Gündogan is probably the most successful German to ever play in England but the effect Özil had on that declining Arsenal side when he arrived is just unmatched by any German who played in England.
@@Ethics.committee well it depends on how you look at it, most of the turks playing in Germany or any other European nation is born and raised there, and usually have a german passport and speak better german than turkish, as well as having a more german centered mind. I dont blame Them for being germans over turks when it comes to football as that usually leads to more succes
@@Ethics.committee They were both born and raised in Germany, they have a German passport and lived their most of their life in Germany. I think that counts as German.
All those players are really nice and decent, but Bert Trautman had to face level of hate that is not nearly comparable. Imagine being called nazi spy every week and league is not defending you. Man came in the worst possible time and made people cry when he left. Legend.
@@AtLeastNichtDu I just read up and it's true 100%. Bert Trautman genuinely did break his neck in the 1956 FA cup final in a 3-1 win for Man City V Birmingham City. He had a knee to the head and played the last 17 mins with a broken neck. He had no idea, then went to the doctor's complaining of a sore neck a few days later, only to be told it was broken.
@@HundredSlot well the thing is mostly a player gets the spotlight for some time, for example Gündoğan in quarantine era when he scored many goals, but then even they continue to perform in the same level they just drop out of the spotlight and everybody's attention turns into someone else, in our example Haaland this season. So even though Gündoğan performs almost same as 2020 he doesn't get the same attention he used to hence making him underrated (sorry for my English)
Not Premier League, but just re-read the story of Bert Trautman in the 1956 FA Cup final. A German POW that stayed in England after being spotted for his GK skills. He met a girl, settled down and played for Man City. He played in goal for the 1956 FA Cup final against Birmingham City, winning 3-1. With 17 mins to go, he received a knee to the face, causing his neck to go limp. In the days of no subs, he played til the end, winning and celebrating. A few days later, he goes to the doctor with a "sore neck", only to be told he'd broken his neck during the collision. 💥 They were a a different breed back then ❤⚽.
Klinsmann....Footballer of the Year in a mid class team. He immidiately mad an outrageous impact there....and Ballack was a World class Elite Box to Box midfielder.
Funny how this seems to only apply to Europe isn't it? If a Nigerian was born in China and claimed he was Chinese, everyone would laugh at how ridiculous it is. In fact, if you were born to Chinese parents in Nigeria, government policy would even deny you a Nigerian passport. Ozil and Gundogan would even tell you their alligences lie with Turkey over Germany. Why? Because they are Turkish
Ozil might be the best in terms of straight up talent, but greatest means you need consistency and longevity, two things that Ozil didn't have unfortunately. Ozil in the last couple years at Arsenal was far worse than any Gundogan season at Man City. For me Klinsmann deserves to be 2nd behind Gundogan - he carried that Tottenham side hard, elite player
As a city fan I agree too... He's aging like fine wine.... The older the better..... He literally turns to Ilkay Nazario at the end of seasons... I think he is easily the best German player in the PL history followed by Ozil
Still wouldn’t be that good because who would score the goals or defend the goal they can’t also they played in two different era when Ozil was good Gundo was bad when Gundo was good Ozil was bad
Ozil is miles clear , if titles and statistics are just what matter , why are we paying to watch the games ? For me ozil is for sure the best n10 of his generation if messi is a n9.5
Am a Ballack fan but this go to Gundo!! I think he is very underrated and deserve individual awards. He was once City too scorer his goals carried them to winning important titles which deserve recognition
He’s not the best player the best player to play in the PL is easily Ozil then it’s Lehmann as at one point he was the best GK in the world then it’s Gundo but Gundo is the most decorated player in terms of English trophies
Born and raised in Germany, had their healthcare, school and other public services paid for by the German tax payer and they travel using a German passport. Now we have 4th and 5th generation of Germans with turkish descent it becomes kind of insulting to claim that they're turks (in the sense of citizenry not ethnically) while turkey doesn't owe them sh*t. I could say the same for French players with African descent.
@@losnino4515 Well there are many of those with German passports who plays for Turkish national team like Çalhanoğlu. I was just saying we should have got Özil and GÜndoğan as well.
@@tweetworse6736 so why does turkey not have players with their abilities in their team? Is it a coincidence that the probably the two best "turkish" players were trained and raised in germany? even Çalhanoğlu was born there.
Best German of all time in English football its Bert Trautmann. As a united fan hes the city legend witch I respect the most. Streets won't forget 1956 fa cup final where he broke his neck and continued playing 🐐
Immediately I thought gundo, ozil and ballack. I've seen them play and can understand first hand how influential they are. Trautmann, however, is a player I would love to have lived in the same era as
Gündogan is probably the most successful German to ever play in England but the effect Özil had on that declining Arsenal side when he arrived is just unmatched by any German who played in England.
Which both arent even real Germans and both were Turkish
Took them from 4th to 4th 🥶
@@Ethics.committee Yet both still the better than any other Germans in the prem
@@Ethics.committee well it depends on how you look at it, most of the turks playing in Germany or any other European nation is born and raised there, and usually have a german passport and speak better german than turkish, as well as having a more german centered mind.
I dont blame Them for being germans over turks when it comes to football as that usually leads to more succes
@@Ethics.committee They were both born and raised in Germany, they have a German passport and lived their most of their life in Germany. I think that counts as German.
Man's beard made him more German than he already was
Turkish^
@@Ben-jr3jihe's German not turkish
@@ReapFC And Sané is French
@@ReapFCwhat is that PFP dawg
@@ZTGAMEZare you not questioning Ben pfp?
All those players are really nice and decent, but Bert Trautman had to face level of hate that is not nearly comparable. Imagine being called nazi spy every week and league is not defending you. Man came in the worst possible time and made people cry when he left. Legend.
He also almost die on the pitch, he showed level of dedication that is unthinkable for many people
Interesting fact he was manager of Pakistan football team
I will make a video about him!
Broke his neck, kept playing says it all
Who did he play for ?
The German Man city keeper once dived for the ball breaking his neck in the process and continued to play until the end of the game
Wasn't it in a cup final as well?
@@n8nate it was the fa cup final
Fake news
@@AtLeastNichtDu please explain?
@@AtLeastNichtDu I just read up and it's true 100%. Bert Trautman genuinely did break his neck in the 1956 FA cup final in a 3-1 win for Man City V Birmingham City. He had a knee to the head and played the last 17 mins with a broken neck. He had no idea, then went to the doctor's complaining of a sore neck a few days later, only to be told it was broken.
Bert Trautmann is the most influential off the field for improving relations between England and Germany
Fun Fact
Bert Trautmann was only Playing in England because he was a Prisoner of War and thought it was nice to stay there
W, definitely agree. Gundogan is one of my favourite players and is very underrated. He’s currently in amazing form
Ah yes. Another "underrated" comment. Who's next? Messi? Ronaldo?
@@HundredSlot Gundo is really underrated.
@@HundredSlot well the thing is mostly a player gets the spotlight for some time, for example Gündoğan in quarantine era when he scored many goals, but then even they continue to perform in the same level they just drop out of the spotlight and everybody's attention turns into someone else, in our example Haaland this season. So even though Gündoğan performs almost same as 2020 he doesn't get the same attention he used to hence making him underrated (sorry for my English)
@@acoknitteruntemha I agree, well explained! Btw ur English is great
@@HundredSlot Messi is underrated
Shoutout to Antonio Rudiger as well. He was solid for Chelsea at the back, and was one of the best defenders in the PL.
*Rüdiger
But yes, you're right
He only plays for germany, he is really from africa
@@echo5935 he's born in Germany
For one season tho, seasons Tuchel before he was average at best
@@echo5935 I think He himself should decide where he's from not you
Not Premier League, but just re-read the story of Bert Trautman in the 1956 FA Cup final. A German POW that stayed in England after being spotted for his GK skills. He met a girl, settled down and played for Man City. He played in goal for the 1956 FA Cup final against Birmingham City, winning 3-1. With 17 mins to go, he received a knee to the face, causing his neck to go limp. In the days of no subs, he played til the end, winning and celebrating. A few days later, he goes to the doctor with a "sore neck", only to be told he'd broken his neck during the collision. 💥
They were a a different breed back then ❤⚽.
There will always be a place for Germans in the prem ❤🇩🇪
Nah, they average af. Not exciting at all
@@Coldvader Average brexit child:
@@d15t0rted4 couldnt't be more wrong
Dutch in the PL > Germans in the PL
@@flop1272 he’s German that’s why 💀
Ballack was a superhuman figure for us, who were young enough to follow the leagues closely.
André Schürrle absolutely legend. The streets won’t forget
Ozil was just magnificent
True
For like just 2 seasons 😂
@@user-qm7sr4hc3bgundo wishes he had Ozil's talent tho. He never reached or will reach that level
Would love this to be a series. Maybe do Brazillians in La Liga or smth like that next.
Vinicius Jr
@@risannd NO, Marcelo, Roberto Carlos,Neymar,Casemiro, etc
@@shortsdefutebol2935 where's Dinho, Romario, R9, Rivaldo, Dani Alves...
@@bjjbogeyman Yes,all more important than vini
@@risannd Bro thinks vini was better than r9, rivaldo, romario, ronaldinho, dani alves, marcelo, roberto carlos, casemiro, neymar, kaka etc.
Mesut Özil was just different.
For 2 season lmao
Per Mertesacker would also be a good shout for Top 5
He was shit 😂 why do you think Arsenal were 8th so long?!
Ye maybe change Mertesacker for Robert huth
Ye maybe change Mertesacker for Robert huth
Ye maybe change Mertesacker for Robert huth
Mesut is not only the greatest German to play in the prem he’s one of the prems best ever playmakers ❤️❤️
Yeah but he's Turkish...
@@spipprippi1810 played for the German National team 😂😂😂
@@jackwilkes3534 i know, just look at Retegui playing for Italy, he's not italian ffs
@@spipprippi1810 so. He plays for the nations team that’s his nationality. Im Greek but I’m classed as British. What’s your point ?
One of the most criminally underrated Midfielders in world football and I’m a Liverpool fan
Dietmar Hamann was nice too tho
The thing is… they’re both turkish😅
Ozil was a different breed bro 🔥❤
only at Real Madrid
I mean he is as he was Turkish
@@NorcalValleyRailfan only at madrid?????
@@valentino_cp6993 When he was at Arsenal, he took them from 4th to 4th💀
Ilkay has more pl than the club ozil played for 💀
gundogan very very very underrated
If you described ozil to me i wouldn't of believed you
Klinsmann....Footballer of the Year in a mid class team. He immidiately mad an outrageous impact there....and Ballack was a World class Elite Box to Box midfielder.
Pascal groß has got to be up there, very underrated player
Its interesting that the 2 best Germans ever in the premier league (according to fiago) are actually of Turkish descent.
Yup
Thats true
They are fake Turks.
So not real germans also buslims
@@ebongedes If by real Germans, you mean the Germanic natives, yes.
Gundogan is good for city, but for Germany, we don’t talk about that…
Has to be Bert, dude won a FA cup with a broken neck
Ballack stil have place in my heart
You forgot a recent world class player in the PL: Max Meyer
Who?
who tf
😂😂
TF is that?!
What about Skhodran Mustafi
Finally,people notice Bert trautmann
I like ur pfp 🇷🇸🇷🇸🦅🦅🦅
Gundogan is such an amazing player since ever. Glad to see he's getting the recognition he deserves!
The one and only Thomas Hitzlsperger!
Another W for him
both Mesut and İlkay are actually Turkish. They were born in Germany and they are German but their familys are Turkish
You said it, they are German.
@@Fiago I know it I am not trying to fight over them just wanted to inform people
But received training in germany not turkey
Funny how this seems to only apply to Europe isn't it?
If a Nigerian was born in China and claimed he was Chinese, everyone would laugh at how ridiculous it is.
In fact, if you were born to Chinese parents in Nigeria, government policy would even deny you a Nigerian passport.
Ozil and Gundogan would even tell you their alligences lie with Turkey over Germany. Why? Because they are Turkish
@@danw5525but they got German training which made them relevant. If they stayed at turkey, nobody would even know about their existence.
Never forget ballack. He was my favorite player
There is a special magic in "German player + Turkish ancestor + midfield position" formula. It just works.
Ozil might be the best in terms of straight up talent, but greatest means you need consistency and longevity, two things that Ozil didn't have unfortunately. Ozil in the last couple years at Arsenal was far worse than any Gundogan season at Man City. For me Klinsmann deserves to be 2nd behind Gundogan - he carried that Tottenham side hard, elite player
Tbf to Ozil he didn’t fit in Artetas system hence he played bad since Ozil was very slow paced and Arteta wasn’t
ballack was far superior talent than ozil, ozl only better in playmaking and vision departments apart from that was ballack
Timo werner 100% deserve a shout. Since he left Chelsea was not the same
Southampton Werner >>> any German player in history
The streets won't forget Schurrle tho.
As a city fan I agree too... He's aging like fine wine.... The older the better..... He literally turns to Ilkay Nazario at the end of seasons... I think he is easily the best German player in the PL history followed by Ozil
Love the passion and enthusiasm you put on your content. You deliver. Saludos desde 🇲🇽.
Thanks bro! Greetings to Mexico :D
Gundo 100% ozil may have been better but injuries and the club he joined just couldn’t get him the success, while gundo is become a Prem great
Not his fault Arsenal couldn’t get him success it’s the boards fault and Ozil still got a decent amount of trophies from us
Bert didn't even use gloves as a GK ...what a legend
If we're talking all of English football, it has to be Trautmann, but Gündoğan is absolute class in the Prem.
Both Of The Top Two Is Just Turkish Players Born In Germany
Turkish players with german training.
The interesting thing is that the top two are actually Turkish but born in Germany.
As a Turkish didnt expect u to spell ilkay that good👏
Gundogan left the group.
Deutschland ❤
Imagine what the turkey national team would have looked like if both of these chose to play for turkey instead of Germany
Stop imigrating then.
Still wouldn’t be that good because who would score the goals or defend the goal they can’t also they played in two different era when Ozil was good Gundo was bad when Gundo was good Ozil was bad
Seeing this after Gündogan scored 2 Bangers in the FA-Cup Final. He is the man for the important goals. Very underrated player.
Bro got the Havertz beard
Ozil is miles clear , if titles and statistics are just what matter , why are we paying to watch the games ? For me ozil is for sure the best n10 of his generation if messi is a n9.5
Muller and Voller left the chat💀💀
They both never played in prem
Don't forget Bernd Leno. He's a great keeper for Arsenal and Fulham. As Leno is fighting for Germans top 1 keeper soon
The only right answer is Gundogan. One of the most underrated players
Gundogan 100%
Easily Gündogan. HES JUST TOO GOOD AND HAS BEEN SO LOYAL FOR US 🐐🐐🐐🥶. But yeah Gündogan is really important to us.
Obviously, Kai Harvetz. 😩🔥🔥🔥
Ozil GOAT
Remember, if Chelsea werent robbed, Ballack has a Champions league with Chelsea
Am a Ballack fan but this go to Gundo!! I think he is very underrated and deserve individual awards. He was once City too scorer his goals carried them to winning important titles which deserve recognition
Özil was so good, everyone expected him to jump ship to city or united as part of the 2010 arsenal memes. He was a fucking savant
I think it's ozil because he made everything he can for arsenal
Özil. Next question.
Gundo very silent guy but mischievous in opposition box
I started watching football with ozil and he is my favorite as well so for me he is the best
Gundogan is definitely the best German player to play in the PL no doubt.
Ozil
He’s not the best player the best player to play in the PL is easily Ozil then it’s Lehmann as at one point he was the best GK in the world then it’s Gundo but Gundo is the most decorated player in terms of English trophies
in my opinion mesot ozil is the goat of germans
Nah
If you mean Germans in general, he's not even top 5
@@katman9900 no I meant premier league
Definitely not Germans but the best German in the pl
@@mohammedharith9247 oh, I see
Trautmann is a legend
Gündogan is like Modrić proving age is just a number
Özil is turkish not german
Ozil then Gundogan. Ozil is always number one for me when it comes to Germans. 🐐
only cause you watched him play. Players like Kahn and Matthaus are easily better than Ozil. Ozil was a traitor.
The fact that they are Turkish but born in Germany makes me and mad and happy
Bro slept on united Bastian Schweinsteiger 💀
Congrats, you're the second person in this comment section to take his name. Bastian is better than all the players he's named except gundo.
sorry Ilkay Abi but Özil was better!
same
He was the best in his prime, but gundogan had more longevity and won more titles
Two Turkish players we couldn’t get for the national team.
They aren't completely turkish
They just have turkish origins
Born and raised in Germany, had their healthcare, school and other public services paid for by the German tax payer and they travel using a German passport. Now we have 4th and 5th generation of Germans with turkish descent it becomes kind of insulting to claim that they're turks (in the sense of citizenry not ethnically) while turkey doesn't owe them sh*t. I could say the same for French players with African descent.
@@tweetworse6736 They learned to play football in germany. Also what is turkish religion?
@@losnino4515 Well there are many of those with German passports who plays for Turkish national team like Çalhanoğlu. I was just saying we should have got Özil and GÜndoğan as well.
@@tweetworse6736 so why does turkey not have players with their abilities in their team? Is it a coincidence that the probably the two best "turkish" players were trained and raised in germany? even Çalhanoğlu was born there.
Nothing but facts💙💙💯
Man..this is sad to watch-
now as, he isn't there anymore..
Andre schrulle is quite an underrated one maybe...if hes around for some more time..surely hell be in one of the greats
Gundogan is so underrated
He has been great for city would be sad to see him leave hopefully they get an extension
In my opinion in Ozil and my favourite
Shkodran Mustafi😎🔥🔥
Good format, keep using this
Fiago is literally the calmest German ever
Ozïl was just incredible and i think he is amazing but gundogan is also pretty amazing
The signed shirt………..oof
Kia Havertz ❤🔥🔥🔥
Best German of all time in English football its Bert Trautmann. As a united fan hes the city legend witch I respect the most. Streets won't forget 1956 fa cup final where he broke his neck and continued playing 🐐
Gundo turns up in every big games❤❤
If goalie do counts gotta say the beast Oliver Kahn
Immediately I thought gundo, ozil and ballack. I've seen them play and can understand first hand how influential they are. Trautmann, however, is a player I would love to have lived in the same era as
A man named Franz Beckenbauer RIP 🕊️
Mesut and gundogan 🇹🇷💔
Bro, I literally thought of Beckenbauer😂
Ozil end of discussion
Gundogan is The real GOAT💪💙💙
Fiago as much as I love you and everything you say I have to dissagree, for me Ozil was just on another level. Love from sweden❤
As an individual player Mesut Ozil Left Boot> Gundogan's whole career