American Decline: Global Power in the 21st Century
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2015
- Ahead of the LSE North America Forum in New York City, LSE Professors Michael Cox, Danny Quah, and Peter Trubowitz discuss the future of American power in the changing world order.
For more information on the LSE Global Forum, see:
alumni.lse.ac.uk/GlobalForumNY
5 years later.... We are even further divided
Well, this aged well.
And then Evergrande happened 🇨🇳
@@YizhouRong evergrande will affect all of us, just like 2008
@@jordie4423 Evergrande? Silicon valley bank ring a bell now? Credit Suisse? Ha ha ha
2015: "america is divided along partisan lines"
2020: hold my lysol
This comment is 7 months old and the division that exists now is drastically higher than even when you commented this. kinda makes you think about how crazy things might be 7 months from now.
US is a sad show man, civilians are being played by their shady government schemes
2021: Evergrande 🇨🇳
2026 : Do you like CHiNESE FOOD AND VEGETABLE EGG ROLLS?
@@sigfridofajardo5430 We rarely eat vegetable egg rolls, btw, it's called spring rolls in China.
A country divided, with a declining ability to provide material or meaningful spiritual values for any but the very wealthiest. That is the recipe for America's failure.
@@777dragonborn Agreed. Economic prosperity here is unmatched for even our middle class. Some people just don't appreciate how well we live.
@@777dragonborn You do realize a Republic is 90% of the times a democracy as well, right?
A republic is simply a state with an elected PRESIDENT, unlike a monarchy which has a HEREDITARY KING or QUEEN.
Most republics and monarchies today are DEMOCRATIC, meaning people have the right to vote some assholes from a political party to represent (hence the representative part) them in different state institutions like the Parliament or the Government.
I'm sorry but if you can't even understand basic things like this, maybe you shouldn't be talking about criminals in Washington.
Eff America.
most of america infrastructure is stuck in the 20th century except the elite they live in a more modern world 21 st century
You reap what you sow.
Always in all ways.
Uneducated, Rscist, Inbred, Peak oil, Climate Change Denying Country
@@NashHinton its a country founded in sin.
@@roberthoffenheim7861 What sin?
@@NashHinton twin sins of Native American genocide and African slavery
@@NashHinton no, but okay
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
the elites are the ones dividing. Just accelerating revolt
@@NashHinton yup revolution coming
deeply divided in 2015? wait till they see whats happening in 2017
2020
finback2005 2019 china has influence in southeast asia. even the poor can feel it right now. no doubt china is world power right now, sry for my bad english
finback2005 civil war and balkanization
*enter 2018*
God blesses american nation for what it stands justice for all with cash
Ha ha ha ha go 🇺🇸
America will be remembered as The Rome of 20th Century
Rome had a culture. The US doesn't. For me they are more like the Mongolian Empire.
@Avra Talukdar It was dominant. Not anymore.
can't compare USA to any Empire 😂😂😂😂
@@rotemplatino91 how dare you compare those two. Don't disrespect the Mongolian Empire.
@@erozionzeall6371 its the truth. Just like Alexander's or Charlamagne's Empires, it didn't last long. Such as the US Empire.
6:13 RIP Taiwan
Actually china never both them to go
@Bardo Pasquim when usa decline,china having a smooth way control both of that territory
If 2015 looked polarized I would be very curious to see what they think of 2019 going into 2020.
2083
probably something like quatum mechanics, with so many different " poles ". forgive me for not learning quantum yet, im still learning, but im p sure thats a decent analogy
Here at the end of 2020 lol you have no idea
If 2019 looked polarized I would be very curious to see what you think of 2021.
@@LG-bd2qf I think this country is fucked.
Ironically, it’s our biggest capitalism enterprises (Silicon Valley) that have given us tools to divide ourselves apart like social media platforms. No longer do people surround themselves with a diversity in values. People choose, like, share, and follow content providers that hold similar values. It has placed so many people into a bubble.
Well said
The division is ironically collapsing us.
This was made five years ago. How optimistic it all sounds now. The management of this pandemic has shown the inability of American leadership to put aside partisan politics to deal with a very real global threat. If the country functioned like this in the forties we would have lost WWII. The American people have always wanted to concentrate on their personal lives and leave the global issues to the government. The private citizen has never had much of a voice in these matters anyway. But partisan politics has made for even less interest in government activities. People vote the party line because it's easier. When there are only two parties it's not to far from just one. American politics has attracted the wrong sort of people for all the wrong reasons. To much money is involved, both in elections and the payroll for elected officials. Our government just costs to much. Although it is still the best government money can buy.
"Although it is still the best government money can buy.
"
? My state(and it's residents) are reacting exactly how I want, even better than I expected in many ways in fact.
Seeing the US as a whole is always a failure. The US is a disconnected collective.
Separate yet whole. Just because things seem bad, doesn't mean that is a truth for the majority. Of course the corrupt media is the source of all the perception problems going on right now as well.
The USA is not what it was, now only the top can have a good life. Most of the working class in the USA have no benefits at all, and have to work two or three jobs to survive. Healthcare in the USA is extremely expensive, to the point where so many Americans are not getting health services
America is a shithole
banana republic
6:00 "China doesn't, it seems to me, have a vision of what it means to be a World power..." I find it amazing that an pedagogical statement would look like propaganda only about 6 years later.
China's only vision is: do wahtever it wants after the USA falls, which seems to be very poorly visioned tbf
2020 basically called out everyone's bullshit in this video.
How so?
An empire in decline . Empires last about 250 years . It's got 8 years left.
Well, the Chinese empire lasted a lot longer....
We only became top dog after WWII. We didn't become an empire when we became independent dumbass.
@@TOFKAS01 China was always pretty weak after 250 years. Consisently.
@@TOFKAS01 its split into dynasties, but yeah some lasted longer than 250
Gangnam style is a Korean pop song and Korea is a close American ally - China is yet to prove itself as a cultural powerhouse abroad - its entertainment industry is in its infancy, primarily focused on domestic audiences
That being said, Chinese studios are exerting increasing influence over Hollywood productions and studios are increasingly self-censoring to avoid harming their prospects in the Chinese markets. There are some great videos on that on CZcams, well worth a watch.
Chinese era begins
I doubt that.
Here we are in 2022.
exactly 😂
Yet defeated by Vietnamese rice farmers
2,000,000+ Vietcong died and only 58,000+ American died LOOOOLLL
@@Tikii_9 It is because the war held in Vietnam so their population was more and hence they were easy targets.
Bruh that’s gorilla warfare what’s your logic?
China will not challenge the USA Economically??? .... China's Economy Surpassed the US back in 2014. 😆
Only in PPP up to now USA is still the biggest even though it has the biggest debt entirely
In your dreams
😂😂😂 Look what happened now
Simply awakening points
Could you imagine this being not a decline but a rise of several separate powers that make the world now similar to the world around ww1 with many separate powers there at once.
Your observation is astute. This scenario is exactly what Henry kissenger (he’s still at this) noticed last year and cautioned that the world today is reminiscent of the world pre-ww1 which set the conditions for us to move into subsequent conflict.
Other than china i don't see any other countries capable of rivaling the US in a more or less equal footing.
@@juch3 Well India is on the rise. Africa might get itself on track and Turkey has a lot of potential as well.
What we are witnessing is for the first time in 500 years is a change away European based dominance, specifically that of the English speaking world to China.
That would require most people to learn Chinese. I'd love to see that become common, but I really doubt that's anywhere close to happening. The US is far more stubborn when it comes to language than anyone else in the rest of the world.
And when you set terms in the language you dictate, I have to wonder who has the real power in a conversation.
@@AntiNihilist For the foreseeable future, English will continue be the dominant world language. Here in Holland and just about everywhere in Europe people readily speak English. However there will be a shift of economic and military power away from the west to China. We see this already happening within a lifetime. 1950's China was very different to China today. The 'Anglo' culture has been dominant over the past 400-500 years. First it was Britain, then it changed seamlessly to the USA starting with the events after World War One. No one really noticed because the language and the culture are almost identical. Now, that shift of power is moving to the East and that is becoming more noticable every year.
@@haatpraat2993 not quite true. The english have only been the most powerful European/western country in the 19th century. If you wanna go back 5 hundred years, then France and the Habsburg empire were, at different times.
Who's here after Ukraine invasion and the Saudi Arabia thingy?
Wasteful spending and greedy leaders brings you this.
2020 might level the playing field.
With 2022, it looks evident
The illusion of Absolute Power
Bullys eventaulty loose there power when littel people gang together. Its a slim line they walk and with trrump your looseing any credability you once had in the world.
good analysis..
Scary how true this is in 2022
Petro-Dollar.....?
tick tick tick
NEGAN it's all you have left
Petro-Yuan?
Stupid Country! STUPID Inbred Racist Uneducated Peak Oil denying Country. Eff America. It deserves its collapse for being inbred, racist, and uneducated.
@@NashHinton The US can never make up for what we have done to Amerindians and Black Americans, not to mention overthrowing democratically elected governments around the world and holding the planet hostage under threat of nuclear annihilation for decades. We deserve every horrible thing that is about to happen to us and much, much more.
For 70 years USA is top after 70 years we don't know what will happen
It can come back ?
The best doctors
Welp I'll never understand why there even needs to be a world power. It's always been a recipe for disaster. Why do people love power so much? Why am I the only one who loves helping people? Am I the alien, or are they all aliens?
Being the sole world power is a free outcome of the soviet collapse, staying as the sole power is the expensive part. Some say that a world with only one great power is most peaceful.
We need to get rid of the electoral college so we won’t be stuck in the two party system
Unfortunately too many people are too politically illiterate for that :(
We need to get rid of the idiots running the show.
@@NashHinton that’s right, the Democrats have to go
@@francescogorbechov4192 Hate to break it to you, but they are all idiots. Republicans love corporations and billionaires and unwanted fetuses, Democrats want open borders. The country is a joke.
@@francescogorbechov4192 We need extreme populism that caters to both sides. Like Eco-fascism and Technocracy.
Nothing Lasts Foever
This video was made three years ago.
I wonder what they would say now.
What goes up, must come down. America is a Greece in making!
***** it can't come down when it has the PRC disease to deal with
jeez I was just thinking the exact same thing! Especially with Trump! The Trump effect : your nation will become a humiliation after having a populist leader for the next century or more
I'm afraid even with modern science. You'll never live long enough.
To see America and not the number one power on the planet
More like Rome but whatever.
MaleAdaptor Not Greece i think you mean the romans.
When do we get from...this...to the United Federation?
Just wait, we gotta first get English to be the universal language, then start making space voyaging more of a necessity rather than a pasttime, then use up the rest of our natural resources so we have to rely on nuclear or solar power.
Then we'll be at least going in the right direction.
An entire video of smart men saying not much of anything, and these guys are the go to experts in economics. It makes me think we are in worse shape than I thought.
you are right
Aged like wine
When asked what he thought of Western Civilization Mahatma Gandhi said " I think that would be a good idea."
@Anime 4Lyfe I think he was implying that that the West was not civilized enough to be considered a Civilization. Say what you want about Gandhi, but never let it be said he didn't have.a sense of humour.
Can u explain???
@@yellodread cheeky, but also a very immature pov if he really meant it.
But american population is declining with time that will lead to american decline off course
US National Debt in July 2020: $26,521,548,685,169
Much irrelevant
Thank LSE to tell us that U.S will stay the leader of the world. You are really believable
Outdated... Reagan- > neoliberalism- > corporatocracy -> populism -> accelerated decline
Haha good little communist
@@keysislandhopper4768 Reagan destroyed the country.
Did they just include Taiwan in a map of China?
The all great nation of the U.S.A if it continues down this path will be no more. Greed, corruption and overspending is getting it there.
That's stoped now big don is in comand.
But Greed, corruption, and overspending are the cornerstones of the American government. It wouldn't be so successful if not for those sturdy pillars.
No one is more loyal than when all they care about is improving their own currency.
The peak has passed.
The strongest military in the world.....
....and can't defeat the Taliban in 20 years
Antonio Brown not like other nations can do it much faster than us
Hahahaha......totally destroyed by the Vietnamese.
...decimated by Saddams forces. No cake walk in Iraq.
.....then there's the Taliban.
...the only time the US military prevail is in hollywood.....hahahaha
Antonio Brown
1. We weren't "totally destroyed" by the vietnamese. We actually won most of the battles there, caused more than a million casualties for North Vietnam. The only reason we pulled out was because of politics.
2. The Taliban. Have u even heard of the horse soldiers??? There were only 12 US soldiers, supported by the Northern Alliance yet they inflicted the worst defeat for the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
If you won most of the battles, how come you got your arses kicked.
Antonio Brown Protest at home. Everyone knows this. Riots in the streets. A couple people were shot in a protest against the war at a college campus in California. No one wanted that war.
No manufacturing base = No future
Boeing/Intel/Dell/Caterpillar/Ford/IBM/Exxon/AMD/ect... :)
Innovation > Manufacturing
@@me-hc4bv u are stupid af .... plz dont talk
@@me-hc4bv We're not innovating because contards hate universal education. The division is collapsing us.
if we fall from within, we also will be attacked from without.
bipartisanship is merely a symptom of a deeper malaise and a rather simplistic diagnosis. Corruption, greed, arrogance, materialism and moral bankruptcy are undermining whatever positives that may have ever come out the American experiment in world domination. Btw, the notion that the whole world welcomed American unipolarity is completely preposterous, unless your idea of the world only stretches from LA to Brussels and ignores the rest of the world who ultimately just wants to exert its own sovereignty.
Diversity is our strength! lol
What a stupid comment. All of the highest achievers from around the world come to study and live/work in the US. The ones that return home carry American values back with them. American GDP growth is drastically higher than that of the EU because of the number of Latin American low skill labourers that immigrate.
i see you over there. that island in the distance.
This lecture was 5 years ago long before pandemic! Hope things haven't changed much !!!
It has changed radically. Now the chinese don't want to be American. America has demonstrated that it cannot protect its own people when decisive action and hard decisions need to be made. Anti-Asian sentiment in the US is all time high. This indiscriminate hate against all Asians, Thai, Japanese, Malaysian is off putting to to everyone. So the world has changed,.
@@nickl5658 But we still the most powerful and influential.
@@nickl5658 it didn’t change at all.
America is not a country, it is a continent.
Bert G America is not a continent. North America and South America are continents.
North and South America are both AMERICA. idiot. ever heared of columbus?
AMERICA is and will always remain as empire country
19 trillion dollars in debt America is losing economically
I’m no economist but I’ll take Dick Cheney at his word when he sais “deficits don’t matter”
“deficits don’t matter”
it will crash, you cant just continuously barrow never expected to give back.
And who do they owe that to? Ohh yeah to themselves only 5t is owed to someone else😂😂😂😂😂😂
Terrence Banton Mate, its basic economy. That dept is a normal economical occurrence
Terrence Banton there is no country on earth not in debt the more powerful you get the more debt you will get
I smell a Thucydides trap
With US as Athens ? NATO or UN = Delian League. That suggests that Russia = Persia. Ancient history is fascinating. Of course, some people think Pres. Trump = Cyrus the Great.
Eff America. Eff this inbred, uneducated, racist, global warming denying, peak oil rejecting, illiterate sellout of a country.
@@NashHinton Well said.
so sad, only military really speaks for them since good education comes with high cost and freedom is widely available almost everywhere else in the world :(
In reallity, good education is quite cheap compared with the costs of bad education!
Ism is the best cartoon after the Fuhrer's Face, who agrees?
Oh man, we were so starry eyed and optimistic back in 2015.
*buys Little Red Book off Amazon*
Hey, comrade!
Pff like you would understand what it even means
All Empires fall eventually
Can you stop with that line already. I've heard people say this all the time. We know it went last forever, nothing does. But our empire won't fall in your lifetime. Nor will it fall when your great grand children's lifetime.
America must of looked amazing back then, Pristine with lots of possibilities. At least before It was a stolen from the Mexicans and the native Americans, Have you Looked at it lately, it’s embarrassing. Out of all the things they could have made, they made a shopping mall from west to east from north to south, and every decade the citizens become more self righteous, hateful, poor and divided.
- George Carlin
Wait was us an empire??
Well this didn't age well. Thanks Russia.
Wrong analysis based on faulty data!
Well atleast how can it get worse?
where is Alaska.
Pray for America
funny that quah talks about an east-asian sensibility surrounding music and culture as if japan and south korea have now become Chinese vassal states when not even his paymasters at the Chinese foreign ministry would agree with that
Rocketeer1001 I think it's more of an idea of where political and cultural poles are shifting than anything specific. It's like how people refer to countries with a similar culture to the USA as "the West". Japan and South Korea, whilst being generally USA aligned, do have a lot of ties to China, and to many this might be seen as being a kind of 'gateway' into that shared cultural sphere.
Haven’t they been saying the same things for almost 30 years now but still America is the world leading economy and the largest military and the most advanced military and those saying that the us is declining because of its debt then you should know that most of the debt we owe it to ourselves
A.G.I Will be man's last invention
When the US falls, we’re gonna go into another dark age 😭🗿
Old Europe will always be here to same freedom and democracy!
Old Europe can't deal with Russia on its own now.
Damien Humbert Old Europe caused 2 world wars!!! Old Europe never learned there lesson.
@joseph adel non-sense
@joseph adel Any proof that Americans gave them their souls or you just made it up to satisfy your hatred toward America?
good to see that power is shifting to the east now. a world dominated by a single country would never be desirable.
You make it sound like things would somehow be different once the shift occurs.
Andrew Stupak better than being raped, forced into work camps, starved, beaten etc everyday. Need I say what happened to the Russians during the soviet era?
maybe we should ask Tibet, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Mongolia how they feel about China?
Yeah it's so great that power is shifting to communist china, a dictatorship in every way bar name, it's a joke it's called a republic.
animereich where are you from?
It is close to 21 trillion now!
The United States has 4% of the world population. Will the other 96% allow themselves to be ruled by the small minority in the U.S.? Probably not. That $22 trillion in debt (and rising fast) will be the Achilles' heel of the United States. When interest rates rise a few more % points the service on that debt will amount to a trillion dollars each year. In 2018 the interest on the debt was $415 billion.
USA to ramp😂😂😂😂
Everyone is a Competitor in the world.
China is very much concentrated in Asia and of course will dominant that area, and nobody can change it. This is a reality that the US must accept.
Actually the number one power in Asia is Japan.
It has the fourth largest Army. Anytime desires will have the second in the world.
If they so desire they can build nuclear weapons. Actually when Mao Zedong was in power.
The United States gave Japan material to build nuclear weapons.
Anytime the Japanese decide to build them they could turn them out like Dotson's.
@@hannahblazewick4269 Japan is a small island it doesn't have the resources.
The average Chinese Income is equal to the median US Income. It means that china has a middle class of 400 plus millions and us have a middle class of 165 million. This gents have a very positive idea about USA.
🇺🇸
God bless China 🇨🇳✊✊✊✊
Adolph Hitler would love CCP.
Lol,China don't believe god
@@glendjunuslodoli211 God is allowing China to punish America
@@michaelkranyak4525 Hitler hated Mao Zedong and opposed the Chinese civil war.
China hates God and is an atheistic state.
Why do people say that America has the BIGGEST military? Sure they may have the most advanced in some people's opinions, but get your wording right, it does not have the biggest military.
サイ no it dose
Bugsie He means in terms of number of soldiers
Joakim Kang thank you I thank he could have word it better though
Youre an idiot
It is not big enough for you YET ?
Look at it now...
I’ve never once watched a Chinese movie
Casey Matto same here
Good luck China
US Congress 2023😂😂😂😂
Good review, but Chinese people wanting to be American? That was hilarious.
chinese are hypocrites most of you benefits to the to the american shares of wealth throughout the world
Fang Lei U are beautiful, marry me.
Fang Lei Islam is not taking europe its what we called globalization far from that its nothing new since the medival period and back in centuries ago islam had already launch in europe of previous engagement by the last empires that exist like the ottoman empire,persian, etc
Vic-Chan - I can't speak completely for the man, but I believe he was saying that Chinese people would like to experience a per capita income resembling that of the United States (as opposed to just Purchasing power parity held in the hands of few). Furthermore, I think he was also stipulating in a round-about way that Chinese people would also like to experience democratic freedoms, the right to vote, freedom of assembly etc.
The honest truth is a lot of Chinese people, particularly billionaires/millionaires are leaving the country in droves and/or seeking education/work in Australia, Canada, UK, US...etc. So there is certainly some reality to his statement, I think it's a given Chinese people would like to experience lifestyles reminiscent of America's, with a particularly East-Asian influence of course.
Cultural hegemony is essentially his argument.
what crime and violence? there are 7000 people murdered in the US per year....there are 360 million people here...so less than .01% of the population is murdered...please look up "idiot"
“It became ever more powerful by giving away its power” - I suppose that is one way of looking at things. Maybe. Whether it bears any relation to reality is another matter.
u form alliances and share military resources, so instead of just the US navy you all the militarises of that alliance under ur command. ie nato
guys the usa might be the #1 armie in the world but its still going threw a procces just imagine how powerful the usa will be when its at full power
Full power, you are in a decline. What are you talking about.
@@jeffdeleveaux6375 yep
The most important asset of a country is it’s military. By having a strong military, you can just take over your enemies assets and people!
Well, obviously not. The american military is strong and cant even defeat the Taiban or can guarantee stability in the middle east.Therefore, military strength is the least important thing today.
TOFKAS01 Because it’s hard to identify the enemy when they blend in with the crowd like cowards. It’s not like they’re wearing a military uniform identifying themselves. I’m in the U.S. Army Reserves. When I was at basic training our Drill Sergeants will tell us about how they behave like civilians and strike out of nowhere. Even one of my Drill Sergeants killed a kid! The kid tried to pick up an Ak to shoot my Drill Sergeant. So my Drill Sergeant shot him death. You just don’t know who the enemies are. It can be a kid, an old man, etc. Remember we’re fighting a terrorists group, not a country.
You see it with your posting: Military power is mostly useless today.
TOFKAS01 Useless? The only reason no World war has broken out since WW2 is because of how powerful military nations are now. They know if the face each other they will take massive losses. So it ain’t worth it.
Not the only reason. The main reason is because most of the former enemies learned to cooperate on an economical and political level after the devastations of two world-wars. The military was just one factor and (not counting the atomic weapons) the least important one.
And today we see always, that military power without a political or diplomatic goal behind it is just useless. The USA went into Vietnam, Afganistan and Iraq without a political goal...and they failed. The Sovjets invaded Afghanistan without a real political goal...and they failed. The french fought in Vietnam and Algeria without knowing much what they want there...and they failed.
Military power is just a tool for diplomacy and for politics. Without a straight political or diplomatical concept, its useless (and potential harmfull for the society of the country).
Thanks Republicans
Neoliberalism, free trade with china, opposes universal education and infrastructure, values god over science. Reagan destroyed the us.
@@NashHinton couldn’t agree more bro.
Oh How the Mighty Have Fallen” Sam 1 19
RIP America 🇺🇸
You thought you knew better than the Almighty
lol watching this fools in 2021.
Nobel prize is a joke
it's not decline of America. it's decline of the world.
May Hsiang Nah, the world is changing. Things always get bad before they get better, because it's only when a vacuum is left that new powers can expand into them. Of course, the real worry is what precisely those new powers will be...
Insert Name Here funnily enough there will be a decline and the rise of a new power: US. The US will rise higher than ever before, but mostly because the rest of the world will be at war for resources once free trade breaks down.
Liam Norconk nope, accept the fact US is decline. it's simple because u not from asia. u did'nt know about changing in asia.
zaky gymmastiar China is growing but all it takes is a blockade and preventing the oil tankers from reaching China and the lights go out in China and they pretty much have no economy. Russia’s population is dropping due to low birth rates, their own birth rates kills them off, same as Europe, and same as China. Massive old population and fewer young people means the economy slows growth and the eventually just declines. Unlike the US.
Until China has 10 aircraft carriers and supporting fleet they are at the mercy of the US doing whatever they want. Sure the US can’t invade but we kill their economy. They also have to fight the second largest fleet in the world, Japan. Good luck.
Russia can go ahead and invade Europe, their shrinking population will collapse their country into rebelling Eastern Europeans and the country will Balkanize. No matter if Russia wins a million battles they need population to occupy and hold the land, and they have a fucking small and shrinking population. Birth rates matter.
This will be like the many CZcams videos claiming this. Theres yt vids that are 8 years old saying this. Yet today it's still the same dominance that was predicted to be gone today.
And I can and the west has spent time a d money elevating the world. Mistaking the world's modernizing growth for American decline is wrong. It simply means America's plan and support to raise the world from poverty is working.
You showed gangamstyle like it represents china, no it doesnt its south korean artist who made that song gush