Microtransactions, Skill Based Matchmaking, unfinished games all are the biggest issues with modern games, shooters especially. Games are not designed to be fun anymore, they are made as a way to milk your money, we don't get cool unlockables and rewards in game anymore, we have to buy our way there. We can't relax and chill with the boys trying new weapons or play styles, cause we are bombarded with sweat lords with SBMM. Games get stale after a week cause they are either missing features or parts are just broken as a result of releasing a game too early and unfinished, we as the consumers can never win anymore, I miss early 2010s online multiplayer gaming... We're in the dark ages of gaming, I don't think we'll get out of it unless we see another big legal issue like when loot boxes were being deemed as "gambling for children" so companies had to get rid of them, we need something as impactful as that again to see real change.
Added cosmetics is fine, but adding more and more agents, more weapons, more abilities - just to have more and more fresh content - it unnecessarily increases game's complexity, and have secondary side effect of keeping to add more and more failure points, in where core gameplay elements can fracture at. Live service just doesn't work as the solution for every type of PvP game. And if talking about not feeling nostalgic over older multiplayer games, the continuous changes is the core reason why games tends to water down and lose their identity. Meanwhile games like OG counter-strike, half-life, quake. Plenty of fond memories to be found by returning to these.
Very True! Live Service is a completely different philosophy of game development. Most developers do not properly understand that philosophy, thus we get a lot of bad live service games.
i dont believe adding more content is inherently wrong, however i believe at some point the devs should say "ok enough is enough lets not add more characters or items" same is for balance"enough is enough the thing is perfectly fine".
I also feel there is a much stronger need for wins than having fun. Siege is a Prime example of this. People play safe cause winning is the only goal for most and with good reason. But the best games are the ones when its been about surviving or just do silly strats with no real expectation of winning, just cause chaos. But it seems like the only people who are able to enjoy that are those who are on top and can play around. Also the utter infestation of cheaters in games have really made games stale as you no longer can admire someones skill or execution without feeling suspicious. And so many players in siege choose operators for their guns more over their untility and addition to the game. So many matches where everyone picks a fragging attacker and no one choose support or breaching attacker. Perhaps the supporting and breaching roles needs to be more interesting so people feel that those characters are fun to play? I'm still having a blast with siege (only fps I play atm,) however the balancing and fun factor feels restricted.
I don't like multiplayer because I normally don't have much time I can sit down and play a game without needing to pause it every 10 minutes to handle something, and when I do have the time I don't want to spend it getting demolished online by everyone who does have the time.
I havent gotten far into this video, but the finals is the most fresh and fun MP game I've played in YEARS. I'm 33. I've played thousands of games. Havent had this much fun since the first time I played Battlefield 3
Regarding character balancing, players' investments in overpowered characters provide more substantial feedback than releasing an underpowered character whom surely little to no one will play with. It is often easier for developers to release an overpowered character and then gradually nerf its strength over time until it aligns with the other characters/weapons.
I understand what your saying about nerfs and buffs and you are right but your not taking in to consideration its not fun getting killed by a character/weapons/abilities that are too strong which is also a factor
I dont see alot of variety and experimentation, only META gameplay to protect stats and ego on modern muktiplayer experiences... Also alot of things messed up by matchmaking and bad servers/netcode Call of duty is the epitome of this, simply just a funnel to the in game store moreso than a game to get better at
@@probeetgamernoob2602 Eh, depends on the game. For the current Cod games yeah that's a scam. But if Activision or EA released a new game as simple and as fun as games like Black Ops 2 or Battlefield 3, with no predatory MTX and the game was complete and had all staple features, I'd happily pay $70. For us Australians standard PS5 disc prices are $120 anyway.
Rainbow six started failing when the devs tried to shape the community playstyle and make it "pro league like". While I disagree that R6 is repetitive, the devs sure made that worse by changing the ranked system, removing maps, game mods and adding map/ops bans all made the game feels repetitive and boring, add to that the constant balance changes that were either a hit or fail and the IMO the bad maps/ops reworks, I don't want to prolong the comment so I just want to say that R6 needed to stay R6, but it drafted from that path years ago.
Every studio wanna be the next biggest thing and at a time Esport was just that. Not that I ever watched esports but seems like it kinda died down, leaving games in shambles.
Imma keep it honest with you cheif. I hate this veiw of game design. Ive played games like league and valorant and seige for years and the biggest problem isnt that my character isnt also good but that i never get to use my power/abilities at all and i never get a good idea of the game mechanics to the core because of all these stupid op characters that change EVERYTHING. Just make it all op has ruined many of my favorite games because lets say overwatch. I play rein because i like hammer boy. Well if everone is op and can instantly break my shield then quick kill my team then yeah thats fun for them but miserable for me. Or if i want to play a healer i either have to have massive healing and be EXTREMELY on top of who im healing or they die in a second. The solution your giving is what ow2 is trying and its shown to not work. It gives ONE set of players quick dopamine as they get a kill and ignores huge parts of the playerbase. Ive strait up quit ow2 cause of how all the numbers are stupidly high right now. You cant tank without dying in 2 seconds if your positioning isnt perfect and you cant heal unless you are in the person who neads healing in half a second cause if your not they die. Its a terrible game for me and many ithers due to people like you who have the mindset of oh bigger numbers is better when most of the time it just isnt. It ruins games for people who arent just focused on big number damage
@@probeetgamernoob2602 that is fair I'm sorry this comment seems so negative in general I think the video points towards the right directio. and its well made keep at it
Start off saying you got no experience, go on to say live service sucks, then say we should learn off a live service. What was the takeaway of this video?
Sorry for misunderstanding, I was saying I lack (the experience of) nostalgia. I've still played a lot of online multiplayer and am pretty familiar with it!
@@probeetgamernoob2602 big day for me, there are a plethora of mistakes in my video so this is very lucky for me. Jokes aside, you've made a very good video here
Single Player gamer to Multiplayer gamer:
“Wow, sucks to be you.”
Microtransactions, Skill Based Matchmaking, unfinished games all are the biggest issues with modern games, shooters especially. Games are not designed to be fun anymore, they are made as a way to milk your money, we don't get cool unlockables and rewards in game anymore, we have to buy our way there. We can't relax and chill with the boys trying new weapons or play styles, cause we are bombarded with sweat lords with SBMM. Games get stale after a week cause they are either missing features or parts are just broken as a result of releasing a game too early and unfinished, we as the consumers can never win anymore, I miss early 2010s online multiplayer gaming... We're in the dark ages of gaming, I don't think we'll get out of it unless we see another big legal issue like when loot boxes were being deemed as "gambling for children" so companies had to get rid of them, we need something as impactful as that again to see real change.
Good vid man, keep chugging along and don’t lose motivation. I think I see a future for you here.
nice vid came up in my reccomended, liked n subbed keep going man
Added cosmetics is fine, but adding more and more agents, more weapons, more abilities - just to have more and more fresh content - it unnecessarily increases game's complexity, and have secondary side effect of keeping to add more and more failure points, in where core gameplay elements can fracture at. Live service just doesn't work as the solution for every type of PvP game.
And if talking about not feeling nostalgic over older multiplayer games, the continuous changes is the core reason why games tends to water down and lose their identity. Meanwhile games like OG counter-strike, half-life, quake. Plenty of fond memories to be found by returning to these.
Very True! Live Service is a completely different philosophy of game development. Most developers do not properly understand that philosophy, thus we get a lot of bad live service games.
i dont believe adding more content is inherently wrong, however i believe at some point the devs should say "ok enough is enough lets not add more characters or items" same is for balance"enough is enough the thing is perfectly fine".
I also feel there is a much stronger need for wins than having fun. Siege is a Prime example of this. People play safe cause winning is the only goal for most and with good reason. But the best games are the ones when its been about surviving or just do silly strats with no real expectation of winning, just cause chaos. But it seems like the only people who are able to enjoy that are those who are on top and can play around. Also the utter infestation of cheaters in games have really made games stale as you no longer can admire someones skill or execution without feeling suspicious. And so many players in siege choose operators for their guns more over their untility and addition to the game. So many matches where everyone picks a fragging attacker and no one choose support or breaching attacker. Perhaps the supporting and breaching roles needs to be more interesting so people feel that those characters are fun to play? I'm still having a blast with siege (only fps I play atm,) however the balancing and fun factor feels restricted.
Nice video I like the points you made, also nice I been playing the finals as well that game is ridiculously fun!
The finals is a lot of fun!
great video! i hope to grow as much as you when i relaunch soon
well put together vid man , really enjoyed it and agree with all ur points
I thought I was alone lol good vid mate
I'm with you on the balancing issue, they need to buff the weak class, character, weapon etc instead of nerfing everything
Very well articulated
Thank you!
I don't like multiplayer because I normally don't have much time I can sit down and play a game without needing to pause it every 10 minutes to handle something, and when I do have the time I don't want to spend it getting demolished online by everyone who does have the time.
keep up the good work man
I havent gotten far into this video, but the finals is the most fresh and fun MP game I've played in YEARS. I'm 33. I've played thousands of games. Havent had this much fun since the first time I played Battlefield 3
I don't play the games you were talking about but I like your video a lot
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RAHHHHHHHH RAINBOW SIX SIEGE MENTIONED!!!!
Regarding character balancing, players' investments in overpowered characters provide more substantial feedback than releasing an underpowered character whom surely little to no one will play with. It is often easier for developers to release an overpowered character and then gradually nerf its strength over time until it aligns with the other characters/weapons.
If you gave siege procedurally generated maps, like Due Process, i feel like it would be a bit better
That could certainly help!
I understand what your saying about nerfs and buffs and you are right but your not taking in to consideration its not fun getting killed by a character/weapons/abilities that are too strong which is also a factor
Some characters are too strong and do need to be nerfed. The idea is to make sure to not overnerf those characters so players can still enjoy them.
@probeetgamernoob2602 that's a fair assessment thanks for clearing it up for me
W vid
My first fps was the original doom. Goldeneye will always be the best multiplayer ever
Nice video bro, New sub incoming!
I dont see alot of variety and experimentation, only META gameplay to protect stats and ego on modern muktiplayer experiences... Also alot of things messed up by matchmaking and bad servers/netcode
Call of duty is the epitome of this, simply just a funnel to the in game store moreso than a game to get better at
CoD’s issue is every single game is an MLG Pro Level Sweat Fest.
That certainly makes it hard to relax.
Comstetics.Fine take tho.
gw1 and 2 were goated
They were!
Correction: COD is not $60. It's $70 now.
Man, that's too much money
@@probeetgamernoob2602 Eh, depends on the game. For the current Cod games yeah that's a scam. But if Activision or EA released a new game as simple and as fun as games like Black Ops 2 or Battlefield 3, with no predatory MTX and the game was complete and had all staple features, I'd happily pay $70. For us Australians standard PS5 disc prices are $120 anyway.
this is a really REALLY well made video i dont get why the view count is not in the thousands, keep it up!
Thank you!
Rainbow six started failing when the devs tried to shape the community playstyle and make it "pro league like".
While I disagree that R6 is repetitive, the devs sure made that worse by changing the ranked system, removing maps, game mods and adding map/ops bans all made the game feels repetitive and boring, add to that the constant balance changes that were either a hit or fail and the IMO the bad maps/ops reworks, I don't want to prolong the comment so I just want to say that R6 needed to stay R6, but it drafted from that path years ago.
Every studio wanna be the next biggest thing and at a time Esport was just that. Not that I ever watched esports but seems like it kinda died down, leaving games in shambles.
Make everything op
That would make things more fun!
2009 mw2 and ch1 s2-s3 of Fortnite were like this… ironic how playing either today will still amount to more fun than their modern counterparts
Imma keep it honest with you cheif. I hate this veiw of game design. Ive played games like league and valorant and seige for years and the biggest problem isnt that my character isnt also good but that i never get to use my power/abilities at all and i never get a good idea of the game mechanics to the core because of all these stupid op characters that change EVERYTHING. Just make it all op has ruined many of my favorite games because lets say overwatch. I play rein because i like hammer boy. Well if everone is op and can instantly break my shield then quick kill my team then yeah thats fun for them but miserable for me. Or if i want to play a healer i either have to have massive healing and be EXTREMELY on top of who im healing or they die in a second. The solution your giving is what ow2 is trying and its shown to not work. It gives ONE set of players quick dopamine as they get a kill and ignores huge parts of the playerbase. Ive strait up quit ow2 cause of how all the numbers are stupidly high right now. You cant tank without dying in 2 seconds if your positioning isnt perfect and you cant heal unless you are in the person who neads healing in half a second cause if your not they die. Its a terrible game for me and many ithers due to people like you who have the mindset of oh bigger numbers is better when most of the time it just isnt. It ruins games for people who arent just focused on big number damage
The whole thing isn't black or white, developers can takes things too far. I hope you can get back into ow after they make some changes.
@@probeetgamernoob2602 that is fair I'm sorry this comment seems so negative in general I think the video points towards the right directio. and its well made keep at it
Start off saying you got no experience, go on to say live service sucks, then say we should learn off a live service. What was the takeaway of this video?
Sorry for misunderstanding, I was saying I lack (the experience of) nostalgia. I've still played a lot of online multiplayer and am pretty familiar with it!
All BR’s are trash. Chasing cosmetics is worthless and pointless. Will never buy a skin in any game ever
The only video games worth buying skins in are games like Counter Strike, as you can buy, trade and sell them for a profit.
spelt cosmetics wrong 0/10 stars
You had to have spelt something wrong in your video but I'm too lazy to check so you win
@@probeetgamernoob2602 big day for me, there are a plethora of mistakes in my video so this is very lucky for me. Jokes aside, you've made a very good video here
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