Learn Stormzy's British English Accent | Multicultural London English

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  • čas přidán 7. 02. 2019
  • Stormzy is one of the biggest talents in British music today! In this English lesson we look at his accent and how it represents modern day London. It's called Multicultural London English and it's the accent of young people in and around London today. We look at his pronunciation and vocabulary choice and we compare it to Ed Sheeran's. Enjoy!
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Komentáře • 828

  • @anemyclake1256
    @anemyclake1256 Před 4 lety +568

    Hey guys, Daniel Radcliffe looks a bit different today

  • @OngoingDiscovery
    @OngoingDiscovery Před 5 lety +185

    Its interesting that the example u use is of Stormzy taking to someone who uses RP, which innevitably means he measures his language to be understood. If you watch a 5 pound munch or Chicken connoisseur (who actually speaks a pretty odd idiolect of MLE) you can hear a more 'all-out' MLE full of all the slang and colloquialisms. One that I love is replacing words like "him" "his" "I" "my" and "mine" with the word "man" or "mans". for example, "His shoes are amazing" becomes "Man's creps are/is sick."
    Another phoneme u left out is the replacement of θ for t in words like "thing" which often become "ting". E.g. "I was acting crazy" becomes "Man was on a mad ting".
    There's so much to this dialect, and for me growing up with a contemporary RP in North London and having half of my friends speak in MLE and half in a lower middle class contemporary RP I was very familiar with this accent, as well as the classism surrounding it, within London, but even more so outside of it. This accent is often derided as ugly or unsophisticated by middle class people across the country, the word 'Chav' (which people say means Council Housed and Violent) is used to describe people who use the accent. Despite this it has many grammatical nuances that can't be expressed by other dialects of English. The same can be said about AAV in the US. This accent and the people who speak it are a massive source of London, and by extension, British culture nowadays and I think non-working class people should have more respect for it.

    • @Koraxus
      @Koraxus Před 4 lety +11

      MAN'S NOT HOT

    • @Dynamite125
      @Dynamite125 Před 4 lety +8

      As a guy from a working class family in North London living in a council estate I couldn't agree more

    • @isaacjeter9468
      @isaacjeter9468 Před 4 lety +17

      It is odd how the MLE differs from north to south London even among the same ethnicity and cultural background. I lived in south London, sounds different from north. Even the distance between Peckham and Croydon sound different if you pay attention

    • @scruvydom
      @scruvydom Před 3 lety +19

      Nuff respecc for this comment 👌🏻 I study linguistics and the hate people show for MLE is literally nothing but old skool classism and racism

    • @livb6945
      @livb6945 Před 3 lety

      @@isaacjeter9468 linguistically it doesn't seem that odd, considering how many different current influences there are. I would also think that speakers of an accent like RP would more or less try to conserve their way of speaking (not necessarily consciously).

  • @simonyip8571
    @simonyip8571 Před 2 lety +19

    Some people use innit as a reply.
    "That new Stormzy tune is on fire innit?"
    "Innit"

  • @sinuhezarzuelero6054
    @sinuhezarzuelero6054 Před 3 lety +30

    One thing I noticed that you didn't mention was the way he pronounced the 'ng' at the end of 'everything'. He pronounced it like 'every-fink'. With a very hard, noticeable 'nk' sound with extra stress on the 'k'.

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 3 lety +13

      Excellent observation Sinuhe, you are right he does do that and that's a feature of some MLE and Cockney speakers.

  • @hcassells66
    @hcassells66 Před 4 lety +106

    I grew up with MLE and it's more of a spectrum, you can have a very strong MLE accent with slang, you can be in the middle somewhere like me or you can be closer to rp/cockney. I can change where I am on the spectrum and also switch into Jamaican patois on demand. Also a lot of MLE speakers would pronounce the TH at the start of word like the, this, that, though but pronounce it as F/V everywhere else, some people like me pronounce the TH fully in all words. So it really does vary depending on your social background or your social setting. I make the choice to pronounce the THs because I feel like TH fronting would make me sound a bit like I have a child's speech impediment I haven't grown out of

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 4 lety +20

      Thanks Howard, really appreciate your insight into your experience of MLE. Totally agree accents are on a spectrum and MLE is no different 👍🏼

    • @Pete-tq6in
      @Pete-tq6in Před 3 lety +7

      RP and cockney are at the opposite ends of another spectrum, they are in no way similar.

    • @notfiremelon
      @notfiremelon Před 3 lety +1

      @@EatSleepDreamEnglish ur on the spectrum? mad

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 Před 2 lety +2

      Yep. I grew up with it from mid-90s and I just used what didnt sound too cringe. I hated the girls that used too much and forced it. Grime magnified it in 2000. We called it chavvy. Dunno why people call it roadman when it is literally just chavs. They try to make it sound more hard and trendy by relabelling it.

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 Před 2 lety +1

      Also its about code-switching. I used to use words with my mum out of habit and she didnt understand. Ha

  • @Michelle-rd9uv
    @Michelle-rd9uv Před 3 lety +125

    found this interesting especially the dropping of the "th" sounds. britain, particularly london, is made up of so many immigrant groups that don't necessarily have the "th" sound in their native languages. i also think it was important to stress the heavy influence of jamaican patois on this dialect

    • @actionbarbie1
      @actionbarbie1 Před 2 lety +7

      I grew up in London (Irish parents - native English speakers). I am very well educated but I literally can’t make a “th” sound when I say words like “thought”.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Před 2 lety

      ​@@actionbarbie1: ​Why, Louise? I was reared and bred in London, educated there in my impressionable "programming" years, the ultimate Cockney, but had to pronounce and provide, practically, a PR style as a UK to the US (NY) ex-pat. If you travel, you will need to do this.

    • @actionbarbie1
      @actionbarbie1 Před 2 lety +1

      @eddyvideostar you are better than me. I simply could not do that. I’m sure my experience of trying is pretty extensive in the scheme of things. I’m 45 years old and still living abroad even now I can’t do it.

    • @toade1583
      @toade1583 Před 11 měsíci

      @@actionbarbie1 I mean Irish English speakers also don't pronounce the "th" sound traditionally(they use a gaelic slit/dental T) so that actually makes sense.

  • @theundertaker6565
    @theundertaker6565 Před 5 lety +4

    I’m not a learner of yours but I follow your videos, glad you’re using Stormzy as a way to teach British English to your students :)

  • @dnstone1127
    @dnstone1127 Před 4 lety +593

    The whole of England will speak like this mid century, innit.

    • @theduke6174
      @theduke6174 Před 4 lety +28

      Can't wait

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 Před 4 lety +31

      @Christiano Vasconcelos oh c'mon, don't be that guy

    • @beejj6190
      @beejj6190 Před 4 lety +12

      Note this is not the mix of all the OP says. The accent is originally FAR more influenced by the old Jamaican accent than any other culture (hence the term 'Jafaican') but is metamorphasizing into an even more unique take. Other ethnicities are just running with it and adding their own ethnic verbal features, that's all.

    • @tomwright9904
      @tomwright9904 Před 4 lety +1

      @Christiano Vasconcelos there won't be any third world countries by then hopefully...

    • @RendererEP
      @RendererEP Před 4 lety +15

      Unfortunately

  • @haleemareneeghani446
    @haleemareneeghani446 Před 3 lety +112

    Growing up in London you learn to change your accent depending on who you’re engaging with. Yes some of us have MLE accents but we can easily pronounce our words correctly which changes our accent if for example we were in an environment that requires it such as work. We have the ability to switch it up sometimes 🤷🏽‍♀️ which makes us unique😇

    • @marcodiepold2065
      @marcodiepold2065 Před 3 lety +13

      That is pretty common in areas with different cultures and groups. I am myself from Germany and you would also switch between youth slang, standard german and working class dialect

    • @eleonoracucciarelli4773
      @eleonoracucciarelli4773 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes same in Italy

    • @miwrendi1457
      @miwrendi1457 Před 3 lety +7

      In America a lot of kids (like me especially since I'm a minority) also do this. We use a lot of slang talking with our friends and in informal situations. For example, a lot of African American kids sound ghetto or southern when we speak informally. Hispanics usually have a more pronounced accent when they speak informally too. In formal situations like school or work we speak proper English. It's nothing new. Basically everyone does it

    • @abibroadfield5387
      @abibroadfield5387 Před 3 lety +9

      yeah exactly my accent is south london but i can make it posh if i need to😂

    • @WeHaveTheRansom
      @WeHaveTheRansom Před 3 lety +10

      Literally every country does this. British people swear they special

  • @Acer0306
    @Acer0306 Před rokem +11

    That's really the thing every English learner need, to hear different accents. Thanks for your job, Tom!

  • @tatilopez4906
    @tatilopez4906 Před 5 lety +70

    OMG! This’s great! Nobody is teaching this as you are!!! Thanks a lot Tom 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 5 lety +11

      Hehe YES Tati! Why doesn't anyone else teach this real English? I'm so glad you enjoyed it : )

  • @sararashid6317
    @sararashid6317 Před 5 lety +10

    It's really really amazing to get to know about the accents.Thanks a lot , Cheif dreamer.The video with Joel and Lea was also great.

  • @gloriaanaruma1279
    @gloriaanaruma1279 Před 5 lety +3

    I fond you Chanel yesterday on youtube. I am learning a higher English thanks to you, and I am reviewing your older posts. I have a higher Portuguese, no dirty words and polite, it is unusual in my country, so, in your language English I don't accept less, your Chanel is helping me very much. Many and many thanks. I have double nationality (Italy and Brazilian) From Brazil, Thank you

  • @dianagarcia6350
    @dianagarcia6350 Před 5 lety +13

    Love your videos and loooove Stormzy so this video was SOMETHING ELSE! Great work Tom xx

  • @dreamer4957
    @dreamer4957 Před 5 lety +15

    yeah! accent!! im actually so addicted to accents! please do more❤

  • @MamiYankeeMusic
    @MamiYankeeMusic Před 3 lety +1

    this is such a good video, we overlook alot of these little things in the MLE accent but u tackled the little bits and bobs of it and its helping me now lol

  • @mennahelbardesy1734
    @mennahelbardesy1734 Před 5 lety +5

    oh Tom, that was awesome!
    you know what, i'm speaking american English but recently i got some MLE accent without knowing that, actually that's because of dealing with British people every day at work, but now i understood that's MLE, thanks mate!

    • @BNJT
      @BNJT Před rokem

      Same for me. I usually deal with British customers at work but I had a Puerto Rican guy on the phone and it took me a while to adjust haha. Really nice accent though

  • @walterwhite5578
    @walterwhite5578 Před 5 lety

    Good video, I like the fact that you are touching on all aspect of speech. From RP to MLE. Keep up the good work and you have a subscriber for life and since I am eternal you have me forever.

  • @Sauvageonne
    @Sauvageonne Před 3 lety +4

    Great video! He said "everythink" "rememba". I'm not learning English, but love watching your videos.

  • @nry1037
    @nry1037 Před 3 lety

    Awwww thanks loads for this amazing video💕💕💕

  • @sinuhezarzuelero6054
    @sinuhezarzuelero6054 Před 3 lety +3

    I specifically wanted a video analysing Stormzy's accent, and I was not disappointed.

  • @lizbethsanmartin7001
    @lizbethsanmartin7001 Před 3 lety +5

    I have a presentation for college and this video helped me so much! It has everything, thanks for making it.

  • @janaaj1an889
    @janaaj1an889 Před 2 lety +9

    Loved your piece. I have such a headache from analyzing YOUR dialect while you were analyzing HIS dialect (standard American English speaker with degrees in English, Linguistics, and Speech Pathology). Definitely keep it up. Love your enthusiasm.

  • @ednabaimba3632
    @ednabaimba3632 Před 2 lety

    I need this... God bless. Been searching for this typa accent. Finally got it

  • @Ottosyn10
    @Ottosyn10 Před rokem +2

    As someone who is from the states who pick up Accent easily, watching your videos have deff helped in scenario where in the past, I would have been lost . So thanks a lot ! 😆

  • @gonzalezmagali6960
    @gonzalezmagali6960 Před 5 lety +3

    This series is amazing

  • @calireu
    @calireu Před 5 lety +41

    In spanish we say at the end of a sentence “, verdad “.

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 5 lety +9

      Ahhh yes! That's a really interesting comparison, thanks Carlos : )

    • @calireu
      @calireu Před 5 lety +3

      Eat Sleep Dream English Let me tell you that we often say “vaah” instead of verdad

    • @mundano3843
      @mundano3843 Před 5 lety +1

      @@calireu but It depends on what spanish speaking country you are from

    • @OngoingDiscovery
      @OngoingDiscovery Před 5 lety +4

      in Japanese the sentence ending "ne" basically means the exact same thing as "innit"

    • @tomwright9904
      @tomwright9904 Před 4 lety

      Word

  • @SuperChiko
    @SuperChiko Před 5 lety +1

    This is a beautiful video 🔥🔥⭐

  • @drewskii44
    @drewskii44 Před rokem

    This is so cool!! Thank you!!

  • @brianrichards6508
    @brianrichards6508 Před 5 lety +1

    It was so cool, thanks!

  • @zaippiaz
    @zaippiaz Před 3 lety +3

    Ahhh this breakdown of MLE is sick! I like it

  • @legoyoda256
    @legoyoda256 Před 3 lety +11

    Hes analyzing my accent its throwing me offff fam

  • @Exor840
    @Exor840 Před 4 lety +130

    This accent has been around since the 1970s in Hackney and Brixton , it’s nothing new tbh

    • @synthaly4663
      @synthaly4663 Před 4 lety +6

      Swabian Knotty
      Mainly South and North London boroughs too.

    • @dominadors4795
      @dominadors4795 Před 4 lety +22

      Very late reply I know : the interesting thing is that this accent is now fully formed due to it being used by people born in the UK. The big wave of immigration during the Windrush generation developed some of these features of the accent, but the interesting thing about the MLE is that it is now used by pretty much anyone in those areas of London, from immigrant backgrounds or not. It is now tied more to area rather than culture. Interesting point I read in research is that it is actually a " home grown" accent. The slang is often Jamaican, but the vast majority of the sounds and words don't have clear origins. Its a real melting pot!

    • @georgef1936
      @georgef1936 Před 4 lety +3

      That's true. Innit is definitely not new. Jamaican patois has also had quite a heavy influence, for example on replacing 'them' with 'dem'..

    • @livb6945
      @livb6945 Před 3 lety +1

      What's new, I guess, is that it's spreading among people with slightly different backgrounds. I mean, these days a guy like Richard Osman uses "innit"

    • @13strong
      @13strong Před 3 lety +3

      It's changed since the 70s. Just listen to young people in Hackney.

  • @missingbmore
    @missingbmore Před 4 lety +3

    I am from Baltimore and this is a very common way of speaking but mainly in low or middle class economy areas. This has been this was since I was a a child. I grew up in East Baltimore and have been saying innit for years. Many words with the “th” ending are pronounced as an “f”. Bath / Baff for example. Sometimes even in the middle. Catholic / caflick. One such phrase - I ain’t got nothing ... that’s probably the worst.

  • @ramirahrouh7587
    @ramirahrouh7587 Před 5 lety

    I love you Tom ; just keep goin on

  • @FernandoGuarany
    @FernandoGuarany Před 3 lety +15

    "Everything" becomes "everyfink"

  • @escapeLDN
    @escapeLDN Před 4 lety +22

    Was hoping you'd pick up on 'everyfink' in place of 'everything', same happens with 'anything' too. Only a small one but still kinda interesting.

    • @Targivod
      @Targivod Před 3 lety +1

      As far as I know it was already in Cockney.

    • @danw1374
      @danw1374 Před 3 lety

      That's very cockney

    • @janJasenwa
      @janJasenwa Před 3 lety

      I've always liked the pronunciation of "something" as closer to "summit" but that might just be a cockney thing to begin with.

  • @ElGuapo4000
    @ElGuapo4000 Před 3 lety +26

    I’m so glad and proud he’s talking about my accent, growing up in London, nowadays especially, you’ll find the vast majority of people who are 30 and under speak this way, (white British people included) I’ve seen loads of creators on this platform just call anyone with this accent a ‘roadman’ which is just so misleading and jarring to hear if you grew up in London and have this kind of accent because it’s not the case. Also we all tend to be ‘fluent’ in Received Pronunciation aswell for job interviews mainly lol.

    • @spumeeuw430
      @spumeeuw430 Před 2 lety +4

      So you just speak broken English on purpose?

    • @ElGuapo4000
      @ElGuapo4000 Před 2 lety +11

      @@spumeeuw430 it’s not broken English at all and it’s just our natural accent, why is that so impossible for you to comprehend?

    • @xza5687
      @xza5687 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ElGuapo4000 the real London accent is cockney. This multicultural accent is not traditional. It was made for immigrants who couldn't be bothered to learn our language.

    • @ElGuapo4000
      @ElGuapo4000 Před 2 lety +4

      @@xza5687 okay so this comment is devoid of any kind of intellectual content or education so I have to deconstruct it.
      Firstly if you had even one iota of knowledge about how dialects and accents work, you’d have the acute awareness that they are literally ever changing and evolving, constantly, non stop, so to say that the evolution of an accent is ‘not traditional’ is just silly.
      Second of all your racially and xenophobic charged comment on it being some sort of creation designed for ‘lazy’ immigrants? My friend, half of the people who speak with an MLE accent aren’t from immediate immigrant backgrounds for starters, much like myself. Moreover it is literally just an accent, while of course it has slang words, we still speak the exact same English as you do.
      Your opinion is so idiotic and nonsensical, I bet you aren’t even from London, but still feel like you’re entitled to tell us what our ‘real’ accent is, because your parents were born on this island and some of ours weren’t… you wallad. Read a book or five. You need it, and get used to MLE because it’s the voice of your future leaders, like it or not fella.
      (Btw how can a dialect, regionally originating
      in only one part of London, which was heavily influenced by the working class communities of Essex be considered a ‘true’ accent to represent an entire city?)

    • @xza5687
      @xza5687 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ElGuapo4000 I am actually from London. I just don't think we should change our accent for immigrants. The English people who speak "mle" are just trying to fit in. It even has "multicultural" in its name. So it wasn't made for English people.

  • @koinorbert
    @koinorbert Před 5 lety +5

    So SICK!! My new favourite accent. I'm gonna learn that.

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 5 lety +1

      Hehehe awesome! Good luck Norbert : )

    • @koinorbert
      @koinorbert Před 5 lety

      @@EatSleepDreamEnglish Oh, mate! I'm surprised I didn't think that you'll be answer to me. You're the best teacher, innit?😂 I'm from Hungary. If you live in London, why don't you speak with the mle accent? And do you know channels that deal with mostly with mle?

    • @ey1806
      @ey1806 Před 4 lety +3

      @@koinorbert The MLE accent isn't spoken by everyone in London, only a certain demographic (usually young people). As a Brit, unless you live in London, most of our exposure to the MLE accent is through music, so I would suggest listening to contemporary artists that come from London as most will have the accent and use MLE slang in their music.

  • @Marilynlov5
    @Marilynlov5 Před 5 lety +28

    The "v" sound in either, would that apply to Catherine Tate's character Laren when she says bovverd instead of bothered?
    One of these videos would be really interesting with Catherine Tate's characters!

  • @afrobrook9602
    @afrobrook9602 Před 5 lety +1

    Such a sick video tom! I suggest that it would be great if u make a review about the new vocabulary/slang/highlight and the meaning like oh my days/innit/bruv at the end of the video. Thanks tom.

  • @Adaapa65
    @Adaapa65 Před 5 lety

    I love all your lessons

  • @nickknatterton7200
    @nickknatterton7200 Před 5 lety

    Great work mate

  • @Neroshi-Interactive
    @Neroshi-Interactive Před 4 lety +117

    Multicultural accent? Sounds like south London

  • @Gxbriel8
    @Gxbriel8 Před 11 měsíci

    Tom,ty soo much,i was not sure if i was trying to stay with my American or British accent,but after this, I'm gonna smash my MLE accent 😊

  • @terryfang
    @terryfang Před 5 lety +3

    Tom, could you please tell me what did u do to make your eyes look so pretty

  • @mamymimma
    @mamymimma Před 5 lety +16

    He seems to be rapping while he speaks, he's rhythmical 😊 thanks Tom, very useful !

  • @christopherrivera116
    @christopherrivera116 Před 3 lety +1

    I think I’m ready for my interview

  • @VivienOge
    @VivienOge Před 3 lety +3

    5:16 I love how Ed Sheeran adjusted in relaxation to enjoy the gist 🤔🤦‍♀️

  • @rb7007
    @rb7007 Před 3 lety +10

    Don Cheadle really needed to watch this video, before he played the Brit character in Oceans Eleven. 😂
    I’ve noticed that foreign people (especially Americans) can never master a British MLE accent!

    • @13strong
      @13strong Před 3 lety +2

      He was playing a cockney though.

  • @josemrivero3544
    @josemrivero3544 Před 5 lety +3

    You're a legend Tom

  • @duqueedits
    @duqueedits Před 2 lety

    Thanks for explaining that.

  • @Swampzoid
    @Swampzoid Před 5 lety +12

    Innit is interesting. I never heard of it before but then I've never been to England. One day soon I hope.

  • @basarkarakus
    @basarkarakus Před 5 lety

    I really like this learn english with series

  • @maryjenniferpayne103
    @maryjenniferpayne103 Před 4 lety +7

    It's Sawf London. Simple. Madness breaking it down like this.

  • @TheHelix123
    @TheHelix123 Před 3 lety +2

    i love my isn't it . I am keeping it thank you very much.

  • @alagiedarboe3419
    @alagiedarboe3419 Před 3 lety

    Best video ever greeting from Germany

  • @EthansCONN
    @EthansCONN Před 4 lety +2

    I use "Innit" as well, not as much as "know what I mean" but I do use it.

  • @oumardaff5823
    @oumardaff5823 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much

  • @atalanta4082
    @atalanta4082 Před 4 lety +61

    A lot of people in the UK have a problem with this accent because a lot of the time it is spoken by British people of Black and Asian descent. That's why you see a lot of snarky comments in the comments section of this video

    • @artsed08
      @artsed08 Před 2 lety +1

      It's mainly because it sounds so awful - it's actually worse hearing it spoken by white people, because it just sounds so wrong coming out of their mouths.

    • @tuesdayschild8994
      @tuesdayschild8994 Před 2 lety +1

      But because of music and how influential black immigrants and the next generation of young people have been, it is spoken by other younger people too across the UK in prominently white areas. You'll hear Jack Graelish speak this way sometimes it is everywhere. Don't know why it bothers people souch, mainly how most speak to their mates.

  • @lizarken2390
    @lizarken2390 Před 5 lety +4

    First comment 😁. Your videos help me a lot. Thanks 👍❤️

  • @BritBike60
    @BritBike60 Před 3 lety

    Great work.

  • @crenatojls
    @crenatojls Před 5 lety

    Nice one!!!!👍🏽

  • @ourprinciplesinfo3719
    @ourprinciplesinfo3719 Před 5 lety +31

    This video is sick fam! haha. I've been learning MLE from ArsenalFanTV all these years hahaha. Again, this video is brilliant! Keep it up man!

  • @pgpratt9007
    @pgpratt9007 Před 3 lety +19

    The top beauty of the English Language is that it never stands still. I love it

  • @akotoedwin7567
    @akotoedwin7567 Před rokem

    Oh my days🥰

  • @vitalydavydov5049
    @vitalydavydov5049 Před 5 lety

    I think this glottal t stuff is quite consistent, actually. It might depend on whether a syllable is stressed (the it is retained) or not (dropped). It’s just my impression, I could be wrong as I’m not not a native speaker.

  • @beklemeyapmacaykoy3938
    @beklemeyapmacaykoy3938 Před 3 lety +1

    I moved to London. I'm so confused because of the v sound. Some people say t , and f. I don't know which one to use and how do you say 'the' you know the 'th' sound.

  • @DarkAngel2512
    @DarkAngel2512 Před 2 lety +2

    Stormzy is like a newer gen accent than the one we had in the mid-90s. We spoke patwa and used a London accent but we called accents like Stormzy chavvy. Nowadays they call it roadman. Mid-90s MLE was more Jamaican in origin and less chavvy. Its when UKG and grime came out that the accents got thicker.

    • @kamalaharriss5650
      @kamalaharriss5650 Před 2 lety

      you didnt spole patwa you spoke a bristish with patwa words in it patwais a lanuguage

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 Před 2 lety

      @@kamalaharriss5650 yep

  • @nba123ize
    @nba123ize Před 5 lety

    That change in the pronunciation of the TH it’s easy than original

  • @erickfreeze
    @erickfreeze Před 5 lety +13

    Brilliant! I always try to teach my students the standard rules but I also try to raise awareness that not all the time they must use this type of English, specially informally. Can you make a video about Sleaford Mods? I think they're from Nottingham and the features of pronunciation are challenging for me.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 Před 2 lety

      Grantham. But a close accent.

    • @v00n2000
      @v00n2000 Před 2 lety

      T! C!! R!!!
      Total control raciiiin....

  • @AlexNwankwo-gw2rz
    @AlexNwankwo-gw2rz Před rokem

    Pls kindly make tutorials on south London accent

  • @jimferreiro9863
    @jimferreiro9863 Před 4 lety

    Hi, love you channel! Could you do Geordie? :)

  • @jwb52z9
    @jwb52z9 Před 5 lety

    I never would have thought about "innit" replacing every auxiliary. These kinds of things make me wonder if English will be identifiable a century or 2 from now as what we know it as now. You didn't mention his use of an infinitive instead of a conditional type tense, "hoped you to be" vs "hoped you would be". Is this something more common to British dialects also?

  • @ahmedfarhan843
    @ahmedfarhan843 Před 3 lety +1

    Tom,, really your accent is very beautiful & strong. So I follow your cockney accent. I am from Bangladesh but I would like to speak like British people.

  • @nadiahm4939
    @nadiahm4939 Před 5 lety +4

    Like before watching😃👌💙

  • @DomoniqueMusiclover
    @DomoniqueMusiclover Před 3 lety +1

    I like his talk. A few characteristics similar to some American English

  • @jchisholm1968
    @jchisholm1968 Před 2 lety +1

    We were using the term, innit, back in the later 80s & early 90s. Nothing new there I'm afraid!

  • @somekid7
    @somekid7 Před 3 lety +7

    What's crazy to me is that I've never been to London but this helped me understand and feel more comfortable with the confusion surrounding my own accent as a working-class Korean-American born in the US to immigrant parents.
    I grew up around other Asian-Americans, a lot of whom were from working class families who used what's now known as AAVE (African-American Vernacular English). I was in ESL (English as a Second Language) remedial classes with some of them for a short while, but I excelled beyond most of my peers in academic English very quickly. However, family issues and financial struggles prevented me from going to university, so I entered the working class. I then started picking up Spanish and got used to the phonetics of it to the point where using it on a daily basis with Spanish-speaking immigrants for several years changed my accent drastically, including what phrases and words I use. A lot of the phonetics matched Korean phonetics, which made it easier. Then of course, I've been surrounded by a lot of working class Black-American/African-American people who have thick accents.
    It's hard to deal with all this at once, but the fact that Multicultural London English is something that's talked about makes me wonder why the US can't have something similar. I mean, I'm not saying we should get rid of AAVE. I just hope that other cultures aren't swept under the rug because in conversations about AAVE, it seems people are constantly pitting us against each other by trying to label non-Black/African people as fake or "culture-vultures" if they speak some form of the accent. What bothers me most is that I've noticed AAVE borrows a lot from Spanish phonetics and grammar, but that isn't talked about.
    We need a Multicultural Accent in the US. Considering the fact that Mexican, Central American, South American and Southeast Asian populations make up just as much of the working class and impoverished population as Black-American/African-American folks, it's safe to say that they're part of the culture and language too. Again, AAVE should be kept alive and respected, but we need to move forward even more.
    The Hmong and Vietnamese folks I grew up with went through a lot of shit that people typically associate with Black/African folks in the US, like gang-violence, heavy drugs, poverty, etc. Come to find out, the Hmong population has been the single most marginalized group in the US for the past few decades in poverty, income and education, below every other ethnicity, followed by other Southeast-Asians. This isn't a way of saying other ethnic groups can't complain. This is to fight against the harmful "model minority" myth that people use as a weapon against other marginalized people, especially Black/African folks. Just because East-Asians are relatively successful does not mean other immigrants and minorities are lazy. Also, Southeast-Asians are suffering while people assume they're doing fine just cause they get lumped in with other Asians. What most people don't know is that Asians were banned from immigrating to the US for half a century, then only highly-skilled Asians were allowed in, thus creating a population of overqualified Asian-Americans who added to the surplus labor pool, yet weren't promoted to positions of power despite this, most likely due to discrimination. Meanwhile, Southeast-Asians have been facing the same human-rights issues as other minorities, like with unfair deportation, police brutality, discrimination in jobs and housing, etc.
    At the end of the day, the fact that accents are being accepted is helping the fight against classism from the wealthy who inherited most of their wealth. Language is ever-changing, and to police language by an arbitrary set of rules only oppresses those who are not fortunate enough to be invited into the elite. Let's hope more progress is made, so we might have a fighting chance at having fair opportunities for all of us, instead of pretending that everything's equal now just cause it was unspeakably horrible a few decades ago.

    • @thezu9250
      @thezu9250 Před 3 lety +2

      I think some of the protective attitudes around AAVE come from a history of purposefully erasing black American culture. Its like how people dont trust the police even if they are better now. Trauma makes it hard for people to look at things logically. Especially when the people speaking in AAVE come from cultures that have strong Anti Black sentiments. So it makes you feel weird like people are putting on a costume.
      But I think with more conversations, people can see each other’s perspective better. We just happen to be in the vent/angry part of the reconciliation/journey. Lol.

  • @lennih
    @lennih Před 5 lety +5

    Great video! I'm a linguist, and it was quite accurate. Well done!! Just remember that 'nineteen' and 'ninety' have a different stress pattern, so that '-teen' has a strong vowel and primary stress (or secondary, if there is stress-shift), so it's always got some degree of stress. The pronunciation of /t/ as [t] or as a glottal stop is not as random as you made it sound. It's great that you highlighted that 'th' -> /d/ initially, to /v/ medially and finally, and to /f/ for the voiceless 'th' regardless of the context. This is an excellent video. Well done!!! Keep it up

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 5 lety +2

      Hey Hernan, thank you very much for your kind words and extra analysis much appreciated. Where do you work?

    • @lennih
      @lennih Před 5 lety +1

      ​@@EatSleepDreamEnglish I teach English at International House Buenos Aires and I work and study at the University of Buenos Aires. I specialize in phonetics and phonology. If you have any questions about those, I'm always happy to answer them :) It's truly my passion. And it's nice to find a youtuber who is knowledgeable about phonetics. Quite rare, tbh...

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 5 lety +1

      Ahhh Hernán Ruiz I remember you! I worked at IH Recoleta in 2010 and studied Spanish with Mili in the Teacher training centre in Belgrano! You probably don't remember me, I know how many teachers come through IH BA hehe. Anyway, really nice to hear from you and thank you for your comments. I'd love to chat more about phonetics and phonology. If you are interested please email me at Tom@eatsleepdreamenglish.com

  • @elmiawad1777
    @elmiawad1777 Před 3 lety +9

    Not a linguist, but I can hear a certain west African influence in Stormzy accent just like I can with my West African friends who were born in London. Their accent is slightly different to British Afro Caribbean’s London accents IMO.
    Also, the MLE picks up most of its influence from African Caribbean’s plus cockney aka white working class London dialects . Bangladeshi and Other Asian or even African dialects have had a minor influence in mainstream MLE popularisation.

    • @MaiNKoncept
      @MaiNKoncept Před 2 lety

      Asians have no influence. I am old enough to remember how asians would they picked up the accent schooool.

    • @toade1583
      @toade1583 Před 11 měsíci

      I wouldn't call it West African influence, but their accent is a little weaker as African parents are pretty hard on trying to sound Upper middle class so he would have to soften the accent for them so it results in a sorta toned down accent. Even moreso here because he speaking to Ed Sheeran who doesn't speak that way.

  • @tabanmoses2561
    @tabanmoses2561 Před 2 lety

    Teacher tom, you are awesome! But can I pronounce 'there' as vare? I find it easier than dare

  • @RenataSantos-qw4pz
    @RenataSantos-qw4pz Před 5 lety +6

    Do a video on Ed Sheeran's accent : ) It would be great!

    • @user-ci4ke3kt9b
      @user-ci4ke3kt9b Před 3 lety +1

      It seems he speaks with MLE accent. That's why there is no videos about his pronunciation.

  • @szyszak9
    @szyszak9 Před 5 lety +6

    “He puts extra stress on area to emphasise it’s importance” in my opinion it should be its importance ;)

    • @pmwebber22
      @pmwebber22 Před 4 lety

      Correct, but he specialises in spoken not written English and they both sound the same, I think

  • @taegiseoktrash8874
    @taegiseoktrash8874 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a really interesting video, I used to live in the UK, in Scotland & Wales and also travelled a bit, but haven't had much exposure to MLE. Now I live in Asia and I was just randomly watching videos and I could hear the people were from the UK but I had trouble placing the accent, there were lot's of phrases that threw me off (I understood what it meant, but I just didn't recognise the accent) so I did some googling and apparently it's MLE.
    In hindsight this makes a lot of sense because often I lived in areas where I was literally the only POC and though I've travelled through England I haven't spend a lot of time in or around London.

  • @irinaggubler1025
    @irinaggubler1025 Před 5 lety +3

    What about video with Tom Hiddleston?

  • @xleplex7070
    @xleplex7070 Před 3 lety

    Something that didn’t come up in this video that is common in MLE, I don’t know wether it’s common in other accents or applies to other words or not but if you were to say a word like alright you could say it in a number of different ways like a’right so dropping the l or eve ‘ight so dropping both a and l. I don’t yet know if this is In other words or accents but I felt like it is important to mention.

  • @hassanisdodi1403
    @hassanisdodi1403 Před 5 lety +2

    Please do a video about Harry potter and Emma watson . I would love love to see that .😍😍
    I enjoyed watching this one though . Gosh it's a great fun indeed to watch your videos Tom .u are brilliant.
    Cheers mate 😍

  • @bsteven885
    @bsteven885 Před 4 lety

    How does an Eastern Estuary accent compare with RP & MLE?

  • @olojondro73
    @olojondro73 Před rokem

    Ee sounds as well. "Daily" or "classy" give the y at the end a lot of sound. Is that something to be considered as part of this accent or is it too general to place it here?
    Also, oo sounds. "Yute" or "stupid" maybe get an oo sound that comes from the throat. But I'm not sure about that one

  • @Havvyer
    @Havvyer Před 5 lety

    Another one you should talk about is Sophie Ellis Bextor.

  • @shayanpashaei
    @shayanpashaei Před 2 měsíci +1

    another thing not mentioned i believe: how many MLE speakers pronounce words that end in the "a" sound, or often words that end in er. so when he said player, or area, the sound is a more "AWWWH" sound.

    • @EatSleepDreamEnglish
      @EatSleepDreamEnglish  Před 2 měsíci

      That's an interesting observation Shayan, thanks yeah that's definitely true in some MLE speakers for sure! I feel like the -er ending is said in a few different ways. As an /æ/ /ə/ or an /ɒ/ which is the closest symbol I can get to your awwwh sound. Really appreciate the comment and check out my other MLE video. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.

  • @aftonmcnamee7921
    @aftonmcnamee7921 Před 3 lety

    MLE is basically the same as the accent in multicultural Birmingham accents too

  • @KiingShooter24
    @KiingShooter24 Před rokem +1

    This was bloody brilliant, mandem got me fuming fam. The ting went scraaaa poopoppop.

  • @myriadar
    @myriadar Před 4 lety +1

    Nice video ! An aspirated H also in MLE almost like in Scottish accents, in "high" ! One think that I think is specific to MLE is the pronunciation of words like "cant" "come on" where the C really turns into a harder throaty K sound, more elongated and emphasised, much like I guess you might find in some Asian languages.

  • @ma.9029
    @ma.9029 Před 2 lety

    Please do one of these about Jorja Smith’s accent, is so pretty!

  • @castello8653
    @castello8653 Před 4 lety +68

    You Look like Harry Potter😂

  • @maelleamand
    @maelleamand Před 4 lety

    I am sorry, what do you mean by a wider vowel? Thank you so much for your video !!

  • @karelpeeters1994
    @karelpeeters1994 Před 2 lety

    'k Like you, Tom, to do an episode on Thomas Brody Sangster and/or Otto Farrant and his brother in arms Brenock O'Connor from the series "Alex Rider". I think the two latter have a kind of London based RP accent.

  • @mothertheresasugall157

    Hi can you do New Zealand accent with the ‘Nek Minute’ man. He’s pretty famous in New Zealand and you can just search it up on yt.