How Powerful are Rey & Ben in Episode 9?
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Where do Rey and Ben Solo measure up, not only with each other, but against all force users in the Star Wars films? Let’s talk about it!
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Also we haven't seen before the power of teleportation.Because of their unique bond we see them communicate with their eyes,they nod to eachother in a high emotional way and then Rey passes the legendary lightsaber of his kin to Ben. Now,he is worthy of holding it. Now that he is back to the Light.
That scene was beautiful and you’re correct that they are the only ones we have seen do such a thing, but this was only possible through the strength of the dyad. My evaluation was based on Rey and Kylo as separate people versus them being one in the same.
Just stumbled upon your podcast and all I have to respond is that we clearly need an episode 10!xo
I would like to see the rank of the force users.
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Ben is trained by strong force users for almost his whole life, that gives him a solid advantage over Rey.
But with more training overtime she would possibly catch up and by evolving their bond both potentially intensity there abilities to a immense level.
Yes, because she trains for a day in episode 7 and 8 and is already a jedi master level
Great assessment. I agree that Ben is stronger in the force than she is. He's stronger, has had more experience. Rey has never ever beat Kylo toe to toe. The times she has beat him, he was either injured or distracted.
It is such a shame there aren't more Vlogs like yours for the ST. There is so much food for thought in these movies. But most of the content on YT is just incel/manbaby related anger or Reylo's who are mad that Ben died.
Thank you, I appreciate your support! I really like the sequel trilogy and I take no shame in saying that. It certainly had its problems, but what movie doesn’t?
Ben achieved what anakin sought after and Rey is the force equivalent of a spirit bomb. It is crystal clear they are the strongest users of the force.
You are correct Rey has a long way to go but I believe she will find the original force tree where the father, daughter and son. The original force users. There she will ascend to fulfill her potential as vergence or a living force nexus. This of course will rest in the novels to come are written, if history is any guide. Right now Daisy Riddle is unlikely to do another Star Wars film.
NOPE!
I agree I think Kylo is undeniably more trained than Rey, but Rey is more powerful and will become one of the most powerful force users ever, just an example similar to Rey is luke in return of the Jedi, he didn’t seem that powerful but as he continued to train he eventually reached his peak and became insanely powerful, I personally see Rey heading down a similar path
nope
Kylo Ren seems to have the same level of knowledge of the Force that Vader had when he died or even more
Maybe I'm biased to like this video that's kinder to Ben and Rey but you are actually fairly trying to assess them
I appreciate that. No bias here, I’m just judging on what I see. My interpretation may be different than others and that’s ok. This is just how I feel.
?Q: Is Snoke training Ben/Kylo in 'The Force' or the 'Darkside"?????
Well the dark side is one facet of the force, the light being the other. But to answer what I think you were trying to ask, he is trained in the dark side primarily, but also to keep a level head. This is why in The Last Jedi Snoke tells Kylo he was unbalanced in is duel with Rey on Starkiller Base. Although they are masters of the dark side, they still must remain somewhat balanced, in the sense that they can’t lose focus or control of the task at hand or of their emotions. Yes, they want to use their hate and anger but it needs to be channeled in a controlled way. Remember in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine says to Anakin that his anger “gives him focus, makes him stronger”.
Rey does not have mor potential but because unlike kylo she was untrained through the dayad she is learning new things which kylo already knows they have equal potential and rey at Max would only have a tiny edge .
Who told Ben, they are a dyad? maybe the Ancient Oracle from Darth Vader's Castle located on Mustafar? that we didnt get to see in the movie.... :'(
Yea that would’ve been cool to see... I enjoyed most of what we got but definitely was left wanting more.
Anakin skywalkers midichlorian count:27,000. Palpatines: 19,000. You divide those by 4 and it’s clear that ben had a clear advantage if trained properly. Even Jedi masters like kit fisto, plo koon, and ki aid mundi are more powerful. And obi wan Kenobi doesn’t have as high of a ceiling as Rey but was more powerful in the movies
A top 10 (with them as 2 and then as 1) would be really nice!
I am currently finishing a video where I rank them as 2. I’m thinking I’ll do a separate video where I evaluate the dyad on its own.
Star Wars Lab Yay! Looking forwards to it ^^
Hey sir I would I would say yes yeah I would write them about I advise you myself Chrisley to rank how they are when they're force-users as if you're honest with you I am pretty sad about something else they should not have killed Coloradothey should have changed around to let both of them stay alive Star Wars Isaiah skills that we had never seen in any I don't know why they ended up like that but I think
I think ben is more powerful than rey after he looses the burden and troubles of being kylo ren
Some of the powers in rise of Skywalker are shown in legends
she does have potential but I don't see her above kenobi or maul, venator scene and the fact the kenobis force repulse and his uprooting of 3 trees while stabilizing a ship definitely outclasses her for the moment. Light saber skill is not a competition. She has a basic form 1 fighting style that barely has any technique at all while kylo has a minimalistic form 5 lightsaber combat. Rey skills as a force wielder are master to low council, kylo is low to mid council, but lightsaber she is knight at best and so is kylo
@Tomas Logacz yea i agree
Maul is the weakest sith in canon I wouldn’t use him as a gold standard. He lost 5 times and won once
Kylo should not have become a force ghost besucase you can not exhibit Pashin in life so only jedi can become force ghosts well at least that is the rule in legends I don’t know about it in canon.
Also in legends Sidious revived him self with essence transfer, but I don’t know if this is the same in Canon.
This is the first power ranking of these to I actually agree with I still think maul and obi wan would mostly win but not easily
also maul and other characters redirected blaster bolts and healing was never new, I understand if your only doing movies, but if you do the rest of canon then its not new, if your doing legends, definitely not
Just get clone troopers and the both of them are dead
Honestly at the end of ep 9 I'd say that they're at the level of a middle teir jedi council member, they're strong but against someone like Revan or Anakin they'd lose handily.
Rey is so trash that she could be defeated by Jar Jar in 1 second
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I liked your video but if obi wan beat Anakin and you ranked Anakin over Rey technically obi wan should be up there too
They were ragdolled by palpatine. They are powerful bit top 10?? No not yet l. They both have the potential to be top 10.i would argue Ben has more potential due to a stronger lineage but that’s a different discussions but they aren’t top 10.
😂😂😂😂😂dude papaletine ragdolled anyone are you serious bahaha you clearly seems a casual Star Wars fan
Ben and Rey are easily on the top 10 are you serious
Orest Pellumb they may be in the top 10 but definitely aren’t the strongest
@@chikushodiz91 umm no, rebels ashoka, luke, palpatine, mace, obi, maul, anakin, yoda, starkiller, shaak ti, bane, revan, melak, vitiate, kyle katarn, jerec, darth treia, vader, and so many more
The worst light side user.
The worst dark side user.
Except for Reys force training (she became probably as powerful as Yoda in just 1 year) she is a very, very good character and she's very very strong. I don't even need to say anything about Kylo Ren because he's so perfect.
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Lets just be honest. Rey was bad, agreed. But Kylo? What, are you high or something Master Kenobi? Has Satine been bothering you? I mean come on that guy did what Vader couldn't, saved someone close to him. In the comics, he used force lightning. Blocked a lightsaber by force. If he can heal, he can drain life too. Stopping a bolt midair. Killed 6 force sensitives who were basically padawan level. Took 3 padawans on and beat them like they were nothing. Almost killed Luke Skywalker in his teenage days. Killed a force sensitive and former leader of Knights of Ren by force lightning. And killed a Zillo Beast which Vader lost to. Destroyed the cave of Dagobah with one telekinetic attack. Held a large ship by the force. I mean do you seriously need more feats? This guy was OP. In terms of force ability, even higher than Maul and Dooku according to me, and equal to Vader in terms of sheer power.