It is just very strange and sad that Hall and Oates have never won a single Grammy while much much lesser musicians (of today especially) make the award ceremony their own.
I wish this generation could go back, for a moment in time, late 70's through the mid-late 80's and witness just how big Hall & Oates were at that time. They are still that talented.
I love hall and oats heard them as a child way before Micheal Jackson as all I had was the 1 radio station half the day it was country, . Epic music sent around a team to my school to play the video to thriller , after that they finally played thriller , didn't sound as good as it did from the record with stereo headphones, a year later . The video I arrived late for , so .... anyhow no similarities between the two songs. Exactly as Daryle Hall said. These guys are soul smooth funky coffee house , really good esp Maneater , Micheal Jackson, just at another level when I first heard thriller the album, on headphones 🎧, wow its like music had been re invented , blew my socks off
I'm not saying they don't handle the situation perfectly, like real professionals should, but they also know if anyone took the case to court, they'd immediately lose. Melodies are so important in determining whether one song "ripped off" another, and no jury in the world would ever confuse one of these songs with another.
@@Afrimusican hall and goats were great, excellent songs like Sarah, rich girl ect, unfortunately the biggest hit they had was maneater, the worst song they ever did, a bit like rock n roll legend Chuck berry, his biggest hit? my dingaling.
Really appreciate this clip because all musicians are naturally interested in other people's music and have things they dig and it plays always in a corner of their mind. To draw on other's music as inspiration is a great thing. To steal is another. Anyone who understands music and researchs the musicians can tell the difference. These two guys are the real deal. I can go for that
AS a founding member of THE TEMPTONES, I am honored to say that I was in the studio sitting next to Daryl when he was laying down the track for I Can't Go For That with guitarist GE Smith. Electric Lady Studios in Greenwich Village.The song was still in pieces but very funky even that way.
“Everytime I write a song I think Im writing a Curtis Mayfield song.” Amazing how a true musical songwriter thinks, trying to capture the sound of a great like Mayfield but it comes out as their own classic.
One of my all-time fave Daryl Hall songs was one he never actually released as a single, but when British singer Paul Young recorded Hall's "Every Time You Go Away", it became a smash hit in the U.S. and U.K. in 1985. All of this success coincided with the "Live Aid" festivities around that time. Great memories 🤗
Daryl Hall performed that song on their 1986 album "Live At The Apollo" when they performed with Eddie Kendrick and David Ruffin of the Temptations. He announced that he would be singing it in its original arrangement which as you stated was on "Voices".
When will people finally understand the difference between "stolen", "sampled" and "inspired by"??? Thank you Hall & Oats for your common sense...which is unfortunately not so common!
Marsha Scott... "White singers"???????? So now only white singers steal music???? That is so fucking racist it's ridiculous. Farrell literally is who produced the song as well as Happy which is even more of an apparent ripoff of Marvin Gay than Blurred lines. I don't care if you are white, black or pink with purple dots your comment is small minded and racist.
Now that's a class act up there. Speaking the truth! We forget that few ideas are new and we are inspired every day of our lives in on way or another. Rest in Peace 🤴 M.J. you gave more to the world than you got back.
Such gentlemen. Michael Jackson had thousand of random people sue him, saying he “stole their music”. It’s actually sad and inspiring to watch hours of the actual deposition of Michael put these people to shame as he spoke, sang, beat boxed and mentally went through the evolution and creation of some of his greatest music.
These guys aren't suing. Michael approached him and stated that he stole it to make billy jean...he also says that billy jean is a different song and was not really the same, so flattered but slightly confused as to why Michael would say it was stolen...
I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.
I believe Eddie Van Halen said he was inspired by the guitar bridge in 'Kiss on My List' to write the synthesizer bridge in 'Jump'. As with the Billie Jean/I Can't Go for That bass I can absolutely hear where MJ would've been inspired by that to come up with the Billie Jean hook.
It was actually the synth part from “kiss on my list” according to what Eddie Van Halen told Daryl Hall. However come to think of it it sounds a lot more like “Dreams” than “Jump” (the beginning part of the song when the drums start). Listen to them both carefully, Dreams sounds a lot more like Kiss on my list
@@billykokkinidis Eddie despite what people say about Eddie, he was generally a nice guy. He didn't even get paid for the guitar work he did for Michael Jackson, I heard him say in an interview once and didn't even seem to care. Most artists would be suing for back pay and royalties, Eddie didn't give a shit.
@@JENDALL714 eddie is a good guy. He even helped pay for jason beckers medical expenses and gave him one of his guitars. Its was a tremendous loss the day he died
Stole??? Michael said it that way to give props to H&O. And they deserve it bc i love those blue-eyed soul brothers! (Big ups to Michael McDonald & the Doobie brothers!!)
@@JENDALL714 Took him 20 minutes and they did two takes ....and a little side note: Per an interview with David Lee Roth, Edward had the "Beat It" solo laying around for years and could never find the right Van Halen song to use it in.....when he was asked to perform the solo on "Beat It" he dusted it off and made it work for "Beat It" and history was made.
What humble, kind, and TALENTED men! They handled that question wonderfully, no backstabbing, no lying, no posturing, no dissing, just humble storytelling. They are the BEST!❤
It’s so cool to see & hear John talk too! Hall & Oats are the most successful male duo EVER. Growing up every song they released went to the top - What’s cool is my dad God rest his soul is who turned me onto them we love them together and I think about him every time I hear any Hall & Oates song…. Leaves me with that nostalgic yet wanting to move/DANCE & sing along feeling… like I did with my dad. So cool. Really love their music & always admired John for being so incredibly humble.
I'm actually proud to hear this interview.usually the artist(s) bitch and sue instead of coming together..be inspired!! For MJ to be inspired by anyone is an amazing thing to hear about
People who make dresses are using someone elses' prints, and those prints probably came from a print from somewhere else. What I don't understand about QJ is that he's badmouthing MJ about doing it, but he went along with it and produced it anyway (?) What does that say about him?
Yeah, what Quincy did was take ideas from their song something that has been done a million times. Much different from actually stealing songs come on Debra.
I met John Oates out of pure randomness, thanks to my sister in law who works in the music industry here in Nashville. Most humble, down to earth, nicest guy you’ll ever meet. Funny thing is my SIL knew him from being in the music industry, she acted as if he was just another regular person while I’m over here with my jaw open to the floor screaming in my brain…..that’s John Oats!!!! 😂👍🏻
I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.
Both No Can Do and Billie Jean have a flow that seems of their own, they both own you as soon as they start also MJ might have been talking about whet he called “The gravy” “The Jelly” both songs have a long build up intro before any vocals finally hit, that gave MJ the goosebumps and the goosebumps we feel when we hear Billie Jean startin is the goosebumps MJ felt upon hearing No Can Do starting, it’s an interpretation of the feeling the song created for him.
You'll need a long piece of paper and a new pen to write down all of their hits. One of the most amazing musical acts to ever come down the pike. No B.S. either. Daryl Hall is one of the finest performers to ever grace a stage.
No....I think a pencil and a sharpener would do the trick. Easier to fix all the spelling mistakes you make, when your hand gets tired of all that writing...
@@jonathanmoon86 It's incredible how they managed to make killer pop tunes using R&B hooks. There is no better white boy R&B singer on the planet than Hall. Edgar Winter is the one for the blues, but R&B is all Daryl Hall.
watching Daryl House opened up a whole different view of Daryl for me. He just seems like a very cool guy and down to earth and not some snobby musical genius who wrote many hit records.
These two guys are great, and I loved their music growing up, and still do. I don’t think they had enough recognition compared to some of the so called icons in the music world today. Only my humble opinion of course.
I went to a MLBaseball game where John Oates sang the National Anthem. I was floored! Although he rarely had the lead vocal when with H&O, if ever, he has an AMAZINGLY good voice.
They are truly so underrated musicians.. One of the best duo.. Excelent composers, singers, daryl one the best voice all time.. So much hits mostly in 80's humble guys.. What else?? Deserve more grammys
How are they underrated ? They have had a long list of hit records . They are hugely successful. They are like the most successful R&B duo in US music history. Everybody knows who they are. Using underrated every chance you get is overrated
Now since Quincy Jones did that interview everyone is questioning Michael Jackson's integrity as an artist. Everyone is inspired by something or someone.
@@agapereign Yeah! Wtf happened to him? Now doubt he has put together some wonderful music for generations but sounded like a mad crazy guy in that interview .
@@ksteiger I'm sorry to hear that. Even so, he is an incredible vocalist. I've been listening to Hall & Oates' music from the eighties to present day. It has aged quite well. I think one element that affords it that timeless quality is Darryl's signature vocalization. There's the nostalgic, sentimental factors, taking me back to the high school years, to be sure, but when I listen to their songs today, I find myself moved - unexpectedly. And 'I Can't Go For That' STILL impresses. That baseline rocks.
I love hall and oates and michael is great too.for michael to be inspired by them must be a great compliment. Both artists are legends. Being two "white kids"(as they put it) who grew up on soul & r&b music, You couldnt find more a talented duo besides the isley bros. than hall & oates. Theyre music is timeless .
You can hear the inspiration for Billie Jean in I can't go for that. Then, you can hear the inspiration of Caribbean Queen from Billie Jean. Music build on other music.
Very, very underrated! Daryl Haal and John Oates are the best rock and soulduo in music history for me. They still can gave them a grammy for all the great music they made and what made and makes people so happy with it In the Netherlands very underrated. There now are young people who like their music. It's timeless! It' school a pity, that they aren't much younger ( but they have the looks!) I saw Daryl Hall at paradiso Amsterdam Holland and at Vredenburg Utrecht Holland, in the beginning of the nineties, unfortunately without John Oates, but the concert was awesome!!! It' s great they have met each other! Their voices are wonderfull together!!! I will love their music most of all music, that's made, although I like a lot of music. A fan for life!!! ❤
I hear it now! Damn! But yeah, that's the 'right' way to write a song based on inspiration of another. In fact that's an established technique in songwriting, to draw inspiration from what you hear then apply your own ideas to create something new. In fact when you think about it, that principle applies to just about every human endeavor, it's fundamental to our progression.
Wow...how humble are hall n oates..absolutely fantastic guys....i think they just "inspired" me to go listen to their greatest hits c.d..a listen i always enjoy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Michael playfully used the word "stolen", but I get what he was saying! I definitely hear the similarities in both songs...it's there! Hall and Oates' music is in my head constantly and of course Michael Jackson's music is too...they are all great!!!
Michael did steal writing credits from everybody u could ask his producer who just came out last week saying the same thing. He was a fraud out of ideas
Love Hall & Oates (Sara Smile) but man, do I miss little Michael Jackson. He had a beautiful voice at a very tender age and was born to bring music, and dance, to the world. All the greatest leave the earth too soon.
To Daryl and John… I love you both. Thank you for the years of Inspiration you have brought (and still continue to bring) to the Music industry and to all of us…your fans. I hope and pray that you both come to an agreement soon.🫶🏻
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !* _Tappin' in from South Central LA_ I used to like watching Darryl's House when it was on TV. Seeing the OG musicians come together to perform songs was pretty kool to see.
I love it that they give credit to those who inspired them-really appreciate the Mayfield shout-out. I saw them in concert, opening for ELO, in Lexington, KY, in 1982. They blew ELO AWAY! And I'm saying that as a 'died-to-the-wool' Jeff Lynn fan. Hall and Oates is one of my favorite bands, great musicians!
I saw them both in Tampa a couple years ago (separate shows). I thought ELO put on a better "show", but the music was =. Artists that good are hard for me to compare. Going to see H&O again next month.
@@terrybuckley1556 the ELO set I saw was the 'Time' album. A few lights, bland stage, a backdrop that looked like a cardboard cutout of a city skyline. I love ELO, and Jeff Lynn is a genius, and the music was great! But on that particular stage, on that particular night, H&O outshined them.
De La Soul paid for the samples and were creative with "say no go". In fact, its arguable their use of Hall and Oats sample caused many young folks at the time to reconsider music which by radio categories had relagated Hall and Oats to the dusty aging soft rock stations and the occasional classic rock...And now Hall and Oats is a main stay of astute club music and dance heads...always respecting those sounds as if they were about to get on the dance floor at Studio 54 and rock the night away.....LOL
They are 2 bad mamma jammas; in the Haight in the 60’s and 70’s, while “working” one night, the house where I was chilling out the lady of the house put on Smile Sarah Smile, then You Make my Dreams Come True; they and Michael McDonald are MY FAVORITES OF ALL TIMES;
Mike was humble he was inspired by there song so he passed them he did not steal shit !! I love hall and oats as artist and as people and I'm glad that they cleared up that misconception
Hall & Oates are two of the most real down to earth honest guys on the planet. Every song is unique and sounds “Great.” They have millions of fans around the World.
Every creator rests on the shoulders of those who came before, that's how societies evolve. John's description of how he tries to ''feel'' like he was listening to one of his heroes when he writes a song just blew me away, right on. And Daryl is so cool, and so damn good looking, ahhhhhhhh...
I heard oats sing the national anthem on television filling in for Daryl Hall at a baseball game and I'm going to tell you what is one of the most amazing renditions of the national anthem I've ever heard I think that's the right word I want to use my brain don't work like it used to since my motorcycle wreck I don't know maybe does work but the same LOL anyway I was very impressed at how well oats sounded man it was great
I've heard a lot of music. In some I can hear MANY artists back rhythms, and parts of a riff. Sometimes at the beginning of a song, I think it's another song. This is very common. The problem comes about when the artist of the original gets peeved about it, which isn't very common. H and O just flow with it, as many do.
Sem, No. Daryl Hall has no reason at all to lie about Michael Jackson in any way. He would have nothing to gain by doing so. He's not some 2-bit leach claiming MJ sexually abused his child for a cash settlement. He's a fellow artist who's older than MJ would have been and had/has hundreds of millions of dollars of his own. MJ doesn't need to deny or confirm anything said here because if anything, DH's claim confirms that MJ was an honest, humble, thoughtful & respectful individual who felt the need to acknowledge any similarities between "I Can't Go For That" and "Billie Jean" to DH the first chance he had when they were in studio together -- which is synonymous to an apology and actually speaks very highly of Michael Jackson perfectly corroborating his character, which is the same one displayed in many, many Michael Jackson interviews over the years. It is perfectly in-line with the way Michael Jackson has conducted himself in the past. No reason to be suspicious that DH was attempting any character assassination on MJ here WHAT SO EVER!
Sem, I really don't see any point to your first rebuttal comment or any of your comments after that. You are purely speculating and in the process suggesting Daryl Hall is lying while John Oats is compliment with those lies. Not to mention anyone else who was at the studio at the time that might confirm the story if asked to recall the session. Again, you say that you're not saying Daryl Hall is lying, but then you're suggesting he's lying because MJ never confirmed the story and there's no recording of the conversation? And how do you also know that MJ never acknowledged and/or apologized to Anderson, Vangelis, or even Donna Summer for that matter in the same informal way that he did with Daryl Hall? You don't know that he didn't. So, let me get this straight; according to you're brand of reason, everything that anyone has ever said that Michael Jackson said is a lie because MJ is not on tape saying it and he never confirmed it? It makes even less sense that DH would lie about this being that he never did, and never will need anything from MJ including an informal compliment/acknowledgment at some studio session. He would be risking his reputation by lying about such a beloved, high profile popular artist like Michael Jackson -- he would have way too much to lose.
So now you're suggesting that DH lied about MJ because anyone would believe anything negative about him. Only problem is that DH's story actually makes MJ look good & humble, not bad. Let's apply the same logic to the Jones/Anderson conversation. So how do you know for sure that Quincy Jones said what he said to Jon Anderson? Is there a tape of the conversation? Maybe they're both lying because they know anyone will believe anything negative about MJ. Also, while the bass-lines are identical only different tempos, it could have been a subconscious ripoff. I've written many songs that sound nearly identical to other stuff. Not because I purposely set out to steal someone else's material, but because it was stored in my memory and eventually came out in a different form. And again, how would you know MJ didn't do the same with Summer or anyone else even remotely involved with State of Independence? They were all huge stars, I'm sure they ran into each other at various events and were probably friends. It's perfectly reasonable to suggest that MJ mentioned the same to Summer since she had success with the track. She didn't need to have written the song for it to come up in conversation. True, some high profile people might lie about MJ for whatever reason, I'll give you that. But I see no reason to believe DH lied about anything here. My original point still applies. You're calling Daryl Hall a lair through pure speculation. Now please go away. I have to go to the bathroom.
Another thing is, we only know the finished song. When MJ was writing Billie Jean, at first, it may have sounded more like I Can't Go For That, but he tweaked the song to the point that it sounded very different in the end. And maybe in the back of MJ's mind, he can still hear the similarity, hence the conversation he had with Darryl.
It is just very strange and sad that Hall and Oates have never won a single Grammy while much much lesser musicians (of today especially) make the award ceremony their own.
Unfortunatly thats nothing new been going on forever and will continue
Timing. They were competing in an era full of musical giants.
Shock: SO true!!!
Deen Ali This is an UNBELIEVABLE factoid. Talk about injustice.
I didn't know that. That's criminal
I wish this generation could go back, for a moment in time, late 70's through the mid-late 80's and witness just how big Hall & Oates were at that time. They are still that talented.
your confused
@@kevinnoble4731 you can't spell....
@@mkat4271 sorry didn’t realize the spelling bee genius was here
@@kevinnoble4731 I guess you don't realize alot of stuff.
@@mkat4271 don’t worry I realize what you are
It's been 40 years since I first heard these guys and they are still my favorite band.
I respect Hall & Oates so much for keeping the MJ issue as not being such a big deal like the media makes it out to be.
Can't sell copy if it isn't sensational, they think.
You mean the kid diddling?
I love hall and oats heard them as a child way before Micheal Jackson as all I had was the 1 radio station half the day it was country, . Epic music sent around a team to my school to play the video to thriller , after that they finally played thriller , didn't sound as good as it did from the record with stereo headphones, a year later . The video I arrived late for , so .... anyhow no similarities between the two songs. Exactly as Daryle Hall said. These guys are soul smooth funky coffee house , really good esp Maneater , Micheal Jackson, just at another level when I first heard thriller the album, on headphones 🎧, wow its like music had been re invented , blew my socks off
I'm not saying they don't handle the situation perfectly, like real professionals should, but they also know if anyone took the case to court, they'd immediately lose. Melodies are so important in determining whether one song "ripped off" another, and no jury in the world would ever confuse one of these songs with another.
Listen to " Caribbean Queen" and " Like a Virgin" and tell me they didn't steal from Billie Jean
40 years later, and Daryl Hall and John Oates are STILL Amazing!!!
the question is, ' I can't go for that ' can't go for what?
can't go for a crap, can't join the army, can't get out of bed, what does it mean?
And great in concert! Just saw them a few weeks ago.
Maneater is killer..
@@Afrimusican hall and goats were great, excellent songs like Sarah, rich girl ect, unfortunately the biggest hit they had was maneater, the worst song they ever did, a bit like rock n roll legend Chuck berry, his biggest hit? my dingaling.
I like Hall & Oates. Their musical portfolio is friggin amazing!
Truly!!!
The guitar intro to “Sarah Smile” is killer
@@stephenfiore9960 Indeed
Just saw them in concert a few weeks ago. Still amazing!
They are STILL spectacular in concert too!
Really appreciate this clip because all musicians are naturally interested in other people's music and have things they dig and it plays always in a corner of their mind. To draw on other's music as inspiration is a great thing. To steal is another. Anyone who understands music and researchs the musicians can tell the difference. These two guys are the real deal. I can go for that
AS a founding member of THE TEMPTONES, I am honored to say that I was in the studio sitting next to Daryl when he was laying down the track for I Can't Go For That with guitarist GE Smith. Electric Lady Studios in Greenwich Village.The song was still in pieces but very funky even that way.
I bet the honor went both ways
a life I could never even imagine
GE Smith from the SNL band?
@@nuge1717 yes
My life is so boring! 😭
@@edp3202
an exciting life can be costly
there are millions upon millions of us, just like you
“Everytime I write a song I think Im writing a Curtis Mayfield song.” Amazing how a true musical songwriter thinks, trying to capture the sound of a great like Mayfield but it comes out as their own classic.
Same happened with Coldplay's "The Scientist," inspired by the George Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity"...
Thanks Mr Hall And Mr Oats for explaining how the creative process works!!
Robert Allen exactly
Oates
@@donaldfewell9929 if you're gonna correct misspellings, then... proper names are always capitalized, "donald".
One of my all-time fave Daryl Hall songs was one he never actually released as a single, but when British singer Paul Young recorded Hall's "Every Time You Go Away", it became a smash hit in the U.S. and U.K. in 1985. All of this success coincided with the "Live Aid" festivities around that time. Great memories 🤗
DUDE!! I swear I alwasy thought that sounded like hall and oats
Hall & Oats did release that song. Paul Young remade it afterwards. Its on their Voice Album
I think Daryl does a version of that on Daryls House- I love that song, and the show
Daryl Hall performed that song on their 1986 album "Live At The Apollo" when they performed with Eddie Kendrick and David Ruffin of the Temptations. He announced that he would be singing it in its original arrangement which as you stated was on "Voices".
Had no idea Hall wrote that. Thanks for info!
Hall & Oats deserve awards. Great group!
When will people finally understand the difference between "stolen", "sampled" and "inspired by"???
Thank you Hall & Oats for your common sense...which is unfortunately not so common!
DJ SOULCHILD I know right? Have you heard the NEW word on the street???
Mrtrilltyler Steal a dictionary.
DJ SOULCHILD when people (artists) look at it as a way to sue another artist for money. good on you Hall & Oates.
You say tomato...
Marsha Scott... "White singers"???????? So now only white singers steal music???? That is so fucking racist it's ridiculous. Farrell literally is who produced the song as well as Happy which is even more of an apparent ripoff of Marvin Gay than Blurred lines. I don't care if you are white, black or pink with purple dots your comment is small minded and racist.
Now that's a class act up there. Speaking the truth! We forget that few ideas are new and we are inspired every day of our lives in on way or another.
Rest in Peace 🤴 M.J. you gave more to the world than you got back.
Such gentlemen. Michael Jackson had thousand of random people sue him, saying he “stole their music”. It’s actually sad and inspiring to watch hours of the actual deposition of Michael put these people to shame as he spoke, sang, beat boxed and mentally went through the evolution and creation of some of his greatest music.
Too bad he was a pos pedophile
These guys aren't suing.
Michael approached him and stated that he stole it to make billy jean...he also says that billy jean is a different song and was not really the same, so flattered but slightly confused as to why Michael would say it was stolen...
I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.
Couldn't ever imagine the 70s and 80s without these guys music some of the best.
I believe Eddie Van Halen said he was inspired by the guitar bridge in 'Kiss on My List' to write the synthesizer bridge in 'Jump'. As with the Billie Jean/I Can't Go for That bass I can absolutely hear where MJ would've been inspired by that to come up with the Billie Jean hook.
It was actually the synth part from “kiss on my list” according to what Eddie Van Halen told Daryl Hall. However come to think of it it sounds a lot more like “Dreams” than “Jump” (the beginning part of the song when the drums start). Listen to them both carefully, Dreams sounds a lot more like Kiss on my list
@@billykokkinidis Eddie despite what people say about Eddie, he was generally a nice guy. He didn't even get paid for the guitar work he did for Michael Jackson, I heard him say in an interview once and didn't even seem to care. Most artists would be suing for back pay and royalties, Eddie didn't give a shit.
@@JENDALL714 eddie is a good guy. He even helped pay for jason beckers medical expenses and gave him one of his guitars. Its was a tremendous loss the day he died
Stole??? Michael said it that way to give props to H&O. And they deserve it bc i love those blue-eyed soul brothers! (Big ups to Michael McDonald & the Doobie brothers!!)
@@JENDALL714 Took him 20 minutes and they did two takes ....and a little side note: Per an interview with David Lee Roth, Edward had the "Beat It" solo laying around for years and could never find the right Van Halen song to use it in.....when he was asked to perform the solo on "Beat It" he dusted it off and made it work for "Beat It" and history was made.
What humble, kind, and TALENTED men! They handled that question wonderfully, no backstabbing, no lying, no posturing, no dissing, just humble storytelling. They are the BEST!❤
Totally right on. I don't need to comment, you have done it for me
Two of the greatest songwriters ever imo !!!
And they are flat out cool guys to boot ...
Two of the classiest artists to ever lay a track down.
Oates is a Janetty
I've been to 3 of their concerts over the years. Truly talented guys. Always on my BEST list !
I went to their concert at riverbend last year. Excellent
Oates is the dude! Love how humble he is in his creative output.
i always remember the soulful voice of Hall in Sara Smile, a great group deserving of more
It’s so cool to see & hear John talk too! Hall & Oats are the most successful male duo EVER. Growing up every song they released went to the top - What’s cool is my dad God rest his soul is who turned me onto them we love them together and I think about him every time I hear any Hall & Oates song…. Leaves me with that nostalgic yet wanting to move/DANCE & sing along feeling… like I did with my dad. So cool. Really love their music & always admired John for being so incredibly humble.
I'm actually proud to hear this interview.usually the artist(s) bitch and sue instead of coming together..be inspired!! For MJ to be inspired by anyone is an amazing thing to hear about
Sometimes are not the artists themselves. The record conpanies or the rights owner instead. Not all artists own the whole rights of their works.
We all create off each other, that's an artist! Damn Quincy.
People who make dresses are using someone elses' prints, and those prints probably came from a print from somewhere else.
What I don't understand about QJ is that he's badmouthing MJ about doing it, but he went along with it and produced it anyway (?) What does that say about him?
Its called influences. Jackson and Prince should have given all their money to James Brown
Yeah, what Quincy did was take ideas from their song something that has been done a million times. Much different from actually stealing songs come on Debra.
@@blackturkdog Jackson anyway. Prince actually wrote his own songs and played his own instruments.
@@Mozart1220 true but times you can see his influences. Also, in later years around the 90s , Prince was sampling other artists
H n O recorded some of the best music ever. Catchy and memorable. Hope they are doing good.
Agreed 👍👍
Yes I just saw them in Tampa last night. Fantastic show
"... best music ever" Don't be silly.
I met John Oates out of pure randomness, thanks to my sister in law who works in the music industry here in Nashville.
Most humble, down to earth, nicest guy you’ll ever meet. Funny thing is my SIL knew him from being in the music industry, she acted as if he was just another regular person while I’m over here with my jaw open to the floor screaming in my brain…..that’s John Oats!!!!
😂👍🏻
I love ❤️ MJ and the way MJ ask hall and oats about their song that’s cool 😎
Two of the most underrated artists of our day. 💖
saw them. incredible talent. great show. still can't believe the came to New Hampshire .
What makes you think they're underrated? They're pretty damn legendary in the music world
I think you got this wrong. MJ did NOT use Hall & Oates for Billie Jean but if you want to see something. Go view Hall & Oates 1st hit from 1975 called Sarah Smile and you will see the beat is VERY similar to the Jackson 5 1971 hit Maybe Tomorrow. Now that's something you can EASILY see.
NOT! inducted rock roll hall of fame!
Daryl Hall is the one with the talent. The other guy wasn’t needed at all.
Both No Can Do and Billie Jean have a flow that seems of their own, they both own you as soon as they start also MJ might have been talking about whet he called “The gravy” “The Jelly” both songs have a long build up intro before any vocals finally hit, that gave MJ the goosebumps and the goosebumps we feel when we hear Billie Jean startin is the goosebumps MJ felt upon hearing No Can Do starting, it’s an interpretation of the feeling the song created for him.
You'll need a long piece of paper and a new pen to write down all of their hits.
One of the most amazing musical acts to ever come down the pike. No B.S. either.
Daryl Hall is one of the finest performers to ever grace a stage.
No....I think a pencil and a sharpener would do the trick. Easier to fix all the spelling mistakes you make, when your hand gets tired of all that writing...
My paper is still blank..lol
Darryl has always been my favorite male singer! My favorite female singer?....probably the lead for the Bee Gees 😆
@@jonathanmoon86 It's incredible how they managed to make killer pop tunes using R&B hooks.
There is no better white boy R&B singer on the planet than Hall.
Edgar Winter is the one for the blues, but R&B is all Daryl Hall.
@@petecartwright5211 Michael McDonald? Or is he soul?
watching Daryl House opened up a whole different view of Daryl for me. He just seems like a very cool guy and down to earth and not some snobby musical genius who wrote many hit records.
I love that show.
@@joetartaglia607 ikr?
Totally! I didn't realize what a true musician he is
Who's Daryl House? Are trying to say Daryl Hall of Hall and Oates?
@@tj.espygil4544 yes that same Daryl look it up on youtube
These two guys are great, and I loved their music growing up, and still do. I don’t think they had enough recognition compared to some of the so called icons in the music world today. Only my humble opinion of course.
"Sarah Smile" is all I have to say
I went to a MLBaseball game where John Oates sang the National Anthem. I was floored! Although he rarely had the lead vocal when with H&O, if ever, he has an AMAZINGLY good voice.
They are truly so underrated musicians.. One of the best duo.. Excelent composers, singers, daryl one the best voice all time.. So much hits mostly in 80's humble guys.. What else?? Deserve more grammys
Yes. Darryl is one of the greatest singers in the last century.
That is serious hyperbole😂
How are they underrated ? They have had a long list of hit records . They are hugely successful. They are like the most successful R&B duo in US music history. Everybody knows who they are. Using underrated every chance you get is overrated
@@tommyhaynes9157 maybe the correct word is recognized. They deserve more recognition
Great songs from the 80s thank you Mr hall and Mr oates
Now since Quincy Jones did that interview everyone is questioning Michael Jackson's integrity as an artist. Everyone is inspired by something or someone.
Quincy Jones is still butt hurt that MJ used different producers for the "Dangerous" album.
Quincy has become a messy old geezer. I can’t wait for his skeletons to fall out of HIS closet.
@@agapereign Yeah! Wtf happened to him? Now doubt he has put together some wonderful music for generations but sounded like a mad crazy guy in that interview .
Thanks for the interview. Would like to see it all. Love Hall & Oates and the music they gave us..
Time To Watch & Listen To Hall & Oates For A Couple Of Hours!!! Thanks You For A Great Interview
Thankyou for the great music!🎤🎼🎻💕💯
Hall and Oates are very understanding and humble, two things Quincy isn't
I worked with Daryl. If it's one thing he isn't, it's humble.
@@ksteiger was he at least a nice guy? A person can have a ego and still be nice, also very cool that you did work with him
@@ksteiger I'm sorry to hear that. Even so, he is an incredible vocalist. I've been listening to Hall & Oates' music from the eighties to present day. It has aged quite well. I think one element that affords it that timeless quality is Darryl's signature vocalization. There's the nostalgic, sentimental factors, taking me back to the high school years, to be sure, but when I listen to their songs today, I find myself moved - unexpectedly. And 'I Can't Go For That' STILL impresses. That baseline rocks.
@@ksteiger ROFLOL. I heard from someone who booked them that the entire crew soup to nuts ( no pun intended ) was gay.
LOVE Hall & Oates
Love these guys- thanks for sharing this with us.
I got to see them in concert last year. I am 77 yo. Fabulous show. Unforgettable. They are as great today as they were in the 70s and 80s.
Daryl and John are true legends
Nuff said!!!!
They both seems to be humble and down to earth. That story with Michael Jackson proves it.
Two great but under appreciated artists.
Outstanding musicians, one of the best for me. I like all their songs even it's already 2021.
Hall & Oats are still in my daily playlist! So is MJ💖
Once you actually watch the video, you understand the title and why "stole" is in parentheses. People are triggered by everything these days lol
Rising ATLien how many people went on a rant in the comments before even watching the video? Sad
Aren’t my boys Hall & Oates KOOL ? Sir Curtis Mayfield inspiration, couldn’t pick a more soulful artist.
Daryl Hall and John Oates are AMAZING!!! Best show I've ever seen live!
I love Hall and Oates SO MUCH. They're perfect.
These guys really are national treasures.
I love them being interviewed!! Love y'all still
I love hall and oates and michael is great too.for michael to be inspired by them must be a great compliment. Both artists are legends. Being two "white kids"(as they put it) who grew up on soul & r&b music, You couldnt find more a talented duo besides the isley bros. than hall & oates. Theyre music is timeless .
Thank Daryl and John for clearing up.
This short video really makes you appreciate Hall and Oates. They are an incredible duo, grammys or not.
wow what genuine nice guys, shame interview so short
Blurred Lines doesn't sound exactly like Marvin Gaye. It uses similar timbres but the grooves are clearly different
You can hear the inspiration for Billie Jean in I can't go for that. Then, you can hear the inspiration of Caribbean Queen from Billie Jean. Music build on other music.
Tariq Busy Very much the same song base line and all.
Tariq Busy well said
You are right, Tariq! People just keep open minded.
Tariq Busy Nice call
Tariq Busy Agreed!👍
Underrated talent beyond belief cats ! That’s a fact Jack.
Much love and respect to Hall and Oats, they been banging out hits for a while.
I love them. So underrated.
Very, very underrated! Daryl Haal and John Oates are the best rock and soulduo in music history for me. They still can gave them a grammy for all the great music they made and what made and makes people so happy with it
In the Netherlands very underrated. There now are young people who like their music. It's timeless! It' school a pity, that they aren't much younger ( but they have the looks!) I saw Daryl Hall at paradiso Amsterdam Holland and at Vredenburg Utrecht Holland, in the beginning of the nineties, unfortunately without John Oates, but the concert was awesome!!!
It' s great they have met each other! Their voices are wonderfull together!!! I will love their music most of all music, that's made, although I like a lot of music.
A fan for life!!! ❤
I hear it now! Damn! But yeah, that's the 'right' way to write a song based on inspiration of another. In fact that's an established technique in songwriting, to draw inspiration from what you hear then apply your own ideas to create something new.
In fact when you think about it, that principle applies to just about every human endeavor, it's fundamental to our progression.
Legends
Wow...how humble are hall n oates..absolutely fantastic guys....i think they just "inspired" me to go listen to their greatest hits c.d..a listen i always enjoy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I grew up listening to these guy's great music and the beats were everything. Stay humble❤😘🙏
Michael playfully used the word "stolen", but I get what he was saying! I definitely hear the similarities in both songs...it's there! Hall and Oates' music is in my head constantly and of course Michael Jackson's music is too...they are all great!!!
Being "inspired" is not stealing
Not quite...if the person who you are 'inspired' by didn't exist, then your song wouldn't either.
well he did steal yours, thats why crap spills out of your mouth
Michael did steal writing credits from everybody u could ask his producer who just came out last week saying the same thing. He was a fraud out of ideas
They were certainly a bit more gracious than Quincy, still much respect to Quincy.
Exactly their point.
Best duet in Rock n Roll History right there! Love those guys!
Love love love these two Wish they would record new music but I am happy to play the great music I grew up with
These two make beautiful music together.
Hall and Oates are AMAZING!!!!! Legends in the industry
Love Hall & Oates (Sara Smile) but man, do I miss little Michael Jackson. He had a beautiful voice at a very tender age and was born to bring music, and dance, to the world. All the greatest leave the earth too soon.
To Daryl and John…
I love you both. Thank you for the years of Inspiration you have brought (and still continue to bring) to the Music industry and to all of us…your fans.
I hope and pray that you both come to an agreement soon.🫶🏻
Two classy cats! Peace!
Pop music IS MJ and Hall & Oates. They proved pop music can be art. H&O are geniuses!
*Eastside Low Bottoms sh*t !*
_Tappin' in from South Central LA_
I used to like watching Darryl's House when it was on TV. Seeing the OG musicians come together to perform songs was pretty kool to see.
I love it that they give credit to those who inspired them-really appreciate the Mayfield shout-out. I saw them in concert, opening for ELO, in Lexington, KY, in 1982. They blew ELO AWAY! And I'm saying that as a 'died-to-the-wool' Jeff Lynn fan. Hall and Oates is one of my favorite bands, great musicians!
I saw them both in Tampa a couple years ago (separate shows). I thought ELO put on a better "show", but the music was =. Artists that good are hard for me to compare. Going to see H&O again next month.
@@terrybuckley1556 the ELO set I saw was the 'Time' album. A few lights, bland stage, a backdrop that looked like a cardboard cutout of a city skyline. I love ELO, and Jeff Lynn is a genius, and the music was great! But on that particular stage, on that particular night, H&O outshined them.
Hall And Oates are among my favorite musicians of all time.
De La Soul paid for the samples and were creative with "say no go". In fact, its arguable their use of Hall and Oats sample caused many young folks at the time to reconsider music which by radio categories had relagated Hall and Oats to the dusty aging soft rock stations and the occasional classic rock...And now Hall and Oats is a main stay of astute club music and dance heads...always respecting those sounds as if they were about to get on the dance floor at Studio 54 and rock the night away.....LOL
They are 2 bad mamma jammas; in the Haight in the 60’s and 70’s, while “working” one night, the house where I was chilling out the lady of the house put on Smile Sarah Smile, then You Make my Dreams Come True; they and Michael McDonald are MY FAVORITES OF ALL TIMES;
Private Eyes was the first music video I ever saw on MTV. I was in kindergarten and it blew me away
They were the first concert my wife and I ever went to together in 2016 and they rocked it!!!
These guys are truly a class act.
If you have never been to a Hall & Oates concert you have missed one of the best.
There were a lot cooler bands to see back then. But now that I'm old, you're probably right.
Love hearing Daryl & John talk & their music rocks too. A good combo
*these guys are great and helped artists make music videos in 80’s* ⭐️
Mike was humble he was inspired by there song so he passed them he did not steal shit !! I love hall and oats as artist and as people and I'm glad that they cleared up that misconception
Michael totally stole their song.
Hall & Oates are two of the most real down to earth honest guys on the planet. Every song is unique and sounds “Great.” They have millions of fans around the World.
Great interview
Always enjoyed these guys music and they've had many hits here in Australia
There’s only so many notes and chords… inevitably, things can tend to sound familiar(ish)
Every creator rests on the shoulders of those who came before, that's how societies evolve. John's description of how he tries to ''feel'' like he was listening to one of his heroes when he writes a song just blew me away, right on. And Daryl is so cool, and so damn good looking, ahhhhhhhh...
hall and oates was the first concert i saw after covid lockdown bullshit. thanks for the good time guys!
I heard oats sing the national anthem on television filling in for Daryl Hall at a baseball game and I'm going to tell you what is one of the most amazing renditions of the national anthem I've ever heard I think that's the right word I want to use my brain don't work like it used to since my motorcycle wreck I don't know maybe does work but the same LOL anyway I was very impressed at how well oats sounded man it was great
Two class act dudes.
I've heard a lot of music. In some I can hear MANY artists back rhythms, and parts of a riff. Sometimes at the beginning of a song, I think it's another song. This is very common. The problem comes about when the artist of the original gets peeved about it, which isn't very common.
H and O just flow with it, as many do.
That was very honest of Michael Jackson to apologize for something he didn't even do. Those 2 bass lines are not the same.
Well Sem, he actually said that he hopes Daryl Hall don't mind if he stole No Can Do and used it for Billie Jean, which is akin to an apology.
Sem, No. Daryl Hall has no reason at all to lie about Michael Jackson in any way. He would have nothing to gain by doing so. He's not some 2-bit leach claiming MJ sexually abused his child for a cash settlement. He's a fellow artist who's older than MJ would have been and had/has hundreds of millions of dollars of his own. MJ doesn't need to deny or confirm anything said here because if anything, DH's claim confirms that MJ was an honest, humble, thoughtful & respectful individual who felt the need to acknowledge any similarities between "I Can't Go For That" and "Billie Jean" to DH the first chance he had when they were in studio together -- which is synonymous to an apology and actually speaks very highly of Michael Jackson perfectly corroborating his character, which is the same one displayed in many, many Michael Jackson interviews over the years. It is perfectly in-line with the way Michael Jackson has conducted himself in the past. No reason to be suspicious that DH was attempting any character assassination on MJ here WHAT SO EVER!
Sem, I really don't see any point to your first rebuttal comment or any of your comments after that. You are purely speculating and in the process suggesting Daryl Hall is lying while John Oats is compliment with those lies. Not to mention anyone else who was at the studio at the time that might confirm the story if asked to recall the session. Again, you say that you're not saying Daryl Hall is lying, but then you're suggesting he's lying because MJ never confirmed the story and there's no recording of the conversation? And how do you also know that MJ never acknowledged and/or apologized to Anderson, Vangelis, or even Donna Summer for that matter in the same informal way that he did with Daryl Hall? You don't know that he didn't. So, let me get this straight; according to you're brand of reason, everything that anyone has ever said that Michael Jackson said is a lie because MJ is not on tape saying it and he never confirmed it? It makes even less sense that DH would lie about this being that he never did, and never will need anything from MJ including an informal compliment/acknowledgment at some studio session. He would be risking his reputation by lying about such a beloved, high profile popular artist like Michael Jackson -- he would have way too much to lose.
So now you're suggesting that DH lied about MJ because anyone would believe anything negative about him. Only problem is that DH's story actually makes MJ look good & humble, not bad. Let's apply the same logic to the Jones/Anderson conversation. So how do you know for sure that Quincy Jones said what he said to Jon Anderson? Is there a tape of the conversation? Maybe they're both lying because they know anyone will believe anything negative about MJ. Also, while the bass-lines are identical only different tempos, it could have been a subconscious ripoff. I've written many songs that sound nearly identical to other stuff. Not because I purposely set out to steal someone else's material, but because it was stored in my memory and eventually came out in a different form. And again, how would you know MJ didn't do the same with Summer or anyone else even remotely involved with State of Independence? They were all huge stars, I'm sure they ran into each other at various events and were probably friends. It's perfectly reasonable to suggest that MJ mentioned the same to Summer since she had success with the track. She didn't need to have written the song for it to come up in conversation. True, some high profile people might lie about MJ for whatever reason, I'll give you that. But I see no reason to believe DH lied about anything here. My original point still applies. You're calling Daryl Hall a lair through pure speculation. Now please go away. I have to go to the bathroom.
Another thing is, we only know the finished song. When MJ was writing Billie Jean, at first, it may have sounded more like I Can't Go For That, but he tweaked the song to the point that it sounded very different in the end. And maybe in the back of MJ's mind, he can still hear the similarity, hence the conversation he had with Darryl.
Two of the coolest cats ever and most talented