Multicultural London English (MLE) Accent Tutorial - 5 Top Features!
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- This video is a Multicultural London English tutorial with 5 top features - the question is - is it the death of Cockney?!!
The accent is also known as MLE or even Jafaican. I'll show you how to say certain sounds in MLE so that you'll be speaking it with style in no time. In fact, I'll concentrate on sounds you drop, keep or change.
About the video, firstly I should apologise for the flickering of the light - I hope it doesn't distract you too much.
Now, the video is in parts. In my tutorials I always like to give a bit of background information so that you know something about the accent. To me MLE is like brewing a nice cup of tea - watch to find out what I mean. Here's the breakdown of sections in the video (for example you can skip to the tutorial if you wish):
0:00-0:36 Intro.
0:37-1:24 Part 1 MLE and Tea (where does the accent come from?)
1:25-5:06 Part 2 Tutorial (5 top features).
5:07-5:53 Top TV Tip.
5:54-7:02 Outro.
In the tutorial, I have highlighted 5 key features of MLE.
Plus, at the end of the video I give you my top TV tip. So watch out for that!
Here's the link to the trailer of the top TV tip (Top Boy) mentioned in the video:
• Top Boy Season 1 Trail...
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So my question in the video is - is it the death of Cockney? What do you think?
I believe it will survive in the medium term. Though the East Anglian sounding burr was common in across the south and has been wiped out of the home counties in 50 to 75 years. I remember listening to old boys using buggeree buggeri Bucks in the 80s but have not heard it in years.
There are still young people speaking Cockney so it is protected for at least a generation.
The one caveat is that as I'm the 1920s it would have been unimaginable to think that the southern English family if accents would be pushed to East Anglia and the fens only within 60 years. So MLE could sweep Cockney out quicker than I imagine.
Yeah, Essex, Kent, Hertfordshire and Home Counties are already copying.
@@garethfarman9540 Confirmed, born in South London until 10 and then moved to Norwich with Estuary English. The Norfolk one still exists (mainly in the North and West) but it's taken a big hit in Norwich and South Norfolk and a lot of the East (other than the coast).
All the Cockneys have left London and taken their amazing dialect with them to Essex and Kent.
I’m glad you acknowledged the other influences and didn’t just say “Jamaican” or “Caribbean” like others say. MLE has influences from so many languages, accents and dialects. For example some words come from Portuguese, Somali, Arabic, Italian, different African languages and more
Absolutely and a very good point. Thanks for sharing that.
No British cant or dialect is totally free from foreign influence.
Polari leans heavily on Cockney Rhyming slang, but infuses it with overly pretentious use of southern European languages. Bona to set me minces on your dolly eek. (Good to set my eyes on your lovely face) Eek is a genuine Polare, coming from ecaf or face backwards.
However Chav comes from Romany and there are many other influences.
@@garethfarman9540 we’re talking about MLE
It basically has only jamaican or Caribbean influences
@@Robio_scorpio literally lol
Not dropping "h" is connected with learning the RP accent at language schools and courses.
Exactly
Why would native English people go to a language school to learn English?
@@richieseager6130aha. They must learn English to know how to read and write English 😅
I understood all the top 5 except #5. Thanks for the video.
There's another thing I've noticed (it's either MLE or South London) where a word such as "like" is pronounced as "lack" and "house" is kind of "haahs" (instead of "howse"). And I remember for a while "innit" became "izzit". You're going to the party, izzit. But I haven't heard that for a while.
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To anyone in the comments section, Cockney is not at all pretentious, it's how we speak, don't run down what you don't understand. We still exist you know
Cockney is very good for east end hard men in guy riche films. love it when a east end hard man says cunt.
How is cockney pretentious 😂it’s a lower class accent
British Colonial Slave traders sent Indentured Irish Servants to the Caribbean. West African Slaves tribal dialect mixed with Irish accent led to the west Indian accents. West Indian people moved to London, then few decades later the modern day MLE was born. You done know - top of the morning to ya !!!! Irish and African are for me the biggest influences for me.
I know of Jamaica. But, how many Irish slaves were really sent to the Bahamas, Trinidad and Guyana for them to have that accent?
@@adangbe Plenty. Jamaica wasn't the only British Caribbean colony to receive a much of Irish servants. You can look up the "Black Irish" of Montserrat (most people of the island are of African and Irish descent) and the "Redlegs" (the Irish Caribbean versions of "rednecks") in places like Barbados. Two good books you can also read are "The Black and Green Atlantic: Cross-Currents of the African and Irish Diasporas" edited by Peter D. O'Neill and "Everyday Life in the Early English Caribbean: Irish, Africans, and the Construction of Difference" by Jenny Shaw. I'm an Afro-American, btw, so I don't have an agenda to whitewash Afro history and culture in the Americas. The history of the African Diaspora in the Americas is quite interconnected with that of the Irish Diaspora, though. It's very fascinating!
So why do they’re parents generallly speak Cockney if it’s derived from there so called ancestors and managed to skip a generation or 2
@@mayorjoshua Thanks for sharing this. I'm an Anglo Irish Brit and I notice that what the Irish people have been through is often forgotten about because they're/we're white. So many conversations are currently based on race rather than class/poverty and how the ruling class have always exploited impoverished white British and Irish people as well as people from other countries. It's currently taboo to even say this despite it being the truth. What they did to the Irish people as well as the African people was horrific. I'm going to look up those books now, thanks.
Good job!
Thank you! Cheers!
I think it’s defiantly somewhat put on I grew up in a multi cultural South East London and I don’t talk like this in the slightest Mabey the odd slang word but not a different accent
So you are immune.
Another good video. Dropping the H's is in cockney not really in mle.
It's an interesting accent for sure. I'm an immigrant to this country from a young age. Raised in glasgow and have obviously picked up the accent (although I am told I speak like a posh ****.) The one thing I find odd is fellow immigrants have the MLE accent even though a lot of them were raised in Glasgow. (Tbf some lived in england b4 coming up here so maybe that had an effect.) Just find it odd, a Scottish immigrant with an MLE accent 😂😂😂
So in one you dropped the th in brother and the other you fronted it instead. What causes some to drop it and others to front it instead?
I think doing that is very natural. It depends on what you are saying and then what sound you choose (subconciously).
If the th is in the middle or at the end of a word then it will become f or v. If it's at the beginning of a word it will become t or d.
I have one question for you
In international phonetic chart of RP
there are two front sounds /ei/and /e/
And the place of articulation is almost same but little different. However, speakers start /ei/ (close mid) diphthong from /ɛ/
which is in open mid position in phonetic chart. In dictionary there is only /e/ symbol for both /e/ and /ɛ/ sounds.
I think we can start /ei/ diphthong from any one place out of these two. I've seen RP phonetic chart many times and got to know there are some sounds positions which are not definite. But tell me why there are contradictions in RP chart regarding sounds? I hope u understand!
That's why I use Adrian Underhill's phonemic chart and I'm comfortable with it. So, I can't really answer your question on IPA.
6:28 Yorkshire
Any chacne you could do a video on why this accent is spreading so far outside of London among young people?
Seems like young people really want to use this accent even if it doesn't make sense for them to and haven't been exposed to it from family/teachers etc.
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Language and accents are ever evolving just like the the merging of RP and Cockney decades which produced estuary English. It's called evolution.
@@eyedentv Agreed, even in London the norm was cockney/estuary 20 years ago- it all changed with kids copying grime, drill or whatever other shite is out there now.
Simple its called the great replacement.
In Hereford hurricanes hardly ever happen.
If someone walks it to a job interview and talks like that you minimise the chances of get the job
And that’s a fact !!
Look up Giles' theory of accommodation.
Which is a shame
Th fronting in MLE. Can I pronounce'there'as vare in MLE?
It becomes a v or f if it's in the middle of the word like brother is like bruvva but not always at the start. There is just there. But now I think of it I say "fink" and "free" instead of think and three. But I say there as there. So I really don't know. I guess there is sometimes.."dere" if there's a word before it, to run it together? (I'm just thinking about what sounds natural when I talk)
So 'innit' is kind of equivalent to 'eh' in Canadian english.
Indeed it is.
The black kids were always seen as cool on the London estates . The white and Asian kids copied their style and language. The young black kids adopted a Jamaican influenced dialect that their parents didn't use. Most of their parents had been born here and spoke with a traditional working class London accent. I first noticed this change just over 20 years ago while travelling on a bus in Highbury. Two kids who I assumed were black, were chatting behind me, as I turned around to leave I saw that the kids were white. It took me by surprise. Now it's the norm. I was in my doctors surgery in Camden last week and heard a discussion between the 50 year old black male receptionist who spoke with an English accent and a 25 year old white English man who talked with a Jamaican one. London language has changed dramatically in one generation and it's not just working class kids. I've heard young wealthy teenagers in Highgate doing the same ting. It's the cool way to speak. Innit
Remember the Jamaican accent wouldn't exist without the Irish influence. Listen to how crazily similar a thick Irish accent sounds alongside Jamaican patois.
Yes, it's certainly a mix of Jamaican, Irish and some Cockney. The black kids developed it as their own slang and the white and Asian kids copied as they thought it was cool. I've lived on an estate for 30 years. I've seen it develop. And your right, it certainly has an Irish influence as their were a lot of families around here in Camden of Irish descent. It's certainly widespread and established in London
@@TT-jc4ur Ting.
I’d say it’s somewhat put on In both races alot of the black kids they’re mum and dad usually speak more like traditional Londoners and the white kids it’s even worse they ain’t got no excuse for it
like everyone goes to public schools regardless of race it really aint a race thing
My theory is immigrant families probably pronounced words like 'Heading' or 'House' in full.
Yes, that's what I mean in the video. Although, it's not a strict rule and is up to the individual.
Jamaicans pronounce England as Hengland.
Hope isn't always like "hohhp" although I've heard that, I say it more like..."hoep" I guess
What about Bruv?
Yes for sure
MLE or Carribean?
I speak MLE I grew up in Newham Forest Gate and I remember when I moved up to Hull and was working there I got a few racists who didn't like my accent and tried to take the piss by repeating the way I say words like fam, blud manz on dis ting etc but I realised very quickly it was a racial thing because we had a lot of Polish and Romanians at the place I worked and the local English people never laughed at their accents in English but for some reason hated on my accent and I'm from England
They thought you were Ali G
It’s exactly because you’re from England that they’re taking the Mick. How about speaking like a grown-up.
Probably because you're not Jamaican.
If anyone talks to me in MLE I tell them I can't understand them. Also, 'innit' was was used extensively by the working class in London and the South East back as far as at least the 70s. 'Smart, innit?' It's funny how 'innit' is being attributed to MLE. In MLE 'innit' is just gibberish, innit?
Hows it gibberish
You can learn an accent by memorising it
1:59 "to the аss" ?!
Something like that
I'm from the north. When I hear anyone talk in this new style accent, it just sounds african to me, I cant narrow it down further.
I find it irritating and really dodgy sounding 😂
I don’t like it myself that much, but seriously there are a lot of different African accents. West African does not sound like East African South African does not sound like North African and then there’s those that even have the French accent
That just tells me you've not met a lot of african people and/or travelled much.
Its the death of cockney from my period of time i can tell straight awzy im a 1955 born cockney accents change due to social change way it is cock or mate just is
It's Jamaican
The worst one is arks instead of ask
Cockney always sounded so pretentious and forced to me, whereas MLE sounds so natural and modern, and I'm lowkey picking it up from friends, even though the way I speak is nowhere near anything British. But there are times where I catch myself and whatever came out of my mouth sounded so Caribbean/British for some reason.
Interesting insight thanks
Cockney is not pretentious, some of us in London still speak it you know
It's not strange
MLE sounds much more put on/false compared to native cockney
It sounds so horrible , like drug dealers etc
dats cheeky yo@@benfisher1376
2:45 lol that yout as if his trying to somehow indrectly say. really? really guys ?
Presenter has the strangest accent ever. MLE/ Cockney and trying to sound SSBE?
It's the other way round
Gonna have the city of London sounding like ali g in 20 years 😂😂😂😂
Up here in the North we call it Jafaican. It makes us cringe.
It really is a stupid sounding fake accent. I can't stand it.
We do in London
@@richieseager6130
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yeh but the thing is your in the north thats already an L
@@anamerican5585 bruh the north is just better, no debate - every time I go up to central yorkshire, the west riding, greater manchester, etc. people are always so nice and that combined with the vast countryside and charming architecture just makes it such a pleasant place to be
And I'm not even a northener so there's no bias here haha
Nowadays most whites kids in London speak English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect which is very different from the anglo saxon dialect of English which was spoken in London.
In the early 2000's, young white kids on council estates in London became JAMAICANISED.
This is when they starting speaking with English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect.
For example, Essex county is the only place in Britain where the cockney dialect/and or accent is still spoken.
TO SUMMARISE:
In the 1980's all the national British companies when through a process called
national - PRIVATISATION - and then
almost - SIMULTANEOUSLY - all the
poor - NATIONAL - white kids endured a process
called - JAMAICANISATION - which did indeed
definitely - LEAD - to all
poor - NATIONAL - white girls on council estates
quickly - UNDERGO - a process called Jamaican
extreme - INSEMINATION - and thus all the
young - RESULTING - half cast babies initiated a
full - NATIONAL - process called
extreme - BASTARDISATION.
Remember everyone, that the last point regarding bastardisation is entirely optional, and is not my view but instead is the view of white nationalists.
Bit of a stereotype still places in London that ain’t got the jafaican thing and plenty in Kent still talk similar to traditional London
@@richieseager6130
Maybe people in the outer limits of London still speak with a traditional celtic accent/dialect.
But not deeper into London where white kids speak English with a hybrid Jamaican dialectn
Bermondsey ain’t exactly a outer limit where would you class the outer limits as
@@richieseager6130
Wrong mate.
I visited to Bermondsey in the summer of 2014.
Here are some of the terms i have personally heard white kids speaking in Bermondsey whilst i walked the streets all day with my Nigerian friend.
Are you ready.................
Here we go................
WA GWAAN
YA DONE KNOW
SKEET DEM
MAN DEM
DA TING
BLOODCLART
PUSSYCLART
BUMBACLART
RAASCLART
This is how i heard white teenagers speak when i was in Bermondsey with my Nigerian friend in 2014.
@@shaunigothictv1003What's a celtic accent?? Never heard one.
The most annoying feature of this so-called MLE is the sound of the I in “like”. Which is a shame because the people who speak with this accent say “like” several times in every sentence. Except they say “laaaak” instead. I will never employ someone who speaks with that ridiculous accent.
Shows how bad things have become when your own accents start dissapearing. And white kids who speak in this new accent should be ashamed and get some self respect and stop trying to be something they are not.
cry harder
Right on. I'm an American but always liked the Cockney accent, shame this is what it's being replaced with. I reckon a lot of these kids will snap out of it as they age
@@Draefend it's not new tho, it started in the 80s. I grew up surrounded by this accent, learning to speak different now would involve faking an accent which is weird and hard, you don't just grow out of an entire accent, maybe people use different words when they're older but they're not going to speak different. I don't see how this accent is any worse than cockney, people used to look down on that too
@@pumpkinpepsi Thing is I don't live in London I'm 'up North' and it's a pretty popular accent here too. It literally IS kids copying rap to become 'cool'. In the 80's you might have had it in the bigger and more diverse London, but leafy Cheshire didn't!
Lol Getting butthurt for people’s accents. Bruh It’s the people who shame others for their accents that should be ashamed.
Let's be honest Jafaken is a less advanced form of English and appeals to low-IQ people.
accents change no ones faking it mate we all went to public primary skls and just repeated what was been said
@@anamerican5585 People who want to be Jamaican are faking it, no one taught you to pretend to be from Kingston in a public primary school. If you speak like that then you're an easily led sheep who can't speak proper English. You may as well start using American slang in an American accent as well, that is what you sound like when you try and force patois lol.
Get a job please
No it’s not that’s just how people sound accent is no indicator of IQ that’s a very classist way of thinking.
@@di7209 People who spend all day watching CZcams and copying London ''roadmen" (street level dealers) are definitely less intelligent than the average. I was born and grew up in Inner South London and don't speak that way but then I go to Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire, Essex etc. and hear a load of home counties "yutes" forcing this "accent" by using out of place Jafaken words so much lol. There's more American cultural influence than Jamaican by far but I don't hear people randomly forcing American words lol.