The Messed Up Origins of Athena | Mythology Explained - Jon Solo
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Basically all of Greek Mythology: Hera tries to kill Zeus’s child because he cheated on her.
Media Legion Which is caused because Zeus doesn’t know how to put his thing away
The first crazy girlfriend
Well she hated Zeus with good reason too. He tricked her into a marriage she didn't want, and he raped her. Not to mention he cheated on her over and over and over again.
Valery Tapia Plus they are siblings and husband and wife, remember?
RedRoseSeptember22 fromhis last video he said Cupid shot Zeus with the arrows and caused him to cheat 😭 (some he actually cheated)
“but because this is Greek mythology, the ground isn’t just the ground” 💀💀
@Monala Neutral and to top that, the ground he impregnated was supposed to be his grandmother lol
Just like
@@macandcheese__ so he got his dad mother pregnant x.x
@@romycurry854 💀
Mostly because of Gaia
So...Hephaestus accidentally had a kid with his great Grandma who was raised by his ex-crush whom he actually intended to have that kid with. Greek relations sure are messed up.
Shreyasi Mukherjee don’t forget it was his half-sister as well
@@lucasclark1669 thanks for the reminder. I totally forgot about that part!!!🤦♀️
BTW that ex-crush is also Hephaestus half sister, so that's fun
@Eliza ummm hera is zues sister so he tried to plow his cousin
@@fork-man zeus also raped hera to have her marry him
What the - birth out of forehead....
Sounds like a *headache.*
Migraine
It's where we got the term "brainchild".
@@Darkfur94 better word, but I can't wrap my head around it.
@@taitano12 must be.🤷🏽♀️
*WHEEEZE
Jon: ...she's what one might call a boss-*ss b***h (I think?)
Auto-captions: ...she's what one might call a Boston sponge
Mick Gorro lmao 🤣 that’s funny
Nobody:
Literally no one:
Not even Jerry:
Jon: BaBy jUicE
I legit cracked up at that XD
*Ba dum tsst*
😂😂😂
Your cute but no idea
@@georgevarughese4886 careful dude. I'm still in high school. The FBI's gonna be coming for you...
So the Greek gods were basically a whole season of Jerry Springer.
Lmaooooo
Haha
A whole season? They’re the whole damn show
Hahaha😂
Bruh that’s... hilarious.
Wait... so my decorative olive on my lunch is "a symbol of economic prosperity"?
Noice. It's rich
You'll be swimming in olive oil this fiscal year!
Well if the food is decoration then I'd say it's doing it job as a symbol of economic prosperity. Gonna assume Kunta in South Sudan would be eating that mfer.
jon made me feel guilty skipping through an ad *once*
never skipped an ad again.
Update if you edit your comment you lose the creator heart 😭
I did it this time again and u regretted it
Wait until your ads are Trump ads. I once had one that was HALF A FUCKING HOUR. It was more of an informercial. I clicked through that shit FAST.
Please do a messed up origins of Hephaestus
Hephaestus! Hephaestus! Hephaestus! Hephaestus! Hephaestus! Hephaestus!
Manophere. com Aw :(.
Manophere. com ? I said aw because I think guys can do more traditionally feminine things and girls can do traditionally masculine things. I don’t feel insecure over it at all because gender is made up by society. Why’d you have to be rude about it lol?
Athena has been my favorite god. She always seemed to be the most fair and level headed out of all the gods (assuming you go with the good versions of the Medusa and Arachni stories, which I do).
my name is Athena so ha (that kinda y I clicked on the vid)
What about Hestia? I don't think there are any myths about her doing awful things to people
@Monala Neutral ok.
I was actually presenting her as my arguement for most levelheaded god
Actually, the real version of the story doesnt include athena or Psiedon...she was a gorgon born ugly (also had siblings)...and arachne, like u said, has a good version. So, she is probably the best greek god in comparison to the other major gods. She and artemis are my favs
@UCTfQDN8KdGFtxQoopMJtT Actually in the original Greek myth, Medusa is born a gorgon and is instead seduced by Poseidon while Athena had no business with them.
jon: we have athena to thank for spiders
me: ATHENA, YOU SICK SON OF A BI-
I love spiders.
I have a pet Tarantula...
More like Minerva and not Athena, as the Arachne story first appears in Ovid's metamorphoses, which is Roman.
W..w...w....ha...t😭😭😭😭😭
Athena is responsible for Spider-Man.
Green Goblin & Venom: THAT BITCH!
Wow, I'm early! I recommend the SoloMerch.
Blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions once said, "Athena is the god of smart war, and Ares is the god of dumb war".
OSP is the besttt
Most (pretty much all) of my knowledge on Greek mythology comes from them.
Can you do the messed up origins of Artemis the goddess of hunt and moon
Brooklyn McCarthy I bet it will be good
@@tenkomari2391 yah
Brooklyn McCarthy
Best Ace Goddess.
I think he did already :o can't remember though.
I'm gonna name my future daughter Artemis
The picture when he is talking about Pallas is confirmation the Jon has read Percy Jackson.
That picture made me smile
i noticed too
it was a I know that moment
Or... he googled that photo.
What. No
That moment when you accidentally impregnate your great grandmother
I did it a year ago I’m a girl and luckily my parents excepted our child
@@officiallybloxy2739 Wha-
5:34 - I'd never heard this story before! I knew Athena was often called Pallas Athena, but I never knew this was why!
8:37 - I'm impressed that they created a character who was half human and half snake and didn't just automatically write him off as a monster!
10:25 - On the other hand, she gave us a creature that eats flies and thus helps keep the fly population down a little.
I've always liked Athena! Thank you for doing this, Jon!
Pallas is also the name of the God of Warcraft. Probably Athena’s own husband at some point before she was the “virgin” goddess. Sorry I don’t do virgins.
The Pallas origins has many versions.
I could be mistaken but isn't there a version of the Medusa story where Medusa is narciccstic and claims to be more beautiful than Athena in Athena's temple so Athena makes her ugly. I was so excited about this messed up origins video since I ♥️ Athena so thanks Jon solo
I think Jon already made
A video about Medusa's
Origin story about Medusa
It's quite sad Medusa was a victim
😔
@@barbie5623 thank you for being reminding me of that in a polite manner. I loved the video but that was just something that came to mind though I do feel bad for Medusa😭
There is but that version says it was Aphrodite instead of Athena
Or I could be wrong
The Greek myths come in a lot of different versions.
Princess Ula Angelos both versions are true. In fact I believe the least mainstream version would most likely be the origin and true
*“A match made in Olympus”HA I picked up what you put down there that was funny*
I am a simple person, when I see mythology explained, I click
As you should
Athena is my favorite goddess after checking out the goddess girls books its fictionalized Greek myths but still
Athena is my name i want to go to her palce
@Alex Fuentes ikr
@@athenac9751 - If you live in the U.S., you can start by going to the Parthenon in Nashville, TN.
Lmao im watching Olympus Guardians cause I was into Greek Myths
I forgot about the Goddess girl books until right now. They were my favorites as a kid
I was like mmmmm let me listen to this song
Jon Solo: uploads a video
Me:CLICK
Athena: Jane of all trades, master of none, yet often better than master of one. Sounds fucking awesome.
In one of the versions, hepheastus tried to aproached her, athena fought him off but some of his blacksmith soot fell on her thigh, which she removed with her hand that second. Then it fell on the ground, ericthonius was born, and athena became his foster mom. I like this version cuz athena remained a virgin, and she was kind to the boy too.
I've started to sit through the adds so that I don't feel bad after when he asks if I did. 😂
Athena has always been one of my favorites! I’m so pumped you finally had time to cover her. Hearing the other sides of the Medusa story and the spider one, they were definitely awesome.
Me when it says "1 minute ago"
😎
Not really sure what series you could work this into but I’d love to hear you cover the mythos behind Lilith. I think it’s super interesting and not generally known.
That'd be a cool myth to look into!
Basically, she refused to “assume the position”, missionary - and was reviled for it. Good on her. She’s more herself this way.
" Perched upon a bust of Pallas just above my chamber door. Perched, and sat, and nothing more."
Quoth Athena "nevermore"
I love what you did there with Poe's poem.
Thankies.
Almost feel bad for Hephaestus. Does he even get a moment of positivity?
In some myths he eventually marries Aglaea, one of the three Charites and they live happily together!
He married Agale and he had many lovers and children.
Hephaestus is a highly creative force. Through his wounds (ie: shame for being different due to perceived flaws, his volatility, inexpressible rage, etc.) through his vulnerability comes an infusion of great healing power and unbridled creativity.
I came straight here once I saw "Jon Solo" 😭😭🤣🤣🤣
same lol
I hope you cleaned up after yourself :P lol.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Huh?
@@RedRoseSeptember22 😂😂😂good one
I am so glad that you included the Greek versions of the Medusa and Arachne myths! I often refused, as a child growing up, that such a level-headed Goddess would let jealousy and pride over-ride her senses (though not uncommon, there really isn't any other proof than these isolated myths) and after some more research, I found the Greek versions and thought to myself 'That sounds like Athena.'
Athena's difference with Ares is that Athena's especiality is planning and tactics meanwhile Ares is more combat-wise. That means neither is as good when not partnered with each other.
Like I think Ares holds back or Zeus protects Athena cause as we know men are much stronger than women. So I think Ares could do some serious damage to Athena if they were on an even playing field
@@angelacooper8973
Except these aren't mere men and women, they are gods and their sex is much less relevant. Zeus doesn't need to protect Athene, she simply is stronger than most gods, male or female. Ares definitely doesn't hold back, he is just weak. Read Iliad book 21 and see for yourself.
@@omniavanitas7893 yeah. I still think she got plot armor
@@angelacooper8973 nah, tactics>brute force, that's how the Romans whipped out existence Sparta and the rest of Greek polis
Can you do a history of the goddess Nyx she is my favorite
Jon is at it again. he fills the solo cup with knowledge and spills it all over the audience with love
Ever since I was a kid and learned about Athena, I fell in love with her story. Been waiting a while for you to do a video on her background. And btw, loved the "I'll show myself out .." bit.
I loved this! I hope you also do my favourite soon, Artemis (if you haven't yet) 🥰
I always find it amusing how human most Greek dietys are
That's always been their appeal to me. They're admittedly flawed. I've been put off by the God of Abraham from an early age because he's obviously seriously flawed but still claimed to be perfect. Even without the claim of perfection by believers, he's a pretentious ahole in a lot of the stories in religious texts.
@@loki2240 Just do what I do and only believe in the forgiving God.
@@mikethehunter5212 - I can't choose to believe in "the forgiving God" or any other deity. I'm either convinced that they exist and that I should worship them, or I'm not convinced. And at this point, I'm not convinced.
There's no valid basis for concluding that any deities exist. We have no valid evidence that any nonhuman has even claimed to be a deity. And why worship any being? What decent being would want to be worshipped?
@@loki2240 Truth is always stranger than fiction. All I can say. Faith is what motivates us. Why be a decent person if death is the true end?
@@mikethehunter5212 - Faith doesn't motivate me. And it appears that the faith you're speaking of could be used to believe in anything (including things that contradict each other). How is that a valid guide for behavior?
Why be a decent person if death is the end? Because I don't want to mistreat people, I don't want to cause undue harm to others, I want to be proud of the life I've lived, I want to be a good role model for my kids, I want to be liked by other people and enjoy my time with them, I don't want to go to prison, I'm not a sociopath, etc. Was that a sincere question, or were you just being intellectually lazy?
0:53 the title to this work of art is:
_Damn woman! Get outta my head!_
underrated comment.
OMG is that an another God Of War references?
WHAT THE
I think my favorite Athena story was the one where her stalker assaults her, ends up getting his own grandmother pregnant, only for Athena to raise that baby.... wtf Greece?
I heard a similar story where Athena gets angry at a mortal man and tricks his daughter into sleeping with him (idk how the man didn't realise it wasn't his wife, it may have been the darkness lol). When she gives birth he is horrified to find the child is his son and grandson. So he casts her out and she gives birth but rejects the child, and Athena watching over decides to take the child in.
Yep. It was Hephaestus. I actually just watched the episode of Great Greek Myths about Athena and it was revealed that Hephaestus had been tricked by Poseidon, thinking that Athena was coming to, you know, do the do. He got too eager and ripped her tunic, showing her in all her glory, and that's when he accidentally came on her thigh.
I jumped out the shower with soap still on my legs for this
That's dedication
Jon: "Instead, when they wanted to build a website they went to-"
Me: Arachne!
Zeus has a headache, had one of the other Gods (Ares if I remember right) crack his head open with an axe and put popped Athena, full grown and full adorned in her battle-armour God-outfit ... or that’s the way I was taught it when we did Greek stuff in school. And all I can think remembering that is *”Ouch!”* 😂😂😂
Vulcan. Sorry I can’t spell his Greek name
i really love that you do these greek mythology videos because im learning it in school and this is how i study. thanks jon ! :)
Yay I ordered the merch it looks soooo cool not to mention the attention to detail!!!
Satisfactions Channel wait, it’s lit AND fresh?!
Finalllllllly got a notification from him🤦🏽♀️💃
Thank you for the alternate stories of Athena. She’s my favorite goddess and those stories always bothered me.
This was very interesting and informative. Thanks for this video, Jon. Btw your dog is so CUTE!
Athena is my most favorite goddess of all time! Thanks for the video.
Love that. Context is key. Ppl should think bout that in everyday life more.
Yes!!! I love these videos!!! The effort you put into them is so clear and amazing!!
I have been waiting so long for this video!! Your videos are always something to look forward to!
The story I read about Metis had nothing to do with him eating her- it was rape/murder
He chased her around the earth trying to rape her. Since they both could shape shift Zeus had a hard time tracking her down but determined to defile a woman be persisted and knocked her out and raped her.[head injury] Later he got a vision/fortune that the child Metis bore would over throw him, so he caught Metis again and killed when she was pregnant by knocking her out [head injury] then killing her.
That when he got the headache,
and gave birth to wisdom. Man gives birth to wisdom after killing the woman he raped and the resulting child. Historical this kind of made scenes, some cultures would kill the young males of the cultures the concurred because they knew when they grew up they be warrior seeking revenge. but its fucked up all the same
Uhm I think you're confusing Metis with Demeter
OMG! Athena is finally here! Amazing job as always Jon. Thank you for making this video you just made my day.
Just wanted to say you're awesome dude. I've spent the last week binge watching your videos. Keep it up 👍
You literally have one of the best channels! I absolutely love your content about every origin story.
I love this channel. Messed up origins is one of my favs 😝
Yay another Greek Orgin videoooo!
i love your video style and jokes, gonna keep binge watching so keep up the great work!
I love your videos. Great work. :) I'm a Mythology fanatic and you definitely do the stories justice.
Video: *25 minutes ago*
Me: Holy Gods! I’m early!
I'm happy I found this video! Athena had been one of my favorite Gods since I was a kid, and watching the Campione! anime a few years back made me more curious about her pre-Zeus origins. That show had her being this goddess outside of Zeus's domain that he devoured out of fear for her power. The Metis angle makes it quite interesting.
Jon, I admire your work for researching, and entertainment sharing the information. Thank you
I love that you used the D'aulaires' image. That was my first book of Greek Myths and a childhood favorite!
Jon: “thats right we have Athena to thank for spiders”
Me, an ARACHNOPHOBIC: *shakes in fury🤬*
She has the _Furies._
Could you do the muses? I find them really interesting.
According to Plato, the citizens of Sais, Egypt worshipped a Goddess called Neith. Neith was a Goddess of war and hunting and was also associated with weaving.
I like the fact you mentioned the older version to the newer. Thanks always love her
Wow, for how many times he’s been brought up in other “Messed Up” episodes I’m surprised we haven’t got an episode about Hephaestus...👀😉
About Hygiea, there's another rendition that she is an individual goddess associate with Hebe as twin sister.
Hey Jon just saw your posting about updating a video on Saturday. I’m really looking forward to it but more importantly I hope that you feel much better. As always love your channel man! Keep up the great work😎
I seriously have always love love loved your videos! You make hearing stories or even history fun and your sense of humor is great lmao
I have been anxiously waiting for you to do the mythology for Athena, She is absolutely my favorite goddess and I named my daughter after her. YOU DID GREAT I might add... There are a few things about her it would have been nice to hear you talk about. HOWEVER, you did really well as always. The mythology of Athena is what started my love of mythology all around.
thank you so much! I plan on doing additional videos on all of the gods I cover just so I can get into the myths a little more (as well as what they evolved from) so this def won’t be our only time discussing her :)
@@JonSolothat will be great, I absolutely love your channel.
My dad and my brother were just arguing over whether or not Han shot first. I told them Jon shot first 😂😂😂😂
I’m so glad I found your channel your channel it’s one my favorites keep doing you Jon sold
I love Athena
She’s my FAVORITE Greek goddess
thank you so much for this video
I’ve been waiting for this video for ages
For your next video can you plz do Artemis goddess of the hunt she’s my second favorite goddess
@Manophere. com wtf does this mean
Yayyyyyyy another video!!!
Omg love your channel. Keep up the GREAT WORK!!！
Since I am Greek I must say you do a great job regarding the greek mythology!! congrats!!
Sacrifice to the gods by hitting like
Love that solo
If it grows on a tree, it's a fruit (olive).
Tomatoes are considered fruit and they grow on bushes!!!
@@jameskelton3718 - You've never picked garden-ripe tomatoes off of a tomato bush? 😅
Are nuts fruits? Lol I dont think I've ever heard a definitive explanation for what's in common with all fruits and nothing else. Who's the guy that exclaims what is fruit and what is not on whatever whim he felt that day? I didnt know olive was a fruit either. 😓
@@brandy4522 Right on. A tomato by any other name would taste as sweet.
If it has seeds it’s a fruit 🍎🍐🍊🍋🍉🍇🍓🍒🍑🥭🥝🍅🥑🌶 😊
Dude!!!.... I'm a total nerd when it comes to greek mythology n u just won me over as loyal listener......good work on ur documentaries
Yaaay 😁😁😁 more Solo! Athena was one of my favorite goddesses, I'm always up for learning new things about her 😄
Keeping with the “Goddashians”
The secondary versions of those stories made me feel a lot better than the first ones 😯
Hello Jon, keep up the good work.
Love the vids man keep them rolling
i have a hate love feeling toward athena ever since i learnt the other version about medusa.. but yea, she’s still a boss *brick*
The popular Medusa backstory is actually Roman, not Greek. In the original Greek version Medusa is born a monster and she is instead seduced by Poseidon while Athena had nothing to do with it.
ive never been this early
Same
Hepheastus said the same thing to Athena 😉
12:15
THANK YOU! I needed this version.
Great job man, very well written.👍
I love Greek Mythology a bit too much lol....I’m putting off eating for this video👍🏻🤷🏻♂️👌🏻
Awww, Gunther has gotten so big!
Man love your videos. Thank you.
you enlighten my messed up origins of mythologys.
thank you, jon solo !
I find it interesting that the most revered goddesses were virginal. I suppose they didn't believe that a female figure of power could also procreate. Or maybe they just respected a female figure who put all her power into helping men with their efforts like war or hunting. The goddesses that had children seemed to always get disrespected in the myths.
Lol I always found it weird that gods were usually men when women in real life were pushing humans through their vaginas...
I mean yeah, women do it all the time but like... lol. That's some crazy shit 😂
We can have it all. I can be a mother and a boss bitch. That’s why when I play Sims I tend to make the virgin goddesses marry. Plus Athena and Artemis are Zeus daughters. He probably forbade them to marry.
The story I know of Arachni is she hung herself after Athena wove her tapestry showing the "future of man", to paraphrase, so the goddess felt sorry for her and turned Arachni into a spider.
Still turning someone else into a spider just because she's A BETTER Weaver than you is not fair .
Your videos are really good!
I hope we get more videos about Athena. There’s so much to tell with her.
Everyone’s here saying “first”
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