waitley's have a push button with digital display that shows bery percentage from 0 to 100% (not multiple individual LEDs for the various bar levels). Anyway, as I charge my earlier version 6 AH Waitleys on my Dewalt DCB107 charger, the Wailey percentage hits 100 and the Dewalt charger keeps charging (keeps blinking) for quite some time. I'd say in most instances 30 minutes or more the Dewalt charger keeps appearing to charge it. I've wondered in this scenario if I should trust the Waitley percentage monitor or the Dewalt battery charger. I usually just keep an eye on it and remove it sometime after the percentage hits 100% and before the Dewalt charger stops blinking. I guess it's better to under-charge than over-charge a battery.
Open it up please! I want to see the cells. Battery amp ratings are notoriously over stated.
3rd Party Batteries are catching up fast. Competition is great !
This is a smart idea. If you donât want to buy the real brand battery. But I still would get the dewalt battery. If you have a cheap tool you do not Like. Over this is a pass. These battery maybe can explode. But just go with the dewalt battery.
knockoffs do crack when dropped !
That battery is actually a 5 amp not a 6
wow..however, I watched the video test review of this product on Amazon. there is no doubt that it shows 6amp.đ€Łđ€Ł
They work
Even based on your experience, you are getting around 10 Ah between the two for $80. The Dewalt, a 5Ah battery, costs $66.54, or 2 for $133.08, which is still 66% more expensive. So, it is obviously a deal. The real test is that of time..... will the generic battery's lifespan last as long as the Dewalt battery's? Many of the generic batteries, I have purchased in the past, have often displayed much shorter lifespans, so you could end up looking for replacement batteries a lot sooner than if you just purchased the Dewalt batteries instead. Who knows? ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
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