Restoration of a 1974 C3 Corvette - Borgeson Steer Upgrade
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2021
- We replace the 1974 steering box with a brand new Borgeson Steering box with excellent results. Our Vette is running Doug's Sidepipe Headers and the Bogeson Unit fit right in without any adjustments
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Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
I'm about to order a Borgeson unit myself, so this is super helpful!
Thanks - before I ordered mine I looked for some install videos and there were not that many to be found. I love my new upgrade.
I'm doing some major upgrades to my Vette and I was on the fence about this one.
This video made me pull the trigger for my 81 Borgeson upgrade. . Thank you for ALL of the valuable information you have packed into this video.
Glad I could help - after about a month of use I would completely recommend the additional support bracket that is sold separately. I can see the unit flex and full right and full left. The support bracket is needed for the install. After seeing the flex I am surprised that the bracket does not just come with the kit automatically.
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Again, thanks for that tip as well. Bracket is now ordered. 👍
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Do you know the part # or exact name for the flex unit? Also, how did you align the shaft when connection to the steering gear? I am told that if you do not meet the exact teeth (exact center) the steering will have play.
Thank you ! I need to do this to my 72
You can do it! consider purchasing the stabilizer bracket
Looking forward to a tour of the new pole barn.
yes, we are enjoying the new space.
Great video Dog
Thanks - install was pretty easy - I would rate it a 2.5 out of 5 wrenches.
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Love Virginia, been to Fredericksburg many times driving down to Florida from Nova Scotia. Great looking garage.
I'm dealing with my 81, I'm leery of beating on the column and I read somewhere someone had to 'cut' the excess off!
However a bigger problem... these kits are "out of stock"!
Today I directly called Borgeson and I appreciate their reps honesty.
The rep told me "Ray, it could take over 20 weeks until we get a bulk of Jeep cores in before we can make several kits up." They do a bulk of them at once, not just one, and there are no Jeep Cores out there.
I first called Summit, they 'kinda' lied to me stating "Borgeson makes those kits to order and that's why it could take a few-weeks" ... that was a lie.
I have heard of supply chain issues - I had no trouble beating on the column - it was more like a few taps - the column collapsed easily.
Thank you for the video. Installing this box on my 75. The instructions indicate to file a flat spot on the steering shaft where the rag joint lock nut contacts. Did you do this? My concern is that if I grind a flat spot, it will be impossible to get the rag join onto the splines of the steering shaft.
I did not have to grind the flat spot - it fit without modification
Here in Australia we drive on the correct side of the road.My 74 is converted and uses a Toyota steering box from a 79 corona.
great idea - nearly anything is better than stock - man are they bad
I've been thinking about getting this for my 71 Vette... I have the same drift and play issue you're having. Kind of scary when I'm hauling ass.
It was a great upgrade but I will suggest that you also purchase the frame brace - I did not and I wish I did. It is easy to install when you have everything out of the car anyways. Good luck.
Great video, I have a 69 corvette with the 427/435 (Big Block) and was wondering if you think it would fit with dougs side exhaust long tube headers.
So I would call the techs at Dougs Headers - I found them to very helpful during my installation. I have not messed with a Big Block in the Corvette, but I can tell you that the fitment on the Small Block was perfect.
You will almost certainly be looking at denting the header for clearance.
Did this change the amount of turns lock to lock. My stock one is almost 5 turns !
It reduced the turns each way by 1/2 a turn
Thanks so much, again, for a helpful and informative video. I've been wanting to do this on my 73 convertible, but was dreading the job. Seeing the results, and your 2 1/2 out of 5 wrench rating actually has me optimistic. Couple of questions for you please. Was the kit all inclusive or did you need other parts? Who did you order the kit from, and what's the part number? How many hours were involved in the way? Finally, could you please give us a 6 month review on handling and overall quality / leaks / etc.? Also... LOVE THE NEW SHOP, CONGRATS! can't wait to see more of it
you can totally do this job - I ordered my kit from Zip Corvette - Part Number SC-849. The kit comes with everything you need. When ordering make sure to tell the them if you car is factory power steering or factory manual steering - it makes a difference with the Drag Link or relay arm adapter. you will need that mega wrench and the pitman arm puller tool. I have put about 100 miles on the Vette so far and I love the upgrade.
LawDog Corvette thank you for the part number, and again for this video. This is my next upgrade.
Consider also purchasing the external support bracket for the unit - it attaches to the frame and makes the entire system more solid. Not sure if it is a must have and I didn't do it. But after installing I kinda wish I did. With the unit out of the vehicle the bracket would not have been any more work to install. Now if I wanted to install it - everything would have to come out. I probably should have spent the extra $100.00
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Thank you for the extra info. Makes sense, mine is a big block car, so carrying the extra weight, that support bracket could definitely help.
@@merlinwag according to Bogeson the extra support bracket is needed if you plan on "spirited" driving. (That is a direct quote) Now I'm wishing I had done it. Because now I can totally see me doing some spirited driving because I actually can control the Vette.
Perhaps a noob dumb question, but when you bleed the system, do you have the have the pump reservoir capped?
not a dumb question at all - the answer is no. The reservoir is not pressurized. Now you might get a splash of a air bubble as it comes out of the lines but no, the cap does not need to be on to bleed the system.
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Thanks! Another one: could you get the caster aligned to the recommended 3 degree value?
I have not taken her to my local shop yet - but I suspect that they will not have a problem.
By now you've moved on with your vett projects, but My Question is: Does the heat from the header tubes cook the steering box? Would a heat shield, kind of like those used on a starter due to header heat be of any value? Glad to see
all your work from the install pays off! Good Job!
So I have not notice any heat issues with the headers and side pipes. I'm running two electric fans and push a lot of air into the engine compartment. I'll keep an eye on that but as for now - no issues. I need to post another video soon.
If I bring my Vette to you would you install it? And if so how much?
Wow, I'm flattered - but I'm not a professional mechanic - I'm just an idiot with a bunch of wrenches. You can do this - good luck.
@@lawdogcorvette8565 Ha. I'm not far away from you. About 2 and a half hours. I have a pinched nerve in my neck and back so doing stuff like this is getting to be too much for me. I have about an inch of play in my steering wheel before the car actually responds. I'm used to it and doesn't really bother me but probably needs a steering box. Someone told me to take the cover off and put grease in it. So I may try that. Not sure how that would eliminate play in the wheel.
Me too lose any screwed to made Collin go in
no - just a few taps
That hose is still dangerously close to header- no?
agreed - something to check on regularly - so far no problems. Been running it for over a year.
@@lawdogcorvette8565 oh, great! Thank you! I had a coolant hose that was a little further than that and it caught fire.
How much did this coast?
Don’t worry, you’re not going to buy it.
about 750
You started of good on the intro and I was very excited however, I am disappointed as you skipped out the most important parts of the installation.
Sorry about that - my cameraman (son) was not available during filming. If you have any questions about the install please ask - I'll tell you exactly how it went in.