1970 Buick GSX drag racing 1971 Plymouth Duster | STOCK DRAG RACE
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- 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 drag racing 1970 Buick GSX Stage 1. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race.
The 1970 Buick GSX has a Stage 1 455 V8, and the Duster has a 340 V8. The 340 V8 Duster was rated 275 horsepower. The Stage 1 455 V8 was rated 360 horsepower. The GSX has an automatic transmission, while the Duster 340 has a 4-speed manual. Rear gearing in the GSX is 3.42, and 4.30 in the Duster. The Duster weighs 3418 pounds including the driver. The GSX weighs a hefty 4180 pounds.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - compression ratio 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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I had a new 71 Duster with 3:23 gears and a torqueflite transmission and ran 14:03 @ 101 m.p.h. on stock E70 x14 poly glass tires. Great fun in a plain Jane car.
I think both cars would've been quicker if the Duster had a Torqueflite, and the Stage 1 had steeper gearing. Much respect to the 340s, even in '71 they were still formidable, but tough to take down a Stage 1, especially a '70 Stage 1. Along with the Hemi's and the LS6, they were the pinnacle of power and performance. Another great race!
The GSX 455 is a fast car,I raced one got my ass handed to me
The Buick 455 Stage One was the only engine that gave the 426 Hemis serious competition. The drawback from the Hemis is that the weighed 850 lbs.!
@@tskraj3190 the LS6 didn't?
My 71 LS 5 454 Chevelle SS would run mid 13s. I don't know if it's driver or car, but that Stage 1 should have run quicker imo. Every one I ran across on the street did.
That 340 showed what they are made of, taking on a Stage 1 is tough. And what a great display of torque vs hp, in the first race you could see the Duster coming on and the higher trap speed. Like the old saying goes, “Torque makes power, and power makes speed”. Thank you as always!
GS HAS 510 TORQUE . CAR AND DRIVER SAID : THE STAGE ONE IS THE MIGHEST OF STUMP PULLERS. AND THE ULTIMATE SLEEPER AND HEMI KILLER. . I OWN ONE IN 1978. AND Another IN 1982. FANTASTIC CARS. LUCKY TO BE ALIVE.. WOW - WILD ON WHEELS. SMOKE SHOWS AND VETTE DESTROYER..
Those 455 Stage 1 Buicks were absolute torque monsters, and they understated the numbers too! 13.3’s back in the day was right at the top of the muscle car crowd. Sweet!
Duster 340’s we’re way underrated I had. 1970 ‘340 4 sp 391 gears in 1970 first car and tubbed Headers and 9” slicks ram 13:23 @ 105 and ram ES/S class had to run 440 Superbee, 428 Torino, Boss 302 , in that class and most always won . Loved those 340’s !!
Who did win?
My favorite gm car! There is something about the bore and stroke in the 340 that just works. I had a 1973 duster 340 with a torque flight and 3.23 gears. Stock low compression and everything. It would still go sideways leaving a light.
I had a 71 Dodge Demon...same car almost...it would get sideways too. Outran a few 350s and such...pretty good for a 225 Slant 6 lol.
My friend had a 71 "Feather Duster"...225 Slant 6 w/4 speed manual. That thing WOULD run! He outran a lot of V8s with thing.
Believe it or not, the 727 torqueflite Dusters were significantly quicker.My first car was 1970 Duster with a torqueflite and it did 13.5 seconds and with 3.73 gears. Frigging awesome car!!!!
Love those 70 G.S 'S. HAD TWO ONE WAS STAGE ONE. RARELY LOST A RACE!. LUCKY TO BE WRITING THIS COMMENT. WOW. THOSE WERE THE DAYS. 76-85. MISS THEM BIG TIME.
I got my first car in 1973. Been a car guy ever since.
The 70s were the best. In the early to mid 70s, mid to late 60s cars were behind sold in every used car lot...cheap. I wish I could go back knowing what I know now.
@@chevyblue10 I PAID 500 FOR ONE. AND 750 FOR STAGE 1. WITH 68000 ON REG GS AND 73000 ON STAGE ONE DRIVEN BY A WOMAN. A LOT OF PARTYING AND ALCOHOL ETC. I AM A SURVIVOR. ALL MY BUDDIES HAD MUSCLE CARS. . SOME DIDN'T MAKE IT HOME. THEY NEEDED HIGH OCTANE LIKE THE DRIVERS. PEACE. THE 70S ROCKED. CLASS OF 1976.
Man, both these scream muscle cars with the stripes. The little Duster was definitely outgunned here. Those Buicks were beasts with that torque. I really don't think it got embarrassed much considering the cube difference. That first run it was reeling the 455 in pretty fast and that trap speed was considerably more.
Duster had issues leaving and there was a missed shift. Still, both of these are on my short list of all time favs.
Great race for Easter.
My favorite Mopars (Dusters and Demons)!!! Awesome!!
Wow! I heard the Buick bark the tires when it hit 2nd gear I think! I haven’t seen a car with a automatic do that in a while! Duster looks and runs great too!
It also chirped when it hit 3rd, watch it again.
He chirped them hitting 3rd too. That ain't easy.
Man I love just seeing these cars go by. Love your videos! But I need 1 bathroom joke next time…
Happy Easter, C&Z!
Love both cars, that GSX was very consistent, consistency is tough to beat.
I would love to see a 87 Buick Grand National vs a 70 Buick GSX 455 Stage 1. That would be an awesome race.
Yea, and then how about an 87 Grand Nat against a 22 Corvette? Makes about as much sense.
@@anthonynelson9136 actually from what I've read both the Grand National and the GSX were in the high 13s stock. So it would be a close race.
@@garrisonnichols807 My bone stock 87 GN ran a bunch of 13.90's with about 1500 miles on it back in 87. The trick is to brake boost just enough to launch well, which was NOT easy with those small, super slick stock P215 Goodyear GT's......
@@anthonynelson9136 the 87 g wouldn't beat a 70 g ,70 were 13.38 at 105 the 87 was slower
@@camclarke9952 Not off the showroom floor they didn't. The 70 GSX cars they sent to the go-fast magazines for testing were prepped cars. Off the showroom, they were low 14-second cars.
Best Buick of all time period, glad to see that it’s being driven.
The best Buick ever made was the '87 GNX.
@@danv8717 The second best Buick of all time
GSX rules everything!
Thanks C&Z
The mopar took the big block up to 45 - 60 mph!! 340 in those smaller cars were a top combo, just wish they had a 6 pack option in those!
The 455 torque monster!
Two GREAT muscle cars!!!! Great and close race!!
the Duster was unusually slow for what it was. I've seen a couple of them on your channel run in the 12s, so I'm surprised this one was two whole seconds slower. these were some good races though, don't get me wrong. I'm still happy to see another Duster run down the strip
Yep, had a 71 Demon 340, put Edelbrock aluminum intake and a Holley 750 double pump carburetor, a slight upgrade to the cam, and you can jump on it at 10 mph and turn sideways! 12 second car at the track. Probably could have done a little faster, but even with the 60s on the back, I still couldn't get any traction off the line... Love that car, wish I still had it. Back in the day we didn't know what we had. Also had a 71 Torino with a 429, the Demon and the Torino were pretty much neck and neck on the quarter mile..
Sure was slow a big part was the driver was horrible. Did you see his start on first race, then a missed shift on second race. No wonder he wouldnt come out for third race.
That Buick was pretty slow too, considering what it is. He should have been running low 13s on a bad day. Makes me wonder how hard he was trying.
Great race love the duster they make really fast race cars tough to beat at the track. Add come on Buick GS graphics are the best 👌
That's the slowest '70 Stage 1 Buick I've ever seen. And with a 104 mph trap speed, the Duster has the potential to beat the Buick to the finish line, but the driver's probably having trouble getting a good launch with the 4-speed.
Has i always say "When Better automobiles are built BUICK will build them 😉 it was fun back in the day at the strip, our Cars just kicked ass.
I’m a Mopar guy, but I love anything with a 455 Stage 1. Love that car.
Love the look of the Saturn Yellow GSX.
Wow. Excellent, both cars. Just can't beat a 1970 455 with all that torque. Thanks
This one was pretty slow
The Stage 1, driver was driving with his A/C & 8track on while racing.🇺🇸
You'd sure think so! An unusually slow one.
The 70s were the best. I was a teenager in the 70s. In the 70s, mid to late 60s cars were behind sold in every used car lot...cheap. Early 70s cars too. I wish I could go back knowing what I know now.
Love them ol Buicks.
I tore a 340 apart that had pop up pistons . if it would had had a bigger cam it should of had hp ratings like a 327 in the 350 -375 hp range . By the way it had a knocked rod with a nice banana curve to it . It got rebuilt but with flat tops.
I'm a Mopar guy, but the Buick GSX is 💜🖤! My shop teacher in highschool had a 70 Buick GSX. He had headers, full exhaust, Holly carb, and aftermarket 4:10 gears. 0-110mph. Nothing would touch it!
luv to see a 70 hemi cuda or challenger with that setup, now we are talking!!!
@@andrewp1998the hemi cuda couldn't touch a stock GS,they tried and lost,67 hemi GTX and a 70 hemi cuda.
@@camclarke9952 BS The 70 hemi cuda had the quickest qrt mile time that yr.
510 lb-ft. Yes, please!
Ouch, that missed gear hurt!! The little mopar still damn near took a big block that first round. Little rough of the line in the first round. Great job to both drivers though!
a hemi would run with the gsx the duster not a chance..
That missed shift in the 2nd race really hurt the Duster
A torqueflight could've made the difference. I had a 71 Duster 340 4sp (6 cylinder conversion). It also had 4:30 gears, and with those little 14" rallyes, it was about out of rpm by the end of the quarter
Yeah, I noticed it smoking bad when it went thru the traps. Didnt come back forthe 3rd round. I think the 340 went ka-poo-ee(!) when the driver missed second or third gear and I think the pedal hit the floor before backing off to reshift. Boom!
At least thats what I saw and heard.
Finally two vehicles that turn realistic quarter mile times. Truly stock vehicles are such a rarity on this you tube channel. Glad he finally got the message.
my favourite part is when you talk about the price and options adjusted for inflation.
Wish the Duster had gone the 3rd round. Surely with more practice and a few tweaks he could have gotten into the 13’s
Love that GSX. Love to have one 👉 It took Buick until 2019 to put out a GS with 310hp and a nine speed auto sedan. Discontinued 😭 and the violins play. I was waiting for Buicks version of the new trans am that never happened and I really thought it was coming out and it was nice. Look it up, it was like a super Camaro or TA 🤔 purdy too but now everybody's flocking to $50k+ SUVs like the opposite of k cars of the 80s.
I had no expectations from the Duster in this matchup but the driver came out of the hole choppy in round 1 and missed a shift in round 2. Both races would’ve been a bit closer but those stage 1’s are mean machines.
Wonder if the Plymouth had a worn clutch and pressure plate. I know from experience, the temptation to misuse them is great, and when it comes time to race, they slip and smoke and it's just embarrassing 😄
Be interested in knowing what the tune up on the Buick is. Mine isn’t a Stage 1 but even spinning it rarely runs slower than 13.50. The MPH is most baffling. Should be 103-106.
My fav year for Duster
Goodday C & Z,
Great racing I think that Duster is a 13.7 sec car with the mph on the first run.
Nice GSX apparently the Hemi Slayer which I still believe is a myth.
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yes, there is no hemi slayer in its class.. the hemis had the quickest qrt mile times back then. gsx and ls6 and l88 vettes came close ..
@@andrewp1998you slopar guys know damn well that luxury Buick smacked the tin can hemi car ,yet 54 years later your still in denial,a 440 6 would be a better race,hemi are a joke.
@@camclarke9952 always jealous mopar haters making up nonsense!
Its a myth.
Was that belt squeal or tire chirping going into 3??
The duster on the second run looks like it got hurt at the finish line. One thing I wonder when new. What car had the cheaper insurance. My dad said when he got his 71 340 duster, his insurance company considered it a family car even with the 340. They was known as a family car.
Well grandpa's hot rod put the whooping on grandson light weight. 😆
Love to see a 2002 WS6 6 speed vs 03 Corbra
Nailhead should do it!
Buick Gs455 was never really geared for 1/4 mile and usually had 342 gears for street driving
True ...
Let's see how well they do in a bracket race.
that Buick had way more in it than 14 flat...
Chirp!
What were the actual corrected horsepower and torque ratings of the 71 plymouth 340 then? I know the car is lighter but wouldnt its e.t. and speed make it closer to 400 hp maybe?
Calculating horsepower using vehicle weight and trap speed speed puts it at around 305 horsepower
actual hp was 325-330
yah 320 I think at least, the six pack motors were tested at 358 ish ..
My brother has that Buick with a 4 speed
Those Stage 1s had more torque then the Hemis
I don't know why anyone would think a 340 CI would beat 355CI.
I drove a stock, but built Buick 355, to 13.03, @ 104 mph, with
A messed up launch.
Mopar outclassed this time.
My little brother had one with a four speed
I'VE SEEN QUICKER TIMES FROM BOTH KINDS OF CARS . SEEN A 340 CRAP ALL OVER A ZL1 CAMARO
BOTH CARS ARE FINE EXAMPLES OF THE BEST OF THE BEST !!!!!!!!
Both nice cars but my heart is with Mopar.
Two years ago
Another Mopar being outclassed.
Why isn't that Buick running better times? Driver or car?
Duster has low 13 second potential with that mph.
The kick i get out of ALL these videos are that all these cars are definitely modified. None of these videos show who's really the fastest straight from the factory. what a shame
The Duster would launch better with 3.91 or 3.73s on those little tires.
Hard to beat the displacement of the gsx
With over 500lb ft of torque it doesn't seem to matter how much that pig weights. Coupled with proper gearing and torque converter and it'll beat up on all kinds of small block legend cars. I mean pig in a good way of course
I guess if the "pocket rocket" Duster had A727 TorqueFlite it would win. Great race.
those 340s were awesome, just with they came with a 6 pack!
@@andrewp1998 Yes. '70 AAR 'Cuda 340 Six bbl is really incredible!
@@plymouthdie-castreplicas oh yeah .ta challenger too. They were awesome on the street.
@@andrewp1998 Definitely👍 Not so brutal as 440/Hemi beasts at a drag strip but excellent for handling and light weight. Just a Trans Am technology.
My idiot ex brother inlaw had one of these stage 1, yellow, and automatic ... he totaled it right in front of our house... flipped it end over end and landed on its roof and burst into flames right after the drunk idiot crawed outta the car, he just had som bumps and bruises and was fine.... he's kicked himself over and over knowing what he had now....
NO fair! Buick is a big block. Plymouth is a small block V8. Both are low 14 seconds cars.
Guy in the Duster needs to learn how to leave better. If he didn't hiccup in that first race, we might have seen a different outcome...
Just FYI, the "adjusted for inflation" does not mean anything. The price of vehcles hit a much steeper curve on cost than the curve of inflation, more than once. For example, think of the average Pro football players in the '60s, who had to work odd jobs during the summer to make ends meet, then at about 1981, athlete incomes skyrocketed (more than once since then, of course)..
This channel is making me seriously consider tossing out 25-30 grand for a reasonable resto of some mid-tier muscle
Buick gsx if truth be known was actually running well over 500 horsepower
Care to cite a source? I doubt you'll find a credible one that agrees. I know what it takes to get 500 HP out of a Buick 455 and those engines certainly didn't have it from the factory. With the very rare dealer installed Stage 2 parts it could get there.
@@cdglasser yah and they brag about the stage 2 aftermarket but If they put a cross-ram race hemi in as an option for a street-legal car then it would not be close at all! I hear that the 70 gs had 510 ft lbs ???
At the end of the day I would still pick the rev happy A body just for the fun factor.
02:46. Duster was reeling him in easily……
An unusually slow GS. This guy's GSX has that rep.
The GSX may be heavy but she's sexy. Remember.......she ain't a lady unless she's 480.
That higher MPH of the Duster in the first run shows a better power to weight ratio and it should be capable of running a quicker 1/4 mile than the GSX.
Not a great race. Nice to see the cars, but not sure worth the editing or channel effort. Duster has a bad launch, then missed shift, then a no show. GSX letting the auto take control and short shifting. Not up to PAR for the channel.
Son unos SEXTINDER.Uno de los mejores conciertos ❤️ Son unos de los mejores conciertos, no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla 1, se que estuvos sorprendente...
Duster Driver Doesn’t Know How To Drive/Shift His Own Car 🤦♂️
Still shocked with how slow the cars ran that we thought were quick back in the 60s and 70s. It’s routine for cars to run in the 10s and 11s now. Plaid goes low 9s as a daily driver.
It takes a 100 more ci of Generic Motor Crap to barely a mopar
the hemi couldn't beat the 455stage 1 in 1970 slopar 13.87 gsx 13.38 ,,you slopar crybabys still think your junk is fast,as a full luxury car whoops it's ass..
Nah bro that no power got smoked
The slowpar even being 800 pounds lighter with a 4sp and 4.30 rear gears was still sucking hind tit to the Buick.
Another sore loser dodge fanboy
@@anthonynelson9136 Funny, but slopar's owned super stock, pro stock, stock, funny car, top fuel, and... back in the day. Where was Buick? Oh, but when Chrysler was forced to add weight to their pro stock's, it took around 800 pounds, GM finally won a race. Good job and thank GM and 'Da Grump' Jenkin's for crying to NHRA prez Wally Park's that it was bad for Chrysler to win all the time. Finally gave GM faithful something to brag about.
Oh and the Hemi killer Stage 1 Buick, back in the eighties, I knew a guy who owned one and constantly badgered me to part way's with my Challenger because GM's were so superior. His tune changed when a local '71 340 Duster dusted his Buick, actually bitched slapped it. The Duster had header's and 3:23 gear's.