Boox Note Air 3 C Review
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I haven't used many E ink tablets (the Kindle Scribe and Remarkable 2) but of the 3 I have tried the Boox Note Air 3 C is my favorite. It's the android app store and really robust note taking app that push it over the edge.
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This kind of e-ink tablet is actually a perfect holiday device for me. I can read books while lying at the sunny beach, but unlike with only-reading devices like a classic Kindle, I can also play games like Sudoku, Bimaru etc., I can sketch and take notes, I can listen to music (MP3s or streaming) and audio books...
but anything outside the main notes app will lag like hell, it has nothing to do with the tab itself but the link tech its based on.
@@mr_khatkar990 Hm... not sure what you mean. I you are talking about note taking - yes, other android note taking apps (than the one from Onyx) often lag a lot. Other than that, it performs well enough. When you switch to the fastest refresh mode, the UI in general is quite responsive. There are enough videos showing how responsive today's boox devices are.
It's a versatile device but unfortunately with a rather short life span. I had 2 BOOX readers, Poke 2 and Nova 3, and they both broke within 2 years. In both cases repair cost + both way shipping amounted to roughly 70% of the actual value and shortly after batteries died (I mean if a battery dies in those models it won't last even 1 day). They're not built to last. I never had quality issues with Kindle readers and I have 3 Kindle readers, 4th generation 2011 still works fine. With free Calibre converter one can easily convert any format like EPUB, PDF, WORD to MOBI.
I'm so glad you're covering this! These kinds of devices deserve way more love and attention, plus the more love and attention, the more it'll motivate other brands to jump on board this baby tech niche and provide competition, meaning prices will come down. I really want the Boox Palma to be brought out in colour since I mostly just use my phone for text based social media and LCD/OLED trigger and worsen migraines. Plus, if the Palma was a phone (it isn't yet) the benefits of the e ink screen being super visible in sunlight will blow everyone away, I feel. I am so excited about the future of e ink right now, in case you couldn't tell!
you can buy Hisense A7CC or Hisense A5Pro CC
I am really waiting any phone manufacturer launches a cell phone as the Boox Palma e reader, I am eager to purchase an e inke cell phone as my second phone (I am pretty sure that at the end of the day I will be using it more than the OLED one)
Ty for a great, thorough, unbiased review as ever
As someone who's eyes tend to hurt after using screen tablets and phones, this would have been perfect. Sketching on the go, inking, manga reading, even using it as a laptop in a pinch, like when travelling. It all sounds amazing. 500$ though? Oof, that's seems a bit too much to me.
But I'm sure excited what more this technology can bring in the future.
Exactly. Honestly, I use my iPad with a magnetic matte screen protector and add a few filters (specifically the black and white one) from accessibility settings when I need to rest my eyes.
@@chips6042 I had to sell my iPad because the eye strain was giving me migraines 😭 But that's just me, my eyes don't like screens up close.
@chrz_czon sadly it's not that
yeah. 500 bucks seems mad. i really like the idea, though.
Would very much recommend an ebook for manga reading
I've been hoping you might cover some of these new color eink tablets so thank you, Brad! I plan to get an eink tablet as soon as apps like clip studio can run on them without disruptive amounts of lag. Besides being sensitive to bright light, I also have frequent bouts of insomnia so being able to work on my digital projects on a gentle eink screen until I, hopefully, fall back asleep would be ideal. Sure would beat staring at the inside of my eyelids all night or working on a bright screen that'll only wake me up more.
I am a big fan of this tech and plan to get this for many reasons, especially since I work in tech and take notes for my work.
Exactly same here
You're my go to digital art device reviewer, and I'm really trying to find an e-ink tablet to love. Note 3C might be it. But with the SuperNote A6 X2 coming out soon, I would LOVE a review from you
3:58 im glad he didn't abandon Brad's art school lol
Hey Brad! I’m sure you’ve figured it out by now, but you can change the eraser behavior by tapping on the eraser a second time in the toolbar.
You stepped up your background set up Brad, looks great!
Yes! Thank you!
Your studio looks amazing! When is studio tour?
Thank you for covering an e-ink option!
Thanks for having such a balanced review of the Note Air 3C (what a mouthful). So many reviews of e-ink tablets try to compare it with a normal iPad or Android tablet and try to play CZcams on it or something.
This is just a different beast and for those who want a e-ink device, you really showed off the pros and cons and a fair evaluation for what you get for your money.
Thanks, I really appreciate that. That was something I was trying to really get across in the script that it's not for everyone but if you understand the benefits then you can see it's a good device.
But how is CZcams on it tho?
@@jimbovandalen9676 It still isn't really watchable, unless it's a very short video or you just want to listen to a video in the background or something because the tablet tech behind the screen can run YT just fine. The limitations are all to do with the screen: E ink struggles to get up to 15fps and there's still a lot of ghosting making that kind of content unwatchable, but at the same time that's leaps and bounds ahead of what it used to be able to do, considering video could hardly play at all on e ink previously. Social media is usable and a joy on Kaleido 3 e ink screens even at low frames, and GIFs look like the moving pictures out of the Harry Potter movies!
@@jimbovandalen9676I've been watching videos on eink devices for a long time now and for me it's a great way to protect my eyes
An a11y angle often overlooked: The lack of flickering pixels was a MUST have when I was recovering from a concussion. It's hard to explain, but for 8 months after a bicycle accident I had a very limited "budget" for screens and electric light! My Onyx Boox Max 3 (sheesh what a name) allowed me to do email and Slack and take notes in a meaningful way.
watching on one now and it looks good!
The attempted 'pinch and zoom' on the real sketchbook was too relatable. after all my time with tablets, yeah...
As a person thats been using a kindle basic 4th gen i don't have any issues with ghosting, and i have high hopes for this, and the fact that it has some android store really is exciting.
Oh, also, thr longevity of the device is something that matters to me. My kindle 4th ed is from 2011 and it still runs just as it did feom thr box, almost (the difference is negligible).
These have a very poor reliabily rep', with many stories of them breaking fast, especially the screen splitting because the battery swells. I want one, but not at such a high price and a high failure rate
This is the perfect example of a look at how cool this is, you will probably by one in 10 years and love it
Thank you for covering this device, sometime this year or so is when id like to upgrade from my Gen 1 Kindle Oasis and what i have been looking for a color eink reader with Android on it so this might just be the one I get unless I can find a better one 🙌🔥
Just think how far e-ink has come in the last few years, one of these days we'll have e-ink displays with Wacom capabilities and sharpness, it'll be incredible!
I mean the bamboo slate is a thing
I think these do use wacom
Mine just arrived today and I can't stop writing and doodling on my books ;)
Hey professor Brad (You have your own Art School hence the Title), great video as always!
Just wanted to ask about the artwork that we see on the screen of the Boox Note Air 3 C in the thumbnail image; did you draw it using only this device? Because it does look really good. I always wanted to get a remarkable 2 but now I am also considering this device. Which one would you suggest for the purpose of note taking and sketching?
I loved my Onyx Boox Note plus when I got it. It was and still could be awesome for sketching. My issue with it was the artificial way the updates kept ruining it. To the point that the latest update just bricked my device. I kept accepting the updates hoping it would fix the bugs, but it just got worse. If it remained unchanged it would still be an awesome e-ink sketchbook.
Reality is, that e-ink is super limited. This is perfect replacement for pen and paper. So perfect for jotting down ideas, or even do a layout for a comic and export the pdf to clip studio on your computer and use it as a starting point.
The remarkable 2 sounds good, but the subscription stuff is a turn off, and I’m now on the Fujitsu Quadreno. Also has a Wacom pen. It’s not good for final work, but I use it a lot to jot down my ideas, doodle. It’s a great way to keep things digital and not have the Cintiq and iPads shine at my eyes 15 hours a day.
I would love to see Brad keep this for a few years and keep us posted how the updates fair on these things. With their constant hardware updates I have a feeling they still keep this practice 😢
What do you feel about just reading on it?
@@Noodlepunk well the last update literally bricked it. So can’t do anything except look at the Onyx Logo.
Off-topic: Your light game back there. Love it!
Can you read newspapers on this? Kindle closed their newspaper access and I need a new e-reader that will give me access to my newspapers when traveling.
So now we know what you did with that S-Pen 😅 I bought a boox over a decade ago and it's still working great... as a e-book reader. The reason I bought it back then instead of a Kindle, was the great pdf support it had. The battery still lasts weeks. Can't say the same of our decade old iPad.
Have you ever played with one of those cheap $5 LCD drawing pads for kids? My toddler has one and I find it great for doing drawing exercises and is similar to drawing on a screen.
5 dollars?????!!!
Really like my Kindle Scribe (updates have been great!) I'll check this other one out though.
I always love the humor on your videos lol. thanks for this review!
You can change the eraser mode so that it doesn't delete the whole line.
One small correction: It's important to note the distinction between a front light and a backlight. This has a front light.
haha loved the 'not ad' ads :)
I feel like if you like to sketch (especially when you're out and about) and would use it for comics/manga/reading it seems like a fantastic thing to have.
Have you tried a supernote for drawing?
I have so much hope for this one. I already quit to try to find a tablet for me coz every device hurts my eyes. I hope this could work as a portable reading/drawing thing!
Hi great review. I want to learn digital art so what tablet would you recommend for this. I know what school to go to lol.
Is it possible to give the onyx note air more pen like feel ?
Maybe cange the stylus or install screen protector?
If I worked on a Tech Art manufacturer company...
sure would put Colbow reading creating and testing an signature product
Do you guys notice? MOST of critique from him is related to major incompetence from manufacturer on their Product Design .... on Software and Hardware
As a BOOX fanboy, I wanted to scream at you a few times throughout the video 🫠 when you reference the lag in the other Android apps, you're able to change the refresh settings manually if you swipe down and hit E-Ink Settings; the 5 presets are basically left is slow (no ghosting), right is fast (but more ghosting).
I'd be curious to know if your experience improves, or if you already tried adjusting the settings and just didn't mention it in the video? EIther way, I love seeing BOOX in my everyday life and especially on one of my favorite CZcams channels 👍
Would love to see you review the supernote nomad!
how this compares to remarkable 2 (provided colored screen is not priority)?
For sketching, this is competing with the index cards that I bring to the library to sketch on and then scan using the free access scanner. The index cards run 75 cents for 100 3x5's at Target, and I get to use all my traditional drawing supplies on them and spread them around the desk for as many double-sided "screens" as I want. If I want to go bigger it's possible to find up to 5x8 cards, although the ones I have sampled at that size are not really heavy or stiff enough to satisfy me.
It'll be way more interesting if it gets to the point where you can say, "all the apps work great on it", because the screen and battery life is really interesting otherwise.
just one word, can't undo
I would love to have one of these. However, the price jees? I bought my PS5 lesser than that.
EInk tablets use Frontlights (not Backlight, as you were saying). Frontlights shine onto the screen to illuminate it. Whereas LCD and OLEDs use backlights where the lights are shining through the screen into your eyes. That’s why eInk is easier on the eyes, especially for reading.
I love the previous version. Note Air 2. But not for drawing.
I use it for sketching software designs. And making notes during work. So everything gets synced to OneNote or word etc because you can install it.
I have chosen it for its very direct response while drawing and Android. So I wouldn't recommend it for drawing but for notes, it's great.
cool, thanks for telling us about this. I have been wanting one for so long but these prices are just too high still :/
I have the Boox Note Air 2 Plus, and I love it! I love reading and writing on it. On that note, you can use other styluses. I lost my Boox pen almost immediately and used my S Pen for my Galaxy Tab S6 Lite while I waited for my replacement to come in. My favorite wacom stylus is PalmScribe EMR stylus. It feels like a pencil but has that awesome pen sound.
Oh, and certain apps are more optimized for this. OneNote works great for writing, though it's best to turn off hand touch because it sometimes refreshes weird.
You said this can install Clip Studio Paint??? (albeit with some lag?) Please confirm. THank you.
Is it possible to use Office 365? And can I share the screen to a TV?
I don't produce polished digital art anyway so this looks really cool
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!!
Hi, Brad! Do I need to have a mandatory Google account or can it work without it?
Thanks Brad. Nice review as always. On my channel I take a look at these e-ink tablets from a professional work life perspective. I've been on at Boox to bring in their own version of a full drawing app for some time now, because they would do an amazing job and you would have none of the lag in the third party android drawing apps. :-)
And yep! I do that, I slow down the camera. ;-)
(And are you aware that it is the same pen tech as the Wacom one? They all are, the remarkable, kindle scribe and many more.)
Ahhh, I didn't realize that they all used the Wacom pen. That's good to know!
@@thebradcolbow 🙂 yeah it's so good, and there's a whole range of stationery you can buy which is interchangeable. You've picked the best three for drawing, I'm hoping one of them will make an eink tablet designed purely for artists. The Boox Tab X might be the best so far, as it's twice the size of screen!
Could you are a video on how to restore your purchases on Ifinite painter?
Hi Brad - did you try out the different screen refresh modes? I have the Boox Ultra (non color) - using different modes in different apps made a world of difference for notes/drawing and watching video
Came here to say this. It looks like he's using the default for whatever app he's using. And the drawing app probably needs to be changed to the fastest refresh.
@@JacobEngelbrechtGollander yep. With the boox devices you’re given a lot of freedom. In addition to the special modes they created/offer, you can have your screen clear the ghosting every touch/tap if you aren’t as concerned about your battery life.
E-ink technology is really cool, I just wish the manufacturers (outside of remarkable) had a grasp on their audience & how to walk newbies through a complicated device with new technology
U think it can work with 3d apps like nomad? Really dont use color while sculpting
Hi Brad! In which position would you place the XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) in the ranking of 16" screen reviews on your website? Above or below the Huions and cintiqs you tested? I find this ranking very useful and would help me decide my choice.
Thank you very much!
I would say go for xp pen pro 16.if you got the budget then of course without a doubt go for cintic.
what if you are left handed? any issues to note?
I’ve been watching you for years now and honestly I hope someon makes a. E-ink or paper like display drawing tablet that is purpose built for artist … I feel like the iPad and surface pro have elements of this even the asus line is doing some effects but I feel like they are bogged down by the computer aspects of them
Wow! Are you related to Chef John from Food Wishes? Your voices are identical. Thanks for the review ☺
Wanted to hear the difference of screen writing when compared to Supernote or remarkable 2. I was waiting for Supernote 5X2 but this looks more appealing if the note taking quality is similar.
I've always had a love-hate relationship with the upper tier ereaders for having Wacom EMR pens galore while art tech had/has more limited options for EMR compatible devices. For most artists,
this product is an example of "Buy the pen, not the tablet" - but that's just fine. I hear the erasers for some Boox pens work on other devices, so i cant wait (they're pressure sensitive too!)
In a nutshell, BNA3C trade-off color & versatility for native speed/battery life of Kindle Scribe & Remarkable 2.
As a person who has both of Ur art courses, the 🔌 (no matter how shameless or outta sync) are funny none the less.
For an author artist what do u recommend
Hi sir can you please review veikk v1200 please that screen graphic tablet is cheapest tablet
How is the latency when writing?
Can u plz do a tab s8+ vs tab s9+ or a tab s9 fe vs tab s7 fe also love ur vids keep up the great work
7:50 yeah that's the problem for me. I have a Note Air (1st gen) and the problem for me is that the notes app doesn't allow layers with opacity adjustment (a key part of my ideation process is refining my work in successive layers). And the apps from the Play store that do have it don't work well with the pen -- super laggy. Please let us know when there's an e-ink tablet that gets them *both* right. That will be HUGE.
why don’t you use the colors? sketch in blue or grey and ink in black on another layer?
@danibal1240 yeah that could work, but sometimes I don’t have a pre-set number of iterations in mind. I never know ahead of time if I’m inking until I’m done. Just my process I guess.
Hi, can you do a review of Huawei Matepad 11.5? Please.
Will you be reviewing that Xp Pen Artist 22 Plus that just came out? That'd be pretty cool
Yep, just got one!
@thebradcolbow That's super cool! We pre-ordered one when it came out. We had a code and got it for 401.89. The wait is so looong 😭
@@thebradcolbow Hi Brad! In which position would you place the XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) in the ranking of 16" screen reviews on your website? Above or below the Huions and cintiqs you tested? I find this ranking very useful and would help me decide my choice.
Thank you very much!
Why did i think this was from months ago. I need start brad school again tho lol i been slacking (it's been months and i forgot everything)
Can you review Ultra Tab C ?
I wish there is a basic model just for reading, but with the same screen and SD-card slot and with a lower price.
There are some,
Books had more color e-inks that are more basic than this one
It will take another 15 to 20 years for color eInk to compete with the level of iPad we have now, I think most big corp are not serious on investing in e-ink hence taking ages for this tech to evolve
I am returning it because it didnt have palm rejection, that it significantly compromises the device's usability and overall user experience for my needs. The primary purpose of my purchase was for seamless writing and effective utilization of a planner without the need for cumbersome navigation adjustments.
I hope it is not to late but there is a setting in the nites app too turn off touch in thecanvas area. Of course that is kind of a comprose and not what you would expect from an expensice device. Happy new year!!
The WiFi on my Note 3C stopped working and has rendered the device completely useless. There’s a “!” on the WiFi symbol and it just doesn’t connect to anything. Have reached out to customer care. Hopefully either they resolve or take the device back. Have only had it for about 10 days.
Anyone that has one of these tried Tachiyomi yet? This would be perfect for manga/comics/webtoons when you're not drawing.
I was thinking about the same. Also now that tachiyomi would no longer be in development you would also try Mihon (it's same as tachiyomi)
Anyone got an idea of how good this works with superdisplay and Photoshop?
A firmware update is need in Boox note taking app :
1. The ability to create table of contents like in superonte a5x and a6x
2. link star should be like supernote do you could know it is registered.
Can’t wait for the new Carta 1300 screens. That’ll be a game changer for 2024
I love these reviews, but usually they don’t reflect prolonged real-world. I’m a pilot, got a Boox to have flight details handy when we’re flying… the screen stopped working and the Boox support has been terrible. They want $245 to fix the screen and $25 for shipping. Chinese copy-paste support. Too bad.
Hopefully we’ll see a 2024 drawing tablet buyers guide soon🤞
Battery on this device is way closer to an ipad than a normal e-reader
Can I install Concepts?
Nice video, can you test the NextPaper by TCL it has the same paper feel but much faster
It just seems like a normal led android tablet with a matte/rough screen protector. Would be cool for him to review but its not e-ink tech
to me sounds as a nice product. I already spend to much time on lcd screens and i would like a paper-like experience to be productive and with this table i can... todoist, notion sand many other stuff i can use without punishing my eyes for more hours
Thanks for the review... May I request Amazon Fire 10 (2023) review? I heard some people it's pretty good for drawing (it has pressure sensitivity) and it's very cheap.
Can You review paper And pencil, And pit them against the modern stuff?
It’s how most of us started, budget friendly And let’s be honest
The best pencil & paper feel…
That is a real request… professionals dont abandon actual paper And pencil for the rest of their lives After discovering wacom or whatever, unless they do… And please say so
“ real paper And pencil, only for kids, Poors , And amateurs “ pro’s go digital
@@jimbovandalen9676 AFAIK, Brad is only reviewing digital art stuff. If you're interesting in traditional medium, there are other art channel out there that review both digital and traditional art medium.
what's the point of this colour version if when you need colours to see you need a proper instrument to convey it. b&w version is fine but this
Honestly for what it is it's not too bad but like the price is just way too high considering what you can and not do
I remember when 4096 colors was a REALLY BIG DEAL, back when I bought my first Amiga computer.
Whoa $500, for this... Yeah, I'm checking out early on this one. Thanks for the video anyway.
love the b-teir jokes in the morning
hehe, I aim to please 🤣
So a drawing kindle basically
I like the 7.8 air.
But would have potentially loved it more if it were able to be a planner, organiser, diary first. And a reader second.
Rough eg of how I pic it on the nova air at least.
czcams.com/video/ABCXRMvdxCk/video.html
How does the durability of the air3c feel though? Could you see a student throwing it in a school bag with books etc and it making it out alive?
Thanks for covering this. These devices continue to intrigue me, but after trying a Kindle Scribe and returning it, they are truly niche products. I already have a Kindle Paperwhite for reading. I could not justify keeping the Scribe for its developing sketching features while already having a Samsung Galaxy Tab that allows for drawing and so many other Android things.
Like I want one of these but the price is CRAZY expensive. I might as well get an actual ipad with a matte screen protector.😅
It is latency is high af
I don't belive any artist can bear with the lag and the flickering during the process of sketching on E-ink screen...
It is an e-ink reader with android OS….. not a tablet.. if you define it this way you can chose more wislely..it is a dream for bookworms, not for tablet owners
Why hasn’t anybody put an eInk display underneath a transparent OLED yet? I imagine it would need to be edge lit, but…. maybe there is some possibility there.
Because Oled is a failed technology. OLED has burn in, uses to much power and is difficult to make. It's being slowly replaced with mini and micro Led screens.
@@bashfullJ88 OLED is far from “failed”. Micro LED is definitely more reliable though.