Some old Soldiers house may have been hit by a Tornado and then his records were scattered to the wind. God bless him, I hope he survived the war and the severe weather event!
With all the tornado activity here in Oklahoma...I'm thinking someone lost this along with the building it was kept in. Flying from California? Nope. What a potential privacy breach! So? Now what?
It's probably one of the veterans on the paper who kept their orders each soldier got one back then they always included social security numbers on orders. Check around your neighbors to see if any of their names are living near you ❤ or one of their relatives
Back in 1972 SS #s were not used like they are today. In fact, to receive overseas mail, you had to put the social on the address. At least when my dad was stationed in Germany, that’s how we got our mail. His social had to be on the address.
When the SS#s were first created, *the gov promised they would not be used FOR ANY OTHER purpose.* Now look today, you have to give out your SS# for almost everything.
The paper is a standard form for Orders. Every military person got them. I suspect that a veteran !ay have died and family trashed his military records.
I love Wanda, she's exactly what a Grandmother Great Grandmother should be like. She's quick with her wit, what a fun interview. Better than, so when you got sucker punched in the face did you see who hit you?
Thank you Janna and Wanda for following up on this story. Janna I would love to know if those veterans made it back home alive. This is very interesting and mysterious. Ms. Wanda your Dogwood trees blossoms are beautiful. Your yard and home looks well loved. Both of you ladies take care and be well. And again, thank you both.😊
Oh that is a jewel ..God Bless this dear lady , when my dad returned in the airport he was spit on . Thank you dear lady for finding this ❤❤❤sending hugs
How awful for your Dad and other soldiers who endured such rhetoric upon their return home. 😢 I am grateful for their service. They were called to a war to serve, and the war itself was beyond their control. That's with any war, but especially Vietnam.
That letter proves the rank and file for someone on this list needing proof for a rank on a headstone or VA Hospital coverage for health care and medicine. I had to request this paper for my father when he got sick and needed medical care before he passed away. He was USMC Vietnam.
I would imagine that came via a bathroom in Florida. Fox News makes a big deal out of a single page document from 1970s but a whole stack in a Florida bathroom no problem whatsoever.
@@terywetherlow7970 nope, all documents recovered. at least he does drive. Trump cannot drive, unless it's a cart and there are no roads to confuse him. you know it's true. he gets lackeys to drive him around. that's what you are to him,a _lackey_ . you lack what he has. he uses that fact.
My dad was in the Vietnam war and when he came back where we lived it wasn’t even safe for him to wear his uniform off base. So sad!!! Thank you for your lovely thoughts for all of the soldiers a true American!!🇺🇸
Watching this from Southeastern Pennsylvania and I can't wait to hear the outcome! My oldest brother was in Vietnam and I remember as a 10-year old watching the 6:30 CBS News Walter Cronkite "Roll Call" every night, making sure that his name wasn't on it. Thankfully, he came home safely.
What an absolutely beautiful and intelligent woman. And her home is beautiful as well. This may have blown out of someone’s records for any of a multitude of reasons. There isn’t a process to recover military records after a life is complete and families have no use or understanding of them.
Looks like a Duty or Company/type roster....Ironically found in Broken Arrow (a term important to US Military in that period of History)....someones shadow box got dumped.
@@lindatimmons3675 But the info contained in said paper is well over 50 years old, and, what 50 year old info should be withheld from our Servicemen and Women? None !
@@aloberdorf4579 did you even watch the clip?- you think documents that contain peoples entire social security numbers should be made available to anyone let alone public? Yes its 50 years old but some of those vets will most certainly still be alive, they may be older now but theyd still be alive & those numbers could be used to do great harm to their livlihoods. This document is literally JUST a roster that specfically contains each vetran on its full social security number, thats literally it. Thats not information that needa to be available EVEN to fellow service members, there is absolutley zero reason for a document like that to even exist & if it must exist than it certainly shouldnt be available to anyone or left outside a secure goverment building...
@@ar4203 As I am one of those Vets....I am not too worried about the #'s thing...as Uncle gave all Americans info to Foreign Nations, indirectly and indirectly. I agree that said info has potentially damaging Personal info content, My reference was to CYA Operations conducted by the Great White Father 50 years ago, prior to "Don't ask, Don't tell". Many US Service members, past and present are witness to this. The difficulty is in digging through the Chaff. I hope all the Members listed are alive, and receiving SS Benefits today. Thanks for the take.
Wow! My last name is Brown, from the Bay Area. I remember being really little in the 70’s and all the controversy! ✨🇺🇸✨ God Bless them.! Thank you for your service, I hope they’re ok.
Well, with the fact Oklahoma is is Tornado Alley, this was probably in the personal papers of one of our Veterans' Personal effects, and quite possibly, his home was damaged or destroyed and this paer was taken up in a whirlwind and deposited in Wanda's yard. Maybe Janet can suss this out for her,
Could have come from a concrete bunker thing that a military guy had thousands of military related documents and military items. The site is in moody Texas. It was open and papers would regularly fly out or tornadoes would take items and papers out. I could believe it flew up there.
I think it’s not an accident. I went online last month to see if an Oklahoma friend was ok in the path of a storm and found her obituary. It’s been sad but I’m so glad for the internet. I don’t think it’s a bad thing but sometimes you get answers right from heaven maybe. What a lovely lady and thank you for caring people who don’t forget.
First it was blown out of the fire pit where it was intended then it blew in the back of a truck that drove it east. After that the desert winds picked it up, meeting with Oklahoma tornado daily wind and came to its final resting place, this lady's yard.
Best way to obtain a decedent 's info for identification. Imagine that.Just to be clear,no illegal immigrant inference directly. Plenty of people use poached identification, ss,etc. I'm referring mostly to passwords,acess /codes or people sell clearance and likewise abroad,the implications, yikes.
It would appear from the limited views during the interview that the document is a soldiers set of orders for deployment to Vietnam. Soldiers would possess them in their records and would in most cases keep extra copies in their files. If a soldier has his files still stored from that era in his home or other location and a storm destroyed the location the paper could have been carried over a great distance. If a storage location was emptied out and the paper hauled in a trash truck it could have blown out. I remember serving during that time frame and when you received orders you received a stack of about 25 to be distributed as you reported out/in at different locations. Most soldiers kept copies of their files for a paper trail.
I believe there are huge US government storage facilities in the man-made salt caves of Missouri. I'm sure the facility is constantly digitizing and trashing old records. This could have been one of those records that was meant to be destroyed but which somehow ended up getting lost in the wind and ended up a few hundred miles away.
I say some old soldiers house got hit by a Oklahoma tornado and blew it up in the air I’m in Iowa a tornado hit a small town and a person 90 miles north of the town found a picture of a ww2 photo in there yard.
Pretty sure she read the whole thing….since she said “it was vvveeerrryyyy personal.” Why is this a news story? It friggin flew out of someone’s garbage after they cleaned grandpa’s house. How about a news story about how we treat our vets after they’ve served us, how they have horrible medical /mental health care help. Why are they not being taken care of?
I moved to Broken Arrow in 1975. I don't know how things are now. But back then i turned in my driver's license. When Oklahoma issued me a driver's license I was shocked they used my social security number as the license number. Is it still that way in Oklahoma? I moved back to California in 1977
I believe the paper came from a home or office that was destroyed by recent tornado activity near Broken Arrow or Tulsa and belonged to a California transplant who could’ve moved to the area at any time. People often find papers and photos several miles or even counties away after tornadoes have passed through.
Most likely these orders were sent out to each individual listed. "Marching Orders" so to speak , as notification they were getting ready to go , get your affairs in order , heres what you need to deploy. If each individual did not get one it went to their Commander who notified each member minus others names and SS numbers . Their world was about to change in ways they couldnt imagine.
This document maybe used by family of these men to obtain the DD-214 of the soldier. Having a DD-214 family could find what awards he may have been awarded. Dates of service etc. May lead to unused benefits.
That was a really long story with no payoff. I thought this was going to be an original copy of the constitution or something. Instead it was someone’s personal copy of a public record. It’s not a secret. It’s a declassified public record. There must be nothing happening in that area to report on.
"…because I love our country…" What a sweet woman!
I hope every person on the list is not only alive, but they also make contact with her.
Amen ❤
Highly doubtful. Half the men sent to Vietnam were killed.
@@ohmeowzer1.....
Oh yes absolutely
The answers are blowing in the wind
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Exactly!
☮️🕊️💐🙏💐🕊️☮️ Where have all the Flowers gone, long time passing. When will we ever learn, When will we ever learn? 💔🕊️🙏💔🌹…🎶🎼🎵
Some old Soldiers house may have been hit by a Tornado and then his records were scattered to the wind. God bless him, I hope he survived the war and the severe weather event!
Thank you to every person serving in our military who served and gave their time and energy to keep our country safe.
America keeps the whole world safe. Small countries are grateful.
With all the tornado activity here in Oklahoma...I'm thinking someone lost this along with the building it was kept in.
Flying from California? Nope.
What a potential privacy breach!
So? Now what?
Great Memorial Day story. God bless all our soldiers who gave their lives for US.
"story"
@ReginaRedding try getting a life, then you might have a story.
What a lovely lady.
It's probably one of the veterans on the paper who kept their orders each soldier got one back then they always included social security numbers on orders. Check around your neighbors to see if any of their names are living near you ❤ or one of their relatives
Back in 1972 SS #s were not used like they are today. In fact, to receive overseas mail, you had to put the social on the address. At least when my dad was stationed in Germany, that’s how we got our mail. His social had to be on the address.
Thank you for that clarification.
Agree and even to get medical records ect for dependents it was all under my dads social.
Yeah, when my dad was in nam he had a service number, when I was in, it was my ssn.
When the SS#s were first created, *the gov promised they would not be used FOR ANY OTHER purpose.* Now look today, you have to give out your SS# for almost everything.
The paper is a standard form for Orders. Every military person got them. I suspect that a veteran !ay have died and family trashed his
military records.
I hope you can find them! My brother served on Guam in a support role and my brother in law fought in Viet Nam.
I think I had that couch at one time. Bless this woman for not just throwing it out as trash.
I love Wanda, she's exactly what a Grandmother Great Grandmother should be like. She's quick with her wit, what a fun interview. Better than, so when you got sucker punched in the face did you see who hit you?
20 billion missing from taxpayers every one of them in California should be talking about this
The pentagon has failed six audits in a row. They can’t account for 60% of their annual budget. Billions they cannot account for. 🙈
This the dumbest disconnected from topic comment I've seen in quite awhile
What a sweet lady. Would love to have a Grandma like that ❤️
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There is absolutely no way that survived just being in the air from Cali to OK. Someone probably threw it away
“That’s heavy” 🙄
metaphorical hyperbole
God bless you, sweet lady!
Thank you Janna and Wanda for following up on this story. Janna I would love to know if those veterans made it back home alive. This is very interesting and mysterious. Ms. Wanda your Dogwood trees blossoms are beautiful. Your yard and home looks well loved. Both of you ladies take care and be well. And again, thank you both.😊
Oh that is a jewel ..God Bless this dear lady , when my dad returned in the airport he was spit on . Thank you dear lady for finding this ❤❤❤sending hugs
How awful for your Dad and other soldiers who endured such rhetoric upon their return home. 😢
I am grateful for their service.
They were called to a war to serve, and the war itself was beyond their control.
That's with any war, but especially Vietnam.
That letter proves the rank and file for someone on this list needing proof for a rank on a headstone or VA Hospital coverage for health care and medicine. I had to request this paper for my father when he got sick and needed medical care before he passed away. He was USMC Vietnam.
Hopefully we will catch the update info.!! VERY nice woman- I wish everyone had a slice of her humbleness!
I would imagine that came via a bathroom in Florida. Fox News makes a big deal out of a single page document from 1970s but a whole stack in a Florida bathroom no problem whatsoever.
Or from a Garage with a Corvette.
@@terywetherlow7970 nope, all documents recovered.
at least he does drive. Trump cannot drive, unless it's a cart and there are no roads to confuse him.
you know it's true. he gets lackeys to drive him around.
that's what you are to him,a _lackey_ . you lack what he has. he uses that fact.
My dad was in the Vietnam war and when he came back where we lived it wasn’t even safe for him to wear his uniform off base. So sad!!! Thank you for your lovely thoughts for all of the soldiers a true American!!🇺🇸
Veteran here. Amazing find. But not sure those were SSNs. We used military serial numbers until later...I think
Watching this from Southeastern Pennsylvania and I can't wait to hear the outcome!
My oldest brother was in Vietnam and I remember as a 10-year old watching the 6:30 CBS News Walter Cronkite "Roll Call" every night, making sure that his name wasn't on it. Thankfully, he came home safely.
What an absolutely beautiful and intelligent woman. And her home is beautiful as well. This may have blown out of someone’s records for any of a multitude of reasons. There isn’t a process to recover military records after a life is complete and families have no use or understanding of them.
That is a genealogy treasure.
Yes it absolutely is. As one who does genealogy as a hobby it really is.
Looks like a Duty or Company/type roster....Ironically found in Broken Arrow (a term important to US Military in that period of History)....someones shadow box got dumped.
Possibly and these types of things need to be shredded because of the info they contain.
@@lindatimmons3675 But the info contained in said paper is well over 50 years old, and, what 50 year old info should be withheld from our Servicemen and Women? None !
Shredders are only 20-25 years around.
@@aloberdorf4579 did you even watch the clip?- you think documents that contain peoples entire social security numbers should be made available to anyone let alone public? Yes its 50 years old but some of those vets will most certainly still be alive, they may be older now but theyd still be alive & those numbers could be used to do great harm to their livlihoods. This document is literally JUST a roster that specfically contains each vetran on its full social security number, thats literally it. Thats not information that needa to be available EVEN to fellow service members, there is absolutley zero reason for a document like that to even exist & if it must exist than it certainly shouldnt be available to anyone or left outside a secure goverment building...
@@ar4203 As I am one of those Vets....I am not too worried about the #'s thing...as Uncle gave all Americans info to Foreign Nations, indirectly and indirectly. I agree that said info has potentially damaging Personal info content,
My reference was to CYA Operations conducted by the Great White Father 50 years ago, prior to "Don't ask, Don't tell". Many US Service members, past and present are witness to this. The difficulty is in digging through the Chaff. I hope all the Members listed are alive, and receiving SS Benefits today. Thanks for the take.
Wow! My last name is Brown, from the Bay Area. I remember being really little in the 70’s and all the controversy! ✨🇺🇸✨ God Bless them.! Thank you for your service, I hope they’re ok.
Well, with the fact Oklahoma is is Tornado Alley, this was probably in the personal papers of one of our Veterans' Personal effects, and quite possibly, his home was damaged or destroyed and this paer was taken up in a whirlwind and deposited in Wanda's yard. Maybe Janet can suss this out for her,
Could have come from a concrete bunker thing that a military guy had thousands of military related documents and military items. The site is in moody Texas. It was open and papers would regularly fly out or tornadoes would take items and papers out. I could believe it flew up there.
I think it’s not an accident. I went online last month to see if an Oklahoma friend was ok in the path of a storm and found her obituary. It’s been sad but I’m so glad for the internet. I don’t think it’s a bad thing but sometimes you get answers right from heaven maybe. What a lovely lady and thank you for caring people who don’t forget.
Probably from the tornados
First it was blown out of the fire pit where it was intended then it blew in the back of a truck that drove it east. After that the desert winds picked it up, meeting with Oklahoma tornado daily wind and came to its final resting place, this lady's yard.
Tornado.
Probably a home destroyed.
Best way to obtain a decedent 's info for identification. Imagine that.Just to be clear,no illegal immigrant inference directly. Plenty of people use poached identification, ss,etc.
I'm referring mostly to passwords,acess /codes or people sell clearance and likewise abroad,the implications, yikes.
Thank you good lady, there are not many of you around these days. Good to see someone patriotic
Robert G Bishop is a doctor in Nashville
It would appear from the limited views during the interview that the document is a soldiers set of orders for deployment to Vietnam. Soldiers would possess them in their records and would in most cases keep extra copies in their files. If a soldier has his files still stored from that era in his home or other location and a storm destroyed the location the paper could have been carried over a great distance. If a storage location was emptied out and the paper hauled in a trash truck it could have blown out. I remember serving during that time frame and when you received orders you received a stack of about 25 to be distributed as you reported out/in at different locations. Most soldiers kept copies of their files for a paper trail.
WOW💜💜
I believe there are huge US government storage facilities in the man-made salt caves of Missouri. I'm sure the facility is constantly digitizing and trashing old records. This could have been one of those records that was meant to be destroyed but which somehow ended up getting lost in the wind and ended up a few hundred miles away.
I say some old soldiers house got hit by a Oklahoma tornado and blew it up in the air I’m in Iowa a tornado hit a small town and a person 90 miles north of the town found a picture of a ww2 photo in there yard.
Why don't u look at the issue of tornadoes mind good possibility
Keep us posted!!!❤
Amazing. Sobering. Glad this woman was the conduit to remember these men.
Fascinating story! Thank you
Wow !!😳 😱
Unbelievable!!
That Document came from a government official office because when we get orders it doesn’t have any other name except yours
charles fort 'the book of the damned' has an explanation for these enigmatic phenonomen
It could have blown for hundred of miles, considering the tornadoes in the region as of lately.
I know Wanda! I haven't seen her in 30 years! wow... (I live in California and back in the early 90's I was engaged to Gary Talley)
Maybe out of Altus AFB
Maybe but there's also Vance Air Force Base in Enid,OK. Not sure where exactly this town is that this was found in.
Maybe but there's also Vance Air Force Base in Enid,OK. Not sure where exactly this town is that this was found in.
Pretty sure she read the whole thing….since she said “it was vvveeerrryyyy personal.” Why is this a news story? It friggin flew out of someone’s garbage after they cleaned grandpa’s house. How about a news story about how we treat our vets after they’ve served us, how they have horrible medical /mental health care help. Why are they not being taken care of?
Not every news story needs to be negative. Calm down
What a lovely young lady she is!
I moved to Broken Arrow in 1975. I don't know how things are now. But back then i turned in my driver's license. When Oklahoma issued me a driver's license I was shocked they used my social security number as the license number. Is it still that way in Oklahoma? I moved back to California in 1977
I mean, people do relocate to different states. It happens all the time.
I believe the paper came from a home or office that was destroyed by recent tornado activity near Broken Arrow or Tulsa and belonged to a California transplant who could’ve moved to the area at any time. People often find papers and photos several miles or even counties away after tornadoes have passed through.
A tornado blew it away from somewhere. 😂
It could very well have.
Clearly one made it back.
Amazing
When I was in they gave us serial numbers,then switched to SS numbers. 71-75. Must have been in 71 they switched over?
😢 what a sweet sweet woman ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Welcome to Oklahoma!
When I went into the insurance business in 1974 . We were required to put our social SS# on all applications .
Maybe your house is built on a graveyard?
Most likely these orders were sent out to each individual listed. "Marching Orders" so to speak , as notification they were getting ready to go , get your affairs in order , heres what you need to deploy. If each individual did not get one it went to their Commander who notified each member minus others names and SS numbers . Their world was about to change in ways they couldnt imagine.
This is like a Dateline episode.
I would find the Signature of the Captain First to see if he lives nearby. Then search for others to see if they live near-by.
Please let us know what you find. Thank you!
I have one of these. It was in my grandmas deployment paperwork just no SS numbers.
I had a friend who couldn't get benefits apparently because a fire destroyed Vet records even with what ever proof he had.. RIP Dean Taylor 🙏🙏🙏
Scary. Recruiting office?
The question is who is the incompetent government official that let it out of a secure area....
Can they drag out this story any longer?
Is anyone using their info now?
Even papers are trying to leave CALIFORNIA
Perhaps there is a portal.The two are somewhat lined up on the map
Grandpa Uncle died and someone set it free.
It came all the way from California...in a moving van.
*Some of those people didn't come back.*
Was this like those documents by the corvette in the garage or more like the documents at the golf course house…? Neither this was an accident
What did you do, record her story, then chop it up with inserted questions, some of which were lame. You need better editors.
It may be from a place that was hit by a tornado.
Dale K Graham’s Veterans Foundation in Norman
slow news day in Broken Arrow
She's on a leyline!
....or telluric current
This document maybe used by family of these men to obtain the DD-214 of the soldier. Having a DD-214 family could find what awards he may have been awarded. Dates of service etc. May lead to unused benefits.
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Her chart comes through dubs of other Patient - Doctor was conscientious toward her ..decency ..yet..confidentiality rated
🌪️ Must have carried it from a vet home
wow, how weird, would love to see that!! lol..
Military orders I’ve got quite a few of those 😊 came from someone personal file
Im from Oakland Ca and live in Oakland Ca
That was a really long story with no payoff. I thought this was going to be an original copy of the constitution or something. Instead it was someone’s personal copy of a public record. It’s not a secret. It’s a declassified public record. There must be nothing happening in that area to report on.
Some old soldiers set of orders. Probably from a tornado wrecked house.
Came from one of Ok military bases. Probably in the trash
Tornado debris?
This must be Frank Dux Delta Farce records...Kumate