New Sabvoton/Dashboard and eBike Update | 8kW Enduro MSVA eBike V3 Build
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Link to 3D clip files - www.thingiverse.com/thing:484...
So the new Sabvoton SVMC72150 has arrived along with the CT-22 dashboard/speedometer from QS motor. I've had to take the bike apart to get the controller in but that gives be a good chance to make some changes and do a timelapse of the whole process 😁 Apart from that, I haven't been up to that much as I haven't been able to buy any parts so I'll show you what I've got in the pipeline instead. Enjoy!
Main parts used so far:
Frame - www.alibaba.com/product-detai... (actually bought on ebay from djanowicz but would now recommend www.cloudsto.com/ebikes/frame...)
3000W Motor - alienpowersystem.com/shop/bru...
ANT-BMS - www.cloudsto.com/ebikes/bms-1...
Controller - www.aliexpress.com/item/10050... (Try and look for one with adjustable regen connector and motor temp sensor)
Dashboard - www.aliexpress.com/item/40009...
Moto Seat - www.alibaba.com/product-detai... (Again, bought from ebay but this is the style)
Aluminium 18” Rims - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aluminium-...
Michelin City ProTyres - www.tyretectrading.co.uk/mich...
DNM USD-8 Forks - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DNM-USD-8-...
Cells:
This is the seller on endless sphere forum endless-sphere.com/forums/mem....
And here are the datasheets and pictures - endless-sphere.com/forums/vie...
Contact him if you like them and you can either collect from London or have them posted in europe i believe. - Věda a technologie
This pc build looks goated bro ⚡️💰
I watch all your vids bro thankx for doing them.
😁
Some rubber stand offs will help with vibes
nice vid. can u make a video on the ct 22 display wiring
Hi. Thanks for the video. I am wondering where you got that relay in the video from at 5:40. Also how is the battery pack holding up since you built it? Thanks
Link to the relays www.ebay.co.uk/itm/263560749851?var=562604199434. I haven't been using the bike at all yet so can't comment on the pack long term yet, but I will definitely keep the channel updated and do a long term review in the future! So far very impressed though
How did you hook up the display with no display connector coming out of the controller? Reason I ask cause I just bought one of these controllers and there’s no display connector?
So how did you wire up the Display? You said you would do a video. Please do. Thanks for your service.
Hi! Please tell me, I don't have a wire on sabvoton that goes to the temperature sensor of the wheel motor. Where can it be soldered?
Greetings and respect to you and your CZcams channel, I have the same frame ( clone stealth bomber) and I purchased the same batterys, from the same chap , I wanted to know what bms shall I use if I get a asi bac 8000 ?
Dash looks cool. Does it have built in tell tale lights for indictors etc?
Yep, indicators, high beam, and speed modes. Pretty neat!
@@EverythingEbikeChannel How do you connect all of that to the controller?
Many many of the LED headlights and other led bars from aliexpress support up to 80v, So you don't need buck CONVERTER. Unless you have something specific that you know has to be 12v. I bought many leds from there, on the ad says 12v but I connected straight on my 18s battery and it works fine.
I have a question about your wheels size. Between 17, 18 and 19 inches. Which one is best for a high power application on a common bicycle frame?
Love your build!
Cheers
Even if the headlight was 80v, the dashboard and indicators require 12v. With the wheel sizes it depends what you want. 17" gives better acceleration and 19" gives better top speed but I don't actually know how much of a difference you would feel. And 18" is a halfway house.
great job and great video. Can you share the 3d files for your screen. I have the same one but I have no mount your cover below the screen.
Just uploaded them to thingiverse www.thingiverse.com/thing:4845666
Hello, great job and great videos ! I actually building an Ebike my self, Enduro Frame, sabvoton 72150, qs motor 205 5000w and 20s20p batterie (LGMJ1). I waiting for the controller and display (same as yours). I was wondering about the key switch that you use, do you wire it directly to your battery + or do you use a mofset ?
Good to hear someone else building one! It connects between battery positive and the e-ignition wire sabvoton. I think it turns off the power to the 5v rail (not 100% sure) so basically disables the controller and instantly cuts power to the motor so can be used like a kill switch. On my old bike, I used 4 mosfets in parallel to connect the batteries but that becomes a bit more of a challenge with this much current and the BMS can do all that anyway.
Thank you for your answer, I was afraid that wiring a 12v switch to the battery + will destroy the switch (I saw someone that put a mofset between the battery and the switch to avoid this. Personally I would like to use a button (start engine) to fire up the controller.
@@krycesheppard5150 You could get a latching push button or solid state relay to do that?
@@EverythingEbikeChannel sorry I’m not sure to understand the question, can we talk on Messenger or something else ?
@@krycesheppard5150 email me on cgouldstone45@gmail.com
How did you wire your ebrake, the controller has three wires but the switch i have for my ebrake only has two wires.
You could use the switch to connect the 5v and sensor wires on the connector which will trigger regen when switch is pressed. Those connectors are meant for a 3 wire throttle but can be modded like I said.
hi mate just wonder if it possible to limit the current to 100a or lower on the 72150 controller?
You can limit it as low as you want. You can also limit the speed but keep the full power as well.
Добрый день. Есть сомнения по подключению одной ручки газа на 2 контроллера. Правильно ли я понимаю что нужно просто заппарралеоить 3 провода от ручки с 2 контурами по цветам. Или всё таки какую-то диодную развязку делать? Не могу найти схему в сети может вы что подскажете?
I'm not really sure if you can use one throttle on two controllers. In theory I can't see why as they would both receive the same signal but am not the best person to ask!
Waiting for parts for my 10kw bike, gonna need a new motor soon so going to be waiting a long time 😢
Urgh I know the feeling of waiting 😁
hello, how did you connect tft display? i have received the same controller, but i don't see and hub to connect display, this is Sabvoton 72150 v1 right? when you connected it, can you make guide please?
Check out Part 18, I do a run through on how I've connected mine up. It's not plug and play so every bike will be different but gives you a general idea
Can you repair your old controller? Have the same issue, need to get a new one. Your previous LCD wasnt good? Why you replaced? ... managed to fit 72V in the same frame with the same battery
I wasn't able to fix my old controller unfortunately but if I had a reflow oven I might have been able to solder the microcontroller in properly. My old LCD I used on V2 worked with the VESC so I'd have to reprogram it which would be quite hard to get it to do the odometer. Also this one looks much cooler!
If you have low voltage will your sabvoton still conect to bluetooth.
I think so...
What app you used on the phone?
VBMS for the BMS. It's £5.99 I think but well worth it as it's all in English and supports Tony over at Vortecks. Android only though...
What wire connection on the sabvaton takes the display
The only connections between the sabvoton and the display are the hall speed output and mode selection switch. The other lighting isn't controlled by the sabvoton.
Wow I have many question of your ebike battery
what is the battery size ?? mm size please (not inch)
That's looook so much fit
and 28 serial connection ??
what is the battery capacity?
Size is about 310x240x135mm and a 14s2p pack with 40ah. Check out parts 6,7,8 where I build the pack for more info.
hi, how did you manage to destroy your controller?
I had just finished rewiring the motor and used some thin wire to connect it up incase I'd done something wrong. One of the wires was slightly burned out (didn't realise at the time) so had a high resistance ironically confused the controller and killed it instead 🙄 Just my luck!
I only have the iPhone app to program the sabvoton. Where can I find that desktop program?
It's called Sabvoton controller driver www.siaecosys.com/list/?spm=a2g0s.imconversation.0.0.1ce23e5fkrZw0B&classid=102
@@EverythingEbikeChannel thanks
Hi How are you ? I have just come across your channel and would like to ask some questions. 1- Can you connect two hub motors to a sabvoton controller ? And if yes How? 2- if Not possible how do you connect two Sabvoton Controllers to a single Throttle ? I await your reply, Thank you in advance.
You could connect two sabvotons to a single throttle just by putting the 5v, signal and gnd wires from the throttle connectors in parallel then connecting them to the throttle itself. Two motors to one controller won't work as the hall sensor signals will be different for each one and will muck up the sabvoton. I believe you can get some models of sabvoton with a CAN bus interface too so could digitally pass on the throttle signal but not sure of the details on that...
Hey man I’m using the same sabvoton and bms as you. can I get in contact with you so we can have a look at what settings your using? I’m having trouble setting mine up! I would really appreciate it! 🤙
Yes mate, my email is in the 'About' section on the channel homepage
@@EverythingEbikeChannel can’t see it there?
@@HazBuzz cgouldstone45@gmail.com
I just got my Sabvoton 72150 and got it all hooked up, but no matter what combination of halls and phase wires I do they read in the order 1>3>2>6>4>5 or 1>5>4>6>2>3 and fail the hall test with fail3 which means incorrect hall/phase wire combo. These are my hall voltages with a color matched setup: (and no I don't know why yellow is 5v and green/blue are 3v, maybe the Chinese used 2 different sensor types???)
1=yellow 5v
5=yellow 5v, blue 3v
4=blue 3v
6=green 3v, blue 3v
2=green 3v
3=yellow 5v, green 3v
The Sabvoton is looking for the following to be in the right order:
1=yellow 5v
2=green 3v
3=yellow 5v, green 3v
4=blue 3v
5=yellow 5v, blue 3v
6=green 3v, blue 3v
as you can see the pattern doesn't match up, my motor reads 1-2-1-2-1-2... but the Sabvoton wants 1-1-2-1-2-2... I have no idea what to do any advise would be much appreciated!!
Motor(standard direct drive hub) is known working on another sensored controller.
First thing that comes to mind is hall sensor failure. They should all be reading 5v and that's certainly what the sabvoton is expecting. I don't know much about what order the hall sensors are meant to trigger in but you can get devices that test if they are working correctly like this amzn.to/2PbmBgL or there are articles on how to do it yourself ebikes.ca/documents/HallSensorTestingFinal.pdf
@@EverythingEbikeChannel Thanks, I have messaged the seller as well and if they don’t know whats happening I’ll get a tester. I do find it strange that they arn’t all 5v but the Sabvoton is definitely reading the signal regardless and can be seen in the MQCON software that’s how I know what pattern the Sabvoton is seeing. This pattern is very consistent and repeats around the whole wheel. I have since compared the phase pattern with another similar hub motor on my friends bike and the pattern is the same. I am hoping I just have some setting wrong and that it is an easy fix otherwise I’ll have to put the old controller back on for this summer.
@@mitchellwilson12354 So did the sabvoton pass the test with the other motor?
@@EverythingEbikeChannel I didn’t have a chance to hook the Sabvoton up the the other motor, I just used a voltmeter to measure the halls by probing the back of the hall connector and slowly turning the wheel with that bikes controller powered up. That motor had the same repeating pattern of colors as mine. The halls were all around 4ish volts when powered with the supply being around 5v.
I still haven’t gotten my motor to pass the hall test but I have found a combination of phase/halls that seems to run ok it starts smoothly from a stop even with low throttle and some resistance from my break pads. I’m just waiting on the weather to give it a quick test drive to see if it heats up real bad or not which should tell me if everything is working correctly.
@@mitchellwilson12354 Hmm can't quite tell whether it's the motor or controller at fault. Be careful about running the sabvoton without the hall test as it can get fried or behave erratically.
The swingarm should have torque arms already. No need for extra unless you grinded away some metal
They sort of do, but they haven't been made very well so there is quite a bit of slack. It might be ok but as usual I'm going ott 😁
@@EverythingEbikeChannel there shouldnt be much slack..they fit M16 pretty tightly. Its up to u tho
Hey I'm sending a message for help put about my ebike build. I put a 1 minute video up showing how I'm not getting the right amount of volts out of my bms and when I plug into my controller the volts drop down to 0 or 1 volt. Of you could watch the video and possibly help me out with some advice I would GREATLY appreciate it!
Whats ur battery voltage/cell count?
14s 51.8V nominal 58V max.
Awsome brother so glad to see your bike coming along..looks like you are going to have a wonderful ride this spring/summer! I just finished my my second performance test at 27k watts hit a top speed of 74.5mph..I got dialed it up to 28.5k watts and 45% field weakning for next test brother..I can't wait to see your ride back out on the streets👍🏽
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Hi , I have built a 8000watt 72 volt 150qmp enduro bike , it was supposed to of been delivered as a near completed bike from china , but they said because of Brexit they could only send in bits , any way got it in April , in bits , and guess what no assembly instructions and no wiring instructions , any way I looked at some you tube videos ,some helpful , including yours , now its built , and now the wiring , the Chinese company gave some pics of the sabvocon , but some of the wires don't match , I have the regulator/rectifier bolted , the key wires not sure were to attach , I connected wires to back light , but got stuck with the three wires from headlight , were to attach , and the brakes have wires, were to fit , if anyone can give me some info on the final wiring , would be most appreciated . if you can say how to test, etc , help Doug.
I've replied to your other comment so check that out
jeff your to kinf
Sorry don't quite understand?
Conrad, looks like your project is coming along well. Check out this scooter from Spain it's full of innovation.
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Frank.