Is Shai Gilgeous-Alexander The NBA MVP?
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Coach Nick breaks down Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's game, revealing insights into how he scores that you might not have been aware of. Is it enough to jump over Nikola Jokic and get the MVP Award?
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Thank you for showing some much needed love to the thunder and SGA. They completely shattered expectations. I would love to see where MVP voters thought the thunder would place before the season started
Ask the media. They're the voters. Players, coaches, fans, or other NBA representatives have no say in the MVP.
Most didn’t even have mavs in the play in and Luka ain’t getting serious consideration for mvp so I doubt it matters that much
They really be pushing another narrative to not give it to Jokic huh
Jokic is the clear MVP. If Shai won it this year it would be like the Derrick Rose MVP.
I will always be on the side of giving the mvp to the best player in the world. Lebron/jordan/magic/kobe/duncan/shaq should’ve had more. Joker should get it because he’s the best in the word. And no, it’s not Luka.
Jokic had his MVP's already. And MVP fatigue is a thing given that it's the Media who decides who gets the award.
Y'all are obsessed with that man jesus
@@TWDub That fatigue was last year. This year, they feel sorry because of the mistake they made last year. The same mistake won't happen twice in a row.
His stats are almost exactly the same as last year... conflating a team's surprising success with his value is so disingenuous. The team around him got a lot better and that, along with the innovative coaching, should get the lions share of credit for the thunder's performance
It’s not Most improved award it’s the mvp. Don’t disrespect Shai like that.
@@eranhasid7630 I think the point is more "How is he valuable when he did virtually the same last year, yet ended 10th"
@eranhasid7630 OK so why are ppl saying things like "no one expected okc to be this good. So Shai should win mvp"? Ppl are talking out of both sides of their mouths. It's annoying. Give legit arguments instead of using OKC's surprise success. Their surprise success is more of a reflection of the team as a whole along with the stellar coaching
@@djepser you mean 1st?
You dumb casual. MVP is not about raw value, MVP has always been about a player's contribution to WINNING. This is why Win shares / 48 is the best metric for predicting MVP players.
100% agree. SGA has also been enormous in clutch situations as well. The Thunder are at their best when SGA, JDub and Chet are firing on all cylinders. They are so hard to stop all 3 and Giddey has really improved late in the season. Although they lack size and strength in the paint, they are fearless and they find a way to win. I don’t think they can get passed the Nuggets this season, but if they can pick up a BIG during the off season and with all their 1st round picks to come, they're going to have themselves a 3-4 year dynasty (as long as they can afford to keep all their young talent). Imagine Jokic joining the Thunder as a free agent!!
My impression of the Thunder all season was they are playing so well as a unit. I love watching their teamwork. I never got the impression that SGA was doing it all, and that their wins relied solely on a single player and not the front office, the coach, and the team all working together to get results. The Thunder have really impressed me this year. They earned my viewership by playing well. SGA is definitely an MVP candidate, one or two imo, I just don't describe OKC's success as relying solely on just one player, that's what makes the team all that much more impressive.
Exactly. Nuggets are connected and depend as a team solely because of Jokic keeping them together while OKC is well rounded on all positions and not reliable so much on Shay. That's one of the main reasons why Jokic is MVP, plus everything else. The only strategies teams have against Jokic is to try to win the so called non-Jokic minutes. This was never mention about Shay as strategy because he is not that impactful as Jokic. In fact, most of the losses Nuggets have every season and especially this season is because teams would outscore Nuggets bench by 30-40-50 points and Nuggets would be undefeated if you would count only Jokic minutes. I think Nuggets bench even got outscored by like 68 points in one game this season, it was terrible how bad they are, worst bench in NBA by far.
@@joemilo2710 SGA is not impactful? Keep typing...
@@davidprice3438 I wrote he's not as impactful as Jokic. keep trying to learn to read.
@@joemilo2710wait did you just suggest the Nuggets’ starting 5 is not literally the best and most team oriented in the league? Jesus people who obsess over this guy because he finally gives them some hope in an athletic sport will never stop. We get it mate, Jokic is good. It doesn’t mean he’s playing all by himself like stop the stupidity lol
SGA MY MVP
SGA is three at best. Luka and Jokic are both more deserving imo.
I disagree completely, SGA is the clear MVP. Jokic and Luka have championship help
@@Mr.Byrnesput your bias aside. It's clear that Doncic and Jokic are 1 and 2.
Its not necessarily the numbers that has SGA in contention over Luka & Jokic for MVP.
As stated by several analysts, the Thunder is the youngest team in the NBA with no other all-star & ranked first in the league. SGA, who's offensive game is not oriented near the 3 point line as a guard, has the better defense than Luka & Jokic. Further more, The Thunder has the season winning record over the Mavs & Nugs this year. If we are putting Jokic Luka over SGA, then we need to consider that there more NBA considered with individual stats & highlights, over true overall skill & team impact.
SGA MY MVP
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
People just saw the title and immediately started posting angry comments and their favorite players stats before even watching the video LMAO
Understandable when Coach Nick normally takes any chance he can to shit on Jokic and the Nuggets.
Didnt know nuggets are the 10th seed as jokic cant be considered mvp because of their record, this is funny, they literally have the same record
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@@teddyhart2913😂 he's not the best defensive player at his position. Luka and Jokic would body him. Hes too fn small.
Regular stats, eye test, advanced stats, all indicate one answer for the MVP question. And that answer isn't SGA. Just check basketball-reference. It's so obvious.
Youngest team in the NBA with no other all-star, ranked first in the league, & SGA, who's game is not oriented near the 3 point line as a guard, has the better defense than Luka & Jokic.
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@@vornm1234 And just 50 first round picks, by ripping off whoever had the clever idea to want Westbrick and CP3.
Who else has ZERO All Star teammates (except for DeAndre Jordan, age 47, once like 20 years ago)? JOKIC!
@@vornm1234Jdub is basically allstar caliber at this point and chet is a borderline allstar
@@vornm1234 That youngest you're implying has countless first round picks.
Shai is def the mvp
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander SKILLS ELITE 💪🔥💪
SGA cooked them Nuggets more than once. They have the tie breaker.
With this logic, the MVP should be Tatum
No, Tatum has MUCH better help. SGA lead a team full of Rookies and Sophomores to the 1 seed in a historically stacked West. It is what it is 🤷 MVP
@@Mr.Byrnes sure but his logic he stated was “he’s the MVP becuase he’s the best player on the best team in the west.” By that logic the MVP should be the best player on the best team in the league.
Coach, you did it again and again…you got me watching the whole MVP ad not knowing it.
SHAI FOR MVP
The answer is no.
TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE JOKIC IS THE MVP this year.
- he played more games than other MVP candidates, had the tied best record in the West with his best teammate miss 25 games.
- Jokic was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He's the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season.
- Jokic led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions.
- He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682.
Jokic was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus.
- Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokic on the floor compared to him off
- Jokic was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers.
- Jokic was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists.
- He was first in total steals by a center.
- Jokic was fifth in total deflections in the NBA.
- He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum
100 attempts).
- He finished second in total points in the painted area.
- Jokic was first in post-up points and assists.
- He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows.
Jokic recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25.
- Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league.
Wasn't he 3-1 against the youngest team to ever win the #1 seed?
SGA my MVP
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@@teddyhart2913 nikola Jokic literally leads the league in defensive box plus minus(over every player in the league) and steals at the center position
@@RightStickRob you know box plus minus is a stat based on team performance while youre on the court, not indicative of your individual defensive ability which is probably the weakest aspect of Jokers game. Also leading in steals (like allen iverson did multiple times) doesnt necessarily make you a good defender. Jokic is a decent defender, and Im not saying he shouldn't get MVP, just that most ppl who say SGA doesn't have a case totally discredits the other end of the ball
"If you're the best player on the best team in the best conference, why not make that person the MVP?" Ummmm, because they're not the MOST valuable player!??! Hello!? The most valuable is the one that makes their team the most likely to win against the second-best team, over either the median or next-best replacement player.
Nice work 😊
This made me go find highlights of Shaun Livingston. SGA's game reminds me of his. Miss watching that guy play!
Yessssiirrrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!!!!! Thank you for showing SgA some luv
Luka, jokic and shai who ever wins it deserves it. But I'll take joker because i want to see another 3x mvp player. He's gonna be the Larry bird of todays era so the jordan of this era will show up😂
who’s getting aids
Wemby is Jordan
? Weird take with that MJ part
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@@teddyhart2913 ofcourse mvp is not about offensive production. its how valuable you are on your team. so why jokic is number one on mvp race even though he has 26.5 ppg? because advanced metrics said that joker is so valuable on his team.
And for joker's defense, about people saying that he has no defense is a hoax. If you're watching nuggets you know how good joker's defense is. How fast he moves on defense on clutch time and how he commands his team's position on defense.
Every time a righty goes to his left in a bballbreakdown clip, I know what we are about to hear hahaha.... Another great vid coach thanks
GIVE IT TO LUKA
lmao luka with kyrie couldnt even make it to 1st seed hahaha
ESPN leaked the MVP results, Luka came in 3rd, with just 1 first place vote. HeatCheck covered this.. Give or take a few points here or there he is 3rd, and its sad
@@vanity9105 They didnt have a good team until washington and gafford arrived
You know when jokic won his first mvp and the nuggets were 6th in the West? Jokic led the league in plus minus that year. This year he is leading it again by a big margin. Jokic also has higher PER, better true shooting, higher assist percentage, lower turnover percentage. Why does Luka deserve it over Jokic?
@@vanity9105 enjoy getting swept in the first round, regular season kings.
Just look at advanced stats...
Real mvp is Doncic. If not Jokic. Sga had a great season but when you compare him with Luka's numbers...
Its not necessarily the numbers that has SGA in contention over Luka & Jokic.
@@vornm1234 it's the team record? Then why not Tatum... Also OKC only have one more win than Denver
SGA BETTER DEFENCE. FAR MORE VALUABLE
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@@teddyhart2913 so Harden was not mvp a few years ago?
The dislikes looking nice
Salty Luka stans
If the basis of MVP is by score of:
10% basic stats
10% media vote
35% W-L record & position in conference
45% stats that affect his value on the team
Would it be a good scoring system to determine MVP using numbers?
How do you calculate basic stats as 1 number? PER? PIE? What do you exactly mean with stats that effect the team?
Eye test maybe...?
That Shai jump shot is a thing of beauty. He has infinite variations of moves, and some of the most fluid footwork ive ever seen.
Depends on what's your criteria for MVP
Dude is smooth
A clever ad is still an ad. Put that garbo at the end, please 🙏. I'll trade you likes and comments
Hush
Brother, you are watching free content
Shai Gorgeous-Thor Alexander is the MVP!
The 🐐 ladder:
1. Nikola Jokic 🇷🇸 [Serbia]
P.I.E.: 21.1
2. Luka Doncic 🇸🇮 [Slovenia]
P.I.E.: 20.0
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo 🇬🇷 [Greece]
P.I.E.: 19.7
4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 🇨🇦 [Canada]
P.I.E.: 18.7
5. Domantas Sabonis 🇱🇹 [Lithuania]
P.I.E.: 16.9
If you want to find out who's the MVP, just ask this simple question: "What their teams look like when they're NOT on the floor?"
Everyones arguments as to why he should not be MVP is that he is too young and not much experience. Many think they became the first seed out, just pure luck. Those people are people who have not been watching them since they started rebuilding. It was not luck. There is a reason Coach Mark won Coach of the year and the OKC blue won the western conference. From the restart coach Mark has been known to send players to the OKC blue to develope them. I remember seeing them come back and playing better. OKC has been working hard on development and this year, there was a point where if felt that OKC was like, "Lets go for it!! We got this, we are ready!". They caught everyone off guard, but it shouldn't have. If they had watched all the games even the losses, they would have noticed their development was moving extremely fast. It wasn’t luck, it was hard work!
Everyone says "he is awesome, he is MVP material, but NOT THIS YEAR, maybe next year or two." Why? Because he is too young and doesn't have more years of experience? Right. No. Shai MVP this year.
Answer: no.
Big push for Jokic? Literally EVERYONE HATES ON HIM, even tho he is clear MVP, makes whole team better, pushes his team, doesnt just shoot million shots to get 50 pts.. you know shooting million shots doesnt make you MVP
Please dont use the word literally like that. the last mvp poll had jokic easily ahead of the rest
Well, the voters aren’t hating on him
@@maartenvz Shaq, Steven A and Perkins say otherwise... and they on tv / web 24/7
@@abbabb8369if Jokic was a darker skin color, they'd be singing a different tune.
@@abbabb8369bro, 3 clowns that say things to piss you off to get attention does not equal literally everyone. The straw poll was shared and jokic was leading it.
Defense should be rated fairly.
SGA should win MVP over Luka and Jokic just because he is a two-way player
Defense should be rated higher than currently??
Then give it to Giannis
Of course he didn't mention this fact,
Last 16 games, that's about last 20% of the season:
Jokic:
31 7 5
16 11 7
35 16 2
30 14 11
didn't play
29 11 8
22 9 10
32 10 5
26 18 16
42 16 6
36 17 10
19 11 14
28 13 7
41 11 7
22 7 12
15 15 5
Shay:
20 7 3
31 7 4
23 7 8
12 3 2
24 5 8
didn't play
didn't play
19 2 3
didn't play
didn't play
didn't play
didn't play
40 7 4
26 6 5
23 7 3
15 1 6
If you want to see who is more valuable and who does more for their team just look at these number to close the regular season. Shay has ZERO double-doubles, ZERO triple-double, only one 30+ point game and one 40 point game plus missed a whole bunch of games while Jokic was killing opponents with 10 double-doubles plus 4 triple doubles, five 30+ point games, two 40+ games and missed just one game to close the season!!! Shay's numbers look pathetic to call him MVP next to Jokic numbers and how Jokic drags the Nuggets by doing absolutely everything for that team, that's true MVP! If you go deeper into advanced stats that are hidden Jokic kills Shay and everyone else there too!
SGA MY MVP
CONTEXT. You shai was either playing hurt or out with a quad the last 10 or so games. And for the lack of scoring peak, he makes that up in consistency. I think he had 55+ games in which he scored 30+
Luka and Jokic deserves more. But SGA makes this conversation more interesting with his consistency.
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
Give it to him and watch the Thunder fold first round
Jokic with the Nuggets has the same record as SGA with Thunder and Jokic has way better stats. There is no argument to give the MVP award to SGA over Jokic, maybe I can see an argument for Luka (though I still think Jokic is more deserving of it).
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
SGA IS MVP!!!
Took you the whole season to make a video about the thunder huh
yall got 2 videos
You an entitled baby huh
Its because SGA is a fraud
MVP, MVP, MVP!!!
Yup
Yes
Still Joker. The Thunder are great but SGA’s value to that much more balanced team is nothing compared to Joker’s to the Nuggets this year.
nah. give it to luka if ou're not giving it to jokic
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
Put SGA in Detroit, I bet that they still suck. But if you put Jokic in Detroit, for sure they are contenders.
Jokic, SGA, and Doncic are all deserving.
If anyone wants an interesting read, please hear me out below:
The NBA seriously need to look at the bias from the MVP voting committee. I am seeing a disproportionate amount of votes for Jokic. There is another agenda going on that's not to do with basketball. Which is not only unfair to Luka but Jokic , SGA, and all the other candidates.
Im seeing voters like Bill Simmons getting votes, the same person who partners will gambling sites like Fam Duel on their podcast.
ESPN members get a significantly larger proportion of voting power, which is interesting when you look at ESPN recent venture into the gambling industry. The objectivity of these voters should be called into question.
The odds being so in favour of Jokic is also telling. -5000 Jokic and 20/1 Luka. Vegas knows something we don't. As most basketball fan and mock polls suggest it should be a lot closer race.
Oddschecker suggests a relatively even amount of money has been placed on the both of them. So how come Jokic is such a favourite...
In December straw poll when Embid was front running favourite he was averaging less in pts, rb and ast than Luka is now - at 50 win pace, which Luka managed to achieve. So how come Luka was never the front runner.
All of this information anyone can find on X, you can even find the voters names, which is also wrong. For all we know they are being bribed , colluding together to try and get the winner they or someone else wants. The house always wins as they say.
It's clear who the fans MVP is it's Luka, my votes Luka by a mile, not just because of his performance but because I cannot stand corruption/ bias in sports. I would not be surprised if this is happening in the NBA, just look at FIFA - this Jokic, Luka situation reminds me of the Messi/ Harland balonD'or in 2023. Messi is the goat but it's almost felt as if Haaland could not have done more that year. Again both deserved to win and the odds, albeit in Messi favour were a lot closer.
I feel sorry for Jokic as he does not deserve to be dragged down by all the controversy, he is an all time great but may look less legitimate due to the poor way in which the award is given.
I am an NBA fan and do not have the time, platform or resources to deep dive into this the way I believe should be . But the NBA has to do better, MVP needs to be legitimately defined, it affects the history books and peoples trust in the organisation.
Look, I want Luka(I bet money on it at the beginning of the season) to win too, but it’s disingenuous to act like Jokic doesn’t have a very very very strong case.
- he played more games than other MVP candidates, had the tied best record in the West with his best teammate miss 25 games.
- Jokic was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He's the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season.
- Jokic led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions.
- He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682.
Jokic was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus.
- Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokic on the floor compared to him off
- Jokic was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers.
- Jokic was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists.
- He was first in total steals by a center.
- Jokic was fifth in total deflections in the NBA.
- He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum
100 attempts).
- He finished second in total points in the painted area.
- Jokic was first in post-up points and assists.
- He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows.
Jokic recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25.
- Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league.
I completely agree that gambling is a poison that sickens the league. At the same time that doesnt mean Luka deserves it more than Jokic. Jokic has better true shooting, higher assist percentage, lower turnover percentage and leads the league in plus minus. "Yeah but Luka doesnt have such a good team/injuries". Sure, but when the nuggets had a lot of injuries and finished 6th jokic was still leading the league in plus minus and got mvp. We cant give it to Luka for hypothetical reasons. If Luka leads the league in plus minus he deserves mvp but he doesnt
Simply put, no Jokic is the MVP and deserves it more than any player in the league
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
For a young team & no all star team mate with 53+% shooting for a guard, Shai you the MVP 🏀
SGA MY MVP
Shais lead the 2nd youngest team in the NBA with no all stars to the 1st seed in a stacked western conference. They were one of the worst teams 2 yrs ago. literally a no brainer
C'mon man. Jokic as center HAS much more assists than Shai as point guard. It is not even close. Luka has much better case. Luka has insane season. OKC has much deeper bench than Denver and they were healthy all year until Jokic missed Murray in 30% of games. OKC is first because Murray, Gordon etc missed 40 games
SGA has lead the youngest team to ever win a 1 seed in NBA history. Not to mention it being one of the most stacked Western Conferences in history, as well. A bunch of Rookies and Sophomores have been outplaying most of the League and the catalyst? Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
SGA, Same numbers as last year, Chet and JDubb’s growth are responsible for this turnaround. Can’t be “most valuable” when your value hasn’t gone up or down at all.
So the Thunder got more talented players, and SGA's numbers didnt go down? SGA also got better, and his value has gone up from 10th to 1st place.
SGA lead a team full of rookies and sophomores to the 1 seed in the West. It is what it is 🤷 MVP
@@Mr.ByrnesThe team had what like 50 first rounds picks? Just because they're young doesn't mean they aren't better than many other veteran players.
Ahh if only the clippers would listen to Doc Rivers... 😂😂😂😂
It's Jokic.
I wonder why sga isn't known as SEGA!
I feel like Shai gets a bit too much credit for his team's success. They shattered expectations because they got a super rookie and Williams dramatically improved as well as some great coaching. Shai is firmly third for MVP for me. Nuggets would be in the play in without Jokic and the Mavs would be in the lottery without Luka
As well for the Thunder. Take Shai off that team and they are in the play in as well. Not to mention, Shai basically creates most of their offense.
Wait he knows how to score I thought he only took 30 free throws per game 😱
he takes less free throws than last year and only averages 1 less point
@@bxnd-hunta Exactly! I’m making fun of the people who says he only shoots free throws
Your bf Luka Donsheet avga more fts…..
@@goatstatusj5112 Shai is my favorite player I’m making fun of fans that say he’s a free throw merchant especially Luka fans
@@ktdsgaming oo my bad then
No. Luka is the MVP.
SGA has the following: coach of the year, rookie of the year candidate, and the most improved player candidate.
Kyrie? A champion and one of the best scorers in the world, still? Hello?
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
come on, SGA is great but he is not on lvl with Luka & Joker.
SGA is the mvp. Better record than the other two and a better two way player than both. Plus SGA doesn’t have another player averaging 20ppg on his team
No, Luka deserves it. Shai not even in the same stratosphere as Luka man fuqattahere. After Luka It's Brunson. After Brunson it's Jokic, then SGA.
Did you just said brunson over jokic and sga?
@@TiredOfthisstuffthese kids need to get their phones taken away smfh 🤦♂️🤦♂️
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
05:28 why would anyone want your used boxers?
top 5 on both ends. no all stars. back to back 93% percentile jumps year over year. 2 way star.
OKC are up against the best in Nikola and cos. Not this year bruh, not this year..
You open the video talking about SGA's PnR, isolations, finishing, and turnover rate when Luka is already statistically better at all of those things, while Luka with one arm and leg tied behind his back is still a better passer than SGA.
I feel like I am going insane or something. There is a guy averaging a never before seen stat line, with the 2nd best combined averages of all time, the 2nd highest individual game score in league history, leading the league in PPG without free throws, is probably the best overall 3 point shooter in the league this season, did all of this while carrying a pretty shitty roster prior to the trade deadline, and once getting real NBA role players to start with him at the trade deadline has been the engine behind the best team in the entire league. Yet virtually nobody in the media wants to give him any credit and we have people talking about a free throw merchant who has had basically the same roster for years and couldn't do anything with them until a generational rookie showed up.
I hear ya. Part of it could be that he had a slowish start… and we have to figure out if his advantage as a passer overcomes Shai’s advantage as a defender
@@bballbreakdownExactly
Free throw merchant? Goofy shai and luka average the exact same amount of free throws per game at 8.7 attempts each while shai is the far superior defender and beats doncic in nearly every advanced stat. Shai carried the okc thunder to the best record in the western conference while being on the 2nd youngest team in the entire nba. while Chet is an excellent player he isn’t even close to being generational right now smh. Kyrie irving has performed at a superstar level in the games he’s played in and Dallas’s offense doesn’t miss a beat when Luka is on the bench. The thunder are much worse when shai is on the bench. Go watch table tennis 🏓
you could have made a good point if you didn't turn around and criticize shai for no reason. Luka averages more free throws than shai, who is by far the most frequent driver out of guards in the nba. Also, saying he's had the "same roster" is incredibly disingenuous considering they are still one of the youngest teams to be this successful in the regular season. Last year or the year before they had the average age of a literal college team.
Luka deserves MVP as much as anyone else, but no need to be salty
@@bballbreakdown Luka averaged 32.9 points, 9.1 assists, and 8.4 rebounds in the first 25 games of the season. I don't get where the slow start thing comes from.
Jokic, Luka, Shai & Tatum are all valid to get mvp to me no wrong answer
Coach nick pushing his "I'm not racist agenda" by voting a black guy for mvp
Why not just rename the award to MVAP - Most valuable American player, that way you don't need to tie yourselves into knots to explain why Eastern European Slavs (Jokic, Luka) shouldn't win the award when everyone sees that those 2 are the most deserving of it, Jokic more so than Luka though
Shai is Canadian
This is an insane comment considering the last 5 MVPs haven’t been American born and Shai is Canadian. Are you ok?
It’s so wild watching people play victim over mvp 😂
@@benibremsspur Apparently Americans view them as one of their own
@@BooksNelson-bx2bq Even this year Jokic will probably win the MVP, I am talking about a minority of voters that were always against Jokic winning the MVP and who don't even acknowledge that Luka is in the race. I know most voters aren't like this
Stop it! Jokic is the real MVP.
Why? Because the media keep saying it?
Much better stats and better impact.
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
Coach your content doesnt need a cringey clickbait title to lure in people. Great analysis of Shai but you forgot to explain why he is more valuable than jokic.
He can't do that because he isn't more valuable than Jokic
@@student99bg Shh, the OKC delulu fans will hear you
What shocked me the most is the media gave 15 1st place votes to Joker,and only 2 1st place votes to SGA.It's disrespectful.SGA deserve half votes of media.
sga is best player on a best team in west.. tatum is the best player on a best team in whole nba now
I see why you still haven’t reached 1mil subs yet and why I been unsub’d. Bet the playoff coverage will be interesting for whoever watches as well lol.
Luka more likely
#PraviMVP
No, Nick. It's Jokic. Luka > SGA
Luka
You haven’t showed any love to OKC all season and I’ve been waiting and this was worth the wait. Shai for MVP
Everything he does is is silk
The BEST player on the TOP team of the TOUGHEST conference.
That's actually a pretty good case for MVP
And I think that's what gives SGA the edge. His defense is a difference maker and I'd give it to SGA this year over Jokic though I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic won it again.
Luka is the clear mvp
I'd say Luka deserved it a little bit more since he didn't have the team from the start AND did have to carry his own team through other's injuries
Shai and Nikola basically had the whole starting team available all the time
No give it to luka
Luka and jokic is the only right answer
Jokic and shai have same record jokic averaged more assists and rebound and shooting more efficient
Shai been good on defense but jokic have improved lead center in steals , so I can’t give it to shai over jokic
Luka average more points, assists and rebound a just a little less efficient but Luka also shooting career high from 3 ball and shooting better then shai
Luka also 10 in steals per game and 4th in guard I think it was
So shai doesn’t have a chance if you want to be honest I will be surprise if he get 3 first place vote
It’s Jokic this year, last year was rightfully embiid. SGA has too much help from Chet and Jdub, Jokic is creating the western conference parity
Too much help? 😂 You mean the rookies and sophomores SGA has lead to the 1 seed in a historically stacked Western Conference? The youngest team in NBA history to win a 1 seed? Yea you’re not making any sense 😅
I haven’t even started the video and the answer is 100% undisputed YES
Not a bad argument, Shai is on par with Luka and jokic offensively, there better passers but Shai is a better defender, I would like Shai to win mvp but of course jokic will win
SGA does boost any team’s chance of winning
Elite on offense and defense. I hope coach talks about his defense. It's what separates him from other MVP contenders. Best two way player since prime Kawhi, Kobe and MJ
I did!
Shai won't win it right now and may not win very many but he'll be like kobe in the sense that we'll look back and think "How did he not win like 5 of em"
yeah no
The MVP is decided by Media members. Not NBA coaches, players, or association representatives who actually know the game and actually have an inkling who really deserves it... The Media decides. Given that, the MVP may as well be a consolation prize for showing up since they can just pick their favorite rather than someone who actually deserves it.
Jokić is the one that deserves it if we are being honest
When the NBA players could vote for all star players we really saw some educated votes indeed. No nepotism at all.
No, SGA is not the MVP. There, you can end the video.