How the D&H sharks got their warbonnet (slideshow with authentic sound)
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- How the Sharks got their warbonnetThis is a second slideshow about the D&H sharks. A few slides are repeated from the first Shark presentation but the majority are new. All of the sound is new. NOTE: ERROR...Builders Plate designations are reversed 1216 labeled plate is really 1205 and vice versa.
I got to run these engines a lot on the D&H, it was an something to remember.
How did they handle?
@@fleetwoodvo8673 a little slow, but fun to run,
@@thomaslampkins8799 Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you for the demonstration.. that has sparked a new line of thinking on how to layer paint 🎨!!
Thanks for letting engine sounds be the background music for this video.
I never thought Baldwin produced good-looking diesel cab units, but these sharks are looking better and better to me now. Their noses are to me reminiscent of a 1940s streamlined steamer.
D&H's "PA-4s" were rebuilt by Morrison & Knudsen in Boise, ID. Since they were former ATSF warbonnet units with stainless steel sides (hard to paint), the units retained Santa Fe's scheme.
On another channel, saw 1216 being moved. Hopefully it was stripped down for easier access to interior and not to be sending it to the scrapper
I'm getting hooked on 1205 / 1216... Jason Asselin did a little video just last week and I never knew anything about these engines. I remember them from the 60's and 70's vaguely.. this was great!
I just seen jason"s video. Thats how i ended up here.
Just saw a video where Escanaba & Lake Superior is donating the last two sharks to museums. They moved 1216 (the one that had the crankshaft failure) from Escanaba MI to Wells MI- and it is in sad shape. Most of the body panels are missing. Supposedly 1205 is in better shape and could theoretically be put back in service.
Really great stuff here. Thanks for preserving history.
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Thank you so much for sharing! This is some amazing history!
Beautiful Video!!!
The Penn Central and Affiliated lines mired in bankruptcy should never have been allowed credit to buy brand new EMT locomotives. They should have used the funds they had and the workforce they had available to rebuild the engines that they had already. They could have prolonged the lives of many first generation diesels by simply maintaining them properly in the first place. Cost imposed neglect was a big problem on the northeast railroads.
Were the full size locos painted in this way? A lot of paint used that's never seen.
Very nice job covering this was glad to watch it, Hopefully these sharks could end up out in the public again even if they never run again
WORKING FOR AT&SF MECHANICAL DEPT 1964-1995
WE HAD A NUMBER OF BALDWIN
6 CYL TURBO SWITCHERS!
THEIR ENGINES WERE THE BIG BORE SLOW SPEED 750 RPM UNITS! WE ALSO HAD ALCO
S-2 UNITS WITH SIMILAR
ENGINE SPECS WITH THE
539 SERIES ENGINES!
ON VERY RARE OCCASIONS WHEN THE EMD TR DOUBLE ENGINES
WERE HUMP PUSHERS WERE IN THE SHOP FOR LONGER TIMES THAN USUAL, THEN THEY WOULD
MU 2 ALCO SWITCHERS OR 2 BALDWIN SWITCHERS!
THE TURBOS WOULD REALY WHISTLE ON THE ALCOS WHEN STARTING THE WEST BOUND HUMP TRAINS!!
WITH THE BALDWINS THERE WAS ALSO A TURBO WHISTLE BUT NOT AS LOUD!
BUT BOTH THE ALCOS AND BALDWINS SOUNDED QUITE IMPRESSIVE WHEN THEY DUG IN AND GOT THEIR GRIP!!
I WISH I HAD SOME GOOD RECORDING EQUIPMENT IN THOSE DAYS!!
TO ME HAVING GOOD ENGINE
SOUND ON VIDEOS IS EQUALLY
IMPORTANT AS THE VISUAL
PART!!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
👍👍
The photo at 1:53 was taken at North Creek, Adirondack Branch when they were shipping out of the Tahawus mines. Engine house and standpipe are behind the RS3 locomotives.
Well done sir! I painted up a set in HO scale as well. Not as nice as your work... but I still have them after all these years.
Veritable treat of rare units! I don't believe I have ever seen any of these, many thanks and WOW!
Beautiful
I loved this
How did you get the correct measurements for the making or did you guess?
I used reference points from photos of the prototype
like train
Why "warbonnet"? Why not just "bonnet"?
Thanks for putting together the films of the old steam locomotives.
The D&H purchased 4 Alco PA's from the Santa Fe and they were in the railroads "WarBonnet" paint scheme' The name was a tip of the hat to native American culture. The red was replaced by D&H with Champlain blue and they became D&H's warbonnet or occasionally BlueBonnet.. As the slide show illustrates I offered paint scheme options to the D&H one was WarBonnet, one was D&H freight scheme and one was NYC inspired scheme.. They chose the warbonnet.. that is the rest of the story
@@jaywinn481
"The name [warbonnet] was a tip of the hat to native American culture."
Some kind of cruel joke, right?
@@ralphaverill2001 The Warbonnet scheme was created by the GM design department in the mid 1930s to coincide with the new train The Super Chief. The ATSF named their premier train the Super Chief so I don't think it was meant as a racial slur. Besides this was way before this country devolved into a whining bunch of morons who get all exercised about "political correctness' with everything....
@@jaywinn481 The railroads encouraged and accelerated the annihilation of an entire native population, but naming a train Super Chief and adorning it with a "warbonnet" graphic was not intended as a racial slur. It was a gesture of respect? Admiration maybe? "A tip of the hat to native culture," which the railroads, and many others, worked quite effectively to exterminate? You bet.
This isn't about political correctness; it's about acknowledging genocide.
@@ralphaverill2001 OK Ralph you win.. Let's just enjoy the old train films