I Just bought a 1911 and didn't know i wasn't gripping it correctly. This video helped me out. Why can't instruction videos now a days be this straight forward?
While all the folks in that video are either dead or on social security, virtually all the lessons are applicable to today's shooting. Good video from an old squid.
That's the way it goes. Some people are more sensitive to recoil than others, some are just naturally better at shooting than others. Some people I know who are new in the gun world ask me which gun would be best for them. I tell them to rent a few and find one they can hit with. I figure a hit from a .22 short revolver is going to be more effective than 32 misses from a .9mm crunchenbanger or 6 misses from a .500 wunderboomer.
@617Ghost handguns are mostly for self-defense in my humble opinion. It doesn't really matter whether you need 7+1 or 15+1 rounds (for .45 or 9mm). What matters is having the first round effective, something that a 1911 will do anytime over a 9mm.
Thats probably why the narrator mentioned it. The army pictorial service realized all 5 of them broke safety protocol, but didn't want to have to re-shoot.
Questions for internet experts: How many times have you used a .45 in an actual gunfight? How many times have you used a 9mm in an actual gunfight? How many times have you been hit with a .45 in an actual gunfight? How many times have you been hit with a 9mm in an actual gunfight? Thanks for playing.
If you ever conceal carry, some officers are now suggesting a handgun for your handgun. Not necessarily for if one handgun breaks down but depending on where they are carried one might be accessible when the other isnt such as sitting down strapped in a car, or while one arm is doing something else like directing your family to safety.
Great historical video, and instructional for what not to do with a handgun. The trigger discipline was bad, and I could not believe the way they were taught to use a 2-handed grip. That "saucer cup" grip is so bad for accuracy, stance, and control.
Ok, fellas, take your pistols out, put your fingers in the triggers, and point them at your instructor. Don't worry, they're unloaded. No wonder there was a ton of "friendly fire" deaths during the war.
If the "standard load" is"ball"ammo, then correct. Then it becomes a heavyweight's fist with knives attatched. Ball slugs just flatten somewhat expanding the impact suface slightly. JHP expands to almost twice it's original surface area. When "HydraShok" rounds first came out when I shot milkjugs with them I was surprised at how much more damage was one. You're right. Modern ammo = great results.
I'm not into Old West guns but a poster sent me comment that Wild Bill Hickok used a brace of .36 cal '51Colt Navies percussion pistols and later upgraded to .38 Colt open top cartridge pistols before he was killed in Deadwood. I'm quoting him & he sounded like he knew his stuff. Should be easy to check.
This video let me know why I shoot better with my Makarov than I do with my Glock 30. The Glock grip is too fat for my hand. By trying to get my finger all the way into the trigger I was not holding the Glock lined up with my forearm. The Makarov fits my hand perfectly, so I naturally grip it properly. Now I need to take my Glock to the range and try a slightly different grip.
Must always point firearm in safe direction and consider every firearm as loaded. The film shows several times the soldiers pointing pistols at each other.
When in actual combat lots of people point guns at people on their own side it happens. I have an uncle who was sure he was shot buy one of the men in his unit when he moved to the side as the man fired on the enemy. The army was teaching GROUPS its not one on one. Its hard for people to see you if you are standing behind them. It was a practical thing and the instructors control the ammo issue.
At 3:25, "Safety precautions apply here too. The first thing you do is inspect and clear your piece." And then all five of them awkwardly pull their .45's out and point the muzzle at the instructor.
Just shows how ahead of the game John Browning was. Handling, training, and tactics have all evolved massively since then. But the gun it’s self? Basically the same.
The person who'd never fire a gun also did not pick up and engrain bad habits.My firearms instructor used to comment on how much easier it is to train female cadets since he didn't have to "unteach" them.Trigger control and discipline are basics, go to any public shooting range, or for that matter most You Tube gun videos, and note its general absence.
It sure is a Dan Wesson. 8" barrel. Have .22 and .357 in DW also. I can't afford anymore pistils no matter who is in ofice. But all I need is my stainless steel Colt Mark IV in .45.
@Oughriend hmm, i just watched that. 1911 pistolas have been in constant use for 100 years and i have never heard of any problems. before the beaver tail grip the hammer would bite people with relatively big hands but thats about it. slide stop retention pin never comes up... oh and i never use my 'FU' finger to shoot... it's called a trigger finger for a reason.
At no point did i mention anything about wounding. You can get a lethal wound, But not die immediately from it. During the 1986 Miami FBI shootout, one of the first rounds the FBI fired hit one of the shooters and was a non survivable wound, if he was shot in that spot on an operating table He would have Died nothing you could do to save him, yet he continued fighting quite effectively. A lethal wound does not always stop hostilitys.
I'm not sure which comment you are refering to, I think one comment I made is misleading if you haven't read the previous one. I prefer The 1911 and the .45acp, And have one as a go to pistol. I stated that if I had no choice and had to "Get Shot" I would rather be hit by a 9mm rather than a .45acp! But I also think caliber is less important than good shot placement.I watched a video preentation by a surgeon the other day, very revealing about handgun wounds!
I actually disagree with him. the reason people think 9mm is underpowered because US military generally uses only ball (FMJ) bullet due to Hague Convention from 1899. Ball ammunition combined with high velocity of 9mm often failed to expend in target, left a small exit wound (compared to JHP). With correct ammunition and good shot placement, 9mm is certainly extremely deadly cartridge.
after internalizing this lecture you can proceed to part two of this video where gunnery sgt. bale will introduce you to the basic gun-kata techniques.
Did not know about "Heavy Weight Ammo".Will look it up later. Will see what it does in my 1911 .45ACP. Did you know that 9mm "ball" and .45 "ball" will not go through an 1/8" aluminum frying pan at 25 yards?
Usamachinist, I agree as smaller, higher velocity bullets do more damage than heavy, low velocity bullets, at least at long range. However, you said that a 9mm was bigger than a 45 ACP. Definitely not true. I still would want a heavy calibre sidearm however, and for that the 1911takes the cake.
It is just how combat shooting developed, it was until late 60s Lt Col. Jeff Cooper and a few other instructors designed modern techniques. FBI only dropped point shooting style (shown in this video) in 1981.
I agree. I have had minimal military handgun training, and SAFETY was beat into our heads at all times, NO stuff-up were tolerated, as explained to us, "Ïf you stuff-up, I will fuck you up, you will wish to be in pain, just to feel good"!. (bloody love those Range Safety Corporals and Sgts!). The nimrods shown here do not fill me with confidence, and ''Captain Confidence', the instructor, does even less so in that regard. If I was the cameraman, I'd be slightly worried!.
The chances of that happening is very slim, and thats assuming the enemy is dead already. Handguns were not well used in WW2, mainly only by officers. Handguns are niche weapons and their sole purpose is backup for the rifle.
Well...you know what I meant. I exagerated. Should have said a .308 or .30-06, etc. .50 cal is a bit much. That's like saying you can survive an artilary strike to the hip or thigh. A "spent" .50 cal round MIGHT be surviveable from 3/4 of a mile or more away. But a poorly placed .223 is more survivealbe than a well placed .357, 9mm or .45, etc. But, as you say...a .50 cal hitting you near the lower abdomen might just tear out your lungs and heart and liver, etc. Shock of impact breaks spine.
He jerk trigger so hard in the opening scene, and that is a single action weapon. Can't imagine how bad his shots would be if that was striker pistol...
Bah...sorry about that my mistake was thinking of Carlos Hathcock. Hathcock would not have been used a .36 but Wild Bill Hickok certainly could have used a .36. Peace.
My comment before was what a handguns purpose is, not that you would pick that up. No one says that your gun will break AFTER a fight, more than likely murphy's law rears its ugly head and it breaks during the gunfight. If you are shooting prone and your rifle breaks you will be shooting prone with your handgun. We cant choose to set the situation so we can pick up a weapon from the dead, assuming their weapon isnt also broken.
I'm not a 9 mm advocate but I di believe a person will be most effective with a round they can handle some perfectly capable people are terrible with the venirable 1911 others use it like their pointing their finger I've seen comparisons in ballistics gel of every round from 9mm to 45 cal its actualy amazing how similar they perform
If we had no choice I would pick a FMJ 9mm over a .45 FMJ, definately a 9mm hollow point over a .45 hollow point, Does that sound reasonable? Bigger bullets do more damage in the real world, at least when we are talking about fps being similar, I won't deny your original statement about a person being able to place shots effectively, A well trained person with a .32 pistol could defeat an untrained person with a 1911 pistol!
When Jeff Cooper and Jack Weaver used these techniques in the late 50's at the original Big Bear practical shooting matches they FAILED MISERABLY.... And thus was born the Weaver Stance and the Modern Technique....Had these guys not had the benefit of tracer ammo in order to make instant corrections on their follow up shots they would have missed 80 percent of their targets....Most of their 1st shots are misses and without the feedback supplied by the use of tracers they would have missed again.
The scary thing is I've counted so many safety violations it's insane. They're always putting their fingers on the triggers and their muzzle discipline sucks. I lost count of the number of times the instructor or students pointed the pistols at each other.
@John234pwns I'm referring to that yahoo talking about the 1911 "fatal flaw" where he talks about how the only correct way to shoot is like you would shoot a derringer, using your middle finger on the trigger and pointing with your index finger. I don't want to encourage more traffic to the guy's site, as he's obviously a troll. But he disabled any comments on the video, and since I found this vid while looking at that one, i'm sorta commenting by proxy here :/ If you must see look up 5shot
I wouldn't want to get hit with a bb gun either. They can kill ou. But I'd rather face 2 thugs with 9mms then Jerry Miculek with one 6 shot .357 magnum revolver. He can shoot 6 shots as fast as a semi-auto pistol and could get 3 guys with 2 shots each between the eyes. Shot placement is so important. You can survive a poorly placed 50 cal round. You'l be a cripple but will survive.
Hey it worked for back then & we killed a truck load of terrible & hateful people who are no longer around to do bad & hateful things. Which is why I love this country so much
We must have lost an awful lot of instructors, @ 3:36-3:41 It appears that the instructor has been given the firing squad. Considering he has taught them to keep their fingers on the trigger at all times and not outside the trigger guard, responsible for the mens premature hearing loss and allowing them to shoot TRASER ammo without eye protection, the firing squad seems like the way to go. Watch the burn rate on those trasers as they light up the berm and ricochet,They look like S-T-A missiles
A couple of things. Handgun use doctrine evolves constantly often based on competition shooters need for speed and accuracy. I passed through Army infantry school in 1970. Quite a bit of time on the 1911, more than for the 50 BMG IIRC. Never did anyone in any of my training tell me to keep my finger off the trigger. Never. So far as the old fashioned design. Most pistols in the world are based on Browning designs. 45 vs 9mm? This has been repeatedly proven in real life. With the same class of ammo the 45 is better across the board. The failures of the 9mm was the driving force behind the 40 S&W at the instigation of the FBI who lost agents to 9mm HP use. The USMC just adopted a 1911 variant in 45 acp. With hard ball the 9mm is as much a badge of office as an effective sidearm unless shooting Jews in the head beside some mass grave. I would cite Alvin York in WW-I. Taking out 6 charging Germans with his 1911 (his account). Given the distance I don't think he changed magazines either. Without it he surely would have been killed given he was down to 2-3 rounds in his 1903 and the Germans charged for that reason. All the 1911s contemporaries are out of use, collectors items. In contrast almost every handgun maker in the free world makes a 1911 variant and a great many people carry them for duty or personal security. In spite of all the "new and improved" handguns built on its reputation and basic design. Designed in 1911 it immediately made every other combat handgun obsolete and in virtually unaltered form its still a top of the line combat handgun.
Yeah. We're cool. I just get tired of someone saying, "You have a 1911 in .45? Well, you're dumb or gay if you don't have a Glock high cap 9mm!" I wouldn't have a pink one either but if it was all I could get in a pinch, it will ward off attackers just fine for the moment. Now I miss my Ruger Single Six convertible again. Got rid of it 20 years ago back when I must have been gay!! hahaha. Thanks
Give me a LEGITIMATE source of that claim? "More people die from 22s" Also, theres a difference between lethality and incapacitation. In defense you want to incapacitate not just kill.
You are into my theory of energy impact from a slug. A 9 mm in the chest is less effective than the .45 or .357. Think of the heavyweight boxing champ hitting you with a fist as compared to a middleweight boxer. The impact of his fist will debilitate you more than the fist of a middleweight fighter. Get hit a grazing shot with a 9mm or .45 and it could hurt. Get hit with a 30-06 and you might die. Get hit with a .50 cal and the rib flys 50' and takes all the other ribs and organs with it.
Gun safety ahoy. Guns pointed at cameramen, each other, fingers on the trigger without intent to fire, times were more lax them days. Times have changed, considering the techniques taught in modern pistol classes as exemplified by the magpul dynamics videos.
Those were the premier handgun skills of the day. No modern shooter would ever fight that way, but it's neat to see what was taught as a comparison.
Gotta love the finger on the trigger as they set up their grip.
Pistol shooting techniques and methods have improved A LOT in just 60 years.
I Just bought a 1911 and didn't know i wasn't gripping it correctly. This video helped me out. Why can't instruction videos now a
days be this straight forward?
3:38 great gun discipline there...
While all the folks in that video are either dead or on social security, virtually all the lessons are applicable to today's shooting.
Good video from an old squid.
I seriously want some of those tracer rounds.
Lol same it looks so badass
I love their accent.
That's the way it goes. Some people are more sensitive to recoil than others, some are just naturally better at shooting than others. Some people I know who are new in the gun world ask me which gun would be best for them. I tell them to rent a few and find one they can hit with. I figure a hit from a .22 short revolver is going to be more effective than 32 misses from a .9mm crunchenbanger or 6 misses from a .500 wunderboomer.
@617Ghost
handguns are mostly for self-defense in my humble opinion. It doesn't really matter whether you need 7+1 or 15+1 rounds (for .45 or 9mm). What matters is having the first round effective, something that a 1911 will do anytime over a 9mm.
I like the tracers.makes it easy to see where you are hitting.
That was some scary gun safety. I wonder how many range accidents there were.
Are there any equivalent British, French or German movies available ?
It was kinda cool seeing the tracers bounce off the backstop during the combat shooting exercise.
Thats probably why the narrator mentioned it. The army pictorial service realized all 5 of them broke safety protocol, but didn't want to have to re-shoot.
I fucking love these old films
Nice, pointing the gun at the instructor.
Basically the same techniques I went through in the police academy in 2001.
lies
Questions for internet experts: How many times have you used a .45 in an actual gunfight? How many times have you used a 9mm in an actual gunfight? How many times have you been hit with a .45 in an actual gunfight? How many times have you been hit with a 9mm in an actual gunfight?
Thanks for playing.
If you ever conceal carry, some officers are now suggesting a handgun for your handgun. Not necessarily for if one handgun breaks down but depending on where they are carried one might be accessible when the other isnt such as sitting down strapped in a car, or while one arm is doing something else like directing your family to safety.
Great historical video, and instructional for what not to do with a handgun. The trigger discipline was bad, and I could not believe the way they were taught to use a 2-handed grip. That "saucer cup" grip is so bad for accuracy, stance, and control.
Ok, fellas, take your pistols out, put your fingers in the triggers, and point them at your instructor. Don't worry, they're unloaded. No wonder there was a ton of "friendly fire" deaths during the war.
That same poster said a .32cal 4 shot Sharps pistol was found on Wild Bills body when it was exhumed 20 years after he died.
If the "standard load" is"ball"ammo, then correct. Then it becomes a heavyweight's fist with knives attatched. Ball slugs just flatten somewhat expanding the impact suface slightly. JHP expands to almost twice it's original surface area. When "HydraShok" rounds first came out when I shot milkjugs with them I was surprised at how much more damage was one. You're right. Modern ammo = great results.
I'm not into Old West guns but a poster sent me comment that Wild Bill Hickok used a brace of .36 cal '51Colt Navies percussion pistols and later upgraded to .38 Colt open top cartridge pistols before he was killed in Deadwood. I'm quoting him & he sounded like he knew his stuff. Should be easy to check.
This video let me know why I shoot better with my Makarov than I do with my Glock 30. The Glock grip is too fat for my hand. By trying to get my finger all the way into the trigger I was not holding the Glock lined up with my forearm. The Makarov fits my hand perfectly, so I naturally grip it properly. Now I need to take my Glock to the range and try a slightly different grip.
Good point about the tracer rounds, Didn't think of that!
i really like those old garrison caps
Must always point firearm in safe direction and consider every firearm as loaded. The film shows several times the soldiers pointing pistols at each other.
Modern Firearm Safety rules weren't widespread until Jeff Cooper in 1960s.
When in actual combat lots of people point guns at people on their own side it happens. I have an uncle who was sure he was shot buy one of the men in his unit when he moved to the side as the man fired on the enemy. The army was teaching GROUPS its not one on one. Its hard for people to see you if you are standing behind them. It was a practical thing and the instructors control the ammo issue.
+Dan Phariss yeah true like come on
Yess !!! Those are the very instructions I was taught, and: keep your finger away from the trigger until you're ready to fire...
Funny how things change so much over the years, even stances and procedures.
At 3:25, "Safety precautions apply here too. The first thing you do is inspect and clear your piece." And then all five of them awkwardly pull their .45's out and point the muzzle at the instructor.
This is better hangun training than I recieved in the US Army in 1983!
Just shows how ahead of the game John Browning was. Handling, training, and tactics have all evolved massively since then. But the gun it’s self? Basically the same.
The person who'd never fire a gun also did not pick up and engrain bad habits.My firearms instructor used to comment on how much easier it is to train female cadets since he didn't have to "unteach" them.Trigger control and discipline are basics, go to any public shooting range, or for that matter most You Tube gun videos, and note its general absence.
Man, combat pistol techniques have certainly changed!
Apparently, they had different notions than we do today about trigger fingers and muzzle direction.
It sure is a Dan Wesson. 8" barrel. Have .22 and .357 in DW also. I can't afford anymore pistils no matter who is in ofice. But all I need is my stainless steel Colt Mark IV in .45.
That guy is a darn good shot; must be Hickok45s dad! :)
@MrElliptific If you're using good defensive ammo, with jacketed hollowpoints, both rounds are very effective.
@Oughriend hmm, i just watched that. 1911 pistolas have been in constant use for 100 years and i have never heard of any problems. before the beaver tail grip the hammer would bite people with relatively big hands but thats about it. slide stop retention pin never comes up... oh and i never use my 'FU' finger to shoot... it's called a trigger finger for a reason.
Our modern stances are altered for many reasons, but especially making use of armor plating that is squared toward the enemy to be most effective.
1911 served the U.S. well and still does.
At no point did i mention anything about wounding.
You can get a lethal wound, But not die immediately from it.
During the 1986 Miami FBI shootout, one of the first rounds the FBI fired hit one of the shooters and was a non survivable wound, if he was shot in that spot on an operating table He would have Died nothing you could do to save him, yet he continued fighting quite effectively.
A lethal wound does not always stop hostilitys.
I'm not sure which comment you are refering to, I think one comment I made is misleading if you haven't read the previous one. I prefer The 1911 and the .45acp, And have one as a go to pistol. I stated that if I had no choice and had to "Get Shot" I would rather be hit by a 9mm rather than a .45acp! But I also think caliber is less important than good shot placement.I watched a video preentation by a surgeon the other day, very revealing about handgun wounds!
This video reminds me of late Col. Jeff Cooper. RIP
I actually disagree with him. the reason people think 9mm is underpowered because US military generally uses only ball (FMJ) bullet due to Hague Convention from 1899. Ball ammunition combined with high velocity of 9mm often failed to expend in target, left a small exit wound (compared to JHP). With correct ammunition and good shot placement, 9mm is certainly extremely deadly cartridge.
after internalizing this lecture you can proceed to part two of this video where gunnery sgt. bale will introduce you to the basic gun-kata techniques.
Specialized ammo is not always available wherever you are. I did took a liking of.45 over 9mm over the years.
I saw the same film In AIT 1966.
Did not know about "Heavy Weight Ammo".Will look it up later. Will see what it does in my 1911 .45ACP. Did you know that 9mm "ball" and .45 "ball" will not go through an 1/8" aluminum frying pan at 25 yards?
Usamachinist, I agree as smaller, higher velocity bullets do more damage than heavy, low velocity bullets, at least at long range. However, you said that a 9mm was bigger than a 45 ACP. Definitely not true. I still would want a heavy calibre sidearm however, and for that the 1911takes the cake.
Great video
lol at the teacup grip. old-school!
Firing one handed. I wonder if they'd think the Isosceles stance was odd.
targets ready....ready on the right...ready....ready on the left...ready.....fire!!!!
great video, excellent training..except for the saucer cup hold of the 1911.
Great gun, very convincing catridge....
It is just how combat shooting developed, it was until late 60s Lt Col. Jeff Cooper and a few other instructors designed modern techniques.
FBI only dropped point shooting style (shown in this video) in 1981.
I agree.
I have had minimal military handgun training, and SAFETY was beat into our heads at all times, NO stuff-up were tolerated, as explained to us, "Ïf you stuff-up, I will fuck you up, you will wish to be in pain, just to feel good"!.
(bloody love those Range Safety Corporals and Sgts!).
The nimrods shown here do not fill me with confidence, and ''Captain Confidence', the instructor, does even less so in that regard.
If I was the cameraman, I'd be slightly worried!.
Not true, most states in US allow tracers or similar devices.
There are also non-flammable tracers commercially available.
THE WAR DEPARTMENT, what it should be called.
The chances of that happening is very slim, and thats assuming the enemy is dead already. Handguns were not well used in WW2, mainly only by officers. Handguns are niche weapons and their sole purpose is backup for the rifle.
Cool old video.
Sadly, other than a basic range qual, watching the video is probably the most training most guys got with the pistol.
Well...you know what I meant. I exagerated. Should have said a .308 or .30-06, etc. .50 cal is a bit much. That's like saying you can survive an artilary strike to the hip or thigh. A "spent" .50 cal round MIGHT be surviveable from 3/4 of a mile or more away. But a poorly placed .223 is more survivealbe than a well placed .357, 9mm or .45, etc. But, as you say...a .50 cal hitting you near the lower abdomen might just tear out your lungs and heart and liver, etc. Shock of impact breaks spine.
I am not aware of a modern day .36 caliber pistol perhaps you mean .38?
Peace.
He jerk trigger so hard in the opening scene, and that is a single action weapon. Can't imagine how bad his shots would be if that was striker pistol...
Bah...sorry about that my mistake was thinking of Carlos Hathcock. Hathcock would not have been used a .36 but Wild Bill Hickok certainly could have used a .36.
Peace.
M1911 or M1911A1? And I love that lite weight handgun statement.
My comment before was what a handguns purpose is, not that you would pick that up.
No one says that your gun will break AFTER a fight, more than likely murphy's law rears its ugly head and it breaks during the gunfight. If you are shooting prone and your rifle breaks you will be shooting prone with your handgun. We cant choose to set the situation so we can pick up a weapon from the dead, assuming their weapon isnt also broken.
I'm not a 9 mm advocate but I di believe a person will be most effective with a round they can handle some perfectly capable people are terrible with the venirable 1911 others use it like their pointing their finger I've seen comparisons in ballistics gel of every round from 9mm to 45 cal its actualy amazing how similar they perform
If we had no choice I would pick a FMJ 9mm over a .45 FMJ, definately a 9mm hollow point over a .45 hollow point, Does that sound reasonable? Bigger bullets do more damage in the real world, at least when we are talking about fps being similar, I won't deny your original statement about a person being able to place shots effectively, A well trained person with a .32 pistol could defeat an untrained person with a 1911 pistol!
the more things change...
dang dropshooters.
thanks for the upload :D
only time they used the double handed "combat grip" was @ 50 yds??
When Jeff Cooper and Jack Weaver used these techniques in the late 50's at the original Big Bear practical shooting matches they FAILED MISERABLY.... And thus was born the Weaver Stance and the Modern Technique....Had these guys not had the benefit of tracer ammo in order to make instant corrections on their follow up shots they would have missed 80 percent of their targets....Most of their 1st shots are misses and without the feedback supplied by the use of tracers they would have missed again.
True, my D.I.s in basic would have had those guys doing lots of pushups as punishment for acting so carelessly.
The scary thing is I've counted so many safety violations it's insane. They're always putting their fingers on the triggers and their muzzle discipline sucks. I lost count of the number of times the instructor or students pointed the pistols at each other.
@John234pwns I'm referring to that yahoo talking about the 1911 "fatal flaw" where he talks about how the only correct way to shoot is like you would shoot a derringer, using your middle finger on the trigger and pointing with your index finger.
I don't want to encourage more traffic to the guy's site, as he's obviously a troll. But he disabled any comments on the video, and since I found this vid while looking at that one, i'm sorta commenting by proxy here :/ If you must see look up 5shot
Are there no revolvers chambered to the .45 ACP round?
of course he is
exactly
The first "fps russia guy in the world"
At 1:50 did you notice the bullet holes in the firing lane numbers a bove the targets? Haha
double tap- standard zombie rule
I wouldn't want to get hit with a bb gun either. They can kill ou. But I'd rather face 2 thugs with 9mms then Jerry Miculek with one 6 shot .357 magnum revolver. He can shoot 6 shots as fast as a semi-auto pistol and could get 3 guys with 2 shots each between the eyes. Shot placement is so important. You can survive a poorly placed 50 cal round. You'l be a cripple but will survive.
Hey it worked for back then & we killed a truck load of terrible & hateful people who are no longer around to do bad & hateful things. Which is why I love this country so much
1911 FTW!
We must have lost an awful lot of instructors, @ 3:36-3:41 It appears that the instructor has been given the firing squad. Considering he has taught them to keep their fingers on the trigger at all times and not outside the trigger guard, responsible for the mens premature hearing loss and allowing them to shoot TRASER ammo without eye protection, the firing squad seems like the way to go. Watch the burn rate on those trasers as they light up the berm and ricochet,They look like S-T-A missiles
Nobody was shooting with their middle finger. I can only assume none of these men made it back alive.
A couple of things. Handgun use doctrine evolves constantly often based on competition shooters need for speed and accuracy. I passed through Army infantry school in 1970. Quite a bit of time on the 1911, more than for the 50 BMG IIRC. Never did anyone in any of my training tell me to keep my finger off the trigger. Never. So far as the old fashioned design. Most pistols in the world are based on Browning designs. 45 vs 9mm? This has been repeatedly proven in real life. With the same class of ammo the 45 is better across the board. The failures of the 9mm was the driving force behind the 40 S&W at the instigation of the FBI who lost agents to 9mm HP use. The USMC just adopted a 1911 variant in 45 acp. With hard ball the 9mm is as much a badge of office as an effective sidearm unless shooting Jews in the head beside some mass grave. I would cite Alvin York in WW-I. Taking out 6 charging Germans with his 1911 (his account). Given the distance I don't think he changed magazines either. Without it he surely would have been killed given he was down to 2-3 rounds in his 1903 and the Germans charged for that reason. All the 1911s contemporaries are out of use, collectors items. In contrast almost every handgun maker in the free world makes a 1911 variant and a great many people carry them for duty or personal security. In spite of all the "new and improved" handguns built on its reputation and basic design. Designed in 1911 it immediately made every other combat handgun obsolete and in virtually unaltered form its still a top of the line combat handgun.
i know you can still buy 22 and 9mm tracer rounds in the state i live
Yeah. We're cool. I just get tired of someone saying, "You have a 1911 in .45? Well, you're dumb or gay if you don't have a Glock high cap 9mm!" I wouldn't have a pink one either but if it was all I could get in a pinch, it will ward off attackers just fine for the moment. Now I miss my Ruger Single Six convertible again. Got rid of it 20 years ago back when I must have been gay!! hahaha. Thanks
Give me a LEGITIMATE source of that claim? "More people die from 22s"
Also, theres a difference between lethality and incapacitation. In defense you want to incapacitate not just kill.
You are into my theory of energy impact from a slug. A 9 mm in the chest is less effective than the .45 or .357. Think of the heavyweight boxing champ hitting you with a fist as compared to a middleweight boxer. The impact of his fist will debilitate you more than the fist of a middleweight fighter. Get hit a grazing shot with a 9mm or .45 and it could hurt. Get hit with a 30-06 and you might die. Get hit with a .50 cal and the rib flys 50' and takes all the other ribs and organs with it.
é verdade !
if we can choose then id take a nerf dart!
When your primary is down.
can u get the tracer rounds anymore?
Gun safety ahoy. Guns pointed at cameramen, each other, fingers on the trigger without intent to fire, times were more lax them days. Times have changed, considering the techniques taught in modern pistol classes as exemplified by the magpul dynamics videos.