Tory MP defects to Labour, woke civil servants and arms sales to Israel | PoliticsJOE reacts to PMQs
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- Today we're reacting to Keir Starmer's decision to allow Tory right-winger Natalie Elphicke a seat on the opposition benches.
Then we get into the meat and spuds of today's PMQs, where Rishi Sunak quite possibly delivered the worst attempt at a joke by a Prime Minister, ever.
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I respect Ava for saying i dont feel qualified to answer that.
This is becoming one of my favourite UK politics podcasts primarily because it has taken enshittification as a roadmap and gone off-road with it. What else should one do when the political landscape is best traversed in a clown car?
Keep up the good work folks.
+1 for riding the enshittification train. It's all we've got left at this point. Might as well enjoy it.
@@benjones3466it’s the clown card quip that got me personally lmao
At least they turn up to the circus honest enough to wear the face paint.
same (spoken as an American listening to this to try to make myself feel better about our Radioactive Tank Firing Bazookas Indiscrimately in Every Direction approach to politics)
NET ZERO TORIES BY 2030!
At the current rate of one a week, to get through the remaining 344 it would take 6.6 years. Bringing us to December 2030.
Not sure if you did the maths first but it adds up 😂😂
@@tobypettit6417net zero tories by 2030 would surely mean the current amount? net refers to the change so if there’s 0 change then…
@@tobypettit6417what we want is just zero lmao
I liked the bit where Rishi didn't answer any questions.
Sorry, which PMQ's you referring to? There's about 50 to choose from...
@@aidanbyrne8267I wonder if anyone has been keeping track of how many questions he’s actually answered. I appreciate there’s a slightly subjective/partial extent on which he answered but iv seen almost every PMQ’s since he’s started and it feels like the number is like 10
To answer Oli's fingerprint question - a healthy layer of dermis needs to be removed, but you cannot permanently remove fingerprints. Not least, the trick only works for pre- and post-accident. If you burn them, thereafter, your fingerprint profile just looks odd. In fact, it probably makes you statistically more identifiable as the idea that your fingerprint is unique is a myth - your fingerprint is unique *enough* to be a decent forensic tool, but suffers in the face of other DNA forensic tools. Look up the case of Brandon Mayfield for more on this.
Also, to further expand - we don't just have fingerprints - we have the same pads on our feet, as do most primates. They're useful, because the increased surface area caused by folds of skin equal more friction - so great for gripping things, like branches - as well as the fact that our palms are *excellent* heat sensors. Fingerprints also form as a combo of genetics and environmental factors in the womb, we think.
Anyway, that's all I've got on fingerprints.
Thank you, commented to answer on the function of our fingers having that pattern of skin growth but wasn't sure on the less biological/medical and more forensic aspect of how long lol def agree it makes you more identifiable but only if they're looking i suppose
Play guitar for six months. No fingerprints on left hand .
St.Peters in Rome has the sizes of other Cathedrals marked on the floor showing it is bigger than all the rest.
It's what Jesus would want
Rishi sunak literally values life differently depending on the ideology and political systems of different peoples. He assumes Palestinian lives are worthless.
Based!
32:43 *AVA SANTINA:* “Probably because that's where you find your fingers-it's on the hand.”
I just want to acknowledge how consistently hilarious Ava is in every podcast.
Oli asks if there are “any bits of housekeeping” no fewer than three times in four minutes and, as the podcast slowly dribbles to a close, he finally gets around to asking, “Want to finish the record?” 1:07:19 and Ava says, with a quiet sort of resignation, “We could have finished it a while ago but there we are.” Quite true.
Ed got a bit of his own back:
Ava, “I’m actually a physical chair.”
Ed, “What are you doing?”
Oli, “Who’ll be sitting on you?”
Ava, “Well…”
Ed, “One lucky winner!”
Sadly, it's hard to disagree with Olie on the chance Farage could be PM if Starmer doesn't deliver.
The warning signs are there. The country's at a fork in the road. As is the planet.
I think Labour will have such a massive majority they could easily survive in to a second term
@@nathanielratcliff7456 the problem is that if they don't change people's lives then who else is left to turn to but the fascists since the left has been effectively wiped out as an electoral force
@@nathanielratcliff7456 The concern is they'll be a fickle majority. A lot of the swing votes will be anti-tory, as opposed to pro-labour; expecting those voters to maintain that sentiment after five years of labour (probably delivering more of the same, it would seem) and vote them in again is a big ask. Shame it's probably what's needed to give labour some actual room to maneuver.
In the studio where the mics are hot,
Three jesters sit, stirring the political pot.
Oli, Ava, and Ed, a trio so keen,
Dissecting the news with a satirical sheen.
Oli Dugmore, with a quip so slick,
Cuts through the spin, double-quick.
Ava Santina, with insight so bright,
Shines a light on the left and the right.
And Ed Campbell, with a chuckle so deep,
Finds the humour in politics, never cheap.
Together they stand, the holy trinity,
Of podcasting fame, with no hint of timidity.
Likes, dislikes, they've got a few,
From absurd policies to a political coup.
But one thing's for sure, they love the jest,
In a world of chaos, they're simply the best.
If Labour acquire Tory politicians and Tory polices we are just changing the blue rosettes to red and redecorating number 10 again.
Grow up.
@@nicksimmons7234 no you.
@@dkerr200 I guess you're going to be so upset when you lose the current Tory government.
Who the fuck whats this channel and votes Tory. You must be either a bot or so dumb the army wouldn’t let you in.
@@nicksimmons7234 I think it is you who needs to grow up. No one but a child cares who is running the country if the same policies are in place. It takes an especially underdeveloped childlike mind to focus on the colour of the governing party exclusively.
MPs defecting from Tory to Labour just shows me how identical they are. How easily they accept each other. They are supposed to be opposites..
Fully opposites? On every topic? Are you sure?
Speaking of Cathedrals, found out the other day several of them in the UK have their own police forces. knowledge.
Wtf
Rishi Sunak implying he's a straight talker is the funniest thing he's every said
Ed sweetly saying "we've got CZcams money" made me laugh and made my day, for some reason.
Rishi is right, there is no comparison between Hamas and Israel. Israel are demonstrably worse.
The prime miniture was wrong and mislead the House yet again.
What Khan said was that he could condemn both the Hamas in 7th October attacks and the IDF subsequent abuses as wrong.
You can find two horrific things to be bad strangely enough.
ah yes sunni and shia, my favourite 60s muslim pop duo
Ollie's paint jokes went over everyone's head and it's not okay
No paint, no gain.
St. Peter's Basilica in Rome is the world's largest church.
The largest in terms of congregation is in South Korea.
Jeremy Corbyn's Labour cared about an economy that worked for people...
Prepare for chaos. This is what we live for
It's interesting to see the kind of people Labour are courting and the kind of people Labour are expelling or suppressing...
I thankfully never heard the starburst story I am not going to Google it
If you add the pretty radically right Tories, and the definitely radical right Reform ‘Party’, then there is a huge radical right vote in this country
True, although a lot of the Tory vote is basically inertia. An ingrained habit of voting Tory by people who don’t actually pay much attention. & generationally that radical right vote shrinks every year
WHAT IS THE STARBURST LEGEND!????
HPV is strongly linked to increased risk of testicular, throat and mouth cancers for unvaccinated men.
Why will they vaccinate men of any age but not women?
We do vaccinate all girls in school as part of routine immunisations, which is why cervical cancer rates have plummeted as well as robust cervical screening programme
@@tyler6539 notice I said women not girls
@jackoh991 apologies!
To answer your question, HPV is very common so it is likely by mid-twenties it is very likely that a woman has already been exposed to the HPV strains that can cause cervical cancer, and so immunisation would have no further effect
Basically there isn't much benefit to vaccinating in that age-group
Source: I'm an incoming junior doctor and had recent rotation in obstetrics and gynaecology
@@tyler6539 thanks. How come that's different from men please?
This prompted me to look up Oli's old Tab article on the Welsh language. Its a piece that brings the same seriousness, attentiveness, depth of knowledge and astute insights that Oli has brought to Joe's coverage of Welsh politics: that is to say none at all.
The irony of a London based person pointing to the 'self gratifying [admiration] of Celtic history' is almost too much to bare. I submit that the current state of the Welsh language, and the discourse around it, has rather more to do with over a hundred years' of English history: with policies set in Westminster designed to bring about the language's demise.
I don't doubt that, like Oli, those policy makers believed that the interests of Welsh people would be best served by adopting the English language and culture. After all, what cultural value could 'the senior language of the men of Britain' have compared with language of Shakespeare, or Milton? Its a minor example of an anglo-centric world view that has in no way aged badly.
Whether investing resources into the Welsh language is good value, is a point upon which reasonable minds may differ (as it is with any culture funding). Regardless, it seems disingenuous to discuss our response to the fact that Welsh is endangered, without any mention of how that came to be so.
It is a shame that Mr Dugmore did not make use of either his time at Cardiff university, or the occasion of writing on this topic to do any reading or thinking on the subject. Of course, when you can vomit out some unnecessarily acerbic nonsense and call it journalism, I suppose knowing things is redundant.
Ed is using Oli's mic today. When it is used by Ed you cannot see the cable because we see it head on, but Ed is at an angle to us so the cable and plug are visible. I would get out more but..... p94 etc
Finding myself at work during awkward silences wanting to say '....should we roll the clip...'
Philip Davies is my MP in Shipley, West Yorkshire. He is a despicable individual.
Fingerprints are there for gripping 😂😂
They're there for paint to stick to
I don’t know the starburst story 🤷🏽♀️
Steven Flynn - he makes me want to move to Scotland and vote independence every time he askes a question.
I’m looking at Alcatraz right now: people, under closely supervised circumstances, swim en masse from Alcatraz every year (several of my friends and coworkers have done it). It would be a horrible and almost invariably fatal thing to do under prison escape conditions, particularly after months of prison meals.
Just Googled the Starbust story. Cripes.
Labour is a broad church of center and far right politicians
Physiognomy really is spot-on.
The International Rules Based Order:
'When people we don't like do it, it's bad'
'When people we like do it, it's good'
Bless that MP...... calling the BBC left wing or impartial.......😂
It must be clarified If someone decides to walk over to the other Political Party in the commons Then that person should automatically be deselected from the Party How than can she/they have a seat in the Commons if not been selected or representing that original area any longer
Fingerprints are for HD touch. You can feel textures more precisely.
My mates finger exploded by being between a swift drag flick and a hockey stick, his fingerprint now looks like a cartoon of an explosion
In the Commons where the MPs play,
A Tory defector caused quite the fray.
Crossed the floor with a step so bold,
To Labour's side, from blue to red he strolled.
Woke civil servants, oh what a term,
In Whitehall's halls, they stand firm.
Diversity's their game, inclusion their aim,
In the bureaucratic maze, they stake their claim.
And then to Israel, where arms deals flow,
A topic so grave, it steals the show.
But in satire's light, we take a jab,
At politics' dance, and the gift of the gab.
So PoliticsJOE with a chuckle and a wink,
Unpacks the news, faster than you can blink.
With a comedic twist on the PMQs,
They serve up the satire for all to muse.
In a time when 3s are sometimes better than 2s .
I feel like we're getting to the culmination of Oli Dugmore's anarchist arc. Get that man a copy of the bread book, stat.
Nice work by Ava-Santina (or Ava Santiago as Ed called her on the Podcast!) on GMB this morning; good luck in your application to the Garrick!
I used to watch PMQ religiously (no puns about religion), but it's just a show nothing more. I do watch a couple of reviews of PMQ and like yours it breaks down q&a without all the rabble shouting and deranged faces.
Such a refined intro. classy.
Wow nutsack had the nuts to say Isreal was a democratic state, not an apartheid state...
Methinks this is gonna cost a decent amount of progressive votes, if Labour still had any
I'm progressive and also able to understand politics; I will use my head and vote tactically in support of progressive parties because I'm not willing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good and hand the Tory's 5 more years
@@Boghopper9999How do you define "progressive"? The incessant line of people patronisingly describing the current Labour party as "not perfection" are either delusional, don't know what the word progressive means or are deliberately grossly misrepresenting it (funny that, when politicians do the same people are generally up in arms...).
I don't speak on behalf of all progressives obviously, but the current iteration of Labour are mimicking the Conservatives to such a degree that I'm almost indifferent whether Labour or the Conservatives win. I certainly don't think it's worth abandoning my principles to prevent a Conservative victory - people like yourself say this every single election and it's exactly why we only have two main parties.
@@Boghopper9999 there is very little progressive left about the Labour Party - they keep doing everything they can to purge that aspect. Open your eyes. Tories are never going to win anyway, so vote for something actually left of centre.
The bizarre moment is Sunak claiming that private industries are able to export weapons of war without explicit permission from the UK government is giving both false legal advise and dangerous rhetoric as anyone who wishes to provide weapons to any party can now point at the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom as a legitimate argument that they should be allowed as "the UK government doesn't directly provide arms or ship arms .....[to Isreal].... And when it comes to the situation in Rafa. and so on. He hopes we forget about the pictures he take with Zelensky whenever a convenient photo-op arises anytime the UK promises aid to Ukraine, I am not for 1 moment suggesting we should not provide aid to allies but if Ukraine were to use storm shadow missiles to exclusivity target Russian civilians we certainly would not be providing more and more as the conflict proceeded
Had the same sex ed as Olly, we also didn't understand the need for the close up
Note, Derbyshire (as part of East Midlands) just elected a Labour Mayor and threw out the Tory PCC
ive been listening a while but getting more good vibes
He's ditched the nutty left and muslim vote and gone full throttle after the middle England Brexiteer vote. The man is playing a very good game of politics.
Middle England hasn't been Brexit for a while now
The areas where Labour did worse were not the larger Muslim population areas.
They took a slight hit there but it was not major.
Hardly lost a entire religious persuasions vote.
It is quite discriminatory to assume they vote as a unthinking block.
This line from Red Dwarf usually comes to mind whenever I watch pmq’s
Kryten : That was an important speech, sir, and it needed to be made. Might I suggest, however, that the rest of this discourse is continued by those with brains larger than a grape?
Quick clarification: lsræI is not a democratic state in that Palestinian’s with lsræIi citizenship are de facto second class citizens in lsræI.
here for the limmy quote
Hay isn’t NOT IN Wales, Saesneg! It’s in Herefordshire - on the river WYE!
The people at Ordnance Survey seem to be under the impression that its on Welsh side of the boder, in Powys. Is there some political context I'm missing here? (Wye bring that up)
I recall that some years ago, the English Democrat party wanted stood in south east Wales and west of England on the platform of holding a referendum on annexing Monmouthsire to England (effectively moving the Anglo-Welsh border further west) - but I think even that would have left Hay-on-Wye in Wales.
is pissing on tents a thing in the uk?
It's a metaphor
I too remember that video .... tumescent
Poor Ollie’s excellent paint puns whooshing over Ava & Ed’s heads 😓
Can someone please explain to me the urban legend about the starburst and the genital warts? I’m curious but don’t want to google it
Oli was rather emulsional today
Utmost respect for Ava just saying she doesn’t want to comment on foreign affairs when she doesn’t feel she’s qualified to do so 🎉
tune in for 'Overton Window' bingo
I saw that exactly same clip at school of the close up bellend never did the condom banana thing tho
You can erase fingerprints with pineapple juice and I think it lasts a couple weeks, I think they grow back either way. the other option is permanent scarring. Like a brand.
Has Ollie been working out? Looking hench man.
Is she standing down?
According to The News Agents podcast, yes
Yes
Made the mistake of googling the starburst thing
Ed's hair is looking normal, that won't last long
Good pisscasting. (Sadly... we're so back).
Ed's out of frame in the wide.
Lawd Jeezus Christ... The 3 of you... 🙏
I would think if Farage did come in he would have to spend quite a bit of time pissing on the skip fire that is the Tory party !!
hi ed.
Ed and Ollie are so pink and doughy compared to Ava😄
Sorry what!? Farage shareholder in what now?
love podcast hate nons it's the politics Jo podcast ladies and gentlemen
Labour is very welcoming to Tories. Do you get it yet?
Arms and compenents via Cyprus. Sunak is gaslighting.
The woman who gone to labour done a deal.
To me, it sort of looks like Oliver Dowden is mouthing along with Sunak. As if he wrote the question himself, perhaps? 44:06
What, and Labour just accept them? So sick of all these ppl tbh 😂😂😂 all clowns 🤡 😂
Elphicke is a tricky one. I think the Labour party will have considered it carefully with the optics and concluded that the shock benefit of having a quite right leaning MP defecting and slating the Conservatives outweighs the fuss over her history and voting record. No doubt finally swayed because she is standing down at the next election so won't be in the party for very long. It's not 100% ideal but Labour will take the number and stunning most of the political world is the bigger story.
Did Ollie out himself as a Hindu nationalist?
Only nation got cheap energy bills is France Paris. Awesome.
By massively subsidising nuclear electricity.
18:45: once again, dancing on the edge of the Politics Joe Pisscast.
Morden Mosque is the biggest.
Complete self-indulgent bollocks. 22 minutes I'll never get back. And I so wanted to like this. Lesson learned I suppose.
Lol..too young for you or.too left for you?
Just the tip 😂
when a tory defects to Starmer's party, it tells you that there is no effing difference between the two parties,both Tory.
Don't be ridiculous; allowing 1 person to join a team of about 300 does not change the nature of the party; its politics and Labour got a free hit on Sunak today
So does that mean Labour is Reform now?
@@Boghopper9999 Bollocks!
The fact she is a right leaning Tory and Starmer say's she's a good fit for Labour shows just how far Labour has lurched to the right. Starmer(SIR) is the worst thing to happen to Labour since Blair!
they are all on the right both parties, for the twits who know nothing answering you, you only need to look at each mps voting record. There are but a handfull of true left progressives the rest are uniparty bnought and paid for just like in the states. the uk is truley doomed to rinse and repeat. Our only hope is the youth and i dont hold out much hope for them.
Farage is 40-1 to become prime minster after Rishi. Boris is at 35-1.......
Which side of the house is the Tory side?
Love podcasts, hate religion
Wee Mikey Gove needs back on the front bench. Ive been at festivals and not gouched as much as he does in Westminster. You take the right approach to commentating on our politics. You guys laugh at it because it is a joke. Chancers and con artists 'running the country'. Aye into the ground......
New nickname: Sex-Ed
Don't use the word scab
Not sure how you guys think sunak looks rattled. I think he's enjoying himself because for him this is all just a video game. He looks like he just wants to create a better one liner with each retorte. It's just the game for him and he wants to play it better than his opponent. It doesn't matter what he says or does as long as it gets the biggest laugh
Joel Osteen's Lakewood church has a weekly take of over $6M US who cares about square footage or attendance? (In Joel's opinion)