TQ HPR50 Motor Review | We Test 3 Lightweight e-MTBs With This German-Made Motor
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- See the full review and range test results here: flowmountainbike.com/tests/tq...
The TQ HPR50 motor debuted to considerable fanfare back in 2022 when it first appeared on the Trek Fuel EXe. As the lightest motor in its category, the HPR50 drive unit blew everyone away with its astonishingly compact form and whisper-quiet performance, changing our expectations of what a lightweight electric mountain bike could look and sound like.
Initially an exclusive for Trek, the HPR50 motor is now found on several lightweight e-MTBs including the Scott Lumen, Scott Voltage, Mondraker Neat, UNNO Ikki and Simplon Rapcon. The competition in this space is evolving at a rapid rate however, with the likes of the Bosch SX motor, Fazua Ride 60 system and an updated Specialized Levo SL returning fire at TQ.
So, nearly two years on since its official release, are we still just as impressed with the HPR50 motor as the day we first rode it? And how does it stack up against its modern day competitors?
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Video Contents
0:00 - TQ HPR50 Overview
0:42 - Harmonic Pin Ring Design
1:46 - Battery & Controls
2:36 - Strengths
5:02 - Downsides
6:29 - Heat Management
7:27 - Range Testing
8:27 - Optional Range Extender
9:37 - Flow's Verdict
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I've done over 2500kms on my EXE and love the intuitive silent ride. TQ, Trek and my LBS have shown amazing support
I definitely agree it is a great bike assist i love it.
Great review thanks! 👍
1,300 miles on my Trek. Flawless and even quieter now than new.
thanks for this review....looking forward to getting a trek fuel exe....and the long adventure rides...on my recovery days...
I love my EXe9.7. I can’t find any faults with it. I have about 2,500 miles on it. I’ve ridden in 100° + weather without it overheating. And, mine doesn’t have any pedal response problems. Mods I’ve done are: Hope T4E4 brakes. Marzocchi coil kit for the Fox 36 Rhythm fork, 2024 Fox X2 shock. 9Point8 dropper, Wolf Tooth seatpost clamp, stem spacers and cap, SDG saddle, I9 stem, OneUp carbon bar, Death Grip grips, One Up composite pedals and Penny Flake Slik Graphics for the fork and shock to match the frame. I absolutely love it! I wouldn’t change anything.
Sounds like you`ve already changed most of it 🤦♂
I have a lot to go. But anyway, what’s wrong with that? 🤦🏼♂️
We can all relate, just that last sentence was a bit contradictory 😆👍🏻
@@sijmes I don’t believe it was. All bikes can be made better by tuning and bolting on parts that better suit the rider. I was referring to the parts that are actually made by Trek and TQ, the base package.
Great review Wil 👏. You mentioned how it stacks up against the fazua in terms of peak power and acceleration, just wondering how the tq stacks up against the ep8rs and bosch sx? I'd imagine these motor systems would be closer to the fazua than the tq?
I’ve tried all the light eMTB motors. The SX is by far more powerful of all, then there is the EP8 RS, then Fazua and the others.
The RS is more linear of all, the SX is more dynamic…like a two stroke motor with 2 very distinct behaviors at low or high rpm
Did you manage to try the Mondraker Neat in your test 🤔
Hi there. What or who would you classify as a light/heavy rider ?
I think that definition will mostly be up to the individual when it comes to evaluating where they sit on the weight/fitness spectrum.
However, using a Fox suspension setup chart as a guide, the middle of the rider weight range is 82kg. So you could say that riders further north of that would be considered ‘heavy’, and riders much lower than that could be considered ‘light’.
Does that help to answer your question?
[Wil]
@@FlowMountainBikeCZcams 200lbs is known as clydesdale (think big horse) for male riders, 180lbs (82kg) can seem damn near malnurished for the full time employed 50yr old+ e MTB consumer here in the US
You make reference to a heavier vs lighter rider where would you guys see the weight at which you think this change would be? From someone hoping to get into one to help build fitness and skill
Look in the mirror. If you could see yourself playing NFL, you’re heavy. If you are thinking that maybe you could be a gymnast, then you’re lightweight. 😂
The Trek Fuel EXe vs Ari Nebo Peak would be a good one.
How does it compare to Orbea Rise?
I returned my Fuel eXe after the fifth warranty issue over faulty electrics and replaced it with an Orbea Rise, which has been flawless
Yep I am a 105kg big boy, full power ebike FTW.
I bought a Fuel eXe from Trek when it first came out and loved it when it worked, but I had 5 warranty issues involving the electrics failing in the 3 months I owned it before returning it for a refund. I had never owned a Trek bike before and they were good to deal with, but the bike was rushed out before being ready - I wasted so much money and ruined so many rides that it left a bad taste in my mouth.
At 4:40, you mention that the system can tell based on power output whether someone is on flats or clips.
How can this be true? No one has ever been able to demonstrate a difference in power output between flats and clips, even in a laboratory setting, much less an actual trail.
I just hope all these different batteries from all the different manufacturers stay permanently available. When they stop holding a charge, and the battery is no longer available, these expensive toys are all going to be in the landfill.
I'm not an e-biker but I think your concern would make me choose a larger brand like bike company that you know will still be around in years to become
i want heavy and more power
Have heard of more than a few failures of the tq motor.
Links /articles/websites..😉
@@jamespond7496 Google would have answered your question in the same time it took to write your comment
So explain to me why other Bike manufacturers are now fitting the TQ HPR50 motor.😉
@@jamespond7496 the same reason specialized kept fitting the brose after it was snapping belts
🤣🤣 the TQ HPR50 doesn’t have belts 😂🤣
Light weight e-bikes, the perfect bike for exactly no use cases
Haha close minded individual.
Not everyone needs full power or a 50 lbs pig of a bike.
Love your mountain bike videos but e- bikes I could fucking care less. Start another channel for the e-bikes. I’m sure they are fun but that’s not why I follow your channel. I’m 59 years old and don’t have any desire to ride one for some time.
It's actually "couldn't" care less vs could.