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No, he wasn't. He was just making time to find all the other bombs across the city. But from the beginning, he took Joker's menace seriously, and decided to play on the mad clown's terms in order to win.
@@mauriciomongoy2025dude keep an eye on him all the time. Dude literally got speed almost equal to The Flash, that’s why he got all the the bomb in like nano second
Even here, what was stoping sups from just snaging the bomb remote out of jokers hand in a milisecond and breaking it or even firing a weak heat vision beam at his hand to make him drop it or just break it altright? Even if sups is not ok to go straight for kill (he does kill but is not trigger happy about it) he could extremely easily disarm the joker and just stare at him with crossed arms and a look of disapointment. This is also kinda of a poor write on the joker because often times he is ridiculously smart and has as many contingencies, backups and twists to his plans to pull out of his metaphorical ass than batman himself.
What a lot of folk, Joker included, forget is that he was proven wrong in the Killing Joke. He was trying tae drive Gordon insane. He failed. Gordon flat out ordered Batman tae bring Joker in without killing him.
"Being Superman doesn't mean I'm *greater* than anyone. But it does mean I'm *better* than *you* ." Man, it's refreshing to see a writer who really gets Superman. 'I stand for something - a better future, where nobody needs a Superman. What do *you* stand for?'
Joker is nihilistic. He just wants to make the world burn & watch the aftermath. Norman Osborne or Mysterio would make goulash out of him, Loki would turn him into a SLUG. NICK FURY would lock him in a Hulk - proof cell just like he did to LOKI. Tony Stark would SMART ASS him to death.
thats great, supes isnt an ego proud d,.ick head, hes pretty chill but in this case a oody two shoes saying that to the edgelord crimeboss really twist the knife on the''insult''lol
The entire idea that "kindness" and "niceness" are not the same thing needs to be explored more. I have had people give me great kindness while calling me every name under the sun, and others be bastions of niceness while hurting me casually.
It's so good. Nice is a formality, it keeps you out of trouble. Nice makes bland small talk. Kind is an affair of the heart. Kind starts a conversation asking how your sister is handling chemotherapy, when you only mentioned it once in passing.
He acts like a God in the old traditional sense if pressed he'll flex as much as he needs to but you see the full extent of his power which in my opinion makes him the ultimate bad ass
Except this Superman is also nice. He’s even genuinely laughing at Joker’s jokes. He just has a limit. Joker (and Batman to a lesser extent) obviously went past that limit. Niceness is a core part of Superman’s character too.
I love how for the majority of the comic, Supes treated Joker like, well, a joke. But in the very last few panels you find out that internally, he took him VERY seriously. I love that sort of writing
I think that's just how Superman is, he takes every villain seriously, even if he doesn't show it on the surface, or if he realistically has no reason too.
@@Prince_Luci it makes me wonder if batman has some type of hubris thinking he is actually in control of very much.. like.. superman who is all powerful has the humility to know anything could happen and even though superman has some of the most power he doesn't act like he is completely in control and it even bothers him other ppl dont understand this but then batman has the nerve and naive audacity to tell an all powerful guy that he has it under control.. like if it bothers superman of all people what kind of self centered douche would act like they know better? batman lol
@@raidenpainn1561 If Lex every tried any business in Gotham. You can bet the Joker would be hell on his plans and the Penguin would worm his way into his business for every stock it's worth.
@@magnusm4lex Luthor is one of the smartest characters in DC, those guys have no chance at doing anything to him, usually he’s the one manipulating them
When it comes to dealing with Batman? Yeah, Superman has learned to be cold with him. If Batman is going to play his games, Superman will drop the "boy scout" and remind him of his mortality. Because unlike Bruce, Superman doesn't have a code or a promise holding him back, just a choice. After all, that's what they are here for with one another: to remind one another that they are not invincible and keep the other in check. Batman was leaving his check by letting Joker run wild in Superman's city, so Superman put him back in check by reminding him that only HE cares about the Joker, not Superman.
Jesus Christ. “Any writer could write you, any actor could play play you. All they need to do is is make up their own version and people will applaud them. But NO ONE will ever applaud YOU” that is by far the most brutal dissection of the Jokers entire being that I’ve ever heard and it is from Superman, and not even from Injustice.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 That’s the point. Iterations of the Joker in film and comic are amazing characters. But if the Joker were real and did all the awful things he had done, he would be an irredeemable monster.
and it's not the joker thematically that ppl really enjoy, it's elements of the joker that individual writers give him. by himself the joker is just a two-bit clown villain, it's his multiple iterations that make him so well-regarded. compare to spiderman, who just on his face thematically as a character is unique and worthy of praise, and that's not bc 'oh xyz's parker run was great' or 'tobey maguire played such a great spiderman' it's bc the themes of spiderman themself were really cool and each portrayal is just an adaptation of those themes
@@RamenBlox I honestly read that as you taking a dump and kryptonite came out, which honestly given how there's so much fucking kryptonite in DC, I'd believe it.
This is a perfectly written Superman. He’s like that dude who can fight but is a constant diffuser. But push too far and he’s the scariest character in comics.
It’s not really a perfectly written Superman. He’s written like how a fanboy would write him. Like a regular guy who seems completely capable of snapping and murdering people if he has a bad day. This comic would completely validate Batman’s fear and distrust of Superman and his power.
@@Random1567 Joker in any interpretation is a mass murderer. In long running interpretations he has repeatedly shown that penal institutions cannot hold him and he has no intention of reforming, immediately going back to inciting fear and death among civilians as soon as he was able. Frankly by this point Joker is less a test of a hero's restraint then he is an example of the perils of not taking decisive action when needed. This Superman is showing awareness of this and has basically put the hard line of 'you have had one chance with me, I am not going to give you another if you decide to threaten those I protect again'. Frankly the whole superman vs batman dynamic has always felt poorly written to their characters to me but if I was to judge this scenario I would say it was batman who earned fear and distrust not Superman.
What people don't notice is that in front of the Joker, he acts like the man is no threat, and idiot and laughs. But the moment the Joker isn't in front of him, Superman acknowledges what kind of threat Joker actually is... So Superman didn't actually think that Joker was a joke, but instead realized that the best way to stop the man was to instead ruin his fun. By doing that, Joker no longer had any interest in going to Metropolis... As Superman stated, you shouldn't indulge the Joker...
Superman considering Batman a friend and ally is just as crazy and has no real logic to hold on either But it is as Batman once said, he's just a man, and Superman and other heroes can easily kill him if they wanted to as well. They have the ability. Sups just reminded him of that fact with the Joker. "If you cross the line, I won't hesitate to kill you. Just as you would do the same to me." (It may hurt him, but he'd do it)
@@girl1213 Why can't Superman consider him a friend? He grew up in Kansas and are friends with so many regular humans like Jimmy Olsen and Perry White. Batman is also allied with Oracle/Barbara even though she can no longer fight due to her disability.
@@girl1213 Superman and Batman usually get along just fine afaik. Batman made a huge gamble here that Superman wouldn’t tolerate, but that doesn’t make them enemies, and even at the end of the comic he wasn’t threatening to kill Batman, he was threatening to put down the Joker. He watched his friend do something stupid and told them he wouldn’t stand for it, nothing more.
@@TheWorkersNewspaper1994 It's often brought up concerning the darker side of the Dark Knight JLA: Tower of Babel is one of the prime stories talking about Batman's dangerous ability to use his brain against them. And the Injustice League series shows the two of them on different sides of the conflict. There's a lot of examples that prove Bruce has a darkness within him that Superman doesn't (normally) have. And don't forget All-Star Batman (The "God-Damn Batman") These are all true realities of the characters and how easily it could have been. It's not just a one-off. It's a hard truth. Even the mainstream Batman and Superman can admit they have clashes and fights and disagreements that have led them fist-fighting one another.
I think the recent shows (superman and Lois + the new animated one) have captured it. Hopefully gunn does superman justice because man im sick of the "what if he was EVIL" or the "he's alien Jesus!" angles.
"Batman has a no-kill rule" "I'm not Batman" the fact that Superman throws Batman's ideologies back at Joker just to tell him "I could kill you if I wanted to" is genius. sure to rattle someone who's so confident that the hero won't just outright kill him
I think there's one crossover comic when the Joker meets the Punisher. Joker assumed Punisher would send him to jail like Batman always does. Once Joker realized just who he was dealing with, he basically shat himself
It's so nice to see Superman written well. He's a decent, respectful fellow with very strong moral convictions and a desire to use his strength to spend his life helping people. Superman very carefully considers his every action because his immense power allows him to do almost anything, and the responsibility is enormous. As you'd imagine, he *despises* a person like the Joker. Barely anyone is a threat to Superman, so he takes no pleasure in hurting people. He uses exactly the right amount of force, both physical and psychological, to scare the Joker into submission and make the game boring and punishing for him. He doesn't even hold it against the Joker, after Superman had judged he'd shredded the Joker's pride badly enough he was more angry at Batman for letting this guy run around endangering people. The last bit where he's laughing at Joker's quip about Hot Topic is great, Superman's like "haha, screw you Batman, he's right, you all look like you're in mourning".
@@bluegum6438then you have injustice Superman that gets absolutely hoodwinked by the jonkler. The issue is when Superman is “written well” nobody else is, because in order for Superman to be “well written” he needs to pretty much solve every issue instantly and never be seen as weak or anything like that. A “well written” Superman is boring, like the joker says lol.
@@OhImSaucy I don't think that's correct, what you're describing is actually bad writing I think Superman is generally written very poorly and this here is one of the only examples of him being an interesting character
Superman: "I don't have a code. I just don't generally kill people." The "monsters" that Superman fights. Yeah, nobody, not even the law, is going to argue with HIM if it comes to that.
Exactly. And they are monsters from Darkseid to Doomsday but hey he believes in goodness. People don't seem to care when a certain space monkey with an orange gi and black hair spares people for believing in goodness.
@@TheUnseenPath Missing the point. Superman is saying he just GENERALLY doesn't kill people. GENERAL-ly is funny because he's killed Zod a few times (multiverses and things, and the best joke in the story if you read it like that). He's THREATENING to make an exception and kill the Joker. Not throw him a magic bean and let him try again. I love both Superman and Goku for the record.
@@spkoftdvl it's a matter of popularity. As joker says superman is vague. This is a throwback to fans not wsnting superman but he's vague. but such great power can come with deep character if the writers use their head.
Exactly, it’s so annoying seeing Joker 🃏 win situations he should stand no chance in. About time he gets wrecked as easily as he should by someone like Superman.
@@patchwurk6652not even close to Deadpool’s plot amor and 4 wall breaking, the best I can say for joker is he’s a fucking lucky dude, but not even close to Deadpool’s plot armor
Superman: So it was a test then? Batman: Yes. And you fail--- Superman: No no no no stop. Let's talk about about how you let a potentially dangerous psychopath loose in my city just because you wanted to test me.
Superman: I was testing you by asking if it was a test, and YOU failed. Do you know what we call someone who lets dangerous psychos loose on other people to see what happens? A supervillain, Bruce.
that frankly seemed out of character for Batman. He realizes, like Superman does, that Joker is a dangerous maniac, he wouldn't let him do whatever he wants. He would go to Metropolis and help. It's not the Condiment King, it's the Joker, the only man Batman seriously considers to kill, many times. Letting him plant bombs in Metropolis, just to test Superman is crazy talk
A nice little reminder of why the Injustice universe is just that: an alternate universe. 99 times out of 100, Joker will fail at threatening or corrupting Superman. Not only because Clark is genuinely smart and clever enough to not fall for the Joker’s crap, but also because Superman acknowledges that 1 in 100 chance exists. This is why he shows up at the bat cave later on to lecture Batman. Bruce of all people should have known that setting up social experiments involving the Joker is playing with fire and that he should have known better.
Then again, I think why Joker succeeded in the Injustice verse is that with Luthor being an actual good guy in there, there was nobody willing to psychologically push Superman until he snapped.
i like the idea of the joker always winning against batman but being out of his comfort zone with superman....however joker could very easily break him if he knew enough about him which makes it a fun dynamic of "keep him in your city, you have nothing to lose"
injustice superman wasn't exactly a boy scout when he was growing up either, he was slightly twisted from the start, hence why he was corruptible in the first place
@@A-Microwave yep , Injustice Superman wasn't really a boy scout , there are plenty things that changed in the very origins of multiple heroes in Injustice Universe.
The things he laughed at are pretty basic jokes you'd probably be able to hear at any ole stand up routine, not even close to dark humor. Not coming at you.. this is just a really big mischaracterization of the scene that ignores all of the context in the scene.
"I don't have a code. I just generally don't kill people." I love that line. It's not even Superman saying that it's right to kill or that he likes doing it. But Superman believes that his powers give him certain responsibilities. It would be unethical for Superman to turn some mugger's head into paste, because of the hilarious power discrepancy between the two. Even here, he doesn't immediately kill Joker but plays along with his game for a little bit, because he doesn't HAVE to kill Joker to stop him. But if a villain is going to hurt thousands of people unless he's stopped immediately? Superman's responsibility is to protect people, not criminals. He'll do what he has to.
yeah ultimately the rigidity of "it's never okay to kill one being to save many" is flawed - superman is powerful enough that he *usually* doesn't have to kill anyone but would if the good outweighed the bad. And if it leaves some sort of 'moral stain' or feelings of guilt on a person that's a burden he's also willing to take.
So glad Superman pimp slapped Batman across the room. Batman’s needed that for a long time now. The writers actually showed Superman some respect this time.
@@Joe-xo4yg He did only that, literally on the next panel we see Batman still standing on the same spot while Supes moves away from the Batwreck towards him...
@@shawerful5209DC has a huge Batman problem, the writers love him TOO much. If you ask me, Batman should not even be in the Justice League, he should be like Spiderman or Dare Devil, characters who occasionally help the main group of heroes but are never full time members
This actually what I've been waiting for, for a long time: someone to TRULY humiliate the Joker and unmask him as the embarassing edgelord he truly is.
I like how Superman easily defeated the Joker without compromising who he is and what he stands for. I also like how Superman expressed his anger at Batman for letting the Joker go to Metropolis as part of a test for Superman. Superman may be a good guy, but that doesn't mean he can't get angry at lives being put at risk.
I understand why he's mad, bat's really shouldn't be doing shit like that but bitch slapping him is pretty uncalled for and just unwise when he's literally one of like 5 people that can regularly lay soups out
Batman doesn't seem to realize that while Superman isn't QUITE the same level of genius as Batman is, he is still very, VERY intelligent. The irony of their relationship is that Batman constantly underestimates Superman, but Superman NEVER underestimates Batman.
i like the bat but its really frustrating how overtime hes just such an untouchable status quo character and its handwaved as simply: hes smarter than everyone else and whats worse often other characters gab the idiot ball to make him look even smarter its nice when writers remember Supes isnt some brute lol
Uh, what's with this comment? Superman in the League is only less smarter than martian manhunter, who is actually the smartest living being in the earth.
For real though, glad I discovered this, these two together and this portrayal of superman is perfect, wonder who the artist is too, phenomenal, the characters don't consistently look the same
With the amount of control Superman has in his abilities he could kill any one of his rogues with ease. They should be thankful that Clark grew up to be kind and not a person with a god complex.
After reading Death in/of the Family, the Killing Joke, and “The Fall” story from Arkham Knight. Hearing a symbol of Truth, Justice, and Hope tell this narcissistic mass murdering bastard that he ain’t shit is really satisfying.
"B-b-but Superman is boring!" Dude grew up knowing he had the ability to do literally anything with his powers and chose to help people instead of becoming a villain. Being a morally upstanding person isn't boring, especially in a world with so much cruelty. Dark and brooding is boring, bring back hope and optimism.
So true. That is why I think Superman is one of the superheroes that people only appreciate when they get a bit older. Or at least I did. The idea that someone with all that power chooses to ALWAYS do good, to remain hopeful despite the hopelessness of the world…you that realize that IS the subversion, and, more than that, is deeply inspirational.
@@m0ther_bra1ned12 superman was first made like 100 years ago. You can't compare the very first god-like syperhero to one made in the last decade, the landscape of the genre and comic culture is completely different now.
Superman genuinely got the Joker depressed enough to just surrender... Also Superman didn't slap Batman, he just destroyed the Batmobile. If Superman slapped Batman hard enough to flip the Batmobile, then Batman would have been turned to a splatter...
@@martinjugolin2087except Batman having Kryptonite doesn't make sense If the Krypton fragments are in space it'd take decades or centuries to find just one of them If they however "landed" on earth then a few hundred dino-asteroids would've crashed onto earth and eradicated humanity
Batman’s no kill rule and Superman not having one, reminds me a lot of this one Doctor who Quote “Good men don’t need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many.”- the 11th Doctor
Superman: Actually scares the Joker into never coming back to Metropolis by threatening to kill him. Batman: "wELl yoU SEe, YoU FAileD thE tESt becAuse You cOMpromiSed-" Superman: Bitch slap "Who asked?"
"compromised what? i never said i had a code. i just don't do it cause i don't think i should. Until I do. Because it'd be easy. Easier than it would be for you, anyway." Batman: *scowls*
I find it outright funny that super man is meant to be better than the dark scary Batman but in reality their moral code when pushed I’d drastically different cus to Batman what happened to super man in injustice is just his daily life when his loved ones get hurt
@@Solo_man69 Tyler from Imaginary Axis convinced me that Batman NEEDS a code because he IS insane. In having a code on a piece of paper, written of lines he thinks he shouldn't cross, is helpful for himself. Insanity isn't a psychological term, it's a legal term with legal definitions; a person who is insane are those who can not differentiate right from wrong and wrong from right. Superman isn't immoral for not having a code like Batman, Kal-El knows right from wrong because he was raised right then Bruce who has many unresolved family issues.
Joker got humbled. This made me appreciate Superman. As a kid I thought he "boring" too, but now that I'm older I realize that's the point. That's how he likes things. I like how well written this Superman is, makes want to actually read the comic.
Honestly, stuff like this is why Superman is one of my favourite heroes. Some people call him boring or a "goody too shoes" but I've always just seen him as a pretty cool and nice dude. The kind of guy you could just go out for a few drinks with and it it would be a chill time.
God I love how the illustrator is able to make Superman look pretty friendly or generally unintimidating, not even looking super buff or anything, to making him look insanely terrifying with shading around the face. Being able to see Clark's eyes almost acts as the visual way of humanizing him. Even during the part where he tells Joker he's better than him, frowning and all he still looks more like just an upset father. But as soon as you look over, his eyes being obscured by his prepping his laser vision makes him incredibly terrifying.
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Heck, Injustice Joker likely considered being murdered by Superman to be the pinnacle of comedy, getting a good guy to do evil and so on. Here? A good guy is doing good and not fearing him in the slightest
I never understood the Joker. He doesn't want people to laugh at his jokes, doesn't want anyone else to make them, and at least once to my knowledge he killed a comedian. His interest in humor is actually extremely narrow- it's like to him, it's just a weapon. Not something to be enjoyed on its own, not something to share, something that's just for him. He's actually pretty depressing...
Considering that, in some versions of his past, Joker was a failed comedian who desperately wanted to make people laugh; as echoed here when he says "You try and you try. You go out there every night and you give them your best stuff ...".; it's pretty weird that he'd get upset that Superman laughed at his jokes. Maybe it's been so long since anyone (other than Harley maybe) has complimented his humor he dosen't know how to react anymore? Maybe because his humor couldn't get real laughs and make people happy, his shattered psyche now gets gratification from using his twisted humor to insult, frighten and unnerve his "audience"? But when Batman laughed at his joke at the conclusion of The Killing Joke, he seemed to enjoy it. Maybe that was because he was genuinely relieved that Batman didn't "beat the crap out of .." him? But again, here he seems almost disappointed Superman didn't get angry enough to want to hurt him. Maybe the writers intentionally use such inconsistency to make him seem more unpredictable? Or maybe they don't care about consistency? Maybe I shouldn't be looking for rhyme & reason in the behavior of a bat-§μ!+ crazy fictional character? 😲
@@ronn-ammon8975 It sure is easier to make people laugh through chemical (Joker Toxin) or forceful means than actually being funny. Imagine telling the Joker that even (insert your least favorite comedian) makes more people genuinely laugh than he ever will.
Ngl, i really like this version of Superman and Joker, he doesn't go overboard on him or totally scare him, he just sorta reminds him that Superman can take a nuke. Plus he's Joker, he's taken a lot worse than a graze from eye beams.
I honestly wanna see a comic that does the same, but with Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor. Imagine Bruce just waltzing into Lex' office, starting a friendly conversation with him, then plopping countless pictures of photo evidence that could actually get him in jail this time, along with threatening to buy out or drive out his company using Wayne industries. It could even finish with a like like "You're trying to fight an alien God, Lex. And yet, you yourself are barely more than just a man." It honestly baffles me that they haven't traded villains once in a while, considering the Joker and Lex are both only effective against their respective hero because of their mind-games and access to kryptonite.
Superman vs the Joker: very dangerous mind games, making sure that the joker ends up not finding anything funmy Batman vs Luthor: put down the laser gun or I'll buy half the company
To be fair, Luthor doesnt really neeeeed the kryptonite, he does often find other ways to match superman, depending on the interpretation. but you are right, Luthor's main defense against superman is hiding behind the law, and would leave himself vulnerable to batmans investigative skills.
Lex and Batman only work as characters when you realize the entire system is corrupt and they both exist because of it. Evidence literally wouldn't matter. Lex would call it a joke, and it would be.
Lex could legit defeat batman, Batmans greatest strength is hes mind but Lex has basically made a living on running through each of Batmans apocalypse plans and actually trying them out in superman. When it comes to combat Batmans superior martial prowess pales in comparison to Lex's arsenal thats meant to fight SUPERMAN of all things on the "legal/detective" side Lex is more than a match to beat batman or bruce in a legal battle (which at this point is about bribing with copious amounts of money)
I'm with superman on this one, this was so callous of Batman and it could have gone terribly wrong. Batman isn't a stranger to having his ideas blow up in his face: see Brother Eye and his contingency plans.
@@AnaMaria_2004 Batman is an absolute joke when it comes to the joker. If he actually wanted to dismantle the joker he could very easily. Except he doesn't, sure he has a code but he has killed before and killing the joker would be a great service to Gotham. One of the many inconsistencies with DC. Imo Joker is a D tier villain who is hyped up for no reason.
It's an interesting way to deal with a God-like character. In a normal confrontation, we already know who's going to win. Unless Joker has the magic rock he doesn't stand a chance. Superman, then, in knowing that he can win no matter what, is free to try and talk to people. To take the nice route, or do something weird. If it goes wrong he can win as easily as a single punch.
Superman basically reacted the exact opposite way of everything that the batman did. Batman always showed mercy to the joker. He always fell for his mind games and never laughed at his jokes. That's what made batman an entertaining person for the joker. If Joker has no interest in someone like superman and he realizes the situation he is in, then he is easily beaten.
also because joker often you know uses joker gas or creates a situation where if you do nothing people die honestly both joker and batman seem badly written the joker doesnt even seem like the type to use regular old bombs maybe as a way to get batman to play his game with him needing to do a thing otherwise the puppy orphanage explodes and joker doesnt seem like the kind of guy to go after the more light hearted superman joker cant exist without batman so this entire comic seems like bad writing
@@larsthememelord3383 not to mention, the joker is literally ontop of a the DAILY PLANET, and he didn't bother to read a single news article about superman? Like bro he didn't even know he has laser eyes. that's not prep time, that's called not trying.
In that conversation Joker was actually 100% accurate representation of the more edgy, fanatical side of batman fans. Especially after Supes started frustrating him Now i'm a batfan myself but on average Superman fans tend to be way more chill than my fellows and i respect that xd
Honestly, most Superman fans like Batman, he's a good friend and a good foil to Superman. We just don't like BatGod when he shows up in Batman's place.
" on average Superman fans tend to be way more chill" not really, not even close. Superman fans are overly aggressive just to mock Batman with arguments like "but he is just a HuMaN"
@@martinjugolin2087arrogant/egoistic flash? Which flash dude, flash is not arrogant even reverse flash and godspeed, he says he is the most humble superhero and they hate him. if flash is egoistic then batman is more egoistic than flash. so flash and batman argue about "gotham girl" (and flash is right) then batman thinks he can beat flash with his tool flash comes straight to batman's face before batman can touch the button and almost hits batman and he says "not worth it"
@@8630733isnt that every superhero dont they all impose their own view of justice upon others? difference is batman is human hes not some superpowered god he is mortal every fight he runs genuine risk in the end one bullet is all it takes also you are the him believing he is never wrong out of your ass he atleast actually works with law inforcement and his no kill rule makes sure that the villians get an actual fair trial. superman doesnt hes the man of steel he can catch every criminal and still have time for coffee and TV superman can rid the entire world of crime yet he doesnt, same goes for flash. superman lacking a no-kill rule is absolutely terrifying because now you can be killed without trial by some god to whom you never even stood a chance against he atleast isnt helping on the fragile states index (having fair jurisdiction is important on the index having a big blue judge jury and executioner doesnt help)
Nah I Superman didn’t kill the Joker because he had NO need to. He beat Joker at his own game before the Joker could even start. As he said “You don’t entertain someone of his caliber”That’s why Joker said Metropolis is boring and Supe said he’d kill him if he ever came back because it was seconds from being a disaster.
Honestly, this was great up until the part where it turned out to be a plan by Batman. These two should almost be like brothers, and Batman would never put the lives of innocents at risk like that. The stuff with Superman and Joker is great, if a bit on the nose, I think it's fair to point out that Superman doesn't kill, not as some rigid rule, but because he quite literally doesn't need to kill, if he did it would be excessive force 90% of the time, since he's so powerful, he can even take most super powered people in with little to no resistance. Joker and Superman reminds me of Batman Beyond fighting resurrected Joker, when Terry said- "Batman never talked to you much did he? That's probably why you were so fixated on him. I don't need a degree to figure you out. The real reason you kept coming back was because you never got a laugh out of the old man. Get a clue clowny, he's got no sense of humor. He wouldn't know a good joke if it bit him in the cape, not that you ever had a good joke. You make me laugh, but only because I think you're kind of pathetic."
What's funny is the other time the Joker he went to metropolis (Superman animated) he kidnapped Lois Lane, and then he went back again, this time tricking supes into ending her (Injustice). So he's dangerous.
We can assume that, like always, Batman was confident in his plan 100% that no civilian casualties would happen because, well, reasons. Also probably wasn't an exact plan, like the Joker got told by Batman to go fuck with Supes. Probably just figured he would sit and see what Supes would do in that situation. I guess anyway I don't know this comics connections let alone the fucking name since these comicbook youtubers never put the name in an easy to see spot, if at all.
@@colbyboucher6391 I could see that, but it doesn't really match the spirit of Batman at the end, which by your view would be the point. In my eyes though, it's very distracting since I've always seen Batman and Superman as being...for the lack of a better word, "better" than that. Since when it comes to what actually matters, they're a lot more similar than they are different from each other.
@@lostlambv2939 yeah i know but this is a more accurate interaction between the two. Besides in recent comics injustice superman is currently interacting with supermans son so anything goes in comics and universes always collide
@@jasonhearn5818 I mean, having your wife, your unborn child and your entire city vapourized by a madman who wanted attention would make anyone an emotional wreck. Remember, Frank Castle decided to just kill every criminal ever because someone completely unrelated murdered his wife and child. Imagine if they nuked NY.
emotionally reckless doesn't sound quite right though. I mean anybody that basically got acid tripped into killing their own pregnant wife, and also most of the city he calls home, is gonna result in some severe mental damage. The flaw was that AFTER the big initial event instead of supes grieving properly and eventually carrying on he just went straight up Professor Pyg "I'm gonna make you perfect whether you like it or not" evil.
This was great to see. I've never seen Superman done in a way that honours the spirit of the character and yet makes him so damn cold. I wanna see this version of superman in a film.
The best version of superman The kind, wise and lighthearted man whom grew up on a farm But knows how to be cold and have a backbone because he experienced city life
Superman also "does not kill" - humans especially - even without an explicitly formulated rule. He just won't allow a psychotic mass murderer to feel safe in his presence or (worse) take any form of pleasure out of interacting with him, which, in turn, is precisely the reason why Batman and Joker exist in such perfect symbiosis. They are the living embodiments of order and chaos and, in all honesty, they both have a fetish for proving their points. Clark simply breaks that cycle.
The assumption that Supes *didn't* disarm all those bombs (and disable the detonator to boot) at super-speed off panel before chucking them to Giggles the Murder Clown is a silly one. Clark is being written smart here. He wasn't leaving anything to chance, and that includes letting the loon blow himself up. Doesn't mean he had to tell Joker that. Letting him still think he had the option to go boom? Priceless. In the words of Slappy Squirrel (an infinitely better comedian than Joker), now that's comedy.
That bit about the code is important. Superman _does not have one_ like batman does. He's just a good person trying to do good things, and for the most part that means "don't kill people". This is also why superman doesn't injure people like Batman does - he doesn't believe that's good either, unless you earn that shit (which is why he backhanded batman into a car for putting people in danger to feed his ego). Batman, in contrast, will break everyone bone in your body, but he won't kill people _even when its insane or unethical not to_ because "Batman doesn't kill".
a corpse cant get a fair trial. superman is judge jury and executioner he decides justice and nobody can do anything about it. also batman changes drasticaly from writer to writer just look at adam west batman
Absolutely loved this take on Superman. I wish the writers did this with him more often. He is such a beast, but the writers always make him such a joke. So this was amazing.
I remember this. Especially the part where Supes says, "You're just another nobody in a costume, killing innocent people to hog an imaginary spotlight." OUCH... That hurts. And they say Superman can't roast anyone?? 😅😅😅😅
Joker: I'll be back. I'll be worse than this, you'll see. I'm going to figure out a way to hurt you, and then I'll be back to do it Supes: you sound so stupid right now. *Injustice intro opens up*
But later, in front of Batman, Superman admits that he actually knew Joker was a threat. The best way to neutralize him was to treat him like he wasn't a threat.... Because if he got mad or even showed that he found Joker a threat, Joker would have come again. Joker probably never thought he'd beat Superman, he just wanted the Super man's reaction...
@@Solo_man69 Screw that. Meta-Lois steps out from behind the Daily Planet globe and puts a bullet through Joker's brain right then and there. "We are *not* doing that again. I am sick of getting winding up in the metaphorical fridge for the sake of Clark's character development. Find some other motivation, you lazy hacks."
Kal-El does have a sense of humor, but he doesn't have a code against killing unlike Batman who will beat the crud out of you, but won't kill you. Kal-El will kill you if he thinks it needs to be done. Otherwise he'll stuff you into the Phantom Zone, and then make rude gestures at you.
@@dannylopez5976 I still find it weird and kinda stupid that Bats is willing to come up with entire plans that involve killing his closest friends but STILL won't even _consider_ killing Joker.
@@jahrusalem3658 Because Joker, as Batman, is human. the JL is mostly composed of aliens, gods/divine beings and metahumans. they ARE a threat on a global scale because they can sneeze and destroy a city. Joker is just a man. As Batman is. Batman cannot kill Joker because that would be his own end as human and, as he stated many times, if he kills even one criminal, then he would not be able to stop from using the same solution for other criminals. So...he cannot kill other humans, that would put him at the same level of criminals. And he can't even ask or allow the JL to kill Joker for him, because that would basically entitle them to feel superior to humankind, which won't do either. It would be easy on a practical level? yes, of course. But morally, it would be one hellish decision no matter how you look at it.
@@jahrusalem3658 because killing Joker doesn't require a plan, you just strike a little harder or use a gun, like in one issue where random cop just shot at Joker and almost killed him.
Great line by Superman, about how only a child would take a clown seriously. Bruce is still that traumatized child in an alley. That’s why he indulges his antics. This is a great little story. Also the hot topic joke is pretty meta considering they sell a crap ton of superhero licensed merch.
Superman is 100% correct on the Joker. Joker is the state of mind of someone who has given up, a sad and broken thing. Waking up and deciding to make things worse.
I love this. The conceited Batman thinking he's the better of them and even DARE to test Superman. This version of Superman is the one I would love to see, clever and restrain , but not indulging. He knows the kind of crap Joker is and his anger towards Batman is totally justified. Batman has failed his own test. He let Joker hurt the people he cared the most ;and has the nerve to lecture Clark. I know the plot have to make them look as equals , but Superman is FAR superior to Batman. And not just power. Batman ALWAYS fails when it comes to Joker. Jason Todd , Barbara Gordon and hundreds of people hurt or killed by the Joker are proof enough. The thing with Superman is restrain, that's his deal. He could have ripped off Joker's head without him even noticing it. The crossovers and the JLA had to nerf Superman so the Alliance is justified. Anyway, this story is a rare case of writers showing how powerful Superman really is.
Kal-El could have just grabbed Joker , flown to the moon then dropped Joker, and waved bye,bye. Joker is really lucky not to have.. well I won't go any further.
I mean.. Superman's whole deal is that he will always hold back. or he Might destroy everything around him. yup, his breathing could end everything probably.
@@TheManWhoFlys22 you know that only happens bc the writers suck off batman every time right? there's simply no way a human being could ever have a chance against Superman who doesn't even need to be close to you to kill you, he can literally throw a meteor to your general direction and kill you
This was just a writer's commentary and breakdown of the Joker and Superman. And I freaking love it Acknowledging that without any writer nerfing Superman, there's no way in hell a villain with no powers is going to threaten him. (Joker really should've brought Kryptonite) And the talk about him being generic and vague giving him the ability to surprise people was great...As well as him straight up hitting Batman for "Testing" him. I mean, what the fuck Bruce
Agreed. I think one way a non-superpowered villain can actually give Superman trouble is to have such good publicity and (outside of being a supervillain) do lots of good like donating to charities, that Superman feels conflicted about stopping them
@@K1ngmo_MB Exactly joker vs superman is one sided superman stomp, Lex vs Batman would have Lex give him a run for hes money or even beat him, cause most of the time batmans suits wouldnt be as good as Lex, yes batman prepares to fight superman but Lex actually fights superman multiple times he has more theory making supersuits he has straight up practice. (The hellbat being the exception but bruce didnt even make that one it was League effort)
“You call yourself the Joker, and i’m not allowed to laugh?”
Poor Super Man, he was so genuine too 😆😅
No, he wasn't. He was just making time to find all the other bombs across the city. But from the beginning, he took Joker's menace seriously, and decided to play on the mad clown's terms in order to win.
@@mauriciomongoy2025dude keep an eye on him all the time. Dude literally got speed almost equal to The Flash, that’s why he got all the the bomb in like nano second
@@LionsinofStraight Well he's nowhere near Flash speed, but that really doesn't change much with how arbitrarily fast The Flash is.
@@elowin1691DC and Marvel as a whole are WAY too arbitrary because they always write themselves into corners by making everyone way too powerfull.
Even here, what was stoping sups from just snaging the bomb remote out of jokers hand in a milisecond and breaking it or even firing a weak heat vision beam at his hand to make him drop it or just break it altright? Even if sups is not ok to go straight for kill (he does kill but is not trigger happy about it) he could extremely easily disarm the joker and just stare at him with crossed arms and a look of disapointment. This is also kinda of a poor write on the joker because often times he is ridiculously smart and has as many contingencies, backups and twists to his plans to pull out of his metaphorical ass than batman himself.
Joker "All it takes is one bad day"
Superman "Cool story bro"
😂
Spider-Man: 🤨
@CharaGonzalez-lt7yw He always has a bad week, you and me both know the writers despise him.
What a lot of folk, Joker included, forget is that he was proven wrong in the Killing Joke. He was trying tae drive Gordon insane.
He failed. Gordon flat out ordered Batman tae bring Joker in without killing him.
@@SCOOBMAN what I don't understand is why they hate him
"Being Superman doesn't mean I'm *greater* than anyone. But it does mean I'm *better* than *you* ."
Man, it's refreshing to see a writer who really gets Superman.
'I stand for something - a better future, where nobody needs a Superman. What do *you* stand for?'
IN - YOUR - FACE. Stone cold reality. Superman calling someone out. About time.
1+1=4 OK
Joker is nihilistic. He just wants to make the world burn & watch the aftermath. Norman Osborne or Mysterio would make goulash out of him, Loki would turn him into a SLUG. NICK FURY would lock him in a Hulk - proof cell just like he did to LOKI. Tony Stark would SMART ASS him to death.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq not really sure why any of that is relevant, but okay.
thats great, supes isnt an ego proud d,.ick head, hes pretty chill but in this case a oody two shoes saying that to the edgelord crimeboss really twist the knife on the''insult''lol
The idea of Superman being kind but definitely not “nice” is an interpretation that needs to be explored more.
The entire idea that "kindness" and "niceness" are not the same thing needs to be explored more.
I have had people give me great kindness while calling me every name under the sun, and others be bastions of niceness while hurting me casually.
It's so good. Nice is a formality, it keeps you out of trouble. Nice makes bland small talk.
Kind is an affair of the heart. Kind starts a conversation asking how your sister is handling chemotherapy, when you only mentioned it once in passing.
He acts like a God in the old traditional sense if pressed he'll flex as much as he needs to but you see the full extent of his power which in my opinion makes him the ultimate bad ass
@@leejee88 … so basically how God actually is.
Except this Superman is also nice. He’s even genuinely laughing at Joker’s jokes. He just has a limit. Joker (and Batman to a lesser extent) obviously went past that limit. Niceness is a core part of Superman’s character too.
I love how for the majority of the comic, Supes treated Joker like, well, a joke. But in the very last few panels you find out that internally, he took him VERY seriously. I love that sort of writing
I think that's just how Superman is, he takes every villain seriously, even if he doesn't show it on the surface, or if he realistically has no reason too.
@@Noobie2k7he takes a random bank robber with a pistol as seriously as he takes Lex. He knows that even he isn’t perfect and anything could happen.
@@Prince_Luci it makes me wonder if batman has some type of hubris thinking he is actually in control of very much.. like.. superman who is all powerful has the humility to know anything could happen and even though superman has some of the most power he doesn't act like he is completely in control and it even bothers him other ppl dont understand this but then batman has the nerve and naive audacity to tell an all powerful guy that he has it under control..
like if it bothers superman of all people what kind of self centered douche would act like they know better? batman lol
@@D_Vice88 Bats def has a world shatteringly large ego. And while it’s partially justified, even Superman has the ability to admit he isn’t perfect.
Well you can treat a stupid person as stupid, but never underestimating their stupid level to do stupid things
Superman: A test huh? Well since we are doing this, here, have mine.
*Doomsday starts trashing Gotham*
Wow you really set this into perspective, props 👏
Nah that's too tame:
*Lex Corps starts destroying Wayne Enterprises stock*
@@raidenpainn1561 If Lex every tried any business in Gotham.
You can bet the Joker would be hell on his plans and the Penguin would worm his way into his business for every stock it's worth.
Lmao
@@magnusm4lex Luthor is one of the smartest characters in DC, those guys have no chance at doing anything to him, usually he’s the one manipulating them
Joker: *Insults Superman*
Superman: *Laughs, calls the Joker a nobody who isnt worth his time*
Joker: *Develops PTSD*
Therapist: "Okay, you got roasted by superman and now you have PTSD?"
Joker: "Yes"
Therapist: "He was right"
Joker: *commits suicide*
@@MominEnjoyer good
@@MominEnjoyerJason: "Now that's a killing joke."
@@MominEnjoyer The Joker's death ending what we wanted
Clark gave him the Terry treatment. 💀💀
Batman: "joker's a psychopath, he planned all this. It's all a mind game."
Superman: "it's not that deep bro."
It kinda is
@@martinjugolin2087 Nah😁.
@@arandomguy299 depression and edge lords are deep
@@martinjugolin2087 Joker is not that edgy in this comic ngl💀
Michael Scott: "that's what she said"
"Next time Joker comes to Metropolis, he won't make it home"
Cold af! 🥶
Thats My Superman. He can get the job done without falling into darknes
Is that a threat or an incentive? Sounds like an incentive to me.
Sounds like a solution to me lol@@acgearsandarms1343
When it comes to dealing with Batman? Yeah, Superman has learned to be cold with him. If Batman is going to play his games, Superman will drop the "boy scout" and remind him of his mortality. Because unlike Bruce, Superman doesn't have a code or a promise holding him back, just a choice.
After all, that's what they are here for with one another: to remind one another that they are not invincible and keep the other in check. Batman was leaving his check by letting Joker run wild in Superman's city, so Superman put him back in check by reminding him that only HE cares about the Joker, not Superman.
Jesus Christ. “Any writer could write you, any actor could play play you. All they need to do is is make up their own version and people will applaud them. But NO ONE will ever applaud YOU” that is by far the most brutal dissection of the Jokers entire being that I’ve ever heard and it is from Superman, and not even from Injustice.
I guess, if you dont take in the reality of it
I guess the question is, is that a good or bad thing? Almost every version of the joker in media is pretty good. I mean, is it even entirely true?
@@BlueTyphoon2017 That’s the point. Iterations of the Joker in film and comic are amazing characters. But if the Joker were real and did all the awful things he had done, he would be an irredeemable monster.
and it's not the joker thematically that ppl really enjoy, it's elements of the joker that individual writers give him. by himself the joker is just a two-bit clown villain, it's his multiple iterations that make him so well-regarded. compare to spiderman, who just on his face thematically as a character is unique and worthy of praise, and that's not bc 'oh xyz's parker run was great' or 'tobey maguire played such a great spiderman' it's bc the themes of spiderman themself were really cool and each portrayal is just an adaptation of those themes
That line was so brutal it had me feeling like I was about to cry due to hurt feelings lmao
When the writers actually like Superman.
When there finally isn't an over-abundance of kryptonite.
When superman is away from ridiculous plot armor like the failsafe storyline
@@alduintheanti-dragonborn I took a dump yesterday and found some kryptonite near my bathtub. Sold it off to Lex Luthor
@@RamenBlox Found some kryptonite in my ass this morning, how much do they go for? I'm trying to get a good deal
@@RamenBlox I honestly read that as you taking a dump and kryptonite came out, which honestly given how there's so much fucking kryptonite in DC, I'd believe it.
This is a perfectly written Superman. He’s like that dude who can fight but is a constant diffuser. But push too far and he’s the scariest character in comics.
It’s not really a perfectly written Superman. He’s written like how a fanboy would write him. Like a regular guy who seems completely capable of snapping and murdering people if he has a bad day.
This comic would completely validate Batman’s fear and distrust of Superman and his power.
ehhh nahh@@Random1567
@@Random1567Not really.
@@Random1567 Joker in any interpretation is a mass murderer. In long running interpretations he has repeatedly shown that penal institutions cannot hold him and he has no intention of reforming, immediately going back to inciting fear and death among civilians as soon as he was able. Frankly by this point Joker is less a test of a hero's restraint then he is an example of the perils of not taking decisive action when needed. This Superman is showing awareness of this and has basically put the hard line of 'you have had one chance with me, I am not going to give you another if you decide to threaten those I protect again'. Frankly the whole superman vs batman dynamic has always felt poorly written to their characters to me but if I was to judge this scenario I would say it was batman who earned fear and distrust not Superman.
@@Random1567 most regulars guys actually arent capable of snapping and murdering someone lmao, seek mental help
What people don't notice is that in front of the Joker, he acts like the man is no threat, and idiot and laughs. But the moment the Joker isn't in front of him, Superman acknowledges what kind of threat Joker actually is...
So Superman didn't actually think that Joker was a joke, but instead realized that the best way to stop the man was to instead ruin his fun. By doing that, Joker no longer had any interest in going to Metropolis...
As Superman stated, you shouldn't indulge the Joker...
Terry figured this out a long time ago.
@@megaman37456 That's why Terry likes Superman more despite being the new Batman
@@megaman37456 Terry Crews?
@@victordeluca7360 Terry McGinnis
@@victordeluca7360 this man really said Terry Crews 💀
Love the part where Superman calls Joker Batman's 'playmate'. Even he sees no logic in even letting that guy breathe.
Lol, Red Hood would laugh at Batman.
Superman considering Batman a friend and ally is just as crazy and has no real logic to hold on either
But it is as Batman once said, he's just a man, and Superman and other heroes can easily kill him if they wanted to as well. They have the ability. Sups just reminded him of that fact with the Joker.
"If you cross the line, I won't hesitate to kill you. Just as you would do the same to me." (It may hurt him, but he'd do it)
@@girl1213 Why can't Superman consider him a friend? He grew up in Kansas and are friends with so many regular humans like Jimmy Olsen and Perry White. Batman is also allied with Oracle/Barbara even though she can no longer fight due to her disability.
@@girl1213 Superman and Batman usually get along just fine afaik. Batman made a huge gamble here that Superman wouldn’t tolerate, but that doesn’t make them enemies, and even at the end of the comic he wasn’t threatening to kill Batman, he was threatening to put down the Joker.
He watched his friend do something stupid and told them he wouldn’t stand for it, nothing more.
@@TheWorkersNewspaper1994 It's often brought up concerning the darker side of the Dark Knight
JLA: Tower of Babel is one of the prime stories talking about Batman's dangerous ability to use his brain against them. And the Injustice League series shows the two of them on different sides of the conflict. There's a lot of examples that prove Bruce has a darkness within him that Superman doesn't (normally) have.
And don't forget All-Star Batman (The "God-Damn Batman")
These are all true realities of the characters and how easily it could have been. It's not just a one-off. It's a hard truth.
Even the mainstream Batman and Superman can admit they have clashes and fights and disagreements that have led them fist-fighting one another.
This is just Superman vs the average Superman hater💀🙏
Superman vs Snyder: Dawn of bad writing
Weakest Superman fan vs the Strongest Superman hater.
I still hate him though.
Him preferring to be boring might work in universe but I have no interest in him as a consumer.
@@wikipediaintellectual7088gay
@@wikipediaintellectual7088gay
Man, Superman is so chill. Why can’t the movies ever capture his calmness? He’s just a SuperDude.
I think the recent shows (superman and Lois + the new animated one) have captured it.
Hopefully gunn does superman justice because man im sick of the "what if he was EVIL" or the "he's alien Jesus!" angles.
@@draysmusicalshtposts6340 "Alien Jesus" is especially annoying since alien Moses makes so much more sense.
It's called Man of Steel. Came out in 2013.
@@Auron1Roxas2 are you kidding?
@mdbsonic5772 Edgy profile picture with a kingdom hearts reference in the hame? Yup theyre genuine lol
"Batman has a no-kill rule"
"I'm not Batman"
the fact that Superman throws Batman's ideologies back at Joker just to tell him "I could kill you if I wanted to" is genius. sure to rattle someone who's so confident that the hero won't just outright kill him
I think there's one crossover comic when the Joker meets the Punisher. Joker assumed Punisher would send him to jail like Batman always does. Once Joker realized just who he was dealing with, he basically shat himself
This makes superman a worse hero
@@martinjugolin2087 Nah, Batman's the worse hero. Superman knows how to get things done if he needs to
I'm not sure I can think of a marvel hero who wouldn't either kill the joker or let him die in one of his own plots.
@@Woogoo336 as they damn well should
So nice to see a superman thats both incredibly patient/smart, but also doesnt screw around or let people treat him like an idiot
It's so nice to see Superman written well. He's a decent, respectful fellow with very strong moral convictions and a desire to use his strength to spend his life helping people. Superman very carefully considers his every action because his immense power allows him to do almost anything, and the responsibility is enormous. As you'd imagine, he *despises* a person like the Joker. Barely anyone is a threat to Superman, so he takes no pleasure in hurting people. He uses exactly the right amount of force, both physical and psychological, to scare the Joker into submission and make the game boring and punishing for him. He doesn't even hold it against the Joker, after Superman had judged he'd shredded the Joker's pride badly enough he was more angry at Batman for letting this guy run around endangering people.
The last bit where he's laughing at Joker's quip about Hot Topic is great, Superman's like "haha, screw you Batman, he's right, you all look like you're in mourning".
@@bluegum6438then you have injustice Superman that gets absolutely hoodwinked by the jonkler. The issue is when Superman is “written well” nobody else is, because in order for Superman to be “well written” he needs to pretty much solve every issue instantly and never be seen as weak or anything like that. A “well written” Superman is boring, like the joker says lol.
@@OhImSaucy I don't think that's correct, what you're describing is actually bad writing
I think Superman is generally written very poorly and this here is one of the only examples of him being an interesting character
@@OhImSaucyomg this is a smellier take than my sisters diapers
@@Devilspade why you sniffing her diaper?
Superman: "I don't have a code. I just don't generally kill people."
The "monsters" that Superman fights. Yeah, nobody, not even the law, is going to argue with HIM if it comes to that.
Exactly. And they are monsters from Darkseid to Doomsday but hey he believes in goodness. People don't seem to care when a certain space monkey with an orange gi and black hair spares people for believing in goodness.
@@TheUnseenPath Missing the point. Superman is saying he just GENERALLY doesn't kill people. GENERAL-ly is funny because he's killed Zod a few times (multiverses and things, and the best joke in the story if you read it like that). He's THREATENING to make an exception and kill the Joker. Not throw him a magic bean and let him try again.
I love both Superman and Goku for the record.
@@TheUnseenPathcalling him a monkey is crazy
@@glitchy3963 I mean, it's what Frieza calls him
@@glitchy3963 He literally IS a monkey though. He's a primate with a tail, that's a monkey.
Finally a writer who doesn't give street level characters plot armor.
Totally! Any other random writer will over power Joker over Superman like wtf
@@spkoftdvl it's a matter of popularity. As joker says superman is vague. This is a throwback to fans not wsnting superman but he's vague. but such great power can come with deep character if the writers use their head.
Exactly, it’s so annoying seeing Joker 🃏 win situations he should stand no chance in. About time he gets wrecked as easily as he should by someone like Superman.
@@MadMax-ii8gq Eh, he's got a lower-tier version of the Deadpool 4th-waller thing going for him.
So... Almost quite literal plot armor.
@@patchwurk6652not even close to Deadpool’s plot amor and 4 wall breaking, the best I can say for joker is he’s a fucking lucky dude, but not even close to Deadpool’s plot armor
Superman: So it was a test then?
Batman: Yes. And you fail---
Superman: No no no no stop. Let's talk about about how you let a potentially dangerous psychopath loose in my city just because you wanted to test me.
Superman: I was testing you by asking if it was a test, and YOU failed. Do you know what we call someone who lets dangerous psychos loose on other people to see what happens? A supervillain, Bruce.
that frankly seemed out of character for Batman. He realizes, like Superman does, that Joker is a dangerous maniac, he wouldn't let him do whatever he wants. He would go to Metropolis and help. It's not the Condiment King, it's the Joker, the only man Batman seriously considers to kill, many times. Letting him plant bombs in Metropolis, just to test Superman is crazy talk
A nice little reminder of why the Injustice universe is just that: an alternate universe. 99 times out of 100, Joker will fail at threatening or corrupting Superman. Not only because Clark is genuinely smart and clever enough to not fall for the Joker’s crap, but also because Superman acknowledges that 1 in 100 chance exists. This is why he shows up at the bat cave later on to lecture Batman. Bruce of all people should have known that setting up social experiments involving the Joker is playing with fire and that he should have known better.
Then again, I think why Joker succeeded in the Injustice verse is that with Luthor being an actual good guy in there, there was nobody willing to psychologically push Superman until he snapped.
i like the idea of the joker always winning against batman but being out of his comfort zone with superman....however joker could very easily break him if he knew enough about him which makes it a fun dynamic of "keep him in your city, you have nothing to lose"
injustice superman wasn't exactly a boy scout when he was growing up either, he was slightly twisted from the start, hence why he was corruptible in the first place
@@A-Microwave yep , Injustice Superman wasn't really a boy scout , there are plenty things that changed in the very origins of multiple heroes in Injustice Universe.
@@AvengerofWarcraft
For want of a nail, Metropolis was destroyed.
The fact superman found the joker funny is the best part because it's mostly dark humor wich means superman is into dark humor.
Nah, Superman is just a soft hearted person so he's humouring the Joker.
Psychological entrapment.
The things he laughed at are pretty basic jokes you'd probably be able to hear at any ole stand up routine, not even close to dark humor.
Not coming at you.. this is just a really big mischaracterization of the scene that ignores all of the context in the scene.
Dark humor is funny
Not really; it was a basic joke...
"I don't have a code. I just generally don't kill people." I love that line. It's not even Superman saying that it's right to kill or that he likes doing it. But Superman believes that his powers give him certain responsibilities. It would be unethical for Superman to turn some mugger's head into paste, because of the hilarious power discrepancy between the two. Even here, he doesn't immediately kill Joker but plays along with his game for a little bit, because he doesn't HAVE to kill Joker to stop him. But if a villain is going to hurt thousands of people unless he's stopped immediately? Superman's responsibility is to protect people, not criminals. He'll do what he has to.
yeah ultimately the rigidity of "it's never okay to kill one being to save many" is flawed - superman is powerful enough that he *usually* doesn't have to kill anyone but would if the good outweighed the bad. And if it leaves some sort of 'moral stain' or feelings of guilt on a person that's a burden he's also willing to take.
I *_love_* this version of Superman so much. It's exactly how I could see a realistic version of him.
This is how writer are supposed to write Superman
I mean he is almost as fast as flash...and can fly...he can just metroman whole metropolis...
@@tonuahmed4227 He's almost as fast as the Flash until the Flash gets serious
Flash can literally stop time and make it go backwards,he's on a different level...
@@tonuahmed4227 so can superman. But flash is still faster.
So glad Superman pimp slapped Batman across the room. Batman’s needed that for a long time now. The writers actually showed Superman some respect this time.
So that’s what happened ..
Thx, I thought he’d wrecked his ride
😂😂
@@Joe-xo4yg He should’ve trashed the Batmobile for good measure 🤣🤣
@@Joe-xo4yg He did only that, literally on the next panel we see Batman still standing on the same spot while Supes moves away from the Batwreck towards him...
Exactly. Fuck batman
Batman hater so cringe
Injustice if the Spiderman writers never migrated:
Brooooooo facts
Injustice if the writers liked the dc universe, and not just batman:
@@shawerful5209DC has a huge Batman problem, the writers love him TOO much. If you ask me, Batman should not even be in the Justice League, he should be like Spiderman or Dare Devil, characters who occasionally help the main group of heroes but are never full time members
This actually what I've been waiting for, for a long time: someone to TRULY humiliate the Joker and unmask him as the embarassing edgelord he truly is.
Amogus
Ye ig the comics both like to retcon themselves good ont tho
Jason Todd technically did it too when he told the Joker he isn’t ask insane as he likes people to think he is
lame. They nerfed Jokers intellect in this one
@@carlosandleon Wrong, they removed his plot armour.
I like how Superman easily defeated the Joker without compromising who he is and what he stands for. I also like how Superman expressed his anger at Batman for letting the Joker go to Metropolis as part of a test for Superman. Superman may be a good guy, but that doesn't mean he can't get angry at lives being put at risk.
Good doesn't mean pushover. Especially when no one signed up for your nonsense and it might get people killed.
Whatever
I understand why he's mad, bat's really shouldn't be doing shit like that but bitch slapping him is pretty uncalled for and just unwise when he's literally one of like 5 people that can regularly lay soups out
@@Maxsmack prep time moment
@@ivettrivera5306 batman needed 32 quadrillion minutes of prep time to defend that slap
Batman doesn't seem to realize that while Superman isn't QUITE the same level of genius as Batman is, he is still very, VERY intelligent. The irony of their relationship is that Batman constantly underestimates Superman, but Superman NEVER underestimates Batman.
You don't even have to be smart when you can use the sun as a punching bag.
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 Indeed. The fact that Kal-El *is* smart is just a bonus.
To add to Clark's intelligence, he's literally a journalist! It's also his job to find out the truth using evidence.
i like the bat but its really frustrating how overtime hes just such an untouchable status quo character and its handwaved as simply: hes smarter than everyone else and whats worse often other characters gab the idiot ball to make him look even smarter
its nice when writers remember Supes isnt some brute lol
Uh, what's with this comment? Superman in the League is only less smarter than martian manhunter, who is actually the smartest living being in the earth.
"You can do that?"
"I can do lots of stuff"
has got to be one of the best villain/hero exchanges I've ever read
LMAO
For real though, glad I discovered this, these two together and this portrayal of superman is perfect, wonder who the artist is too, phenomenal, the characters don't consistently look the same
I mean, the last person I heard making that threat was *Bill Cipher.*
With the amount of control Superman has in his abilities he could kill any one of his rogues with ease. They should be thankful that Clark grew up to be kind and not a person with a god complex.
what about superboy prime💀
@mr amyr xxx
That’s a different au tho
Injustice moment
@@BOOPBEEP859 same Clark Kent
Superman and Spider-Man are similar in that fashion.
After reading Death in/of the Family, the Killing Joke, and “The Fall” story from Arkham Knight. Hearing a symbol of Truth, Justice, and Hope tell this narcissistic mass murdering bastard that he ain’t shit is really satisfying.
"B-b-but Superman is boring!" Dude grew up knowing he had the ability to do literally anything with his powers and chose to help people instead of becoming a villain. Being a morally upstanding person isn't boring, especially in a world with so much cruelty. Dark and brooding is boring, bring back hope and optimism.
Thank you for correctly and succinctly answering one of the most frustrating Superman criticisms of all time.
So true. That is why I think Superman is one of the superheroes that people only appreciate when they get a bit older. Or at least I did.
The idea that someone with all that power chooses to ALWAYS do good, to remain hopeful despite the hopelessness of the world…you that realize that IS the subversion, and, more than that, is deeply inspirational.
I think he's boring. At least the One Punch Man series is self-aware about how absurd an infinitly powerful character is.
@@m0ther_bra1ned12 superman was first made like 100 years ago. You can't compare the very first god-like syperhero to one made in the last decade, the landscape of the genre and comic culture is completely different now.
If you love Superman then you'll definitely love Optimus Prime too. Also Jonathan Joestar
Superman genuinely got the Joker depressed enough to just surrender...
Also Superman didn't slap Batman, he just destroyed the Batmobile. If Superman slapped Batman hard enough to flip the Batmobile, then Batman would have been turned to a splatter...
He would turn into Splatman.
And with kryptonite superman turns into coughman
Yeah that’s true and plus we would see Batman on top of a broken Batmobile but in these comic strips we don’t see that.
@@martinjugolin2087and with pink kryptonite he turns into gayman
@@martinjugolin2087except Batman having Kryptonite doesn't make sense
If the Krypton fragments are in space it'd take decades or centuries to find just one of them
If they however "landed" on earth then a few hundred dino-asteroids would've crashed onto earth and eradicated humanity
Batman’s no kill rule and Superman not having one, reminds me a lot of this one Doctor who Quote
“Good men don’t need rules, today is not the day to find out why I have so many.”- the 11th Doctor
I'd love to see the Joker vs the MASTER. Using the matter condenser / " shrink ray " which usually KILLS.
Superman: Actually scares the Joker into never coming back to Metropolis by threatening to kill him.
Batman: "wELl yoU SEe, YoU FAileD thE tESt becAuse You cOMpromiSed-"
Superman: Bitch slap "Who asked?"
"compromised what? i never said i had a code. i just don't do it cause i don't think i should. Until I do. Because it'd be easy. Easier than it would be for you, anyway."
Batman: *scowls*
I find it outright funny that super man is meant to be better than the dark scary Batman but in reality their moral code when pushed I’d drastically different cus to Batman what happened to super man in injustice is just his daily life when his loved ones get hurt
I don't think Superman failed, Joker eventually got bored and left with no incentive to return.
@@Solo_man69 Tyler from Imaginary Axis convinced me that Batman NEEDS a code because he IS insane. In having a code on a piece of paper, written of lines he thinks he shouldn't cross, is helpful for himself. Insanity isn't a psychological term, it's a legal term with legal definitions; a person who is insane are those who can not differentiate right from wrong and wrong from right. Superman isn't immoral for not having a code like Batman, Kal-El knows right from wrong because he was raised right then Bruce who has many unresolved family issues.
@@aut0mat1c11 yup pa and ma made it clear be nice kind and fair,but if it doesn't work kick thier ass.
Injustice: true good ending
Technically it literally is the true good ending cus it’s canon
If only
Sounds more like a prequel, actually.
Like, after that, Joker came back with an actual devious plan that killed millions.
@@goblinounours this sounds like a good prequel lol. Joker always gets the last laugh.
@@Solo_man69 So there IS a canon? I thought Marvel and DC didn't bother to have an actual continuity at this point
Joker got humbled.
This made me appreciate Superman. As a kid I thought he "boring" too, but now that I'm older I realize that's the point. That's how he likes things. I like how well written this Superman is, makes want to actually read the comic.
Honestly, stuff like this is why Superman is one of my favourite heroes. Some people call him boring or a "goody too shoes" but I've always just seen him as a pretty cool and nice dude. The kind of guy you could just go out for a few drinks with and it it would be a chill time.
I think hes boring and terrifying to think about
For me, that depends more on his portrayal. This portrayal of Superman is AMAZING, but you don't always get this kind of respect for him.
To write Superman, you need to write a Good Person who is Pretending to be the Best Person imaginable
This version in particular seems a bit more on the scary side. I prefer the more wholesome versions.
@@matthewjutzen424i mean to be fair he’s dealing with a terrorist. he kind of has to be scary.
God I love how the illustrator is able to make Superman look pretty friendly or generally unintimidating, not even looking super buff or anything, to making him look insanely terrifying with shading around the face. Being able to see Clark's eyes almost acts as the visual way of humanizing him. Even during the part where he tells Joker he's better than him, frowning and all he still looks more like just an upset father. But as soon as you look over, his eyes being obscured by his prepping his laser vision makes him incredibly terrifying.
Got that Saitama emotes on lock
Its JOCK who did the Brilliant art here (foolishly not visually noted anywhere).
> Check out his DETECTIVE COMICS _Black Mirror_ story. Its an Easy Batman TOP 10 #MustRead story!
_Jock,_ also just recently drew & wrote _A ONE DARK KNIGHT_ Batman one-off story, via DC BLACK LABEL (A magazine sized 140pg graphic novel). I had herd it was good.
That's why Superman refuses to use any sort of mask. He wants people to be able to look him in the eye and trust him.
He embraced his inner Homelander
Holy shit that was the most brutal meta roast on a character I ever saw, and they say Superman is too much a goodie to play non-boy scout.
TO EVERY RULE.....
Not even the universe where Superman punched a hole in Joker's stomach was as brutal a dissection as what he did to him here.
Heck, Injustice Joker likely considered being murdered by Superman to be the pinnacle of comedy, getting a good guy to do evil and so on.
Here? A good guy is doing good and not fearing him in the slightest
@@llewelynshingler2173 take his gimmicks away, his tricks & toys & he's a sad pathetic waste of genetic material with a fragile ego..
To be fair, “you all shop at the same hot topic” is a pretty good joke
Superman found Joker's weakness: Emotional damage.
I never understood the Joker. He doesn't want people to laugh at his jokes, doesn't want anyone else to make them, and at least once to my knowledge he killed a comedian. His interest in humor is actually extremely narrow- it's like to him, it's just a weapon. Not something to be enjoyed on its own, not something to share, something that's just for him. He's actually pretty depressing...
He's the biggest joke of all.
@@Hekinsieden Burn.
@@HekinsiedenNow THAT'S a punchline
Considering that, in some versions of his past, Joker was a failed comedian who desperately wanted to make people laugh; as echoed here when he says "You try and you try. You go out there every night and you give them your best stuff ...".; it's pretty weird that he'd get upset that Superman laughed at his jokes. Maybe it's been so long since anyone (other than Harley maybe) has complimented his humor he dosen't know how to react anymore? Maybe because his humor couldn't get real laughs and make people happy, his shattered psyche now gets gratification from using his twisted humor to insult, frighten and unnerve his "audience"? But when Batman laughed at his joke at the conclusion of The Killing Joke, he seemed to enjoy it. Maybe that was because he was genuinely relieved that Batman didn't "beat the crap out of .." him? But again, here he seems almost disappointed Superman didn't get angry enough to want to hurt him. Maybe the writers intentionally use such inconsistency to make him seem more unpredictable? Or maybe they don't care about consistency? Maybe I shouldn't be looking for rhyme & reason in the behavior of a bat-§μ!+ crazy fictional character? 😲
@@ronn-ammon8975 It sure is easier to make people laugh through chemical (Joker Toxin) or forceful means than actually being funny. Imagine telling the Joker that even (insert your least favorite comedian) makes more people genuinely laugh than he ever will.
Ngl, i really like this version of Superman and Joker, he doesn't go overboard on him or totally scare him, he just sorta reminds him that Superman can take a nuke. Plus he's Joker, he's taken a lot worse than a graze from eye beams.
Superman is nice, but he does not tolerate bullshit.
Superman had a great strategy. Make sure Joker didn’t find the situation entertaining.
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@@pustota7254 Damn, he's GREAT !
I honestly wanna see a comic that does the same, but with Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor.
Imagine Bruce just waltzing into Lex' office, starting a friendly conversation with him, then plopping countless pictures of photo evidence that could actually get him in jail this time, along with threatening to buy out or drive out his company using Wayne industries. It could even finish with a like like "You're trying to fight an alien God, Lex. And yet, you yourself are barely more than just a man."
It honestly baffles me that they haven't traded villains once in a while, considering the Joker and Lex are both only effective against their respective hero because of their mind-games and access to kryptonite.
Superman vs the Joker: very dangerous mind games, making sure that the joker ends up not finding anything funmy
Batman vs Luthor: put down the laser gun or I'll buy half the company
To be fair, Luthor doesnt really neeeeed the kryptonite, he does often find other ways to match superman, depending on the interpretation. but you are right, Luthor's main defense against superman is hiding behind the law, and would leave himself vulnerable to batmans investigative skills.
Lex and Batman only work as characters when you realize the entire system is corrupt and they both exist because of it.
Evidence literally wouldn't matter. Lex would call it a joke, and it would be.
@@parry3439LOL
Lex could legit defeat batman, Batmans greatest strength is hes mind but Lex has basically made a living on running through each of Batmans apocalypse plans and actually trying them out in superman.
When it comes to combat Batmans superior martial prowess pales in comparison to Lex's arsenal thats meant to fight SUPERMAN of all things on the "legal/detective" side Lex is more than a match to beat batman or bruce in a legal battle (which at this point is about bribing with copious amounts of money)
"If I had powers, I'd be like Joker or Homelander"
Also bro if he was given powers:
The Joker doesn't have powers
@@JoeContext I'm saying that if bro had powers he would be like superman
@bacon_with_brussels_sprout Damn, you really love your bro, huh?
@@Orange_Swirlhe knows bro is really a good person on the inside
Jesus the different looks Superman gives in this comic is top tier. From extremely friendly to smiling and relaxed to threatening with red eyes.
I'm with superman on this one, this was so callous of Batman and it could have gone terribly wrong. Batman isn't a stranger to having his ideas blow up in his face: see Brother Eye and his contingency plans.
batman is like the programmer trying to design a user experience without any understanding of how to design an app lol
no shit you are on his side, the writers made batman looks like an asshole here
Project OMAC
@@parry3439Elon Musk truly is Bruce Wayne
Agreed, Batman should be ashamed of himself for pulling this. I'm glad Superman put his foot down and knocked Batman down a peg
Finally, a Superman storyline in which Superman is smart, cool, tough and gets the upper hand over Batman. More please.
SECONDED !
He has beaten batman many times
Superman proving he's superior to Batman once again by completely dismantling the Joker in an easy conversational way
Only Superman could, Batman has no superpowers with which to detect and dismantle the bimbas while conversing with the Joker
@@AnaMaria_2004 Batman is an absolute joke when it comes to the joker. If he actually wanted to dismantle the joker he could very easily. Except he doesn't, sure he has a code but he has killed before and killing the joker would be a great service to Gotham. One of the many inconsistencies with DC. Imo Joker is a D tier villain who is hyped up for no reason.
@@l6e6i6nlet’s use current Rebirth continuity as I am pretty sure this is a Rebirth story. Name a time where Batman has killed out of his own choice.
# 0001 Jason Todd did nothing wrong.........did I do the meme right?
It's an interesting way to deal with a God-like character.
In a normal confrontation, we already know who's going to win. Unless Joker has the magic rock he doesn't stand a chance.
Superman, then, in knowing that he can win no matter what, is free to try and talk to people. To take the nice route, or do something weird. If it goes wrong he can win as easily as a single punch.
Supes and Terry McGinnis
Both knowing the best way to beat Joker is to make fun of him 🤝
I reaaaally like this version of superman. The "vague means unpredictable" idea is fun.
Superman basically reacted the exact opposite way of everything that the batman did. Batman always showed mercy to the joker. He always fell for his mind games and never laughed at his jokes. That's what made batman an entertaining person for the joker. If Joker has no interest in someone like superman and he realizes the situation he is in, then he is easily beaten.
But batman never failed for his mind games (Well sometimes, it would be boring otherwise), Jason did. (Red hood).
I mean, the size S shirt thing *was* legit funny.
also because joker often you know uses joker gas or creates a situation where if you do nothing people die
honestly both joker and batman seem badly written the joker doesnt even seem like the type to use regular old bombs maybe as a way to get batman to play his game with him needing to do a thing otherwise the puppy orphanage explodes and joker doesnt seem like the kind of guy to go after the more light hearted superman joker cant exist without batman so this entire comic seems like bad writing
@@larsthememelord3383 not to mention, the joker is literally ontop of a the DAILY PLANET, and he didn't bother to read a single news article about superman? Like bro he didn't even know he has laser eyes. that's not prep time, that's called not trying.
Batman also cant collect 20 bombs in 3 seconds. That's another factor
A story that respects superman, his morals, his power and his way of doing things without compromise. I like this
When Superman is actually Superman
In that conversation Joker was actually 100% accurate representation of the more edgy, fanatical side of batman fans. Especially after Supes started frustrating him
Now i'm a batfan myself but on average Superman fans tend to be way more chill than my fellows and i respect that xd
What tf are you talking about 4:20
You mean the hot topic part?
ironicly Super man also roasted joker fanboys as well.
Honestly, most Superman fans like Batman, he's a good friend and a good foil to Superman. We just don't like BatGod when he shows up in Batman's place.
" on average Superman fans tend to be way more chill" not really, not even close. Superman fans are overly aggressive just to mock Batman with arguments like "but he is just a HuMaN"
Batman was willing to jeopardize thousands of lives just to test Superman. That slap was justified.
Did they literally do the Virgin Joker vs the Chad Superman meme?
lol
I love how unlike Bruce's super serious shtick, Superman is just shitting on him lmao
Of course that's supermans greatest power suppressing his ego
Joker forgets he's only human there's nothing special about him absolutely nothing. 😂
The title should be "Superman Humbles Joker and Deflates Batman's Ego."
When has batman been egoistic? I think the most egoistic and arrogant hero ever is wonderwoman or flash
@@martinjugolin2087 Batman believes that he is never wrong and is in a place to judge others from a moral standpoint.
@@martinjugolin2087arrogant/egoistic flash? Which flash dude, flash is not arrogant even reverse flash and godspeed, he says he is the most humble superhero and they hate him. if flash is egoistic then batman is more egoistic than flash. so flash and batman argue about "gotham girl" (and flash is right) then batman thinks he can beat flash with his tool flash comes straight to batman's face before batman can touch the button and almost hits batman and he says "not worth it"
@@8630733isnt that every superhero dont they all impose their own view of justice upon others?
difference is batman is human hes not some superpowered god he is mortal every fight he runs genuine risk in the end one bullet is all it takes also you are the him believing he is never wrong out of your ass he atleast actually works with law inforcement and his no kill rule makes sure that the villians get an actual fair trial. superman doesnt hes the man of steel he can catch every criminal and still have time for coffee and TV superman can rid the entire world of crime yet he doesnt, same goes for flash. superman lacking a no-kill rule is absolutely terrifying because now you can be killed without trial by some god to whom you never even stood a chance against he atleast isnt helping on the fragile states index (having fair jurisdiction is important on the index having a big blue judge jury and executioner doesnt help)
To be fair, the only reason Superman didnt smoke the joker is probably just so he wouldn’t have to deal with getting yelled at by Batman about it
That’s based
Batman fan detected.
Or hear Bruce crying in his sleep because his playmate died lol.
Nah I Superman didn’t kill the Joker because he had NO need to. He beat Joker at his own game before the Joker could even start. As he said “You don’t entertain someone of his caliber”That’s why Joker said Metropolis is boring and Supe said he’d kill him if he ever came back because it was seconds from being a disaster.
Batman: You killed an inocent
Superman:L+Ratio
03:47
"Yes. And you failed. You compromised your-"
"Oh shut up, rich boy. I didn't compromise anything, except your code that I don't follow, anyway."
Don't cook again , that reply is the most corniest shit I ve ever seen
Who let bro cook?
Why are you this white dude
Honestly, this was great up until the part where it turned out to be a plan by Batman.
These two should almost be like brothers, and Batman would never put the lives of innocents at risk like that.
The stuff with Superman and Joker is great, if a bit on the nose, I think it's fair to point out that Superman doesn't kill, not as some rigid rule, but because he quite literally doesn't need to kill, if he did it would be excessive force 90% of the time, since he's so powerful, he can even take most super powered people in with little to no resistance.
Joker and Superman reminds me of Batman Beyond fighting resurrected Joker, when Terry said-
"Batman never talked to you much did he? That's probably why you were so fixated on him. I don't need a degree to figure you out. The real reason you kept coming back was because you never got a laugh out of the old man. Get a clue clowny, he's got no sense of humor. He wouldn't know a good joke if it bit him in the cape, not that you ever had a good joke. You make me laugh, but only because I think you're kind of pathetic."
What's funny is the other time the Joker he went to metropolis (Superman animated) he kidnapped Lois Lane, and then he went back again, this time tricking supes into ending her (Injustice). So he's dangerous.
@@Klongu_Da_Bonguthat just the injustice version so it not canon, if joker tried that in the main timeline it wouldn’t go the same way.
We can assume that, like always, Batman was confident in his plan 100% that no civilian casualties would happen because, well, reasons.
Also probably wasn't an exact plan, like the Joker got told by Batman to go fuck with Supes. Probably just figured he would sit and see what Supes would do in that situation.
I guess anyway I don't know this comics connections let alone the fucking name since these comicbook youtubers never put the name in an easy to see spot, if at all.
...I mean, this feels like a dig by the writer on Batman's comics in general. Edgy in a childish sort of way.
@@colbyboucher6391 I could see that, but it doesn't really match the spirit of Batman at the end, which by your view would be the point.
In my eyes though, it's very distracting since I've always seen Batman and Superman as being...for the lack of a better word, "better" than that. Since when it comes to what actually matters, they're a lot more similar than they are different from each other.
The real superman not that emotionally reckless lunatic from injustice
Say it again, brother.
well thats an alt universe lol
@@lostlambv2939 yeah i know but this is a more accurate interaction between the two. Besides in recent comics injustice superman is currently interacting with supermans son so anything goes in comics and universes always collide
@@jasonhearn5818 I mean, having your wife, your unborn child and your entire city vapourized by a madman who wanted attention would make anyone an emotional wreck.
Remember, Frank Castle decided to just kill every criminal ever because someone completely unrelated murdered his wife and child. Imagine if they nuked NY.
emotionally reckless doesn't sound quite right though.
I mean anybody that basically got acid tripped into killing their own pregnant wife, and also most of the city he calls home, is gonna result in some severe mental damage.
The flaw was that AFTER the big initial event instead of supes grieving properly and eventually carrying on he just went straight up Professor Pyg "I'm gonna make you perfect whether you like it or not" evil.
This was great to see. I've never seen Superman done in a way that honours the spirit of the character and yet makes him so damn cold. I wanna see this version of superman in a film.
"he joked that 'the batman is a rich man who kidnaps homeless people and turns them into villains'..." BRO 💀💀💀💀
It worked on Harley because she was a True Crime enthusiast. Superman is not
The best version of superman
The kind, wise and lighthearted man whom grew up on a farm
But knows how to be cold and have a backbone because he experienced city life
Heck, country life will give you a backbone and some emotional armor. Putting down Old Yeller is part of the package.
"Any writer could write you" - yeah, it's not just the Joker that's being roasted here.
Bro dragged the whole crew
Superman also "does not kill" - humans especially - even without an explicitly formulated rule. He just won't allow a psychotic mass murderer to feel safe in his presence or (worse) take any form of pleasure out of interacting with him, which, in turn, is precisely the reason why Batman and Joker exist in such perfect symbiosis. They are the living embodiments of order and chaos and, in all honesty, they both have a fetish for proving their points. Clark simply breaks that cycle.
2:12 Superman really just told em "Kill yourself" 😂
That's a little bit off character but i will allow it :D
@@wildhunt6350 i think most people would tell joker to kill himself lmao
@@parry3439 Agreed.
The assumption that Supes *didn't* disarm all those bombs (and disable the detonator to boot) at super-speed off panel before chucking them to Giggles the Murder Clown is a silly one. Clark is being written smart here. He wasn't leaving anything to chance, and that includes letting the loon blow himself up. Doesn't mean he had to tell Joker that.
Letting him still think he had the option to go boom? Priceless. In the words of Slappy Squirrel (an infinitely better comedian than Joker), now that's comedy.
lowtiersuperman
this Joker is like a redditor doing his best Joker impression 💀
"I can do lots of stuff."
Yes, Superman, you certainly can.
That bit about the code is important. Superman _does not have one_ like batman does. He's just a good person trying to do good things, and for the most part that means "don't kill people". This is also why superman doesn't injure people like Batman does - he doesn't believe that's good either, unless you earn that shit (which is why he backhanded batman into a car for putting people in danger to feed his ego). Batman, in contrast, will break everyone bone in your body, but he won't kill people _even when its insane or unethical not to_ because "Batman doesn't kill".
a corpse cant get a fair trial.
superman is judge jury and executioner he decides justice and nobody can do anything about it.
also batman changes drasticaly from writer to writer just look at adam west batman
Batman doesn't really have the luxury of treating his opponents with kid gloves, he's just a human
Being lenient would get him killed, unlike Superman
@@Psycorde he really does though, an average thug couldn't do anything to Batman, there's no need to break their arms, etc.
Batman is actually as sane as most of his enemies are.
Absolutely loved this take on Superman. I wish the writers did this with him more often. He is such a beast, but the writers always make him such a joke. So this was amazing.
You mean edgy and shit because you don’t already have enough edge lords
“the writers always make him into a joke”
How many Superman comics have you actually read? Because he’s consistently like this when he’s angry….
I remember this. Especially the part where Supes says, "You're just another nobody in a costume, killing innocent people to hog an imaginary spotlight."
OUCH... That hurts. And they say Superman can't roast anyone?? 😅😅😅😅
Joker: I'll be back. I'll be worse than this, you'll see. I'm going to figure out a way to hurt you, and then I'll be back to do it
Supes: you sound so stupid right now.
*Injustice intro opens up*
Lois lane:
Nonononono wait wait wait wait wait
But later, in front of Batman, Superman admits that he actually knew Joker was a threat.
The best way to neutralize him was to treat him like he wasn't a threat....
Because if he got mad or even showed that he found Joker a threat, Joker would have come again.
Joker probably never thought he'd beat Superman, he just wanted the Super man's reaction...
@@Solo_man69 Man, that line from Punisher works everywhere, doesn't it?
@@samanawayadatta891 yeah yeah yeah, yeah continue continue continue continue continue
@@Solo_man69 Screw that. Meta-Lois steps out from behind the Daily Planet globe and puts a bullet through Joker's brain right then and there. "We are *not* doing that again. I am sick of getting winding up in the metaphorical fridge for the sake of Clark's character development. Find some other motivation, you lazy hacks."
4:09 that stare off is Schway
3:57 Clark showing off to nobody for no reason. Flies in his "S" symbol shape just because he can.
Bro I just realised
It stands for Swag
@@TimmyMcGowan Swaggity swag
@@TimmyMcGowan Swag-Man.
Kal-El does have a sense of humor, but he doesn't have a code against killing unlike Batman who will beat the crud out of you, but won't kill you. Kal-El will kill you if he thinks it needs to be done. Otherwise he'll stuff you into the Phantom Zone, and then make rude gestures at you.
Also batman has plans to deal with the entire Justice league. Most of which involve fates worse then death.
Ma kent: He does what?
Superman: It was one time and lobo started it.
@@dannylopez5976 I still find it weird and kinda stupid that Bats is willing to come up with entire plans that involve killing his closest friends but STILL won't even _consider_ killing Joker.
@@jahrusalem3658 Because Joker, as Batman, is human. the JL is mostly composed of aliens, gods/divine beings and metahumans. they ARE a threat on a global scale because they can sneeze and destroy a city. Joker is just a man. As Batman is. Batman cannot kill Joker because that would be his own end as human and, as he stated many times, if he kills even one criminal, then he would not be able to stop from using the same solution for other criminals. So...he cannot kill other humans, that would put him at the same level of criminals. And he can't even ask or allow the JL to kill Joker for him, because that would basically entitle them to feel superior to humankind, which won't do either. It would be easy on a practical level? yes, of course. But morally, it would be one hellish decision no matter how you look at it.
@@jahrusalem3658 because killing Joker doesn't require a plan, you just strike a little harder or use a gun, like in one issue where random cop just shot at Joker and almost killed him.
Superman's plan to deal with Joker:
Be a party pooper.
If they actually wrote for superheroes using the full extent of their abilities there would only be 5 issues of every comic
Great line by Superman, about how only a child would take a clown seriously. Bruce is still that traumatized child in an alley. That’s why he indulges his antics. This is a great little story.
Also the hot topic joke is pretty meta considering they sell a crap ton of superhero licensed merch.
Superman is 100% correct on the Joker.
Joker is the state of mind of someone who has given up, a sad and broken thing. Waking up and deciding to make things worse.
batman, flying across the room "yeah may have earned that one a little"
I like how superman like yeah i dont kill people but for you joker i might.
"Your little playmate won't make it home."
Superman perfectly understands Joker and Batman, but him actually stating it, just makes it epic.
3:14 it's the biggest burn I think I've ever heard Superman say
This is how joker vs superman would go if the writters are unbiased and are going for realistic character interaction
"Ermm, actually you failed your test, you forgot to let 128 people die and then put joker in a daycare so he can come back tomorrow." ☝️🤓
I love this. The conceited Batman thinking he's the better of them and even DARE to test Superman. This version of Superman is the one I would love to see, clever and restrain , but not indulging. He knows the kind of crap Joker is and his anger towards Batman is totally justified. Batman has failed his own test. He let Joker hurt the people he cared the most ;and has the nerve to lecture Clark. I know the plot have to make them look as equals , but Superman is FAR superior to Batman. And not just power. Batman ALWAYS fails when it comes to Joker. Jason Todd , Barbara Gordon and hundreds of people hurt or killed by the Joker are proof enough. The thing with Superman is restrain, that's his deal. He could have ripped off Joker's head without him even noticing it. The crossovers and the JLA had to nerf Superman so the Alliance is justified. Anyway, this story is a rare case of writers showing how powerful Superman really is.
Kal-El could have just grabbed Joker , flown to the moon then dropped Joker, and waved bye,bye. Joker is really lucky not to have.. well I won't go any further.
I mean..
Superman's whole deal is that he will always hold back.
or he Might destroy everything around him.
yup, his breathing could end everything probably.
@@DoctorRobertNeville and then superman thinks killing is okay and injustice starts, then your boy scout gets Molly whooped my a human 😂😂
@@TheManWhoFlys22 you know that only happens bc the writers suck off batman every time right? there's simply no way a human being could ever have a chance against Superman who doesn't even need to be close to you to kill you, he can literally throw a meteor to your general direction and kill you
@@TheManWhoFlys22 a human with the physical abilities of superman that is
This was just a writer's commentary and breakdown of the Joker and Superman. And I freaking love it
Acknowledging that without any writer nerfing Superman, there's no way in hell a villain with no powers is going to threaten him. (Joker really should've brought Kryptonite)
And the talk about him being generic and vague giving him the ability to surprise people was great...As well as him straight up hitting Batman for "Testing" him. I mean, what the fuck Bruce
lex luther has no power lol
@@K1ngmo_MBBut he shows up on mechanized suit designed to fight God ... Not in a purple suit with an acid flower as hes secret trick
@@proxy90909 that goes for batman as well
Agreed. I think one way a non-superpowered villain can actually give Superman trouble is to have such good publicity and (outside of being a supervillain) do lots of good like donating to charities, that Superman feels conflicted about stopping them
@@K1ngmo_MB Exactly joker vs superman is one sided superman stomp, Lex vs Batman would have Lex give him a run for hes money or even beat him, cause most of the time batmans suits wouldnt be as good as Lex, yes batman prepares to fight superman but Lex actually fights superman multiple times he has more theory making supersuits he has straight up practice.
(The hellbat being the exception but bruce didnt even make that one it was League effort)
Joker: *makes a joke*
Superman: *laughs*
Joker: and I took that personally.
If injustice was Joker blowing up Metropolis, then this comic should be named Justice.
To be fair, those were actually some funny one-liners from the Joker.