Can You Boost/Supercharge Stock Motor LT1 Camaro/Corvette?
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
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You can boost anything but the question is how much boost can it safely take before disassemble lt1 is mainly limited by the lower half of the engine not being forged like the lt4 and the fuel system is limited. You probably could safely put a small procharger on and push the fuel system to it's limit without serious repercussions and daily drive it. If you want to get the max out of the stock fuel system you will need to cam the engine as well. There's a few examples on CZcams stock lt1's boosted and used as daily drivers with alot of miles recorded with no major issues. I personally would just keep it NA and go full nutz there's several NA lt1 builds pushing 600hp or more.
Well done. I boosted my 98 C5 with a non intercooled Magnuson several years ago. I became addicted to it. You know smaller pulley, Meth, had a great tuner. Smaller Pulley, Did NOT maintain my meth nozzle. BANG! pulled the heads. Broke a ring land on #7. Ate it too. I was doing banzi runs on the freeway trying to clear out the injectors with Sea Foam. That worked well, but i had thinned the oil and over heated the back 2 cylinders. I had removed the rear vent tube and blocked the vents off (Big Mistake). OK just closed a nice order at work so used the commission to Rebuiild and Upgrade. Added the Intercooler to the Magnuson, Mahle Pistons, H Beam Rods, Crane Cam, Springs and rockers, Balanced and blue printed. But with a stroker crank in mind the builder called to say #7 Sleeve is cracked. OK, Ordered a Cast Iron LS1 Block and reused the old crank with all the other new stuff. Engine was very very strong. 525 at the wheels Just a street car to scare women and children. which it did. Went through a few clutches, trannys and put in a 3.73 gear from Mallet. Finally had it all worked out. reliable and a best awesome instant torque. but then I found a Ron Fellows C6 Z06 I wanted and traded for it. The new owner of the 98 was older and rarely drove it. I had named the car a White 98 C5 with blister hood and 66 big block hood vents White Fang. After Soupy Sales dog in TV. But the new owner took hid brother in law for a ride and when they returned he renamed it Frankenstein. Below 3,000 RPM is was very normal but nail the gas and it will rip your head off. Recently he sold the 98 to another fellow and he called to ask about the motor. He had all the paper work I had included in the sale and thought it was using oil on one cylinder. I suggested Valve seals because I knew the lower end was very well built. Today I have a 2014 C7 and have been eyeballing that Vortech Kit from A&A versus Heads and Cam. I see you had the high rise holley intake did that help of more to scare folks. I had put a Vortech on my 81 C3 with a slightly built 350 and it was a Mustang eater. We had to use bigger injectors and pump there to but before intercoolers and meth was readily available power was kept down and mix was rich. Once you had boost there is no substitute. The C6 ZO6 was a let down after the 98. Sold it for a SS Sedan, boosted it with GM Roots but the car was too big and heavy after 40 years of Corvettes. Sold it and found this 2014 so now thinking its Boost time again, before I croak or get the C8 Z06 ($$$$$$$$), This is a nice Vette think A&A may be the way to go but with all the safetys you listed for sure, it adds up but you don't want to break the motor. Car only has 10,000 miles. Thank You for the vote of confidence to boost the LT1. Katech is hard to get to from Virginia, but i do like their approach. Dennis
Sounds like you've been living my dream sir!
@@michaeldyer6304 Save your money and try to find THE car then build it right and KEEP IT!. I have build many Corvettes 64, 79, 81, 93, 98, 07 ..... and wish I had anyone of them back.
Man you’ve been through a lot with your cars! Sounds like you have had quite the cool cars. The hi ram on my car definitely scares people. Katech is definitely worth the drive! If you end up wanting to take your car there, talk to Zach Deriue and tell him I sent you.
@@toakss148 I left off my 1st car a 47 Chevy 2 Dr coupe, I put a 57 Olds 371, 4spd Hydra and Olds rear end. I didn't really go thru them. At 72 I have had time to own more than the youngsters out there. But it seems we share a common passion. CARS.
people like you steer us straight..thanx buddy.
You can absolutely boost them! My Fifty year anniversary special edition has a 2.9 Whipple,long tube headers,roto fab, and I did add the Lt4 fuel pump and injectors and professionally tuned, made 600 wheel and no problems,stock internals
I was similar power on my SBE setup too
You must drive it like a granny
Yeah and 50 more whp and boom 🤣
My tuners said I don’t need fuel injectors on my procharger
You could beat on it with confidence if you build everything to specific hp ratings. For example: ford terminator cobra has Manley forged h beam rods, and Kellogg forged steel crankshaft. The non supercharged SN-95 do not. No automotive manufacturer would put forced induction on a NA design. That doesn’t mean you can’t get away with it, just be careful and tune properly.
6-speed manual = respect
Thank you!
All you need it forged rods and pistons
Great video man! I loved the procharger when i had mine on my g8, and good explanations. The killer for the LT1 stock bottom end is the heat and more importantly the lack of fueling. If you have the fuel the engine will typically last a lot longer. I ran nitrous with a stand alone on c16 to ensure the car was getting proper fueling along with the nitrous would reduce the intake temps as you were spraying haha.
Thank you! And yep keeping the heat in check and fueling is key on these.
Just a tip. Speaking with Julio (Alky Controls) about running straight M1 vs water/meth he suggests running straight m1 the cars love the added octane and timing also with it having a flash point of 70° it actually cools more efficiently than water/meth.
Thank you for helping out!
I ran the Magnuson on my 17 1LE with no issues.
Walked a number of stock Hellcats.
The extra cooling the 1LE comes with kept thing running cool.
NA cars are walking stock Hellcats. Not much of an accomplishment to be honest.
@@freak_5.042nah NA cars barely pull on the kitty’s he’s talking about walking them. Ain’t no damn way a NA car is walking a kitty yeah it’ll beat it by a car or fender but that’s it😂😂😂
Yep, you can boost. Already 11:5 to 1. Whipple with 2lb maybe 3 on pump. It takes 50+ hp to turn the blower.
It's not that you can't boost them it's the fact that when you do you become extremely limited due to the Di. We got screwed by Gm on this fuel system. Ford was actually smart for once and did port and direct injection on the gen 3 Coyote and its shows. Even with the Lt4 stuff you become limited pretty quick if you want to use any E85.
5 plus years with boost 8psi on my 16 2ss haven’t had a problem. It’s a manual transmission tho so no lifter problems
99% of people on the "forums" have no idea what they're talking about.
You are right about that.
They are living in their moms basement.They know nothing about cars they don’t even own one.They are just typing nonsense
Great video. I have the Magnuson 2650 kit on my 2017 A8 and I beat on it all the time. Hot lap it at the track and no issues. No upgrades to engine or fuel system. I plan on doing all upgrades this year though so things will change. I will say my tune as of right now is very conservative though.
Good to hear! Sounds like a beast
I admire you for taking that chance and letting us know ! But mine is staying stock cause I’m Not taking mine to the track it’s street only racing ! Anyway win some races and show us your slips and wins
This is just a street car too! It’s only meant for rolls as it’s stock drivetrain
Pray Tuning is the best in my experience.
Good context and info. Thansk bro !!
No problem
What pulley were you running at the time you did 610 whp? And can stock lt1 fueling handle 610 whp?
Hello All! I installed the stage 1 Edelbrock supercharger model 1570 on my 17 C7 GS M7 )(boost is 5.5-7.5psi/ 490-525rwhp) with the canned tune. I also routed a Mighty Mouse catch can for crank case pressure. The rest of the car is stock. The car is great and power delivery is amazing. I am also heading to California and want to track a handful of time on the track (Laguna Seca, Willow Springs). I've been having anxiety of the horror stories of blown engines and considering removing the blower. What are your thoughts
I would get a custom tune done. Canned tunes usually make the car run not as good as it good. You should be fine around that power
Turns out that I needed a inline check valve to catch can.
Chevy power 🔥
Whippeled and cammed my 2019 lt1 every thing is great ..but now dealing with high oil consumption ..ugh
What about Nitrous ?
Your right everyone says they can tune these LT’s but my car has check engine on and don’t idle right….
Yep, a lot of tuners claim they can.
You mentioned for an auto car to go with a PD blower vs a manual car with a procharger, just curious why one way over the other? Thanks, and great info
From what I’ve seen they just pull harder and put down better times. Procharged cars can still be phenomenal but the PD blower just seems to be easier to go faster times.
Can you please link the lt4 fuel parts? I saw on a website the whole kit for almost $3k.. so getting it for $1200 would be amazing! Thank you
The part numbers change all the time for them. What I did was call a dealership and get every part number then order it from sdpartsauto or gmpartsoutlet
How much all these cost you in total? Nice quality video btw☺️
I will make a video going over cost soon!
Good info bro👍
Thank you!
You're in Michigan I assume just by looking at your surroundings. I have a 2017 SS. What shop do you recommend? Did you use Katech for everything? I'm in Birmingham
I would go to Katech. They are the best shop around.
Been looking at the whipple kit and take it to RPM in North Carolina for tuning and labor
Good place to take it👍🏻
I have to slightly disagree with you on the drag hot lap...., ive taken my 18 ss m6 about 12 rounds back to back with no breaks down the 8th mile. Heat never went above normal temps. It also has the performance package from factory. Im not going to say no one will blow their car up by doing that but i didnt have a single issue with my boltons and factory tune. Great looking car btw!
This video is about boosted camaros not bolt on ones
@@toakss148 ok i guess i miss understood how you implied it.
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What blow off valve is that? Sounds great.
The Race bov from Procharger
Meth is what kills these cars when they've been boosted and daily driven. When the meth runs out, or a nozzle fails, they eat themselves. When the meth works right, it's a great addition, but I cannot see myself relying on meth to prevent my LT1 from burning up. If you are going to boost an LT1, I really think you gotta go with adding port injection with some safety cuts programmed for the long term reliability. Easier said than done, of course. In reality, I just wouldn't boost an LT1 with stock internals at all. Upgrade the internals with GPI drop in kit, with proper machining, upgrade the fuel system to the LT4 system, and add a procgarger, keep it mild enough to avoid meth unless it's no longer a daily driver...
I’m new to this and I think I pushed the front seal you I messed up the engine?
There’s a possibility. Usually doesn’t push a seal out unless something happens
Can you do a video on total cost breakdown
Yes I can
How much WHP can it handle on stock internals reliability? I was hearing around 450-500
700whp with a good tuner. I made 610whp and the motor was perfect when I tore it apart to build it
@@toakss148 When you drove 610 WHP, on which Octane gas was that? Was than on pure 93 pump? Octane rating is a key factor when talking about engine power figures.
So.....mustang. got it.
610 on stock pistons and rods? 7k miles must have been driving speed limit the whole time.
Nope not at all. When things are done proper with the right tuning, fueling, and cooling. You can beat on it all you want
Meth same stuff the junkies use?
Essentially
That looks like a lot of work. I think I would just buy a ZL1.
Cheaper than a ZL1 and faster by a lot
@@toakss148 just like the scatpack get forged internals and u can handle boost
Where in Michigan?
Shelby township
@@toakss148 My son just got his LT1. He's in Madison Heights, but I hope he doesn't void his warranty.
Nothing wrong with a couple mods. You would be surprised that quite a few dealers in the metro detroit area will still honor warranty with some simple stuff.
Or for 20k more go ZL1 Camaro.
20k more then what I spent to only make 650 crank lmao
The answer is: yes, if you wanna blow up your engine
90% have no problems the 10% that do had improper fueling, cooling, and a bad tuner majority of the time
Sounds painful to make any power boosted. Might as well just get a Coyote.