How abortion bans make inequality worse
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 07. 2022
- And the study that offers a glimpse into a post-Roe v. Wade future.
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In 2008, researchers with the University of California San Francisco embarked on a study that compared the outcomes of two similar groups of women, each at a crucial juncture in their lives: a visit to an abortion clinic. The groups differed, though, in whether or not they were able to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. It was called the Turnaway Study, named for those who were turned away by the clinic because their pregnancies were past legal gestational limits, and it provides some of the best data we have on the impacts of abortion bans.
Among the studyâs findings is the severe financial impact of being forced to parent a new child when someone is already living in difficult financial circumstances. People who seek abortions, especially later-term abortions, are far more likely than the general population to be living in poverty, or otherwise financially unstable. That fact makes it unsurprising that, when researchers asked women about their reasons for seeking an abortion, not being financially prepared was the most common reason. This video offers a glimpse into the financial penalty of parenting under difficult circumstances.
We interviewed several women who had similar experiences to the women in the study. We didnât seek out interviewees who exactly reflected the circumstances of the study participants (i.e., the length of gestation when they sought an abortion, or their socioeconomic background) but their stories reveal some parallels: most people want an abortion because they donât feel financially stable or donât have a partner they want to co-parent with.
The Turnaway Study also looked at mental health outcomes, relationship outcomes, and whether or not study participants chose adoption instead of parenting. Whether or not they chose adoption is relevant to common pro-life rhetoric, which encourages people to give unwanted children up for adoption rather than choose abortion. But the Turnaway Study found that 91% of women who were denied an abortion chose to parent, which indicates that adoption is not a feasible alternative for most people. We interviewed Gretchen Sisson, a researcher who looked at adoption rates and motivations among the Turnaway Study participants.
For more coverage of the Turnaway Study:
www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/ma...
For lead Turnaway Study researcher Diana Greene Fosterâs book about her study:
bookshop.org/books/the-turnaw...
For links to further research using Turnaway Study data:
www.ansirh.org/sites/default/...
For Gretchen Sissonâs work on adoption:
www.whijournal.com/article/S1...
We also interviewed Katie Woodruff, who analyzed news coverage of abortion:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30309...
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Vox should've asked
*"Why didn't you use condoms?"*
I am just curious.
Vox, all you guys made an argument for is the sterilization of those in poverty.
@@TheWaleedKhalid condoms do fail you know
While people were trying to survive the economic restraints of the pandemic at least one country was having more babies during lockdown, Denmark. A country that spends more than 10 times as muchas the USA in child benefits. If you really cared about children you'd spend money on women not economically prepared.
@@nuance8530 maâam what??? They should put moreeee money into helping the people/families. They need to help us be prepared rather than avoid the problem.
If you want to stop abortions, don't start by making them illegal. Start by fixing the problems that lead to abortions: poverty, insufficient childcare resources, etc. It feels like we care more about the unborn child than the living child and parent.
yes⊠people need to realize that pregnant people donât get abortion for fun đ„Č they weigh their situation and capability, itâs always a hard decision to take.
So true, but nobody's interested in fixing those
Thatâs the right approach. Fix the system that leads to abortion
The whole pro life messaging of making abortion illegal and unthinkable needs to change, it has to be the other way around.
What's insufficient about America's childcare resources? I am honestly asking bc for goodness sakes yall live in the biggest country in the world????
I came from a third world country. The poverty level is horrible here compared to America, abortion is banned, and yet the issue never came up in our political debate?? It feels like you guys are just making up things to avoid the guilt of killing unborn children smh
All of this doesnât even begin to mention necessary abortions for miscarriages. My mom was pregnant again when I was 9, but that pregnancy just straight up failed. Fetus had died for unknown reasons after 4 months. My mom had to get an abortion in order to remove it. Complete abortion bans would have ruined her health.
Nah, they allow for emergency circumastances too
@@zevvxn in some states which they do allow it. but it costs more money if you don't live in the state that allows abortion. But that what the video is about
"Would have ruined her health" is an understatement. Would have costed her life.
Miscarriages are not abortions. Removing dead fetal tissue is not against the law nor will it be
@@beefcupcakes5959 miscarriage is quite literally a spontaneous abortion. ask an OB-GYN.
As someone who is currently looking for an apartment with my 2 month old son, itâs not easy to do child rearing. I never wanted an abortion. But you quickly realize how the society is not prepared for children.
Edit: ad hominem is an argumentative fallacy used to attack an individual instead of the argument. The fact that individuals assume my life based on a few words I commented on a CZcams video, is jarring and thatâs why issues like these are still talked about!
Well depends on the society... What I've noticed in my area (Hungary, Europe) is that old and young people are generally friendly to kids and babies even when they make a show like when they cry so loudly. They just understand that this is what it takes to raise a generation and to live a fulfilling life
Abortion should still be illegal
@@valerkis8280 Iâm from the Caribbean and I could even ask my neighbor to have an eye on my baby. In the US, money talks first.
American society is unique in its refusal to support women who either want or donât want a pregnancy, let alone women with children.
@@r8chlletters So food stamps and other cash assistance is not âsupportâ?
You only mentioned women and thatâs a big problem right there with western women. Women cannot create babies by themselves so where is the father?
If you look back at history a pattern shows up: if you ban something that everybody wants, it instead becomes unsafe and unregulated (Ex: prohibition. Instead of stopping people from drinking, they just started making their own drinks, and there was no longer any kind of minimum drinking age.). An abortion ban would have a similar effect. Illegal imports, unsafe methods of abortion, etc.
Except abortion was illegal not that long ago and the mortality rates from those abortions were extremely low. And now our science is far better so those rates would be miniscule, if that was even an issue. Remember, most of the US will remain far more progressive with abortion than any other country besides maybe North Korea
But you wanna ban guns right
@@stone8474 No. A full ban would obviously cause the same thing as with other full-stop bans, but we can tighten restrictions a bit. If there is a legal way to do something most people will take it, even if it is a hassle.
@@canary8212 so, overturning Roe v Wade was emm... "tightening restriction a bit"?
@@stone8474 No one is tryna to ban guns. Regulating is not banning. Yâall honestly act like progressives and liberal donât own guns as if yâall have concerned the market.
All this in a country without guaranteed healthcare or paid parental leave.
And a baby formula shortage.
@@777Skeptic Yes!
find the brain to elect someone without alzheimers first and then you see about the rest.......
Nice to be forced a pregnancy knowing that if you end up having pregnancy poisoning you end up with a big bill or dead. Or if you have difficult delivery you end up with a big bill and likely with huge injuries or even death. And multiple other harmful things that happens to women because of pregnancy.
And a country that is far more economically worse off than it was when Roe v Wade was implemented. The middle class is essentially gone, as is the notion that a bartender could support a family of four with vacation and retirement.
"If someone tells you they're not ready to carry a pregnancy to term, they're not. Believe them." This made me so emotional.
I wasn't ready. I knew that. I was so, so lucky to be believed, and to receive abortion care. I can tell you with absolute certainty that my outcomes were better because I received that care.
Iâm glad you made the right choice for you đ
only you know your situation and ability, so whatever choice you made, itâs the right one :)
Abortion care? Didn't care about the dead baby tho.
@@KerriEverlasting đ We đ need đ more đ poor đ babies đ
@@LutraLovegood yes absolutely we need more poor babies if the alternative is killing a baby because they have a likelihood of being poor
Something this also highlighted is how fathers are not held to the same standard as mothers. And how the system set up in our country donât hold fathers accountable. The mother is de facto parent. And that happens regardless. As somebody who divorced my sonâs father, and he was planned, I am still dealing with a father who is not present and not financially supportive.
I think that there's an interesting conversation to be had about weather fathers always have a responsibility to provide financial support given that, rightly, they lack the same opportunity to prevent a pregnancy from becoming a child. I suppose we should ask ourselves, if mothers have the opportunity to abort due to financial circumstances, what safeguards we can put in place for fathers who do not have the capability to fund an unwanted child. Perhaps a certain amount of tax based child benefit funding for single mothers instead?
Lol the system is just now starting to hold women accountable lol I guess you can say your baby dad had a financial abortion lol
It's 2 sides of the same coin. Fathers are less likely to gain custody of their children even if they fight hard for it.
If an abortion is to happen the father has no say even if he wants the child and the mother doesn't (Which the man doesn't have to go through pregnancy but it is still an issue)
A father can be forced into child support even when they had no knowledge of conception (rare but it does happen).
I grew up with a father who paid child support but hated doing so. I wasn't in his life, he shouldn't have to pay to support me.
but *you* divorced him and drove him away
The mother is always the de facto parent because that's how nature works, in nearly every animal on earth, the mother takes care of the child, take it up with mother nature and or god, which ever you believe in, they created it the world, not me, I just live in it.
This only comes to show that abortion is not just a pro-life or pro-choice matter, because the consequences of a pregnancy don't simply end by giving birth, and that's particularly valid in countries without strong social system. It's a matter of taking responsibility, having the resources (incl. financial) and being able to commit long-term - so many things men can easily escape by simply leaving. I just cannot understand how decision makers in the politics/judicial system don't see that.
bc their decision has absolutely nothing to do with that. it's about electability AND about the declining birth rates for the non-white population... which goes back to electability. idk if u realized but if you are not flushed with cash, they kinda dont care about you. and if ur flushed with cash abortion bans are a non-issue for you.
Why donât you see that murdering a human brcause of its cost is evil?
@@whydontyouhateme we do that all the time, safety regulations, denying health care by artificially increasing prices. Refusing to introduce plague related restriction due to the economy etc. etc.
That's besides the fact that we aren't talking about a human, we are talking about an bundle of cells very much still part of the mother which doesn't have a nervous system or independent processes.
You can't avoid being asked to pay for child support if a wife decided to have a child. He can't easily escape the made up responsibility the wife decided for him. It's not fair. Sending some financially incompetent fathers to jail seems to be not in the best interest of a child(children). If we gonna allow abortion, men should have an equal say in it. I don't have any suggestion for a tie-breaker though.
Oh they do see it. It's a feature, not a bug, to them.
It's almost like if we don't make sure people can afford to be parents, they they try to avoid becoming parents. Who'd'a thunk? IDK, maybe if we want fewer abortions, we should have extensive support systems like universal healthcare, free childcare, paid parental leave, et cetera.
Well you would suppose but Nordic countries still have very high rates of abortion while healthcare, child care, school and college is all free, paid leave. It almost takes 0 dollars for rasing a child in such countries assuming your in the lower class getting more welfare benefits on top of the universal ones.
Nordic countries also have lower birth rate than African countries in abject ducking poverty. So itâs not about being able to afford being a parent.
Also if abortion isnât bad why would lowering it be a concern to you?
@@Lebronwski Abortion isn't bad or good. It's just necessary for survival for many women. Making it illegal, while not helping her survive after forcing her seems extremely immoral.
Avoid becoming parents by killing their own children? What about abstinence?
@@whydontyouhateme Abstinence could work if people were really taught that level of self-discipline. But unfortunately, that's a long shot for America.
@@Lebronwski Well thatâs a lie lol. Iâm from Denmark, and (high) expenses very much still go with child-rearing. Then thereâs the fact that our systems, at least in Denmark, have been getting worse and worse lately (similar to the UK), the fact that our sectors which take care of ill and disabled people are awful in many regions (special education especially), the fact that thereâs a lot of racism and xenophobia here, etc. The people who are very aware of that, and who know that their child could meet those issues, and that they, as parents, wouldnât get much support in overcoming them, is probably why some still choose to get abortions. Youâve got to have a very stable position in Denmark to feel safe in bringing a child into our systems.
Plus, even if we lived in an ideal utopia, abortions would always be needed, anyway. Because some people just get pregnant and arenât ready for it, or donât want it. And some people could be at high risk of becoming physically or mentally ill because of it, or disabled, or risk death.
Pregnancies will never be a dance on roses, no matter how supportive the country you are in is (and again, Nordic countries most certainly are not as supportive as they could be) and for some people, having a pregnancy would either destroy their quality of life, or significantly burden it. People should never be forced through that.
Making childcare accessible and free is important, secondly allow women to take more parental leave , childcare leave with pay. Raising a child is no joke, harder if you are a single parent.
Donât be a single parent, use contraception.
@@masada2828lol, so then what is the difference between contraceptive and abortion, you are anyway killing life before it attaches to an egg
Allow men to take more parental leave too.
@@masada2828 contraception, even if you can afford it, is not 100% effective.
@@masada2828 And if the contraception fails what then?
the people who made these laws have never been impoverished. never been without food, electricity, or a roof over their head. just give them to foster care!!! like are you so detached from reality that u think being abused/r*ped in the system until u age out is beneficial to anyone??? 1 in 3 homeless ppl in AZ are children who aged out of the system
Cope
Forcing people to go against their wishes, whether to keep a child or abort a child, causes so much trauma. Thatâs why not giving people the ability to choose really shackles their lives.
What about giving the unborn child a chance to live! Unborn child is genetically unique individual from the moment of conception. Adoption not abortion is the morally right choice for mothers who cannot care for their babies.
@@tomaz3487 the child doesn't have trauma cause they don't even know they exist. They don't have nervous system, they don't fell pain and don't even know they're being aborted. A woman carrying unwanted pregnancy fells a lot of physical pain especially durning birth, that causes huge trauma and her whole life changes 180 from work to finances to education etc. Woman's life is 1000000 times more important than fetus
@@tomaz3487 There are 108,000 adoptable children in the US right now. The average age of a waiting child is 7.7 years old. 29% of these children wait more than 3 years before being adopted. Adding to our already overburdened foster care system is just condemning more children to being unloved and unwanted and abused.
And that completely ignores that forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy in the country with the highest maternal mortality rate of all industrialized nations is basically the government killing women.
The consequences are steep Iâm sure but why wasnât a condom being worn? Thatâs the part that I have a hard time understanding. Is it a heat in the moment thing to not wear a condom?
@@frankalmanzar3492 it doesnât always work 100%. That enough should be a reason for abortion to be fully legal
as in the book Freakonomics, Steven D Levitt says that when crime was peaking in 70's and 80's in the USA and suddenly dropped in the early 90's and people suddenly grappling for explanations. Many were floated around. Better policing, stricter punishment for criminals, a growing economy and a myriad of other reasons. But the true reason was the Roe v Wade decision in 73 that made abortions legal for all in the USA. This led to women of colour, of poor economic background, material abusers and all others who had unwanted or unplanned pregnancies get an abortion. But before that, they had to have a child. And that child was more likely to become a criminal because of the mother's background and subsequent parenting. hence crime was in a growth. but by late 80's, the children who would have been born if abortion wasn't legalized would be in their late teens. An age where they would be at their criminal peak committing violent crimes. This led to low criminal population in all. hence the drop in crime rates.
Its true that overturning Roe v Wade sent USA by 50 years. But in 20 years, if it isnt overturned back again, we will see higher crimes and more violent crimes.
I expect this is likely. Though I've also seen correlation with the removal of Lead from Gasoline. (Not poisoning the population may have also had some impact)
@@davidalearmonth i'd imagine it's a myriad of things that worked in tandem. there were also major civil rights steps, both a decade before and during the 70's
Roughly at the same time police were allowed assault rifles and were given heavier weapons too, so it could be multiple factors
I believe it was a sort of mix of factors, but Roe v Wade absolutely contributed to lower crime rates.
From a European's perspective, the US is just one giant clown show
Yes
*World's perspective
You canât own guns cry harder
Does part of Europe ban drugs like birth control etc.
Contraceptives
Just wanted to mention that not all abortions are because of unwanted pregnancies
@Robert Martin I don't know. How should the state control how a women can form a family? I don't think the state should control how a woman can form a family.
@woefulmelancholy agree, what some do not think of is birth control can fail and also r@pe can also happen
@@felicitymousey1195 also medical issues happen or financial difficulties or living in an unsafe environment, lots of reasons
The vast majority of abortions are due to unwanted pregnancys. unless you are against elective abortions, why even bring this up?
Everyone needs to come to terms with the fact that people who are pro-forced birth just don't care. They know the realities of the struggles these women will have to experience and they don't care. They know that this will lead to more people being stuck in poverty, they just don't care. You cannot reason with these people, no new information will matter, they have the information and they still just don't care.
They do care, just more for the baby than the mother.
Yes your right, Iâm done talking to these people. In fact if I find out someone is pro forced birth I want nothing to do with them. They make me sick.
@@davidmei3702 they donât care about the baby either. These are the same people who are against stronger social welfare and aid for struggling families. They care about the *idea* of a baby. The concept of a child. But the actual kid? The actual health and growth of the baby? âWell they can always get adoptedâ or âthe mother should have prepared for a child betterâ or âyou just need to work harder.â
@@davidmei3702 They don't care for the baby, they care for the birth.
@@davidmei3702 they don't care for the baby either because it is highly likely to end up growing poor and more likely to end up sick or dead anyway, because the mother hasn't the finance needed to take care pregnancy or the child after birth.
Things i didnt even think about until this video:
1) Mourning a life and a career without the responsibility and burden of an unwanted pregnancy/child.
2) Being able to leave a relationship without having to consider a child/family being impacted
Open mindeness
Thanks for watching with an open mind! I wish more of the decision makers were like you.
People just dont understand the consequences of their wrongful actions
@@GG-um8ug what wrongful actions are those
The second one is big because women in abusive relationships are not always allowed contraception. If they are the man certainly isn't wearing a condom. And can they afford contraceptives for the woman? Even with every precaution you can't put a child up for adoption without the fathers consent. And women are unwilling and unable to leave in many cases if they have a child with the abuser. It creates a permanent connection.
Loving this season of America so far, the directors did a really great job making this show
Lol funny!
Have to disagree, the show is way too unrealistic. How can so many mass shootings and this abortion case and other absurdities happen so frequently anywhere in real life?
Yeah if it was a horror story đ„Č
Bahahahaha!
@@khalilahd. American horror story
Fix your healthcare, America. Many of these people won't even seek abortion anymore. The medical expenses in the US are a joke to humanity!
I agree, the US needs to fix itself and fast
If only it were that simple and quick. With the absolute power of wealthy individuals/companies it is nigh impossible.
I know this isnât a very good idea, but the US needs to turn to Communism for a while, then go back to capitalism.
@@KingVermilion Yeah and no one will like it if it happens.
Yup! America has many issues, starting with the "we're #1" fallacy.
The US is slowly becoming a theocracy, and due to that they are going though a period that most other counties have gone though but that was atleast 300 years ago for most of Europe
How is banning abortion making it a "theocracy"?
What he means is that strong religious views in the US heavily influences it's legislation
@@shaqsoda9627 I don't seem to recall people complaining that religious morals were a strong influence on Human Rights?
An absurd take. You can value life without religion.
Sad but true đȘ
I think Layidua Salazar at around 10:46 shines a light on one of the motivations for men who want to outlaw abortions. If she would have had a child she wouldn't have left her bad relationship. It is a way to trap women. Having a wife to bring in a second income while still taking on most of the household and childcare duties is a great deal for HIM! :(
Good lord it's depressing this even has to be discussed. As a brit myself I just hope the US can get back to something approaching sanity soon, the rest of the west would be relieved.
You do realise that the women in this study who were denied an abortion are really close to the line in the UK? And depending on which point they went to the clinic, would have been denied in the UK tooâŠ
They have time to have fun but no time to work hard to become less poor. Inequality is product of different levels laziness and fun seeking among people .
We would be relived too
@@mcfly2872 yes but abortion is literally illegal in most places in America anyway⊠you can go to jail for âmurderâ of an unborn, undeveloped, non breathing foetus
â@@TheDogGoesWoof69 it's always murder, stop comforting yourself đ
I'm remembered of a song an Australian guy wrote about how people think kids only matter when they're not born yet. Think of it this way. If a mother is going to suffer and have a miserable life, it would be natural that their child would sustain such a life as well, maybe even worse if the mother becomes abusive because of her misery. So by denying abortion from her you have essentially ruined two lives. People talk about how the potential of the child's life would be denied if they were aborted but I don't think they've thought about the potential of the mother's life. Is that not a life?
fr nowadays govt think a fetus life is worth more than the mother. and ppl say we have equality already đ
Exact-a-mundo. Everything wrong in the world from mass murderers to dictators could be traced to unloving parents.
i think a huge factor in this is that fathers arenât held accountable. it takes two to have a child. and as a man, iâm disappointed with the amount of men that donât step up and take care of their own child. itâs cowardly and should be punished.
Agreed
Agreed. It's their job as well.
Factuals I feel same. Abortion isn't permanent solution
Maybe they are used to women having abortions to fix their âproblemâ.
Women have more options than men to prevent pregnancy. Women arenât held to account nearly enough. It takes two to tango.
@@mkhud50n it really depends on the individual's body and health whether those contraceptive methods will actually work. But yes, it takes 2.
Of course. If unwanted children are not brought up in impoverished circumstances, how else will they become the future surplus blue collar labour for capitalism, and the cannon fodder aka soldiers in neo imperialist wars abroad?
I've seen a lot of comments saying "just don't get pregnant in the first place" or something along those lines.
Contraceptives do NOT have a 100% success rate. You can do all your best to not be pregnant and still get pregnant.
It's like getting mad at someone for using braces, you can do all you want to prevent crooked teeth but you can't guarantee you won't need braces.
I personally would prefer to see 2 happy people in a secure relationship, than 3 people in an abusive, financially unstable, and rocky relationship.
Not 100% but most forms of birth control have over 97% success rate. Truth is, many people just donât want to use contraceptives or birth control. Not sure why but they donât. I think before it gets to the point of needing an abortion there are many options or preventative measures that can be taken, many people just think they wonât get pregnant and ignore these preventive measures- these are the individuals who are getting majority of the abortions. Those who say no to every other method in place to protect them from unwanted pregnancy.
@@Untamedbeauty015 you are 100 percent incorrect.
Plus contraceptives are also really hard to access and can be very expensive. And some states are thinking about banning contraceptives.
i can personally attest to the "contraceptives do not have a 100% success rate" bit. i know people personally for whom contraceptives just haven't worked, and they ended up pregnant.
Dont finish inside. There is always way. So ...
No one even talks about the affects of pregnancy imagine forcing a women to go thru an unwanted pregnancy all bc âmy religion says abortion is a sinâ âabortion is murderâ âshe needs to take accountability for her actionsâ, and that women gets ptsd bc of how traumatic and painful that pregnancy was on her mentally and physically, bet yâall pro lifers feel great but hey at least you saved a life huh, what about her life does that mothers life not matter to you ?
Women are forced into pregnancy, you realize people are forced into abortion too. If not financially then through family or relationship pressure.
Exactly what I was concerned about when I heard of the ban. Everyone was talking about right to life, nobody was talking about guaranteeing a good life.
What?? There is never a guaranteed a good life for anyone. Good or bad life is choices and consequences. There is nothing right about ending or killing a person. I dont get it about americans, how can one side likes gun but dont like abortions, but the other side wants abortion but dont want gun?? Why always choose killing as resorts answer to any of your problems?
@@naz6james570 You summed it up perfectlyđ
Guaranteeing a good life *starts* with guaranteeing life.
Don't hate on pediatricians because they are not involved in geriatrics.
Cheers! :)
"How abortion bans make inequality worse" is the most common sense title I have read. It's taking away the right for a person to choose what happens with their body but not just anyone's body.. and issue which only effects women... so yea inequality is going to be worse.
The problem is that Americans are _really_ hard at acting in common sense so you need a very direct title
No one has the right to take away an innocent life, if that's the case there would be no life.
John 3:16-21 đ
1 John 1:9 đ
"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
@@NewCreationInChrist896 Then do the Father who abandon their children and go away without any problem in his life is innocent????
@@NewCreationInChrist896 1. Youâre prioritizing a clump of cells which doesnât socialize, have complex thoughts, over an actually present womanâs health and support system, which is quite alternate to that quote
2. Stop bringing church into state.
â@@NewCreationInChrist896 ok that's your religion. you have the right to practice it. you don't HAVE to get an abortion. No one is FORCING women to have them. But taking the right to choose you are FORCING people to have kids. Whether they have been victim of assault, health risk for them or their possible baby. If you live in the United States you're protected by your first amendment rights which embodies Separation of Church and State. Your religion and beliefs shouldn't be forced on others.
United States is a democracy not a theocracy.
Keep your religion to yourself and practice it without imposing on others.
My heart aches thinking of the future and current children who were abandoned, neglected, abused, or are in the system.
Abortion saves the lives of children. The people who are anti-abortion need to allow abortion and focus on the already numerous children who deserve to be brought into a loving family through adoption or foster care.
Save the already birthed children.
How does ending the life of a baby save the child?
@@JD-yp9zr Who gonna pay for the baby?
@@JD-yp9zr the baby will suffer more if itâs alive and has no one to take care of it, itâs practically fending for itself. Abortion is basically mercy killing
@@JD-yp9zr it's literally better than having a lifetime of trauma.
@@midwhore being poor is better than being dead explain
pro-life is a strategy that does precisely what capitalism wants: it supplies the market with desperate working-class people willing to bear minimum wages in order to sustain themselves; and high criminality rates that enrich private-owned prisons, fund the companies that supply estate prisons, and motivate the population to get attached to conservative views regarding social causes such as the prison system.
What do you define capitalism as?
The party that wants mass immigration and large amounts of women in the workforce want to tell us we are trying to create a free labor market
@@thegreatprogressivemind788 lol true
Propagandist
@@thegreatprogressivemind788 yes because a parent that has to support a child is much more vulnerable to exploitation than a single person. Especially if that parent is also a young person with an unplanned/unwanted pregnancy. Having a child in general can take time/energy away from protesting, agitating for workers' rights and limits your capacity for risk. As in, quitting a job that is underpaying you or treating you unfairly. Or moving for a job if it's in the middle of the school year or the schools in another area are far or bad quality.
This will also affect the disabled community significantly.
Are disabled people not able to use condoms?
â@@scoob7995 you make it sound like it's better if disabled people were never born when you say they're too expensive...
â@@beefcupcakes5959 Every child, that can not be financially supported according to their specific needs, is better off not to be born. Logically, children with higher maintainance cost are more affected (within this paradigm) then their peers.
@@scoob7995 also a possibility that genetic malformities will pass on to their children leading to even more financial burden to look after them.
@@beefcupcakes5959 if theyâre too badly disabled to have a good life and the parents donât have to money for the hospital bills then yeah itâs better
I wish we could get information on the biological fathers: their finances, how long they stay in relationships, how many relationships they've had and how many of those relationships resulted in pregnancies, do they pay child support, what their occupations are and even what political parties they choose.
I really don't think there politics matter if they are a good parent.
It matters because some parties are for paid parental leave and assistance and some are not.
If the government wants people to have children, it should enable people financially to do so. Why would you kids want to grow up in poverty and stress bc they werenât supposed to be born. Those people will later struggle in life and end up poor or even jobless.
criminality rates amongs those kids is also pretty high
@Tnkrhll well if thereâs a lack of fiscal money just increase taxes for people who doesnât pay enough yet which would be rich people.
The solution to the inequality caused by giving birth is solved by providing proper maternity leave and child support, like we do in the UK and the EU. The only acceptable reason for a woman to have an abortion is that she choses to have one. No other arguments needed. No other explanation needed.
US is not the EU or the UK.
@@unreal111 Cheesecakes are not dumplings or calzones.
@@sonderlateka ?
@Les Toussaint well we have decades of data and public policies from the aforementioned United Kingdom and European Union. If we still feel "lost" on how to help economically disadvantaged pregnant women, then we could sneak peek at how New Zealand, Australia, or heck even Canada do it.
@Les Toussaint I've lived in the UK, Australia, America, the EU, and been to Canada. If there are any countries in the world that America can take lessons from these are it. Not China, not India, not Japan, nor Indonesia. The EU would be bigger than America if it was its own country, and the federated system in the EU is very similar to the American federal system. Besides America is a union of states, and each state is not much bigger than Canada, Australia, or New Zealand. If the EU can mandate laws and regulations for 400 million people and be this succesful, and Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland can run policies for states with population of 35million - 4 million than so can America and its states.
Let us make it perfectly clear. Total bans on abortion are misogynistic.
louder for the ppl in the back !!
I mean no they are separate things. But one can lead to the other
I agree. They are misogynistic. This is all about controlling women's bodies. And no one believes that, then why isn't that fetuses growing in science labs are not getting the same strident protest against that that equals to women wanting an abortion? People will say it's about "the murder of children," but it never really was about that. It is, underneath it all, about controlling what women do with their bodies.
What?
yeah, I was waiting for this comment lol. The evil men trying to control women, classic. Apparently banning the killing of your child is misogynistic smh.
You could also do a video on the drop off of crime 18 years after roe v Wade. I wonder if this will reverse in 18 years in the future
@@rickybobby7276 what graph are you looking at? Crime has been decreasing for decades. The overall trend has been lowered consistently
Crime is going back up because of the defend the police movement, isn't it?
@@beefcupcakes5959 You must watch Fox "News". Lol
@@davidalearmonth Actually I listen to Reuters
And if you can provide data on left leaning cities that have lower crime rates since 2020, that would be great! I want to stay informed
@@beefcupcakes5959 There have been protests, and rightly so, after so many police killing innocent people.
But most violence and mass shootings I'm aware of tend to be from Right Wing individuals and groups.
Being pregnant is a commitment in itself. You are sick most the time and it is exhausting. Iâm 20 and pregnant and it was unplanned. I thought about abortion and made the appointment but the entire time wanted to keep it. So Iâm keeping it. I have a choice and Iâm sick of people telling woman they need to do.
So do you agree , that if a man isn't ready to be father , doesn't have a good financial situation or simply doesn't want to be a father , he should be able to opt out of parenthood the Same way women do and should not being looked for child support if a pregnancy occurres?
@@madmouse4400 abortion is opting out of pregnancy, which is different than opting out of parenthood. If the woman gives birth to the baby and decides she wants to give it up for adoption but the father objects then she has to give the baby to the father and pay him child support.
Abort it sis
It's just a cell less lively than an insect itself
@@hello-xf5ow how sick are u
@@madmouse4400 women only want these laws to benefit them , they don't care about their health or the baby , they just selfish
Completely hypothetically, if men could become pregnant, I donât think the right to abortion had ever been abolished. That is to say that this seems like a part of a bigger crackdown on reproductive and especially womanâs rights. I feel so sad for American women whenever I read or watch something about Roe v Wade. Honestly, I think you (women in the US) should all move out of your country or your state, at least be prepared for that.
Interesting how it seems to hurt a certain portion of women more than others, if I was one to theorize you could even say it was intended.
I just want to add that abortion is totally illegal in Philippines. Its sad. Just look at the overpopulation here and teenage pregnancies mostly coming from poverty areas
Some men can get pregnant, itâs just rare (some intersex and trans men). But itâs hard to tell how things would be different if more men in power could get pregnant. Certainly, misogyny has had a big effect on this whole issue, in both the legal and the social sides.
Are you okay? Their main argument is for babies. Not women.
I am for sure. Right now I live in state where abortion is allowed but for how long is the question it can change every time an elected officials deems otherwise. I work in healthcare and I will take my money with me to a state that allows choices for women if need be.
which is sadder?: that we feel the need to conduct studies to figure out that women should have rights or that empirical facts don't matter to conservatives anyway đ€đ€Ź
I dont get why its sad to do a study on the matter? More informed we are the better.
It's actually a good thing to empirically confirm something before we kickstart a policy program blindly to appease women or any other demographic.
Nothing about it is sad.
Replace _"conservatives"_ with _"liberals"._ They're the ones who deny the fact that abor-tion is mur der and that fetus is a human being.
Yes.
@@samuraijosh1595
We appease Christians and right-wingers often. This usually causes suffering.
I guess they approve of suffering.
If motherhood was adequately subsidised by the government pregnancy wouldn't be a life destroying ordeal.
Also if medical care was a right and not a privilege you could plan things better.
Either way the US way of dealing with pregnancy and children is horrific. Forcing women to have children and not supporting them is punishing the children for existing. That's going to have a huge knock-on effect generations from now.
I think many women might well choose to carry unexpected pregnancies to term if we actually had a good social safety net.
Then it would be the governments child. The government would act like the father. Like Hitler in Germany. Way to repeat history without realizing it.
When did we force them to have children?
I agree that US mothers need more of a support network. However, we should also recognize that pregnancy in itself is a life threatening health issue with many lasting impacts. No amount of safety net can take that away. Abortion access is at least offering them to engage consensually with that risk, but it's still there
@@Brad14397 pregnancy is also a life giving health issue. Depending on how you look at it. It is called being born after all. Risks are a part of life and we wouldnât get anywhere without taking a risks. Or being born. There are no guarantees in life. Nobody is born into a perfect risk free world.
It's like the anti-choice ppl come to the video and don't even watch it and go to every comment saying "Still killing a baby tho"
Still is murder
Because that's their entire argument. They see an egg, embryo and fetus as the exact same as a 5 year old child. Their entire argument is based off of their emotions, not philosophy, not ethics, not science, not sociology, nothing, just "YOU'RE KILLING A BABY".
@@existing3628 oh how very pro life of you. do remember to think about how you're unintentionally murdering plants and animals the next time you eat food.
@@existing3628 No it is not. A person has to have been born for it to be murder. But I get it. Words are hard.
@@tarag7292 I like your passive aggressiveness. Anyways, why is it murder if a person kicks a pregnant woman's belly and the 'parasite' dies?
I worry this is going to result in a lot of abandoned babies on the doorsteps of adoption centers because people canât afford taking care of them but they canât afford the abortion either and theyâll be shamed for putting their children up for adoption and get a black mark on their papers for being âunfit parentsâ.
I remember learning about society in the past punishing young women for abandoning their babies because they couldnât take care of them yet not even questioning the fathers. I thought âGood thing itâs not like that anymoreâ WellâŠ
Or it can result in people being more responsible and taking accountability
@@jasonm2245 Wishful thinking... I am highly sceptical of that happening any time in the near or maybe even distant future...
@@jasonm2245 I live in a country where abortion is not only legal but also paid for by the government so if people wanted they could get an abortion every month yet the number of people who get abortions are lower than the US per capita. Legal abortions are definitely not the problem.
And of course, inequality isn't a "side-effect." It's the intent.
gotta keep that cheap labor force
It's a feature, not a bug.
it is a made up thing
@@scose the people who supported mass immigration and women in the workforce are talking about us wanting a cheap labor force
Exactly
Seems a bit convoluted all to say the very obvious, having an unplanned child is socially, economically, and mentally difficult.
I never needed a study to know that, and I think abortion access is a basic human right.
A human right to end another human life?
@@kamala7101 Then why don't they mandate organ donation, so lives can be saved?
As with every pro-abortion argument, this video is rife with denial and obfuscation. The issue is very simple and boils down to this: in 99% of pregnancies, no one was forced into pregnancy. In this day and age of cheap and easy contraception, there is simply no legitimacy behind the idea of an âunwanted pregnancyâ. If you donât want to get pregnant then donât. The entire premise of this video talks about the egregious results of abortions for âunwanted pregnanciesâ. How about trying this: donât get pregnant if you donât want to have a baby? Problem solved!
Unless women communities can have an affordable childcare which ensures both children and parents have a life. I can see why so many Americans wanted an abortion in the first place
You are 100% correct.
Exactly, thereâs no point in having a child if you arenât in a stabled position to take care of one.
Horses commit abortion because they know that their babies will be in danger of the prideful males that kick them to death. The point is that horses use logistics, and that we should do the same.
Our country has a lot to do....
I had my abortion in 1964 when it was totally illegal. I am so grateful to the doctor who performed it. I have no guilt and am happily married with 2 wonderful stepdaughters. No regrets.
Yas queen
RIP that kid i guess..but yeah you go gal!
I feel blessed to live in a country where abortion is not only fully legal, but also paid for over the tax. Further more, tax-paid support for those in need after the abortion.
I feel for the women in the US and wish them the best.
China?
When is the cut off week for an abortion in your country? In the US some states have it up until the delivery, and many have it around 20 weeks.
@@69BTony there's a difference between abortion that let's people get abortions and people who are enforced with abortion. Enforced abortion is bad because it's enforced. Letting people who are not enforced but still want an abortion is good because it's not enforced. And at the same time, they still get the treatment.
What country do you live?
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Denmark :)
I read up about this study before and how women who get abortions are happier about it than women who are forced to have a child. In hindsight, the women who were turned down could have put the babies up for adoption, but I understand that they could have been or felt forced to care for the baby.
Itâs sad to see this. America has a lot of problems that arenât getting fixed. In fact, theyâre getting worse.
The adoption system has many horror stories. Not exactly a great place to send kids.
I am an adoptee fed up with the glib suggestion that adoption is an easy solution. It is not. It is traumatic for both mother and newborn. Recent studies on âprimal injuryâ reveal the intense trauma resulting from separating a newborn from the only body it has known for 9 mos and is engineered to crave. A high percentage of addicts & psych patients are adoptees. My own biological mother never recovered from losing me & took her own life at age 27. Stop using my community as your standard bearer - I would never have denied my own mother the option of a safe abortion. And I wouldnât be here to care if sheâd had one.
@@SN-sz7kw You say you donât care if your mother aborted you yet I see you save videos about how to keep a healthy lifestyle on your channel. For someone who says they donât care if they never existed you sure seem to care about life now.
This study like many others, "Filters" stats, such as "many women that wanted to have abortions but didn't wished they would have", that filters out women that didn't want to have abortions, that filters out women that had abortions and wished the would not have. They often filter down a stat so it fits the narative.
@Tony Boggs Thatâs inevitable, but many studies only focus on specific groups and conditions to find certain data. Thereâs no way that EVERY SINGLE consideration on the topic of a study. This study focuses on people who genuinely wanted abortions, and the effects it had on their lives depending on the outcome of their attempt.
As someone who has adopted two children as babies, I would be interested to see a study like this done for women who place their child for adoption vs. keeping the baby.
Adoption is a huge industry, how much did you pay for your adopted children? I'd rather my tax dollars go to the birth mothers so they can raise their own babies without being destitute, instead of giving the money to adoptive parents as subsidies. Abortion is preferable to adoption for most, no telling how many children are abused after the adoption.
Note that very few women do that, including in situations like this. Have you thought about why?
Does seem kinda interesting
@@silvernblack21 How about all of the children killed in abortion? Call me old fashioned, but I think Id rather see the government subsidize adoptive parents than the slaughter of the unborn.
I sure do hope I will never have to get an abortion (I'm 20) but even just the thought of not having the ability to if I needed to is extremely upsetting. Luckily I live in Belgium and don't ever see that right being taken away from me. But it's still baffling that this is a thing elsewhere in the world which calls themselves first world.
Poland has no rights, either. But even in the states, there are states that allow it and in my state, up to 6 weeks. So you can't lump all of the U.S. in one state.
@@pinkfreud62 In Poland, the law is so atrociously bad that it's straight up *dangerous* to be pregnant here at all, even if you genuinely *want* to have a baby. There were cases where women were killed by a life-threatening pregnancy. In one such case that I'm aware of, doctors refused to perform an abortion (out of fear of being persecuted) to a woman already in a serious condition, and opted to wait for a miscarriage to occur. The woman died of sepsis before the miscarriage happened.
@@ThinBear4 Iâm just so sorry. Iâm from the UK but is there any way I can support women in Poland? X
@@StrawberryLaces2012 Personally, considering the draconian state of matters regarding this problem in this country, I am not sure if there are any initiatives that can be realistically supported.
I've tried several times to provide you with a link to a website I found, or directions on how to find it in google, but my response seems to be blocked by youtube censorship... @EDIT: this should go through - remove the B letters: enB.fBedBerBa.oBrgB.Bpl
It seems to be a decent knowledgebase on this problem in Poland, as well as organizations involved. *Note: I found this site off google - though it looks safe, I have zero knowledge on how much legitimate it actually is.*
Btw, looking at some of the articles, you can tell just how messed up our situation is in this context.
In any case, huge thanks for your willingness to support my people.
Nobody talks about the men who force women into abortion, I guess as long as the abortion can and will go down half the people will look the other way.
Like conservatives care about equality. Inequality is their middle name.
Whatâs their forenames and surnames name?
The liberal policy of hiring based on race, IS DEFINETLY a form of Inequality.
Coming from a deeply religious country, it is infuriating that people will always bring up their beliefs to justify banning abortion outright.
One does not have autonomy of women's bodies just because his/her beliefs say otherwise. Also stop shoving down what one believes to other people!
thank you! the pro-life (pro-birth) movement is built on religious ideologies, and when it's basis is opinion, it's impossible to view most of it with any credibility
@@natarshagunter The pro-choice movement is a eugenics ideology
My body, my choice...for anything related to Covid-19, right!
Not getting a flu, pneumonia or covid vaccine isn't intentionally killing someone. Abortion however is the intentional killing of a human being. That's why abortion needs to be illegal.
Great study and some commenters have raised some questions for future study:
1) What percentage of men disagree with the decision the mother of that pregnancy makes? 2) For the men who wanted the pregnancy continued, how many were willing to raise the child on their own? 3). How many men who create an unwanted pregnancy are in that situation more than once? Maybe some of these questions have already been answered in another survey or studyâŠ
If birth control was free, would the number of unwanted pregnancies be reduced? If abortion care was free and legal, would child poverty be reduced? Would childrenâs mental health improve? If child care was free, would more pregnancies be wanted? This study points to many of the answers.
Birth control costs money? In chilean hospitals you can get free condoms lol
Abstinence is free
Sometimes I feel like US is not a country but just a capitalistic market.
You would be correct.
That's not a particularly profound insight, nor germane to this subject. Clearly there is a demand for this service, and there are suppliers. This is a case where conservatives that claim to be anti-regulation (but seem to actually only be against regulations that don't benefit them), are interceding in the market... to the detriment of all.
Don't you have laws that punish the father if he don't give financial support for his child?
What planet are you from?
I thought so too. Not from the US btw.
There are, but the system that operates that is stretched too thin to manage everything it needs to.
Just like child protective services is too low staff to properly monitor foster parents all over the country
Yeah a slap on the wrist maybe my child's father hasn't paid in yrs and nothing ever happens to him. He hasn't spent one day in jail. He also has several other children he doesn't pay for with any of the mothers and hasn't had one day in jail from any of the thousands he owes all of us.
If the women have to give birth, then give us good paid maternity leave and affordable daycare!
but that's the thing
they don't actually care about life, if they actually cared about life they would actually help mothers
SCOTUS: Overturns Roe v Wade
Baby formula shortage, Global food crisis, Looming economic collapse: Iâm about to perform whatâs called a â5th trimester abortionâ
Killing a 6 month old child?
@@tihana13 yes. Not a child a fetus.
@@hetvisampat Actually no. Here it is not a fetus. Because 5th trimester doesn't exist in terms of pregnancy. There are 3 trimesters during pregnancy. So this looked like a word pun, where she is already a mother of a 6 month old child. One trimester means a 3 month period. So three trimesters in pregnancy equal 9 months. So the 4th and the 5th trimester would have to be after birth. Which means there is a 6 month old baby. Born. Not a fetus.
US was supposed to be a progressive nation and so called developed. Even poor Bangladesh or India don't have such draconian rules lol.
This doesnât actually mean much if we recognize that the fetus is by all scientific standards a human life. We shouldnât get to take the life of one group of people to help another group of people.
Just send all the unwanted babies to the Supreme court judges
Send all the refugees and undocumented immigrants to your house.
@Robert Martin are males truly free when the state decides how much money they have to spend on there children
@@eirlies oh I understand I was just point out the illogical argument made by Robert Martin
@Robert Martin no the point I was trying to make was the government was not being unfair to males or females
@Robert Martin because Without a system like this the rate of single parentage would increase as well which we know to make a person more likely to commit crimes and the government never forced anyone to have kids they simply barred abortion
This is just so sad and even when you look at the three most common reasons. They are all valid reasons to have an abortion but you shouldn't even need to have a reason if you don't want it. It's that simple
Arenât there pregnancies that can cause death?
All pregnancies can cause death. It used to be the leading cause of women dying.
Parenting a child is a big project. If youâre forced to have a child, the child is likely to be born into a bad circumstances. Mentally unstable mothers, bad finances, familial arguments.
I think the US should pass a law penalizing irresponsible fathers that probably led to this problem.
His Baby His Choice, his responsibility, only if they want him to pay, otherwise he has no say.
@LT yep
It's already exists , it called"child support" and it should be banned as long as abortion is legal.
Her body her choice her PROBLEM.
Why arenât we making contraception free? Why isnât healthcare available to everyone?
Because America
Denying abortions also increases violent crime 20 years later because of the deprived children.
Blow jobs stops Abortions, it begins with you
I like that they included small points where she talks to the camera at the desk. It feels more personal alongside all the beautiful visual data visualizations. You guys are the best!
Most European countries have had this issue settled for decades and itâs never (or very rarely) a part of the public debate
Cough cough* poland, malta, Germany makes it pretty hard to get as well
I said *most*, itâs a hot issue in some Eastern European countries
Also Ireland only very recently and it's still not sorted
Having it as a public debate is not a bad thing
Receipts? Eastern bloc countries and developed countries like Ireland are debatable, where's your list? I wanna see sumn.
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor.
@@user-sb8ks1ij7b Having a child that you can not provide for is cruel and irresponsible.
Yes. In the past population has been contained by natural factors but as those become ineffective due to medical evolutions, it falls to us to manage our own population levels in a sustainable way.
If one group isn't given the chance to abort, then the other group responsible for it should also be forced to adopt or you know just support one đ
There are rules in adopting in this country that don't allow white families to adopt other than white babies. People are trying to adopt, they won't let them. Unfortunately, reality isn't the show Modern Family.
Everybody should see this video. It so accurately shows the emotions and likely outcomes that so many anti-abortion folks never understand or care to learn. I watched this with my conservative father and he was finally willing to share that he believes what I do when it comes to reproductive rights and personal freedom.
Great reporting Vox.
My mother had initially thought about terminating her pregnancy when she was pregnant with me. It causes me absolutely no resentment in me towards her. She was in college when she got pregnant with me and if it hadn't been for the fact that my mother has that kind of mentality we see in high level athletes, she would have ended up leaving school and moving back in with our family. She had to send me to live with our family when i was around two and she went on to finish school and start her career. Am seven years older than my next sibling. By the time she had my brother she was in a much better place financially and able to afford a babysitter so my brother could stay with her. She had her third and last child when I was 11 and this one was another unplanned pregnancy. By now we've had already been living in this country and the difference was huge. We were cut off from the large support system we had in our native county and this is how I developed a way too high understanding of the day care issue in this country by the time I was 12. My mother had just started as a home health aide worker so she as at the bottom of the barrel and making minimum wage so she obviously could not afford a high quality day care. She had to pay our next door neighbor to care for my younger brother and to keep an eye on me and my other brother. This was a great women but i would absolutely never ask her to care for any of my children. She raised my brother like she raised her own children and this has caused a lot of arguments now in our family because this brother is completely unmotivated and lacks any direction. I know that the generations get "softer" as they go down the line when when they grow up in a more secured environment and you can absolutely see it in our family. I love my brother to death. He is literally my favorite person in the world but I am extremely worried about having to provide for him under the day i drop dead because right now i just don't him finding a drive to succeed. Like i am ashamed to say that i now emphasize with people who use their connections to get their kids internships and jobs and have every intention of doing the same for my brother. Like anything to see him move forward in life.
Take him to church, worked for me
@@JDsGameInn hard pass
Your mother was lucky to have parents who could care for you and a neighbor who was willing to babysit, not everyone has that kind of support. And for your brother it's easy to worry because you're older and you want to see him succeed. Help him find something he's passionate about and help him get the resources to pursue it
She thiught about killing you, not about terminating anything.
@@whydontyouhateme Yes! but there is an abundant overflow of forgiveness available to anyone who calls on the name of the Lord. For any sin, big or small. Including murder!
Make clarence thomas pay for child support!
He is black, I though u guys liked him
@@existing3628 nope. We judge people by the content of their character, not the colour of their skin.
@@user-xz4du3es5p then why do u single him out?
Such a thorough piece of investigation. Thanks. It really breaks down a lot of questions I had.
economic cost of having a baby is huge. think about spending 20 years of savings in two years, never buying stuff for yourself anymore, and this is not even close to enough.
Kids will make you poor or keep you poor. I have a masters and I still can't afford them.
So many thoughts.. I don't even know how to boil them down. I think it's absolutely tragic that we have created a society where we have to convince ourselves that abortion isn't murder in order to help people to not suffer. Where did all of this go wrong?
Men getting to just leave is what makes this even worse because it's just the burden of the women even though it takes two to make a baby
Women have the right to opt out too though? Parenting is a two person job. So if either party isnt able or willing to do the job, then both parties should have the right to opt out.
This issue is not in the constitution. If you want it there in the constitution, make an amendment to the constitution.
Incoming wall of text:
The primary benefit of procreation is to spread genetic code. There are other obvious benefits, but this one is why most people donât adopt even though it is cheaper (compared to medical bills), there are plenty of candidates in need of a good home, and you donât have to deal with a pregnancy altogether. This spreading does not include only immediate offspring, but their offspring as well and so on. Allowing someone to wait until they are ready to raise a child properly will result in a better spread of genes in the long run and overall, higher happiness. Restricting this choice and forcing one to prematurely care for a child at the wrong time will likely stagnate the genetic spreading and can be considered an act of âgenetic cleansingâ, or put more bluntly, âsoft-core poverty genocideâ. Because of all of this, itâs no surprise that an overwhelming majority of those who oppose abortion rights are already well-off economically.
Another day to thanks god for not being American or living in America
Good stay away
I wish I could say the same.
Just curious, what are the abortion laws like in your country? In America some states allow abortions up until birth. Some born alive babies are killed in abortion clinics.
@@beefcupcakes5959 the killing of babies out of the womb just seems wrong to me
@@vedantbhalla2571 morally wrong or factually wrong? The Legacy of Roe is a really for documentary to watch on the subject. (Yes its from the Daily Wire but it has really good information that everyone should know)
i can't believe you need a video for people to understand that... its sad.
it is more sad that this video will change no one's mind.
its even worse because ive seen plently of comments from pro-lifers
Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger.
Having a child that you can not provide for is cruel and irresponsible.
Men need to be more responsible or get a vasectomy.
Anti-choice people: "Good."
You know what I find weird.. this second time I went to get my depo shot the nurse and doctor asked if I had an abortion which happened 6 years ago. I said no cause I wasnât trying to think about that time in my life but I felt uncomfortable with that question. It must have just appeared in my medical records cause my first depo shot 3 months ago no one asked me that.
nice to see ladies getting ready the proper way to be used and reused.
keep it up baby !!!
That's weird. There doesn't seem to be any valid reason why they would ask that
@@vacafuega right it felt really invasive and had nothing to do with my depo shot cause Iâm not pregnant. Here in Florida abortions are still legal. The nurse asked my name trying to make sure she was looking at the right medical record.
Thatâs not a bug, itâs a âfeatureâ.
Thank you for addressing this subject.
This video gave a deep look into what it means to have an abortion and along with the consequences that being denied an abortion looks like. It was eye-opening to the inequality that exists even when it comes to abortion. As women, who are more financially stable and have a greater support group back home are the ones who have greater means to get an abortion through having the money, resources, and support to do so. However, women who do not have the financial means or the support of love are the ones that do not get an abortion if it is because of money resources, or the support of those around them. Due to this, these women are the ones who get conner and have no other option than to have the baby even when they are not in a place to be able to take care of a child. For many of these women they are barely making ends meet as it is and if the women already have children to care of then the arrival of an unplanned baby makes the financial burden on the family even bigger this would affect the children that are already there as their already limited resources will be more reduce to be able to care for the baby. Individuals that were struggling or barely getting by before a baby when abortion was denied and left having the baby and so things just get ten times harder for them and everyone involved pushing many to the poverty line or even stay therefore even longer if they were there even before the abortion was denied. This report was very helpful in trying to help see the side of the story of certain women who are having a double struggle when it comes to abortion not does the government trying to take away the autonomy of women to have an abortion these women also have the barrier of the resources to be able to have an abortion. These women in underserved populations have the ethical right to not only have the autonomy to decide if they want to have an abortion or not but they should be better supported in these as an denied abortion can have serious consequences for everyone in the future.
When i saw the woman who got a abortion vs the eoman whi denied it i just knew like the woman who denied is just better in mind and in body
The South will be full of even more poor people now lol
Thatâs what happens when u raw dog it
Just to provide some context, she was talking about what we in the business calls âa natural experimentâ. Because there is no reason to believer there is anything intrinsically different between the women who make the deadline by a couple of days, and those who miss it by a couple of days. (social economic factors usually will influence the discovery of pregnancy a lot more sooner). This is probably the next best thing compared to a truly randomized trials, which is considered the best evidence for causality.
the reason for abortion ban: they need people scrubbing toilet at McDonalds haha
I was born to a single parent mom with almost no support from my father. Being treated with a supportive family really comforts me as a child growing up, knowing that I was an accident. 25 years later I'm thankful that my mom did continue with the pregnancy and i'm becaming a pride of the family. All this might work only bcz i was born on an economically stable family, supportive neighborhood environment, well respected, and loving family. It was well discussed with my fam and my mom about her pregnancy, and she was allowed to continue through her life, get degree, work and became successful while also helping me grow with my grand parents. So, the point is, i'm neither on "pro-life" nor "pro-choice". But allowing someone to get abortion as last resort option, and providing woman with some level of child bearing education, family support assesment, or any planned parenthood education before abortion is better option in my opinion. However, I'm totaly understand and will support abortion when a family isn't stable enough to have kids.
This is what being pro choice is. No one wants pregnant people who decide to keep their pregnancy to abort. It's a very difficult decision (choice) that needs to be made by the individual.
@@AN-sm3vj fully agree
Prepare for bad parents creating bad people.
Just confirming women know what is best for their life and body? This is just sad.