Great video. I am told that if it’s not installed by a supplier of the safe your warranty is void??? Where did you purchase the extrema digital/mechanical S&G lock and what was the cost? Can you send me a link for: how to install it? Thanks
Thank you for the presentation. When you need to change the number to the lock, do you simply change it via the electronic portion and the system transfers the information to the mechanical portion? Appreciate your reply.
The electronic lock has a code that you enter to change the electronic codes. The manual lock has a key that is inserted into the lock assembly inside the safe door and then you dial in the new combination numbers you want. Very easy to change the manual lock code but you have to access the lock assembly in the door which normally requires removing the inner safe door panel which can be a hassle. I decided to make a small hinged door in my door panel which allows easy access to the lock and this small door can be closed and is hardly visible. When I wish to change the code I open that door, insert the key into the lock and then dial in the new combination, remove the key, close up that small door, and I am all set. Takes a few minutes total.
i know im randomly asking but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost my account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me.
@Dash Theo i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
My Sargent & Greenleaf electronic lock on my high end safe died after about 4 years. I was always like thinking "It wont die, it will be fine. It still worked, but eventually over time quit accepting the code. Maybe 1 out of 20 attempts it would accept the code. It was getting difficult for me to get in. I just put a mechanical lock on it. I would NEVER use just a digital again. Especially a cheap S&G one.
Google Safe Logic Extreme lock and check for prices but the company I mentioned in the video has occasional sales and you can often get it there for well under $300, when on sale.
Sorry but the title may be slightly misleading as it really is EMP proof, but not necessarily the electronic part of the lock. EMP proof is for electronic locks only as manual mechanical combination locks are not electric and therefore are not subject to an EMP. So all safes with a mechanical lock could claim to be EMP proof and that they would be. Since this lock has both an electronic and a back-up manual combination lock, it is fully EMP proof. Even if an EMP would blow out the electronic keypad operation of this lock, the safe could still be easily opened by using the manual mechanical combination lock. It takes less than 30 seconds to get the safe open using the manual mechanical combination. The lock is EMP proof as if can be opened with the manual lock. There is no claim that the electronic part of this lock is EMP proof. Not needed as the mechanical part will always allow the safe to be opened. Some manufacturer claim their lock is EMP proof. Are you sure you can trust their word on that? They all have documentation listing what levels of EMP;s their locks can survive. If a very strong EMP hits close by it could blow out the claimed EMP proof lock. What is even more important than worrying about the chances of surviving an EMP is the fact that all electronic locks are subject to failure. Electronic parts can and do fail over time and use. If it fails and you can't get your safe lock to work, then how are you getting into the safe? Nothing to worry about if you have this lock.
Not sure what you are saying but if you are implying you could remove my exterior combination keypad/spin dial and replace it with your exterior lock, even if you used the same identical Safe Logic Xtreme model, you still would not be able to open the safe. The exterior electronic/mechanical keypad/spin lock does not hold the combination, but is only a connection to the inner locking mechanism. The actual combinations, both electronic and manual, are held within the interior locking mechanism inside the safe door, not held in the exterior keypad/spin dial. So if you did replace the exterior keypad/spin dial, it would not open unless you had the combination I had programmed/set.
My Winchester electronic lock failed on the inside. They sent me a piece of crap plastic NL to replace piece of 💩 Lagard keypad but that did not work. The main problem with these people is you can't get to customer service when electronic lock stops working. I will do a video of the safe getting drilled and opened because I can't get any help. I will then weld some plate tool on inside of door where it was drilled and then I will replace the key pad with SafeLogic Xtreme emp resistance electronic and mechanical lock. I urge anyone thinking about buying a Winchester to call them first and see how many days and calls it takes to talk to someone.
That is the issue with electronic locks. If they fail how do you get into the safe. Because this lock is electronic and manual, if the electronic part of this lock should fail you just dial the mechanical combination and your in.
Nope...not even remotely the case. The overwhelming number of electronic locks do not come with a key. Mainly, this because a key lock is easier to pick...
@@CraigFogus Why pick it? Most of the locks with the bypass key use a semi-universal key. Meaning a credit card and internet access can get you the key.
Great video, well worth the money, I always worry about the digital locks, but this is the best of both worlds...
A safe is a long term investment and the higher price of this lock will not seem so high after a few years of no worries about getting locked out.
That's a really nice lock. My digital SecureRam went bad on me and I wish that I had known about this.
Both halves of mine went bad. Mechanical last, don't know how .
Thanks Rob!
Well done video.
I have a digital lock on my safe. Will this work on it? Or does it only work on safes that have dials to start with?
Great video. I am told that if it’s not installed by a supplier of the safe your warranty is void??? Where did you purchase the extrema digital/mechanical S&G lock and what was the cost? Can you send me a link for: how to install it? Thanks
Very sleek lock
Thank you for the presentation. When you need to change the number to the lock, do you simply change it via the electronic portion and the system transfers the information to the mechanical portion? Appreciate your reply.
The electronic lock has a code that you enter to change the electronic codes. The manual lock has a key that is inserted into the lock assembly inside the safe door and then you dial in the new combination numbers you want. Very easy to change the manual lock code but you have to access the lock assembly in the door which normally requires removing the inner safe door panel which can be a hassle. I decided to make a small hinged door in my door panel which allows easy access to the lock and this small door can be closed and is hardly visible. When I wish to change the code I open that door, insert the key into the lock and then dial in the new combination, remove the key, close up that small door, and I am all set. Takes a few minutes total.
robkarrob11 Thanks again.
i know im randomly asking but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account?
I was dumb lost my account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me.
@Calvin Oliver instablaster =)
@Dash Theo i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.
SecuRam is a quality brand
Can you use the same combination numbers for the mechanical lock as the electronic lock?
yes you can
When you took off the dial pad there were a few other screws, what happens if you unscrew them?
Nothing. They just hold the plate on.
@@TripleWhopperWithCheese , Ok thank you. Are you still happy with the lock?
I have had it now 11/2 years and I still recommend it as the best lock for safety and security and I never have to worry about getting locked out.
My Sargent & Greenleaf electronic lock on my high end safe died after about 4 years. I was always like thinking "It wont die, it will be fine. It still worked, but eventually over time quit accepting the code. Maybe 1 out of 20 attempts it would accept the code. It was getting difficult for me to get in. I just put a mechanical lock on it. I would NEVER use just a digital again. Especially a cheap S&G one.
where can I buy a electronic lock for my gun safe. I have a Red Head gun safe.
Google Safe Logic Extreme lock and check for prices but the company I mentioned in the video has occasional sales and you can often get it there for well under $300, when on sale.
Where did you get combo to operate mechanical lock?
There is a keyish thing and you set it. No longer available.
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i dont find any tests proofing these are emp proof
Sorry but the title may be slightly misleading as it really is EMP proof, but not necessarily the electronic part of the lock. EMP proof is for electronic locks only as manual mechanical combination locks are not electric and therefore are not subject to an EMP. So all safes with a mechanical lock could claim to be EMP proof and that they would be. Since this lock has both an electronic and a back-up manual combination lock, it is fully EMP proof. Even if an EMP would blow out the electronic keypad operation of this lock, the safe could still be easily opened by using the manual mechanical combination lock. It takes less than 30 seconds to get the safe open using the manual mechanical combination. The lock is EMP proof as if can be opened with the manual lock. There is no claim that the electronic part of this lock is EMP proof. Not needed as the mechanical part will always allow the safe to be opened.
Some manufacturer claim their lock is EMP proof. Are you sure you can trust their word on that? They all have documentation listing what levels of EMP;s their locks can survive. If a very strong EMP hits close by it could blow out the claimed EMP proof lock. What is even more important than worrying about the chances of surviving an EMP is the fact that all electronic locks are subject to failure. Electronic parts can and do fail over time and use. If it fails and you can't get your safe lock to work, then how are you getting into the safe? Nothing to worry about if you have this lock.
All I have to do is take yours off and pop on my SecuRam Safe Logic Xtreme and I'm in like Flynn ?
Not sure what you are saying but if you are implying you could remove my exterior combination keypad/spin dial and replace it with your exterior lock, even if you used the same identical Safe Logic Xtreme model, you still would not be able to open the safe. The exterior electronic/mechanical keypad/spin lock does not hold the combination, but is only a connection to the inner locking mechanism. The actual combinations, both electronic and manual, are held within the interior locking mechanism inside the safe door, not held in the exterior keypad/spin dial. So if you did replace the exterior keypad/spin dial, it would not open unless you had the combination I had programmed/set.
No, you're still Out Like A Scout unless you know the combo. The brains are on the inside on the safe, not in the keypad.
My Winchester electronic lock failed on the inside. They sent me a piece of crap plastic NL to replace piece of 💩 Lagard keypad but that did not work. The main problem with these people is you can't get to customer service when electronic lock stops working. I will do a video of the safe getting drilled and opened because I can't get any help. I will then weld some plate tool on inside of door where it was drilled and then I will replace the key pad with SafeLogic Xtreme emp resistance electronic and mechanical lock. I urge anyone thinking about buying a Winchester to call them first and see how many days and calls it takes to talk to someone.
That is the issue with electronic locks. If they fail how do you get into the safe. Because this lock is electronic and manual, if the electronic part of this lock should fail you just dial the mechanical combination and your in.
Almost every propper electronic safe has a key to open it too.
Nope...not even remotely the case. The overwhelming number of electronic locks do not come with a key. Mainly, this because a key lock is easier to pick...
@@CraigFogus Why pick it? Most of the locks with the bypass key use a semi-universal key.
Meaning a credit card and internet access can get you the key.