EVE Online Lore | The Gallente Federation - Featuring Ashterothi
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"The last two elections were basically... RIGGED"
*slaps roof of the Election* this bad boy can fit so many rigs in it!
Ampora
You all prolly dont give a shit but does anybody know of a way to get back into an instagram account?
I stupidly lost the password. I would appreciate any help you can give me
@Sam Dayton instablaster ;)
@Travis Sage Thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Travis Sage It worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
Thanks so much, you saved my account!
Man it DOES explain why i'm always having to take out "former intelligence officers" and "informants" and bringing reporters to various secluded stations for "protection" .
God damn I love being Gallente....
Wait....wait a minute, Gallente has cat girls?
I think I'll be reconsidering my loyalty
:-)
cat Girls ?
😼
Go to Dixie, look for Ira for a good time
same
As a new player it has been really interesting to hear the back story of all the races, keep up the good work :)
27:34 "They do have catgirls then"
That's what we came for, the subject matter, the ultimate accomplishment of humanity, the reason we crossed the EVE Gate thousands of years ago...
Ah the Crystal Blvd. The crowning jewel of Gallentian civil engineering. There was a chronicle about it as well.
The man who built that stargate, Ceul "Old Man Star" Darieux, also went on to found the Gallentian drone company CreoDron
Thats why i always have a couple hobgoblins in the dronebay
I get to learn lore as I start my first steps into EVE. This is great to watch on the side as I do a bit of mining.
Old Man Star will be my home point if i play EVE, story of it is great.
Love these! As a newer player it's nice to have this stuff easily accessible. It gives me more attachment to the universe, keep em coming!
Meanwhile on Intaki.
-You are now part of the federation
-Oh ok
*the end*
🤣🤣🤣
I'm yelling "Get Me Gunnery" for now on in fleet.
Likewise 🤣🤣
As a complete PvE allergic guy, I have one thing to say: beautiful and fascinating piece of work. Love when tables are turned upside down!
I was wondering what Ashterothi lore-knowledge could add to your Minmatar Republic video though to be honest as a "forever Minmie" guy I appreciated your video on the matter- while I'm pretty sure i trolled you at that time to be honest- and all its gruesome and ambivalent implications, and not only because I unfortunately have literally meters of scars all around the body- Join the navy they Navy they said 21 years ago!-
Always felt like Arturo and Villore were on a Mike Pondsmith's Cyberpunk, Deus-Ex, Jin-Roh and Philip K. Dick blurred line tough I have a hard time getting the subtitle differences. Megacorporations, Meritocracy, governments without genuine counterparts who tell you what you ought to be and behave. Like two twin brothers who cannot bear each others. Some sort of "William Wilson" syndrome. Yeah I know French guys can be weird sometime. Take care guys, thank you so much for your work!
in my 11 years of off and on playing I never really got into the lore... and I didn't think this would be that entertaining for myself
boy was I wrong! this was pretty damn cool :D
the lore is great mate, start by reading the short novels, some are damn cool
They have had 16 years to perfect it so it better be good lol
When I first started I picked gallente because of that appearance of their value for freedom. But now I realize they’re not that nice lol ... although I suspected that a little, when you do security missions you end up doing a lot of killing lol.
I suspected it from the start... Democration is not always the best
I picked the Minmatar because of their nomadic values but holy shit they're terrible lmaoo
Eve very much went in the direction of no good guys, Gallente value freedom and choice, but the actual state often works contrary to that.
Caldari corporate culture value benefiting the state overall, but that overall limits individual freedoms (autocracy and all).
Minmitar value freedom and are sympathetic due to their history with slavery, but are heavily guided by cultural and religious practices that ostricise and brutalize swaths of their own population.
Meanwhile the Amar are a slaving despotic religious empire with temple disco ships.
The sisters of Eve are probs the most good faction and even then they wield their influence to achieve goals outside of their mission statement.
Dude I'm just sitting here having an internal struggle of the version of Obi-Wan and Anakin (Vader) on Mustufar.
To be fair they're at least somewhat better than the Caldari and the Amarr, even if it's not by much, and they can do some good by causing trouble for those two.
Gal: “I’m so much better then you”
Cal: “you literally are me, I’m just honest about it”
Great video as always
Can you talk about non-playable states like Khanid and Ammatar Mandate in the next episode
It's always a pleasure to hear Ashterothi talk, I hope there are more interviews planned :)
Great stuff, love to hear about the lore, cant wait for minmatar and amarr.
Will we get some stuff about non player factions too?
Like pirate factions could be very interesting. Especially the question how "normal life" would be for them. After all they are enormous.
Or the question, why you would join a pirate faction.
Xardian Noxus he already did a great minmatar empire video by himself go check it out
There's a surgically enhanced cat person at Dodixie. True.
I chose Gallente bc the ships were cool and it sounded like an interesting government , but I know I made the right choice now. I mean , who wouldn't like to be a citizen of a state that has catgirls? Gallente all the way , man!
And this is also propaganda. Most of the bad press against the Gallente is obviously produced by Caldari corporations to demoralize their enemy and tear them apart from within.
@@serronserron1320 Gallente litterally bombarding civilazations that want to govern themselves is not propoganda, they really do this.
@@strawberry-parfait3922 Some civilizations need a guiding hand to experience freedom and democracy. And sometimes the people need saving from EVIL tyrants that would otherwise control their lives.
I've been EVE clean for a good few years now but this was thoroughly enjoyable - thank you!
If you go through all the info screens for the Caldari Navy Factional Warfare ranks, you can see a rough timeline in quotes from prominent Caldari figures from the beginning of the Caldari separatist movement to Admiral Tovil-Toba’s last moments crashing into Gallente Prime.
9 minutes in and I forgot that this is a video game
almost started taking notes lmfao
Dude same, I was stressing for that test at the end
27:06 Ah yes... Strange New World. When Huxley and Heinlein got together and made babies between Brave New World and Stranger in a Strange Land. ;D
Wha
@@matrixarsmusicworkshop561 he seemed to be mixing up two titles (or just saying Brave New World a bit off), so I made a book mash-up joke. ;)
@@gfox9295 Yes, I noticed that :_) : p
good job ! this is cool, I always loved eve lore
It's been a few years, at least since I played EVE. Recently been digging into it again though I haven't yet renewed by sub. The changes in the lore of EVE, like this presentation have pretty much clubbed me between the eyes. When I played before I was into Industry. I love making stuff and selling stuff and I was an Independent. I saw the Corporate structure as to pushy, restrictive and authoritarian. I got ambushed one to many times harvesting in High Sec and finally had enough. Nevertheless, I have never lost the wonder of the game so will probably try it again. Thus my research into the game as it is now. Its going to be a entirely different game. Thanks for the effort you put in on this episode. Utterly fascinating.
4:49 I was heavily moved by what Gallente Senate did at that time. That's why I became compassionate towards Caldari ever since. I used Naga as an inspiration for a school project and I won first place. Caldari ship designs are next level even if they are just office blocks. Before all the federation guys attack me, please understand I'm a die hard federation fanatic and so please do understand that we have done wrong as well so we should become compassionate towards Caldari.
However, I'm still not withdrawing from FW, it's fun fighting for galmil
Would be cool if they had an event where the rogue drones build a Titan sized potato dominix and invade or declare war on highsec!
Sounds more like the EU. Nice vid!
Don't think space AMERICA. think space French Republic.
nice video but i feel there was a lot of stuff left out even for a 44-45 min presentation. here's some interesting snippets from what i recall of the Gallente lore (some may be outdated or weren't true on the first place but still):
-the Intaki are the most spiritual division inside the faction( they even believe in reincarnation without using cloning tech) but sadly are also the most pacifist and the least protected by the government (thus see the rise of the Syndicate) with many of their territories being classified as Lowsec
-the Mannar are a minor group that isnt mentioned as much as they're not playable compared to the other three but they are very leaning to the nationalist wing of the senate and if the old lore about them hasnt changed, they may have had some hispanic blood at some point during the colonization era much as how the Gallente were descendants from french colonists
-Jin Mei are basically "chinese" and like Intaki they are more leaning towards peacefull resoluton to conflicts albeit with a more oportunistic and communal approach (prosperity and freedom to operate to improve your life with hard work and smart decisions), surprisingly enough the current Jin Mei were actually one of many people living in their homeplanet but they removed other ethnic groups either by assimilation or by birth control so only their kind remained and even then they divided the population in a caste system which has proven problematic at times on their membership inside the federation. to make it more interesting they were discovered recently, being already space borne when the Gallenteans arrived to welcome them (the Jin Mei had even prepared an armada with their most advanced warships at the time of contact just in case but they are basically on par with the federation scouting party)
-one of the Amarrian Royal Heirs was in love with a gallentean, according to one of the latest chronicles Uriam Kador invaded Solitude (see the Quantum Rise trailer) because he wanted to be with some woman he met there and thus looked to claim the region for himself. sadly the woman died and when Catiz Tash-Murkon rose as empress he tried to bring the ashes of his lover to the sacrificial site in order to die together under the light of the lord
-as i see it the Amarr aren't hostile to the Gallente due to personal vendettas but due to their idea as it may remind them of the ancient Udorians which lived in their homeplanet during the pre-space era of the empire. the Udorians were very open and libertarian while also focusing heavily on trade rather than warfare, sounds plenty Gallentean to me
-the corrupt practices and opression inside the government are one of the reasons the Serpentis and the Syndicate arose to power. the original Serpentis Corporation started as a pharmaceutical company but got punished by the government due to the discovery of boosters, meanwhile the Syndicate arose as a response to the federal government not doing its job to ensure the security of the Intaki in the fringes of the federation and actually punishing them from trying to take matters by themselves (no one in Syndicate can settle on their planets, they have to live on the stations solely)
-the Gallente are blamed for the creation of the Rogue Drones, cant remember if it was a mistake done by CreoDron or another company but their obsession with automation led to the creation of self aware machinery which has been a stone in the shoe for the whole cluster ever since
-the federation got its gate technology by reverse engineering the remains of the Yan Jung stargates that were still intact in their systems, some people even argue that the Jin-Mei are related to them but their home system (Lirsautton) is actually very far from the place that is generally believed to be the place of origin of the Yan Jung
-CreoDron is one of its greatest corporations and was actually birthed by a single guy (see the Old Man's Star chronicle) which survived a voyage to settle a stargate network by himself after the crew suffered and accident, having created lots of drones to help him with the job of SETTING THE FUCKNG STARGATE TO WORK in order to get back home
Jin Mei is me : D And sounds very caldarian
I recognize this is a year old comment but, the Jin-mei are of the "hawks" political wing of the Federation (a.k.a the warmongers/nationalists/aggressive duds along with the Mannar)
This guy sounds really knowledgeable... you should have him on more often!
he is, just check his channel, he is promi in EvE ;)
czcams.com/channels/cF6-wAlyiRLXW57_x9YwJQ.html
awesome video. are we going to get one for each faction with your guest here?
Yep indeed ..the Gallente was originally the French
AMARR VICTOR!!
I love these.
Thank you
Really liked. This
Thumbs up! But it would be very nice to make a sort of summary, in writing, for those who don't have 45 minutes to listen to this. Nice work!
nice lore vids, is there an amarr one?
Awesome listening while doing other boring stuff :)
Good video.
oh hell yes loar
damnit I just got friccin beaned
20:50 my exact thought the day after the 2020 US election.
i listened to your caladari lore and it may make me defect to Gallente fed
Caldari State are a bunch of cartels in pirate lords anyway.
Hey Jin'Taan! What are some of your ideas for new ship types that could be added to the game, even if you think their implementation could challenge the current state of the meta or just be generally unfeasible. Thanks!
I've always said there needs to be a ship-based cyno inhib, which would have been a better solution than the cyno rework at least IMO - I'm all for giving people more offensive tools, as I think that's far more fun than taking away defensive ones outright.
Faction Destroyers would also be great, especially if they were only available in Lowsec to give that area of space it's own unique resource to export :)
@@Jintaan CYNO INHIB PLATFORMS! That's genius! I'm adding this to my list. Do you think a new line of T2 Battleships would most fit the role?
I already have two main ideas for Navy Dessies, which I can share with you if you'd like.
I actually think you'd want to put anti-cyno platforms on a smaller class of ships to encourage people to bring Cruisers/Destroyers in their compositions as well as captials/Battleships. I've always maintained that there needs to be more reasons to diversify ship/hull types in compositions.
I've got my own ideas for Navy Dessies, but having shared them with CCP I don't think there's much appetite to actually ever do it.
@@Jintaan I get where you're coming from but Hictors Logis and Force Recons are already pretty important for fleet comps, as well as the ubiquity of HACs and, well T3Cs are T3Cs. Honestly I would prefer the CIP to be tankier and have greater mass in order to discourage it from being headshot in fleet to fleet pvp and also to make it harder to roam in.
You _WANT_ a cyno nullification ship to be good to roam with though, no?
Ultimately the main thing that needs to be fixed is the super/capital problem, as I addressed in my video on the matter, as without that being changed we can't see the subcap meta shift to self-correct away from "Things that can dodge Bosons" always being better than "Things that can't dodge Bosons" which makes BS' inherently irrelevant.
Slightly wrong. It was the Caldari State corporations that started the war by firing on the Gallente Navy and conducting pirate raids stealing vital resources necessary for the Federation. The Gallente Federation only responded after high casualties had been caused by the corporations. Caldari weren't just innocent civilians trying to start their own private colonies.
Gallente propaganda
@@somethingblank1589 In addition Caldari terrorists carried out a number of devastating attacks like the bombing of the underwater city Nouvelle Rouvenor that killed millions of people. This provoked the response to orbital strike Insurgent hotspots on Caldari Prime.
When the Gallente firsst meet the Amarr what was the technology that each of of them didn't have that scared the other?
The Gallente used warp drives, which the Amarr didn't have - And the Amarr used Cynos, which the Gallente didn't have.
@@Jintaan The cynos i can understand but the amarr not having warpdrives I cannot. So they just slowboated around? Did they at least have afterburners? Thanks for the reply :).
@@MaximillianRed the Gallente lived in the same system as the Caldari so early on trade between the two benifitted greatly from quick intra planetary travel. the amarr could bear with a few hours wait for a slower craft to get planet to planet, and didnt have the drive to invent such a thing.
funny fact, what we call the warp drive is actually called a "jump drive", and the act of using jump drives for intra system travel is a much newer concept than in-system travel.
do more lore stuff bro! :D
Different Species? I thought these were all descendants of humans basically?
This is so far in the future thats how it be. Even people on this planet are different species of human, its simple evolutionary changes from the last generations and environment that make the difference.
@@lostdog5005 Maybe you should check out the definition of species.
Maybe you need a brush up... "a group of living organisms consisting of similar individuals capable of exchanging genes or interbreeding. The species is the principal natural taxonomic unit, ranking below a genus and denoted by a Latin binomial, e.g. Homo sapiens."
More then just homo sapiens
How do you even find out this information ~
Can't find nothing within the game itself :/
The Chronicles and Short Stories are the main source of information for Eve Lore, you can also gleam a small amount of information from news reports.
Here's some links (not sure if Jin'Taan filters them out;
Chronicles: community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/
Short Stories: fiction.eveonline.com/stories/short-stories
Game News: community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/
@@1adog1 THankies! :D good to know =]
I love Ash but damn some of these pronunciations really bothered me xD
25:42
Took you long enough... XD
imagine this meta
people living under a republican government which runs parallel to the 'gallente federation' are asking eachother what it's like to live in this dystopia of a virtual world
this is something out of a 1970s Soviet satire
Anyone else hear a discord notification around 14 minutes?
Jin why dont you do more stuff like this
Not as popular as news, and it can be hard to get a hold of people as superduper smart as Ashterothi to talk about the lore - I'm trying to see if we can do all 4 empires, then go from there into other subjects, like the Jove and history of Capsuleers/How they work!
Wish that you had done more of this type of thing, without Ashterothi.
what are the major corporations in the Federation and what does the government and the general population think of all them?
The Federation runs a lot of Public-Private partnerships, so corporations are hired by the Federation through a lowest bidder process, similar to how the American government functions in that sense. There are a few major ones, such as CreoDron
(Drone people, sorta accidentally created the Rogue Drones but we don't talk about that), Duvolle Laboratories
(SCIENCE, DRUGS AND CATGIRLS) & Roden Shipyards
(Definitely not a proxy for the President's personal military interests). But they're also home to groups like The Scope (IC News) and Impetus (Best porn in the cluster).
It's a wide spectrum but generally their corporations are well regarded in the Federation, as they're handled semi-strictly by the government and are ok-ish places to work, unlike certain Caldari megacorporations.
I love how wonderfully uneducated those videos are about the real world political philosophy 😂 , besides that, they are really entertaining though
Gallenete lore is extremely rich and nuanced, and i don't think your video...and particularly your guest...did it any justice. You guys literally just glossed over the first 900 years of Gallentean history...
Not up to par with your usual quality at all. I've been playing less than six months and I could have told the lore better.
There's a lot of factual inconsistencies in it ta-boot!
Why are you putting oppression by the Gallente in quotation as if its not real oppression? They litterally show up to other civilizations worlds and force themselves and their agenda onto them by force regardless if they want it or not. The Caldari simply said no thanks, we value diligence, honor, strictness and order in our society as oppose to freedom with chaos and the Gallente refused to accept this. And those values weren't something that got forced onto the Caldari people by the corporations, it was their core identity from the start. The corporations simply evolved to be the best frames to uphold up those values.