The Sim Lab P1X | The last Sim Rig you'll ever need to buy!
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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2022
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I've had my P1-X for 2 years now and absolutely love it. Well worth the price, even shipped to Canada. No regrets here.
When my Sim Lab P1-X arrived, the small sandwich plate (part B6) was missing from the package. I contacted them and they sent the missing piece for free (they paid for the shipping too). I would recommend this rig to anyone!
What they did was normal because it was their fault. They had to assume the mistake.
So they did the sensible thing any company should do? The bar is so low for companies nowadays if you're stoked by that.
Had my p1x for years, there customer service is the very best have come across. Richard will go above and beyond
I just received my P1-X last week and while I'm still in the process of assembling it all, so far the experience has been stellar. From the packaging to the quality of the individual parts, I am really impressed. It is exactly what you would hope to get from this product! Now I hope it can last me for years to come
How are the instructions?
@@adrianchannelle8651 Instructions are good, pretty similar to IKEA^^ I have watched the build guide from sim racing garage as well, but it‘s really quite easy to build, even for first timers like me
Bought a p1x just as the pandemic started SIM labs kept me updated on when they'd have the stock in they also sent it of before I'd paid for it, I told them about it and they gave me 20% off for being soo honest so amazing customer service and the product itself is top quality I will never need to buy another rig, it's easy to build an very sturdy, definitely worth the money.
I'd been eyeing this rig for a while. This video finally pulled it over the line. Pulled the trigger on a Black Friday deal, hoping to have it all set by Christmas. Cheers!
You'll love it 😁
Love the p1x- the t nuts fit the best out of the others👍 Morning Dave Happy Holidays
That's the one I own and love it! Would buy it all over again.
Been waiting for you to post this.... Thanks man
Yep, bought my aluminum(non-black version) P1X back in 2020 and I love it! A little more than a lot of the others but the quality is great. Like you said, this is the only one you'll ever need. Cheers!
My home office - simracing space consists of an IKEA Gallant desk (milk white glass top) with grey feet, white walls, gray office chair and a huge white wardrobe. I cannot, in good conscience, put a full black rig in this room, which is why I would love the pure grey aluminum. Nowadays it seems that everyone is selling black anodized 8020 rigs... Do you think that I could order it from simlab without the color? I mean as a special request, since they don't give an option on the site.
Where did you get your seat from?
I think it goes without saying that Sim Lab doesn't have to watch any review videos before they are published. It's a simple design that works, and works well.
For me the biggest challenge/headache is getting the position right. Adjusting the wheel bracket, etc, is a bit of trial and error to get it perfect. And if the wheel base is already attached, it's heavy. Just take your time and think through every step. Don't rush the build.
Also, I was reluctant to buy a cockpit because I, "Wanted to spend all my money on nicer gear." I wanted a nicer wheel or PC or monitors, etc. Finally I bit the bullet and turned out to be one of the best sim racing upgrades I've ever done. For a while I thought I'd be happier with slightly larger monitors, a nicer wheel base, etc. But the reality is a cockpit is the core of the sim rig. Without a proper cockpit, everything else feels a little less nice. Or phrases better, a good cockpit makes all your toys feel a little better. And now I can bolt nearly anything to my rig with ease. I have no restrictions on upgrades.
My first rig was their GT1 EVO (not coated) and it was awesome and lasted me many, many years. There weren't many options back then. Recently, I decided I wanted even more rigidity after upgrading to a DD but decided to get an ASR rig. Very similar build quality and way more coating options. I'm also in eastern Canada so it made sense to buy local.
They say Sim Lab set the benchmark for profile rigs. Very true IMHO.
I think the real point to hammer home is if you can stretch your budget, absolutely stretch to a 160 profile rig. Yes Dave is correct in that Simlabs do very well with their packaging and tnuts, like Heusinkveld they've earned their reputation, but the chonkier profile matters most. Get everything as thick as you can get it. Profile pedal tray is a must, seat brackets, try get them at least 4mm thick. Plenty of good brands out there that offer 160 profile rigs, some cheaper than others because they do use cheaper fastners etc, but a 160 profile is so much of an improvement over an 80 profile rig. A 160 profile rig is an absolute buy once cry once purchase as a sim racer and you'll have it until the end of your days.
Agree, recently got a TR160 at a really good price and difference is night and day over my old Simetik K2 rig. Rigidity is paramount to develop good muscle memory and consistency.
I bought the SimLab GT1 Evo last year. Build quality was perfect and really good price.
I can recommend the integrated triple monitor mount.
Less ground profile, and looks like it belongs.
I am using my P1X for just over a year now, it's just great!
A few years ago I thought I save some money to design and build my own rig with the exact same materials as Sim-Lab uses, but in the end I spend more money than a similar Sim-Lab rig. I must admit that I used some essential parts from Sim-Lab, like the wheel deck, iso monitor mounts, sliding pedal plate and some other stuff. Some quality parts from Sim-Lab, very thoughtful designs!
Good review, I agree, Sim-Lab are top notch and I don't envisage having to ever replace my P1-X. I did a lot of research when looking to replace my old tubular frame rig a couple of years ago and went for this mainly because its rock solid, so that I can get the most out of a DD wheel base and high load pedals. My P1-X also had a lot of spare fixings which makes it easy to add a new shifter or button box (not sure if that's the same with all P1-X's). I can also recommend their triple screen mount which is equally sturdy and their VARIO adjuster for fine tuning triple screen alignment.
Great review. Just got the p1-x waiting on a seat. Thanks from a fellow “big lad”
Hi Dave, good review mate? sorry sim racers perspective 🤣 I also bought a p1x 100% agree with what you say. Packaging excellent, also like you all the parts were perfect. Tnuts good quality, also had some extras, solid as a rock.
I would go for this but i have their gt-1 chassis from a while back. Currently upgraded the wheel deck and pedal deck. Now working on shifter mount points and a setup for my HE hand brake.
Hey Dave! Great video as always. Do you feel like the psr1 is just as sturdy as the simlab p1x or did you notice more flex on the psr1?
Hey Dave, looks like the P1-X rig is € 616.61 + € 272.10 shipped to the US, presumably removing VAT. Great deal if you ask me, on one of the best cockpits around. I may have to consider upgrading my Sim-Lab TR1 for this beast!
Worth mentioning the GT1 cockpit for half the price. I know the P1X is an upgrade for extra rigidity but I had no problem with the GT1 and I got a cockpit + seat for the price of the P1X.
I have a GT1-Evo still boxed up ready for the time I eventually get my wheel and pedals. Might be worth mentioning this as an option for those who might not be able to afford the P1X :)
Gt1-evo is a brilliant rig. I’m sure they even offer the same wheel decks as the p1 👍
I Just bought one. Really good. Just waiting on a seat and i can race.
Im just waiting for my last box thats stuck in shipping, cant wait to build and finally use it!
Hi Dave, I have the same SimLab seat as you. I bought a memory foam lumber pillow for it. Did you find that you need a little more padding?
I was gonna get the endurance pack on rf2 for multi class but what's your opinions on other ones and do you need certain tracks for BTCC and GT3? if so I'll prob stick with Endurance pack as I wanna try multiclass
I like it Dave😍👍
Hello Dave Cam, I would like to know what do you think about the trak racer TR8 PRO rig please ? Is there some negatives in your opinion before I buy it ? Thank you !
Ello Dave that’s a great rig I’ve got the GT1 EVO and it doesn’t move a millimetre mine the same not a mark on it and got extra nuts a bolt there a great company but I couldn’t afford a seat lol my back hurts with the one I got I’ll get one by like your eventually
That should send You P1X Pro version… You deserve it Dave!!!
Awww, thanks 😁
3 hours, thats wild.. It took my 12-14 to assemble my TR80mk5, my first alu profile tho 😂
It would be nice if you specified what was actually better than the other rigs you’ve owned. Like what exactly makes the quality sooo much better? Do the other rigs just have a few blemishes and scratches? Or are they really rough/bent/rusted or something? And it would’ve been nice to know what rig you recently bought for reference.
The finish, scratched less and the profile was thicker. I bought the Race anywhere PSR1. Looking at it you would think they're the same. Far from it. 👍
Dave have u always had the pedal plate flat like that I’ll try that later I’ve always had mine at an angle 👍🏻
Yes I always have my pedal foot plate as vertical as I can. 👍
Everyone, make sure you either add lockable/retractable wheels or be sure you are assembling it where you want it because otherwise it will never move!
I have added a GTOmega Prime Floor Plate as it makes the whole thing a little more comfortable. If SimLab make an equivalent, you may want to add it to your order.
Furniture sliders are a poor man's option as well. However they will move getting in and out of the rig. Granted you're spending over a grand on a rig so springing for the wheels shouldn't be a big deal.
i have moved mine around, no wheels
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I have a GT track atm and thinking of switching to the this cockpit. Could i use my GT track seat on the simlabs or do i need to buy theres?
Like :) it Looks Simple and Good
can the next level racing motion platform be added too this rig?
How do you feel this compares to the Heusinkveld GT. I have the opportunity to pick up this or a used in good condition Heusinkveld for around 600$ CSL DD 8nm so need to figure out a way to mount it properly while the sim lab would be good to go.
The Heusinkveld gt is incredible although much narrower than the p1x and other similar rigs so finding wheel decks that fit will be your issue unless you get one from Heusinkveld 👍
In the US GT Omega is the way to go. Great service and basically the same as the Sim Lab for EU
I am waiting to receive my p1-x that i am being sent for free. hopefully i am as happy as you Mr Cam.
What are thoughts about the p1x pro.
I have this rig it’s great
Pedal deck question, at the 7:33 mark. What’s the benefit of installing a pedal deck instead of the pedals directly on the rig itself?
The pedal deck is adjustable 👍
@@davecamm thanks Dave. Getting into sim racing and saw your other video of what you’d do differently. So starting with a Logitech G923 as a starter to see if the bug hits me. Doing research in the meantime. Thanks for your time and reply
Hello, one question How does it compare with the RSR-21(rock solid rigs)?
I like the look of the RSR more, but any Alu profile beats of for customisation 👍
I remember when the Firewood 2000 was your favourite rig 🤣
Aesthetically still is 😁
Always remember guys, This Isnt A Review Channel! 🤣🤣
Thank you. Finally someone gets it 😁
was debating between this and the ASR6. Went with the ASR6 b/c of the seat. Feel the same though, rock soild and powder coated and beautiful. It was overpriced by compairason though, i spend like $1,500 with seat, monitor stand and accessories.
This might sound a little strange, but bear with me. Your Sim Lab seat, your fixed back seat, I’m just mulling over whether I should swap out my comfy BMW 1 series road car seat for fixed back seat, indeed SIMLAB speed seat (the other one without the wrap around top) is top of the list with the Sparco fixed back. Why?
Well I’ve been struggling with consistent application of my HE Sprint brake pedal, I just can’t replicate the same brake pressure for the same corner, lap to lap, sometimes it spikes to say 90% (locks up) sometimes I overshoot and looking back it plateaued at 50%. Also I don’t seem to be able to generate more than 25kg with realistic pedal application in HE software. I’ve been gradually stiffening the brake pedal with elastomers trying to stiffening the pedal, so I can push harder, not that I want to, but thinking if I can apply more force the consistency might improve. Anyway while pushing the brake pedal last night, I stuck a spare hand down behind my lower back and realised I’m pushing my myself off the pedal and into my comfy car seat back.
So here’s my question, when you moved up from your Sparco R333 recliner to the fixed back, did you detect, any change to the consistency of your braking, did it become more consistent, or an increase of brake force (kg) for the same amount effort in the pedal push?
It seems to me rather than pushing a rock while lent up against a hard place, I’ve been between a soft and a soft place, (and after mangling that metaphor) and now in effort improve my braking consistency I’m just pushing myself away from the brake pedal, into the seat back seat, which is comfy, and I thought fairly stiff but maybe not for race car application, and a big lad like myself.
No pressure. So I’m thinking would the fixed back simlab seat help? Does even my theory make sense? And yes, it also could be something else. I maybe rubbish.
Yes a fixed seat will definitely help with your consistency. You don't want anything to move at all. I used to do exactly the same in my old more comfortable seat. 👍
@@davecamm so using man maths, after all the money I’ve invested in iRacing content, and sim racing kit (the rig is SimLab GT1-evo), the CSL DD, the high end PCs, and triples, is being undermined by being stingy on the seat.
Possibly.
I don’t have a partner to filter my man maths through, so I think I can say this purchase can be justified. 🤣
Edited to add - I knew coming to the man who has spent £28.5K on sim racing kit, would get me a sympathetic hearing.
Hahaha, yes I feel your pain. I went thr route you've obviously taken and don't regret upgrading the seat. The Sparco Grid Q is brilliant btw 😁
@@davecamm if/more likely when - I use the simlab link in the bio/description does that still help you as an affiliate link even if it’s the other seat at checkout?
(Seems only fair)
Yes it will. Thank you for thinking of that, appreciate it 😁
Sim lab is based in a village next to mine.
Great stuff but again too expensive
Sold!
Can u move forward or backward with the seat?
Like in a real car? Just for the perfekt foot Position
Not without a seat slider, but you set it up for yourself when building 👍
does the back of the seat flex when you push the brake?
Not at all 👍
@@davecamm thanks
I also have the speed one, but without lumbar support, my lower back hurts after 20 minutes. How about you?
Mine feels fine up to now 👍
Just spray your monitor stand black or get it powder coated 👍
You do this all the time and it annoys me Dave!
"Do what?" I hear you ask.
Well let's put it this way you are not a sim racer just like me, you are a million miles better than I am! 😉
I have the GTOmega Prime which uses almost the same upright mounting plate system and it is very sturdy indeed.
I need to get the updated pedal deck (which looks remarkably similar to the one on the P1X) as mine does have some slight flex with the Sprints fitted.
Another good review by a bloke who is not a reviewer of products. 👍
Thanks Doug 😁
Has anyone bought the p1x pro version. I looking at it and thinking about it. Dose anyone have any recommendations out there.
How does it compare with the PSR1?
Very similar as you'd expect. Upright brackets, finish and nuts/bolts better on the SIM Lab 👍
@@davecamm In what way are those parts better on the SIM Lab Dave ? Thanks.
I bought a GT Omega PRIME Cockpit RS9 and now i saw this. SimLab seat looks much better and its cheaper🥺
👍
Too expensive to purchase in NA, shipping and such. Went with advanced sim racing. Free shipping!!
So that's why all your gear was in the bathroom again 🤣
Yep 😂
I don't agree to the fact that a P1X is the perfect chassis to have. You can upgrade the SimLab P1X to what I call a TREX. Simply put you buy yourself a TR160 front mount along with their own Trak Racer aluminum brackets 8 of them (The ones that allows you to sandwich two profiles together) . Then you tap one of the extremities of the long profiles with M8 (1325mm ones) and one of the lateral base profiles from both sides again with M8. You place the TR brackets on far rear, the base of the side mount bracket, the base of the uprights, you replace their front mount with the TR one, You get yourself a TREX. Then you don't need any more chassis for life!!
Oh oh, no carpet underneath while building...
Rubber feet 😁
PRS1 and P1-X are the same......
yeah or you can build one by yourself and save around 4 to 5 hundred euro
1st 😁
3rd!
“There are gaps on the side of the seat to let out the hot air” 💨😅
We all trump when racing right? 😂
I got a P1-X last year and it’s been worth every penny, I have the integrated triple monitor stand and it’s rock solid, i don’t feel like I would need any other rig anytime soon. This thing is really awesome
I agee 100%! Got mine a little over a year ago as well. No regrets!
I also have the triple monitor stand as well. Both have the lockable wheels and the rig itself also has the rubber feet.