The Evolution of the Big Baler
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2016
- An interesting comparison between a baler that is over 20 years old and a current generation baler, it is quite interesting how each baler effects the tractor differently, both tractors are around 300hp but the massive flywheel in the Krone smooths out the ram strokes so that the tractor can run smoothly, in contrast the tiny flywheel on the Hesston puts the ram stroke directly pack to the engine on the 7270 resulting in a big grunt and puff of smoke as the engine deals with the sudden extra load.
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That old Hesston is making that JBC bark! But that engine grunt and turbo sounds real mean. That Krone can really eat too. It's amazing how far they have come.
i will say this is a promo video for krone.. i love my krone i have never had such an easy summer of baling.. you can see the Heston is dribbling straw out the side of the pickup losing valuable product.dont get me wrong heston makes good balers but the Krone is a class all its own. i am still coming over to see you George just need to finish up over here before i go there..
He's losing a little straw not panning for gold dumb ass.
+Great Northwest fuck off shit head he has valid point
+Chad Abel Wes can't help but put others peoples equipment down. One way or another.
onelonelyfarmer, could you please keep your viewers under control? Starting to think the only reason you contacted George was to try and poach some of his viewers. I use to follow you, then you went spewing some hate speech about the government and I unfollowed due to it. I followed you again after you contacted George thinking that you may have gotten your channel and mouth under control... apparently not. I'm unfollowing you again. I follow George due to the fact that his channel lacks the toxicity I found in your's, but you brought it here. Serously, people follow George for his videos on farming and not to be bombarded by the BS found in the thread following this post you made.
+Jamie Vetere your right. keep Wes and his trash off of here
Amazing video and comparison, one of your best George! Keep going!
I like the air blast on the krone over the top of the knotters towards the end
Grate video it's nice to see the old equipment out and still doing a good job. Yes obviously the older equipment goes slower but still pumping out the bails.
Great video and idea George
Great vid as always mate.
Quite the monster windrows! Interesting to see how much tougher the Heston is on the engine, with that exhaust puff every second or so.
I like the air blast on the krone on the top for the knotters towards the end
Old hesston still running! Great balers.
Looks like the pickup on the Hesston is missing a fair amount of material. The Krone pickup is massive, doesn't miss anything. If anything, the Hesston may be running too fast on that size windrow, it looks like the material is piling up on the outside.
When you think about it George in that 20 years its not just the machinery technology thats changed but in a way how the farmer acts/thinks.
for example today its contractors every were running the biggest machinery they can time is money and all that, back in the days of the Heeston 20+ years ago things were a little more layed back with the farmer normaly doing his own work in the fields.
and also combine headers were not as large as today so the swaths were a lot less dense as your working with today.
happy days i wish i could go back to the 80-90's they were golden times for machinery for me.
top video pal.
Back to the 80s i wish i could go and see what ut was like then
I love that sound from the jcb with the hesston baler
Very nice video!
Great companion video
Interesting comparison. Should do one with the Krone and an old small baler. That would really show the difference of farming today and 50 years ago, my holiday job while at school.
Great video George from Ireland.
J’adore ce genre de vidéo bravo 👍👍
The Krone is a beast.
Sure seems to be the better engineered of the two machines. Runs smoother and doesn't cause the engine to surge, unlike the Hesston baler.
Good video
Good video George that's it the end of the Hesston now
it was nice to see the two big Baler side-by-side what all do you Bale over there
It's easy to see the benefits of the giant flywheel in the Krone during this comparison. How many bar is the chamber set to? Nice square bales.
nice video..quick question do tractors have skid plates on the underside of them
tractor transmissions love the hesston :)
They have. come a long way since the beginning.
thatbigpack whoopes some tail
great video George what a difference between the two balers you can see why the krone is so expensive thanks for making
The krone balers are trash compared to a Heston 4900/4910/ Massey 2100/2200 series
Heston 4900 good old days.
30 to 40.000 cubes a year haha.
Fun times
Big upgrade. The older baler is chugging the tractor up and down. The new Krone is so smooth. What does all this straw get used for?
What are the main difference in the 8000 and 7000 series tractors??
wow close but not so close much faster on the new one but at what cost with the new one? Over the Hesston.
The old baler is making the JCB work !!
JD Munro driver trying to stay with the new one
The Hesston is the MOTHER of All.... Butt please Think that machine was made in the early 1980 in the USA.. Krone made the first Big baler in 1993.... so for 13years Hesston was the King, and still is in my World , because i was a little kid AS i for the frist time Saw the Hesston. And in 2011 Krone came with the higspeed bigbaler and here we Can se the differens in speed. Butt let us see the test,Krone and the New Fendt 1290UD or the New Massey Ferguson2370-that the New generation from Hesston in Kansas.
Nice film and i have tears in my eyes when i hear that JCB Roar..♥️♥️♥️I remember that Sound form my childhood.
Sorry for my bad english, im Danish...
Was wondering if the constant surging of the engine like that, with every baler ram stroke, causes any ill effects on the tractor engine ?
That has to be a little hard on the tractor surging the engine like that over the season?
I split a ford 8730 piston using that baler
I must say. those krone bales are so big and soild you could most likely build a good sized straw brick building from them :) they must really be heavy ones to move around? thank heck for telehandlers etc. I guessing here But I think you love JCB tractors the best :) nice video as normal sir.
fucking love theres videos keep it up lads
It is easy to see that you are in a whole different class then onelonleyfarmer. You sir know what you are downing and how to work for your money and living. Great job!
try the hesston on the tw!
I don't care about smoke going into the atmosphere but doesn't the 7270 seem like it is giving off a little too much?
It's amazing to see the side by side comparison that krone is s beast amazing piece of equipment but then again it should be for the cost of it. However the old girl can still get the job done if called on you think your ford could run the krone
Good vid, but really George adds 😂
yess... the krone baler is the best on the market and the second place goes to claas... thats a huge diffrent level to this lovly hesston baler on the USA.... quality Made and Engeneerd in Germanny 😎💪
First thing
i heard was how the engine did not run smoothly on the tractor pulling the Hesston- didn't sound 'right.' Thanks for the explanation.
the flywheel it's smaller then the krone baler (and all new balers) so every stroke the requirement of torque go up and the engine increase the torque at the pto by increasing the rpm
between 2:30 and 2:55 of this video-if you listen just the sound of the krone baling,it sounds just like Kennedy's Funeral Drum Cadence
I actually like the way the Heston makes that old girl bellar
What's the yellow thing with wheels on the jcb with the red baler on
its a tools and spares box, with wheels so you can press down large swaths...
Oh right cheers 👍
Does the JCB struggle to run that Heston baler
the Heston baler has a smaller flywheel, so it pushes the engine harder when it stuffs. Compared to the Krone that has a much larger flywheel, that keeps it running at the same rpm easier, but harder to start. You can also go faster with the krone because it is running smoother. It just goes to show how things have changed since they first came out, to now.
And it has to be said The Krone Big Square Baler has come a long way! Lets be honest, the very first Krone Big balers were just trash, now they seem to be amongst the best .
If you were using a period correct tractor on that old baler it wouldn't surge like that.
and how is that
It was a joke, I never put that much thought into it as to why it wouldn't lol
That old baler needs more torque
don't know why you need so much HP on the front of the Heston , when I used to drive one back in the late 80s I had a john Deere 4440 on it and that was enough power.
I ran a New Holland bb940a this summer with a 4440. It works but it ran much better when we switched to
the 4640. that extra 25 horsepower makes a big difference.
I ran a 4800 with a mf 3680 in 1988 and 1989,dont recall its engine surging much at all,also ran a aluminium sheet all the way from front axle to the rear,kept windrow nice and tidy,,,,good clip by the way.
That tractor just working on the older baler
Old 4900 might be a bit much for jcb tractor
Which baler was still working after 20 hours?
probably the Hesston because the Krone was finished with its work..
Take it you haven't watched George's next video.
not yet why ?? did he break the krone?
+onelonleyfarmer Sure did,poor old George had to bale all night.
wow i am watching it now.. glad i didn't buy the 4X4 model i have had relatively no problems
why is it surging
I bet that Heston consumes the fuel the way it pulls that tractor over and over.
I.ve driven an old hesston....................LIKE A BAT OUT OF HELL !
Aye it's DAFT, innit? - driving OVER the large swath. Could never figure out why we, Europeans ( still ;-) ) don't use the Continental High wagon Hitch ABOVE the Pto shaft, for coupling up , or even want to drive OVER the swath - why the Manuf'rs don't make a folding side delivery pickup.
Could comment upon cutting across the Sowing - across tramlines = not very healthy either; and maybe the Hesston Driveline needs more than just a service: Have seen large Deere Balers running with broken Shearbolt so that the flywheel freewheels on the bearing drag - not so obvious to the unexperienced onlooker.
That old 4900 will always make a better bale than that krone
Great video do you like my video
Hesston bale are much heavier!