R6 vs RS660 vs Ninja 650 (What Makes the Perfect Sports Bike?)
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These are no comparison lol
What do you think about the tuono 660 being a better road bike daily rider than the rs660.
@@markb3480 I keep waiting Patiently... I M confident it will be one of his future giveaway bikes...
But I feel like there was a missed opportunity to have them in the shop at the same time.. For a side-by-side comparison of the RS an tuono 660
Dude if you're going to do this can you throw in something like a 675 or 848? It would be good to see how the larger capacity goes on more focussed bikes. Same with a more lazy 4cyl like a CBR 650 or something.
I'll take a GSX-R750 over any of these. Perfect split between a liter bike and a 600. $5000 less, with 130hp. Why they make these weak powered 600 bikes is beyond me.
Y'all forgot the most important thing: The R6 literally looks like sex on two wheels.
Sadly it's getting discontinued
the rs660 is quite sexy also
@@bonda_racing3579 shame, feel in love with it last month after seeing a blue one.
@@sv_cheats1970 atleast it's getting replaced with the yzf - R7
have you seen a Ducati?
“But, but which ones faster” YOU GOT ME DEAD
With that little smile on his face it just got me 🤣
Perfect hook in my opinion
R6 THE King 👑
R6 🔥
R6 on track RS 660 on street
So my takeaway is that the R6 is more like the R6000 (because it's 1000% overkill for the street) the RS660 is like a miracle hybrid between a sport bike and a naked bike with great controls and rider modes... and the 650 is like when you get home and get to take ya pants off
I’d argue that anything with less than ~130bhp is never going to be “overkill” for the road. A Panigale V4?? For sure, but anything where you are really going to struggle to light up the rear tyres without TC engaged? Nah. This was supposed to be a video on “Best SPORTS bike”, not “Best Sports Tourer”. With these 3 choices, there is nothing close. I have a Street Triple 765 RS (naked) that will embarrass everything here except the R6. If you want to tour, get a touring bike. If you want a lunatic, fun, SPORTSbike, grab an R6. Or get a naked and actually learn how to ride. As for the R6 not being a great “first” motorcycle, my first bike was a K6 GSXR-1000. Any bike is only ever as stupid as the rider. I never intended to buy a K6 but it was (and still is), in my opinion, the best ever mass-produced superbike on the planet. No TC, no cat, titanium full system basically as standard and (legend has it) it’s the bike that BMW aped to create the S1000RR. Except they (in typical BMW style) managed to leave out all of the “personality” of the engine.
You will be made fun of by real sportbike riders if you don’t choose the R6
@@TheInfantry98 you worried about what other people think. So sad
@@TheInfantry98 you can’t live your life worrying what other think all the time. Pick what you like not what others like
@@TheInfantry98that's ok by me. I hope most people don't worry about such things. For me cheaper insurance , msrp, less fan fare so cheaper to buy used too as well as the more usable power band make it better value. 😊
I think 40-80 for the R6 wasn't really fair. Rider didn't make use of R6's top end and started 40 at gear 4. Should have been on like gear 2 or 3.
Bottom line is the R6 deliver it's power at higher RPM
It demonstrated the most likely scenario a street rider would be in, and it showed the R6's weak point. If you want the best out of the R6, you gotta keep the revs in the upper third of its range, which isn't practical for most street riding situations.
@@willardivins3736 I don't live in the states, so pardon my lack of knowledge; by streets do you mean areas where there are traffic lights and you come to a stop every now and then?
If that's the case, the way I ride, is completely opposite of what you stated. If I'm travelling at 40mph on the streets, I would keep it in gear 3, or high revs. If I need even more power, all I need to do is downshift. Only when I get on the expressway or freeway, then I upshift to lower revs to cruise more efficiently.
As for the video, it still doesn't make sense to start accelerating at gear 4. A seasoned rider would know that if he needs to accelerate quickly and he isn't at the optimal gear, he would downshift (such as from 4 to 3), which wouldn't even take a second.
@@Cptjonmiller you are 100% correct. I think the makers of the video are coming from the standpoint of a new rider. New riders are really not going to know that you can ride in third gear on an R6. The r6 is the monster in the room. In reality the only weak points of the R6 is it’s comfortability from a experienced riders standpoint.
I couldnt agree with you enough, dude doesnt understand how to properly ride the r6. He's granny riding it and thats not why he's not getting the results he's looking for, I own a 2015 r6 .....
Wanted the RS660 so bad but the Ninja 650 was way more comfortable. Happy that I chose the Ninja but DAMN every time I see the Aprilia, it hurts a little.
Whats the reason why you didnt go with the zx6r?
bruh he JUST said he chose the 650 for how comfortable it is. the zx6r has a track-heavy pose 🤦🏻♂️
@@kevinhernandezretana2170 just to update, I totaled the brand new 2021 Ninja 650 by whiskey throttling and releasing the clutch instead of the throttle 4 feet from a parking barricade. Bike went airborne, I went down onto said barricade. 8 total miles of slow parking lot practice and then that happened. Full gear saved me from some bad injuries. Waiting for insurance to clear it all up and then I’ll hit the dealership again...
@@mattgray9297 Damn bro that's rough. At least you didn't get hurt bad.
Keep this mantra in mind next time: "Clutch in is my friend"
Where I live its just over half the price of a new R6!
"I wanna go FAST!". That's like 90% of the "BRO" type guys getting into motorcycling.
Sometimes it's about the feel and the look though too, at least for me. It's the experience of a sportbike for me! You're not wrong though! I do hate as a sportbike fanatic that people do tend to lump us all into the *Go fast, like an idiot* crowd that middleweights have attracted in the past.
@@Blottski I went from SV650 to street triple and JUST bought my first sport bike. I went current gen ZX6R, after i was 1 million percent convinced I wanted an R6. There is just no denying the ZX6R is PERFECT for how I ride and what I like to do, but I think the R6 is the most attractive bike in its class. People just have to be real about what they are looking to get out of a bike. They all go 'fast', some just get to fast a lot quicker than others, and some don't get 'fast' until you're at 10k RPMS.
Just pick the right tool for your specific job
@@yuhyuhtheindigo7085 the zx will smoke the r6 all day, the r6 definitely looks better
Yeah I got into motorcycles because of fate lol all my elders loved them my poppy and his brothers and all and I just love the culture (stunting especially) the ease of a little companion that's easier to work on than a car cheaper everything lol. I feel like a motorcycle is your dog like a best friend and a car is like a horse whether you have a compact like a donkey or a truck like a mule or a race horse, Kind of a weird analogy but I'm weird.
BRO is the same thing that say when they bust that ass being a one trick pony too..😄😄
you should've tested the r6 40-80 in first or second gear not 4TH!!
The R6 was in 6th for the 40-80 . What a joke
yea thats not real world, you gotta ride the bike right as you would in real life...
Their 0 to 60 sprint was also a joke. 4 seconds? Since when did an R6 get slower than 3.5 seconds?
Yeah dude what the heck
@@EjinRenos you ever launched an R6? Not the easiest thing since it’s absolutely gutless below 10k rpm. The Ninja and RS660 have quick torque off the line, 0-60 shouldn’t be that shocking. Do 50+ rolls though and the R6 in first gear will trounce any of these, but it’s in its power band already…
Papa Yam: "Don't ride with people that peer pressure you"
Also Papa Yam: "come on! wring that bitch out!!"
Do as he says, not as he does
For the people that say that the zx6r was a better match, you are literally missing the point of the video. It is supposed to represent a softer fully faired motorcycle, not an equivalent to the r6... None of the bikes were in the same class you dummies.
Exactly, ones a traditional parallel twin, ones a 270 parallel twin that can rev a little higher, and ones a 4 cylinder. To the untrained, they're all in the same 600cc class. But in the real world, day to day commute I'd have the Kawasaki. Fun on weekends with some track, Aprilia. Track only, R6. Depends on where and how you ride. In town, stop light to stop light, Ninja would be better.
Well why then not CBR650R 2021?
@@sergeyzerkin8029 it's a 4 cylinder. That wasn't the point of the video. They did a casting call. The Ninja 650 and R6 is who showed up first
but it's priced the same as a 600cc supersport? If you value comfort, check out Honda and Suzuki. If you want the most power and speed, ZX6R. If you want a slow and uncomfortable cancelled bike, R6. Honda is as comfortable as Aprilia, faster, and won't have a mechanical failure after 3 weeks (see Yammie's newer vid on engine light lmfao)
@@sergeyzerkin8029 the CBR probably fits in between the ninja 650 and the rs 660, it pulls a bit harder in the top but the rs 660 is sportier, doesn't need an downshift for torque and has way more advanced tech and setup than the CBR. I would choose the CBR over the ninja 650 all day tho. I am still debating between the rs 660 and the CBR650R for my next bike
Been watching for YEARS. ever since the can a r3 keep up video. I have to say this channel's quality has gotten so much better!
Oh man. Remember the top 5 days?
I have been riding for 55 years, raced professional motorcross and flat track. Buy the bike that offers stability control with IMU. Electronics always have your back at 100% when some days you maybe at 90%
So what bikes do you suggest
except they dont electronics can fail too and if u are used to the comfort of anything electronic u are just fucked when they fail and u need them
@@kkklll694 Yeah sure thats possible just as possible as a mechanical failure which would fuck you even more, like your chain breaking.
You still have to know how to ride even with electronics, they wont do the work for you they will only support you.
@@Sheep101 ofc mechanical problems are possible too but why add more things that can fail?
@@kkklll694 Because they, as the guy above said, 'have your back' not constantly but when you mess up and you do at some point.
Still loving my 20' 650. 💓
Yeah I've had a fz6r for 5 years and still cant use 85% of the bike on a track. Yet all my friends telling me its a beginner bike and I need something bigger. No thanks I can still keep up on the street and the bike isn't overheating while riding in the city. I'm actually thinking buying a fz07 or sv650 to replace the fz6r.
@@EnhancedChimp Just this past holiday, I was told that I might want to upgrade. Nah, my bike can go 113 to 120 when I push it. There's no need for another bike. Sure there's more torque to be felt, but I'd rather keep to the bike that I already own.
The skit at the beginning is gold 😂 I always knew Spite was a wannabe fastboi
Im diggin that intro music btw
Hell yeah! I instantly Shazammed it. Try So Hard by Aves! Mmm... Good stuff.
@@michaelhamilton4450 Thanks!
Me too!
@@michaelhamilton4450 Thanks Bruh!
It's not bad
Tbh I like all the 3 bikes. The 650 is a good sports tourer that can do track riding and will keep u satisfied for a long time. The 6r is a track beast and the rs660 is a great middle ground between the 2.
Shoulda done a zx6r, woulda out preformed everything there
I think they would be a perfect 1st 2nd and 3rd bike.
My first bike was a '17 Ninja 650. Absolutely loved that bike and sometimes I wish I didn't get rid of it!
Rule No. 1: Never sell a bike. Ride that side until it dies. It would devastate me to ever see (or even imagine) someone else riding a bike that I loved ;). I don’t know how people sell bikes that they love. Cars?? No problem but there is just something about motorcycles that mean I never sell one I love. It either dies; or I wrap it around a tree ;).
So then why did you?
@@j0oker937 money is the only answer I have.
@@rodrick722 hahah dam, I guess it was your only chose. But I mean for how long did you own it? I’m new to the mf world but doesn’t the price exponentially go down or did you beat a great deal?
Just bought my first bike. 17 ninja 650 as well it's a very awesome piece
As a 29 year old who started on a 2006 Yamaha R6 and has never ridden anything else, yes it gets uncomfortable after riding for a while, but the full throttle acceleration, tight handling, and styling are addicting. With that said, I love my bike and have no trouble commuting on it 20 minutes to and from work or taking it out on a weekend ride for a few hours. But my next bike will definitely be something more comfortable!
That’s why I have a cruiser alongside my R6. It really is the best of both worlds
I rode R6 in the past and I am so glad now to have RS660 in my garage. It is perfect do it all bike and I can ride it for hours without any pain.
06 R6 was my first, got up to 55k miles. I thought I got a crappy choice. I was wrong. Wanted a Gsxr 750 like almost every idiot out there so I would be fast but the R6 is fast from mid range to redline. Just sluggish under 6k rpm.
However the bike shines as being the best handling sport bike. I have a 14 zx6r 636 now. Its fast. Has low end torque. Spins tires. Horribly uncomfortable. And doesn't like turns.
I'm 16, gonna be 17 in 2 months and I'm saving for the 06 r6, went ahead and got a job so my parents don't have to pay a dime from license, registration and the bike itself. I literally can't wait to buy it, I know its a bit too much for someone my age but as long as I ride under 6k rpm I should be fine, once I get the hang of it, I'm gonna let the beast out [safely of course] haha
@@mohammedshahir2816 nice
Dude these videos just get better and better! Love this new approach yam n crew are taking ;)
I don't like how the speed test was done specifically the 40-80 on the R6.
You cant do a 40 pull on an R6 in 4th gear... I agree with you 100%
Dude should’ve been in first . . . And for the 0-60 he was way too nice to that clutch
Its the only thing I didn't agree with. 2nd, 3rd Gear tops is what I ride around on when I need to boogie.
The R6 runs where boorish all around. I know my R6 didn't really start to build any power till 6k rpm but this seemed like someone held back a lot on the R6
@@EjinRenos The newer model (I tried the '17) didn't get on the cam until about 10-11k, wherein it turns into a different bike. At the low end it feels like a very smooth small parallel twin. Very gentle pull.
It's so nice when you bring the whole crew out❤️
r6 is the best. i own mine for 6 years already, still love it. milage is getting kind of high now, might trade for tuono v4 1100 that i also love.
It's funny that on the 40-80 runs, the Aprilia was the only one that started high rpm. Had to find some way for it to come out on top
It’s an editing mistake
@@yammienoob don't get me wrong. I'm sold. I'd love to try the RS 660 on these back roads in Kentucky. To me, on street, that bike would be all anyone needs!!
@@yammienoob you're doing something right. I'm not a beginner anymore but am still here as soon as you drop a video. I know I'm not alone on this either. Keep it up.
@@yammienoob so they were all tested in the same gear at 40 mph?
@@yammienoob you can see the Aprilia is in 1st gear and the Ninja and R6 are in 4th. So full of it. "real world" test *yawn*
Good video!
In 2008 Aprilia did something similar. Launched between boring naked bikes and hardcore Triumphs they launched the Shiver 750. It had Brembo brakes, adjustable suspension, 95 hp, rider modes, Italian styling, abs and a good front end feel.
I got the 650’as my first bike, I was not disappointed, it had everything I needed.
You get what you pay for tho, not the greatest brakes or suspension but great for the price.
The ninja400/650 are probably in the realm of the greatest first bikes. You picked smart.
Totally agree when he's talking about the ergonomics of the r6. The more into the lean you are the more "right" it feels. Definitely makes you wanna keep pushing the limits of it. And it 100% can end in disaster haha. Learned that the hard way. Happy to still be here
Ninja 650, RS 660, and an R6, that’s probably the dream garage right there🤤
All you're missing is a middleweight adv/largish dual sport and you can do everything.
@@whimsicalstray yeah swap the 660 with a dual sport or adventure bike
@@handgunpro3195 hell nah swap the 650 its too boring lmao
650 for the zx6r
Lol not even close
Glad you brought up the dyno chart. A objective view of engine vs subject
The best video to explain the differences between sport and super sport ever.👍 Cowboy Yam!
2020 ninja 650 owner here 🏍💨
How do you like it? Looking at getting the pearl blizzard white 2020 650 after I do the msf course in 2 weeks.
@@sinbagel5859I had a 2016 ninja 650 as my first bike, and unless they made the new one shorter and lighter.. it's a pretty tall and heavy bike. So if it's your first you will for sure drop it 😂 I sure did 3 times. PLENTY fast but the Parallel twin doesn't sound that great and it vibrates a bit when compared to an inline 4. Overall loved mine
@@andresfernandez2405 yeah I feel that I'm 6'1" amd I learned to ride years ago on my dad 1970 vtwin softtail. So I'm used to heavy bikes. Thats not so much my worry. It's more the ride itself.
@@sinbagel5859 I have mine for a month now. It’s a super comfortable bike, it rides smooth, turns are easy as hell. 0-60 is like satisfying. The bike is above all just very sexy, it looks more expensive than it really is.
Also, Something that yammie doesn’t tell, is the fun factor you will get out of it. I can assure you, you will not be disappointed.
The only cons i can think of is the vibrating at higher speeds (even though it is not that bad) and the stock exhaust. But I’ve put a leovince on it, so me is happy.
In short, i love mine. Hope it takes away any doubts. Good luck with the msf and enjoy your new bike ✌🏻
Nice, I have a 2018 ninja 650. Great for me (second bike). Drooling over the Aprilia, though for the $5k I paid for the Kawi, it is light on the wallet and easy to ride
For me:ninja 650 are for everyday usage.Aprilia 660 are for weekend riding .r6 for giving a challenge on a track.i don't expect ninja can beat the r6 on the acceleration before watching this video 😂. thanks for the info 👍👍👍
What's your thoughts on the cbr 650r
Ayyy I have a 2013 ninja 650 with 21k miles, full gp exhaust so it's super loud and it runs extremely good!
7:15 talking like that about the ninja, people are gonna think it's slow, it's still very fast, it's just that the other 2 are even faster
Greaaat explanation and comparison of these 3 bikes. Please do more triple comparisons like this.
Between the Tuono content, all the track videos, and Yam's memories of the R1, I have a feeling the next expert bike is going to be a proper liter bike.
You’re goddamn right it will be 🔥
What’s wrong with the R1?
ZX-10R when?
Jonathan Esqueda nothing, it was just a previous give away bike
@@yammienoob fire blade? 😂
"Having to wait for the power sucks Dick!" that's exactly how I feel about 600s (race reps). I've always felt that for an intermediate to advanced street rider the V-Twin 1000s were really where it was at. Hammer the throttle and instant power, for either lofting the front wheel or just pulling out of a corner like a freight train. Honda SuperHawk VTR1000, Suzuki TL1000R, and SV1000S the old Aprilia Tuono/RSV MilleR etc. all were so great.
0 to 60mph(the most important one for me)Ninja650 is the winner because it makes it's best power in the low to mid rpm range.It's also the best looking bike of the 3 IMO.
The r6 would’ve beat it if he actually revved it to 8-11k rpm’s then dumped the clutch but he didn’t cause he dumb
@@kingnugward1623 yeah it it's like .5 sec faster real world right?
3 days and 700km with the RS 660, second bike after mt 07 - amazing looks, it has 2 sweet RPM spots - 5k - 8.5k, easily maneuvrable at around 3k-4k RPM, the quickshifter is great, the cruise control allows you to go kilometers by just balancing your body using no hands on the handle which is cool, if you're the type of rider that doesnt wait for the traffic you just edit the Individual Mode (next to Commute and Dynamic) for you bike and leave it that way, then there's the race tab with lap timer, it has a wider 180 wheel which means more lean, stability is great, bike feels planted, 3 headlight modes (LED runing lights, meeting/short light, full beam).
Since it's new, I didn't force it above 220 km/h, which it reached pretty easily. 0-150kmh is few taps of the quickshifter, you won't even notice the difference between high RPM bikes, it makes up on it before they get to 12k RPM, and it's much better for overtaking on commuting roads at 4k rpm.
I did sit on CBR600RR, which had a nice feeling to it aswell but it was less maneuvrable, and on a 650 Ninja, which felt like a naked bike based on your position, has a very cut tank, not comfortable for long time speeds.
tl:dr - RS660 is great
RS660 would be great if they sorted the shithouse handlebars and actually gave it some balls
@@nomoreluke ...currently at 6500km, the balls are supposed to be yours, not the bikes. It goes 240 top, by that speed is as fast as any R6 before stopping their production, you probably havent ridden one, yet RS is more comfortable, modern and road oriented
@@razvanzav9341 That's kinda the point... I will never ever purchase a motorcycle that doesn't scare me. This thing didn't. At all. I couldn't give the slightest shit about a top speed... How often are you using the top speed on (as you call it) "a road-orientated bike"? A 10-year-old R6 would absolutely eat this for breakfast on road or track but that's not the point - I understand that they are not comparable motorcycles but... It's how you get there (acceleration, handling, etc.) that counts and, having test ridden the RS660 for 3.5 hours, it wasn't anywhere near as exciting as I was hoping. I've always desperately wanted an RSV4 and, while I obviously realise it's not going to be THAT, I was expecting it to be a lot more of an exciting ride. I have a Street Triple 765 RS that is a shitload more exciting than that RS660, plus cheaper and more comfortable. And a K6 GSX-R1000 but I won't start comparing that because, in my opinion, that's one of the best road-going superbikes ever made. The absolute dealbreaker for me with that RS600 is the handlebar setup. It's AWFUL. I literally have no idea why they came up with that solution! What are your opinions on that? Wouldn't you prefer a standard clip-on system. It's not like you can't get raised clip-ons... I don't get it.
I honestly listed it for sale at some point and started looking for a 2012 gsxr750, than I had such a sweet ride on the RS660, I decided keeping it for one more season. I havent ridden any R6 but one, around town, for like 10 mins, quick swap of bikes, so I didnt feel its power but strong throttles here and there. I'm 1.83, the handlebars are fine, or perhaps I dont know what better means yet. Drove it over 600km in a day, It feels a lot like holding urself into ur triceps when not crouched under the windshield, but I dont mind, as a gym veteran, I actually find it like a little wokout that I enjoy. I like the fact that it is really responsive at any rpm and it just goes when u gas it. I do a 35km road back and forth on a daily almost, sort of a circuit looking setup, fastest I did it was 15 min, but I can pick a minute or two faster now, around 140kmh average, which is what the romanian pros pull on the circuit. The point is, I feel the bike can be as fast as any high rpm crotch rocket on twisties, unless you are comparing top speed, which it lacks.
0-160 around 0.5 less than a r6, do you really feel that the difference goes in favor of the Yamaha, for a street daily bike?
@@razvanzav9341 I'm genuinely glad you love it mate and that's the important thing. I guess I just didn't fall in love with it (and I was REALLY expecting to). My issue with the handlebars is that, as far as I can tell, they look pretty un-adjustable. Am I wrong? You can always make fiddly little changes to regular clip-ons but these things look pretty set in stone and are more of a "touring" position, which I don't love on a bike like that. Anyway dude, I'm glad you love it - it'd be pretty boring if everyone loved the same motorcycles. I've got a Hypermotard SP on order for July and I can't wait. I usually hate Ducatis but that model ticks everything I want in a bike: 1) Utterly impractical 2) Fun fun fun and 3) Utterly terrifying. Haha. If you've never swung your leg over one and you have a Ducati dealership nearby, I strongly suggest to wait for a sunny day and give one a blast. I went in with the intention to order the Panigale V2 but 5 mins on that Hypermotard and I was grinning like an idiot. It's almost impossible to keep the front wheel on the floor!! Haha. It's kinda a really weird cross between a Supermoto and a Superbike. It's not something that I EVER imagined would work but fuck me it's a laugh!!! Haha.
i agree, the ninja 650r is the most practical bike with lots of low end (useable) power. thats what i hated about my R1 and zx12 i used to own, is i had to rev it way up before any power came on, i rode in the city a lot and hardly ever got into the power band, and when i did the cops could hear me coming. the 650 is also great on longer rides, very comfortable and i can get 50mpg on highway with cheaper regular octane gas.
Recently found this channel and I love it! Very informative!
This is EXACTLY the video I’ve been looking for. Thank you!!
You know a lot of people missed the point of the video when the top response is "That's not the point"
We had a Ninja 650 and had great holidays on it.. I think it's a beginner bike that can be enough for a lot of people as a forever bike.. although I'd love a RS660
Have the 650 and have had it for 6 years now. Came from a gsxr 600 and tlr 1000. Love the 650. Went 2 years ago to "upgrade", tried a gsx750 (which was the best I tried) a r6 and fz1000/1, and ninja 1000 and a few others. End of day, made me appreciate the 650 even more. 23,000 miles in and still happy.
@@NikkThompson this is great to read. I am picking up my 650 tomorrow as my first big bike. It's gonna be my new commuter. Switching from a 125 scooter.
@@kenwoolf I’ve had my ninja 650 for 9 years just traded for a new 2020 650, it’s a great bike, has all the power you need.
@@kenwoolf i also recently did the same. Upgraded from an 08 ninja 250 to the 2021 ninja 650. Still breaking in the engine, but i can just feel she wants to go fast and can. I don't think i will ever need to upgrade from it.
@@jedioutcast888 I am currently doing my licence on it and I really fell in love with this bike. I think it was a great choice. It handles really well once you get used to it.
I have the 21’ 650 and I love riding it will keep it and give it to my son when he’s 16
Some nice bikes, Im glad I went with the yamaha MT09 for my first bike getting back into motorcycles after years. Its comfortable and has more than enough power and get up to go so far.
I know you guys had the CB650, but you should check out and include the refreshed CBR650R sport bike! I have the 2018 older model (CBR 650F technically) and love it as my second bike!
The R6's time from 40-80 mph is not really comparable, when you did it in 6th gear
It was in 4th gear just like the other 2 bikes. The gear indicator is at the bottom right of the tach. If they'd been in 6th for that, we'd still be waiting for that R6 to hit 80 lol
@@mogthemoogle_160 Your are right sir, my mistake 😄😄
@Unai_79 It was specifically a fourth gear roll on test to show the differences in torque between the bikes. It was in 4th gear just like the other bikes, which is precisely the gear that it should have been in.
@Unai_79 It's not an acceleration test, it's a roll-on test. The whole point of a roll-on test is to show how much torque an engine produces in the midrange. The R6 is notoriously gutless in the midrange, and that's partly why they did this test; to show how the other bikes have more midrange grunt than the R6. Of course if they started the bikes from a stop and allowed the R6 to immediately wind up to 12k RPM, it'll accelerate faster than the other bikes, but for real world riding, that kind of test is completely irrelevant.
Best video format ever keep this going!!!
The R6 was my first bike. I wish I had got an SV650. It took many months to become bored of it and my back muscles to acclamate to the bike. But........those times when I could ring it's next and bang 166mph down a straight in the CA desert, that was indescibable how awesome it was.
I own an r6 and for some reason it's true that the zh2 is more friendly and easy to ride. Let me explain, in the zh2 you can 0-60 and call it a day more applicable on the streets, in the r6 you need to be at least 60mph and you're in the space X program and the moment you look at the dash you'll be around 80-100mph.
I went for the Kawasaki 650 I almost sold it but kept it no regrets.
Yeh, they are really trying to sell the Aprilia, but they don't mention parts and the cost of maintenance.
I think constantly labelling it as a beginner bike is a bit obtuse. It's a perfect training bike for what we call direct entry in the UK (unrestricted license), but any rider can enjoy it. That engine has a long pedigree and the chassis (especially since they sent it to the gym) is now very good indeed. Also, a ~3s 0-60 is fast enough for anyone.
Amazing video!!! Always looking forward to your new content. Can we get a review of the Triumph Street Triple R??
oh i love the humor of this channel!
I've got an '18 Ninja 650. I absolutely love it. Honestly, I'll probably never get ride of it.
you are right, they are keepers, i have had LOTS of bigger faster bikes but none of them were keepers like the 650R.
Why should you get rid of it-it did the fastest 0 to 60 mph of the 3-all that crazy topend speed will just get you killed or ticketed and jailed and the insurance companies will drop you too.
I got old R6 as my first bike for about a 2 years. I wanted super sport without any compromise, tried GSXR, Ninja, but R6 oh man... This is it, not gonna change my Yamaha R6 for anything, maybe for R1 :)
Heavy agree.
My r6 was a dream bike.
True supersport. Missile on two wheels. An old carb fed missile that demands respect.
How did I miss this one? I love the group ride stuff with a old school gopro setup super nice.
Watching the video and damn you guys made me have a second thought of the Yamaha R6 and switch to Aprilia RS 66O.... But loving the videos.💪🏼
I would like to see a ZX6 vs R6 vs CBR600rr vs GSX R600...Yam you know what to do
Been done to death. ZX6R is the winner
Zx6r. Unless you include the gsxr 750, which is identical to the gsxr 600 besides displacement. Gsxr is a little quicker but the zx6r has amazing brakes. I have an r6.
Literally just look it up. It’s been done so many times... ZX-6R wins. It’s not new information
Same thought, zx6r should be on the list not N650 :)
So in the "real world" the cheapest, simplest, lowest power bike was the quickest.
This was the yammie I missed. Amazingo!
Very informative video!! Thanks for dumbing it down for the beginners 😊
23:06 - The scream was more than the actual rev Windy 😂😂
Was he intentionally lugging the R6 from 4k rpm to do a 40-80 pull? That’s very misleading. I’m not that surprised that the r6 hit 0-60 in 4 seconds because the launch plays a factor, but I am pretty impressed with the Ninja 650’s 0-60. I did not think they were that quick off the line.
Yeh and if he had taken two cogs on the r6, the camera would have pointed skywards and the time 60-80 reduced. But then the roll on is a better real world test.
Every bike above 40 hp is fast 0 - 100 higher hp is only useful for roll ons
I have actually seen the ninja do it in less than 3 in another video. All those 0-60s were a bit disappointing. I can definitely say, my 2021 650 is faster than this video made it appear.
The ninja650 rules off the line because it makes it's best power in the low to mid range where as a bike like the ZX-6R picks up in the high range.
Damn the quality just keeps on improving
Beautiful Review Brother.Keep it up 👍🏼
Aprilia 660 is BEAUTIFUL!
Best intro ever - It's about time.
I just bought my first bike two weeks ago, 2016 Yamaha R6 & I love it 🥵
When I was growing up in the 80’s, a guy in my neighborhood got a Ninja 600. He immediately became the hood’s hero and I wanted one so bad. I have a Softail but would get the Ninja as a 2nd bike because I would love to have one. Not because it’s the greatest 650.
You know it's going to be a good day when Yammie Noob uploads.
So everyday is good ?
@@shashankmongrel my mind was like, it is impossible to be positive every day.
It's a shame you didn't have the CBR650R with you. 4 cylinders with the seating position between the RS 660 / Ninja 650 and almost as much horsepower as the RS. No riding modes, just traction control and a divine sound ;-) I would see the bike between the RS and the R6 and I'll buy that CBR650R too :-)) But still a nice test that confirmed my opinion! Thank you friends ;-) Greetings from Germany
Love the look and the color of that Aprilia .
Now this makes since. Great trio.
I think the one thing that is rarely touched on enough is the engine types and how they make their power.. parallel twin 650 is going to be different than a v-twin or an inline 4 that also had 650cc. But i guess thats more of an advanced conversation bcus you have to bring in things like compression, bore & stroke, cam timing, gearing and also tuning to get the big picture
It’s also personal choice when it comes to that sort of thing… I know they are more difficult to ride (at least on the road) but I MUCH prefer a motorcycle with a more pronounced “power band”. It probably comes from a childhood of riding 2-stroke motocross bikes but I “personally” HATE bikes with loads of torque down low. If a motorcycle allows you to be “lazy”, then invariably you will be. I’d rather sling my leg over a bike that makes you work for it, with ALL the power over 8k but aaaaaall in one digraceful, smile-inducing lump. I don’t want to be able to pull away in 4th thanks.
Got an 2017 R6 as my first bike! And I love it!🤔👌🏾
It's a great platform for the 600s. Real 600s. Not I2 engines like the other two. Even though it is the slowest 600 it is the most agile. And I had no complaints in comfort like this video proclaiming. I'm cramped on a 636 ninja.
@@EjinRenos I don't know about that slow shit 😂 but yeah 👌🏾
I like this video now they explained it all so well🤟🏾🤙🏾
As a Harley guy that might want a sport bike, this broke it down great!
Everyone: “I wanna go fast”
Me: “i wanna look badass”
When I decided I was going to buy my first motorcycle about 2 years ago, I knew I wanted to get a fully faired sport bike. As I began to look at my options I quickly learned that my choices were either a 600 class supersport beast or something a lot less powerful in the 300 cc to 650 cc range. I eventually decided on a Ninja 400 which I loved and rode for 2 years and over 18,000 miles. I recently upgraded to a Ninja ZX-6R. I always wondered why none of the big 4 motorcycle manufacturers had produced a bike that combined the best of both worlds. A comfortable, fully faired sport bike ( like the Ninja 400 or 650 ) with the power of a supersport. Looks like Aprilia has done just that with the RS 660.
Umm...Honda has had a bike to fit that role for years
@@diamondheat9 which one
the RS 660 is a middleweight, the zx6r is a race bike with a little more mid end power, and more comfortable ergos. Not the same thing. The zx6r is definitely in class with the r6 gsxr cbr600 etc. Being slightly more comfortable, doesn't make it more tame like you said. I don't think those things make the zx6r any easier to ride, but definitely more bearable.
This video felt so simple yet strangely so high effort. Very balanced... just like the RS.
Absolutely great review there lads and lass!👍🏻My money would be on the new RS660 as being a good all rounder and I can guess that would include the track (RS660 Factory in the pipeline?) The kawasaki would be better off in a head to head with honda's similar 2 pot model. A track test comparison between the Aprilia and Yamaha could show how damned good that little RS660 really is and I would not be surprised if it at the very least equalled the R6 (Factory in the pipeline version though).
"I feel like a gargoyle. "
That made me laugh 🤣
aprilia is such an underrated and underaprechiated brand. they make some of the best bikes
yes, but if they cannot make them reliable people will not buy them. R6 and other Japanese sport bikes will still sell more just because you don't have to worry about your engine possibly knocking after just a few thousand miles.
You need to see the FortNine video about quality to understand why no one likes it. (Italian quality is bad).
It's not really underrated, everyone is in awe when they see an RSV4 for example, it's more that they aren't practical for most customers. The RS660 is the most practical and economical bike they've made, and even then, if you want a dependable all around commuter bike are you really going to choose Italian over Japanese?
As current owner of Aprilia, and Triumph. I can confirm that build quality of aprilia is no match to Big Four (I've owned Suzukis and Yamaha), or even Triumph.
@@Jon-nz3dm you cant get r6 for the street anymore lmao
This is the review everyone needs
I have a 2020 GSX-R 1000 and it impresses me every single time I twist the throttle. Today's liter bikes are scary fast. I really wish to ride a 600cc to feel the difference as I never rode one.
Dang. That Ninja 650 still has paper plates but you can see it has aftermarket exhaust already.
Wish I could get the rs660 with Honda reliability / serviceability , too many horror stories for me to consider it seriously. I’d like to have my bike in the garage ready instead of the dealerships
I’m green with bikes and this particular category is where I’d like to cut my teeth. Can you enlighten an absolute newbie as to what kind of issues plague the Aprilia? I was really interested in them but if I can avoid inadvertently biting into a shit sandwich I’d be deeply appreciative.
@@blackonefifty just look up RS660 problems. You’ll see engines exploding, crank cases cracking, multiple issues including oil pan leaks, Water pump leaks, gas tank leaks.
im getting my rs660 next week..greetings from italy,cool video
Love that intro.
-Update: this has been the best in-depth motorcycle comparison I think I’ve seen so far. Whitney is the best! 😂
Me who’s waiting for the r7 to come out because the r6 is too expensive😢
Yeah. I want that alongside my Ninja 400. Bet the R7 will be superior to the R6 too because people want something comfortable these days with a little punch. Those speed bros got those 05- 09 sport bikes nobody wants anymore
It would be wierd to call a street bike superior to a race bike. Made for different tasks. R7 won't be superior on track
@@sambeezy007 nah, yamaha it will just put some fairings and some "fake" clip-ons on a mt-07 and call it a day.
@@amac_ very possible. We'll just have to see.
@@amac_ so I'm pretty sure that is what everyone who wants the r7 actually wants. Right? Mt 07 is a great bike throw plastics and a tiny bit more aggressive riding position on it and it would be perfect in some people's opinion.
We need an R-9 with the triple cylinder engine...it would be a sick bike
Absolutely
Love you vids man
Having now owned all three, I am now on the RS 660. Your assessment is spot on. I went from the Ninja to an R6 and settled on RS.
Still waiting for you guys to rent a Vmax!!
I think her opinion on the Z-H2 means that sometimes, the safest bike for you is the one you are very comfortable to ride with.
Definitely. Power doesn't do nearly as much to the mindset while riding as being comfortable. The MT10 has a lot more balls than an R6, but sitting upright on it made me feel much more confident than being hunched over. I'd happily take an upright bike with 500hp than a supersport where I feel contorted just to sit on it (or more like "in" it)
I think it's just more to do with usable power at sane speeds. Ninja 650 is making a ton of power at 45mph, but none at 100. R6 is making a ton of power at 100, but at 45 it's anemic, something like a R1 or zh2 makes tons of power everywhere.
Awesome comparison. So few people realize how super aggressive the R6 is and think it’s a good street bike. Hope they watch this!👍🏻👍🏻
I really enjoyed this, thanks so much
FAST 👍🏾💯
Wouldn't the 40-80 test on the r6 have been more accurate if you dropped a gear? I could be wrong but just wondering.
Yea yammie cred is kinda dropping. A r6 can easily do 0 to 60 in 3 seconds. An r6 is way faster than what was shown today
@@venomulimited 100% agree, do you think yammie was just trying to lead more riders to the 650s? Bc as a track rider there is no way he doesnt know how to ride that r6 to its fullest.
That's what i thought too. He starts the 40 run in like 3k rpm. He drove it like a 2 cylinder.
Andrew did not include the right clips for the 40-80 pull. The point was to show each bikes low RPM pull capability in 4th gear, it was to demonstrate how the R6 is gutless
@@yammienoob But why not also include that it is only gutless if you dont know how to ride to correctly?
Amazing video guys, good job