Why Every Automaker Is Begging For Helix's New eMotor
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- čas přidán 15. 10. 2023
- Imagine an electric hypercar that can zoom past any conventional supercar with ease. That’s the vision of Helix, a British electric motor manufacturer that has just revealed a groundbreaking new motor for its upcoming hypercar project.
This motor is not like any other electric motor you have seen before. It can produce a staggering 872 horsepower continuously, without overheating or losing efficiency.
In this video, we will explore how this motor works, what makes it so unique, and what it means for the future of electric hypercars.
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I agree with James mariani 984 "wow cool graphics, especially the ones with pistons while talking about the electric motor".
Very very convencing!!!!
wow cool graphics, especially the ones with pistons while talking about the electric motor.
Why does the video constantly 'demonstrate' the workings of an electrical motor with cylinders ?
Thats why they must be so efficient they push electricity around the motor :D
I guess since the INNengine looks like a radial motor! It is a cylinder! The swashplate is in fact... The STATOR!
Guy thought it was fancy looking enough and no one would notice.
I ask the same question. video may be put together with AI
It's bollocks
Stupid AI generated video.
"Uses a radial flux" -> then shows and describes axial flux motor
Yep. Caught that, too. Actually, watching the whole video, I'm guessing that they don't even know how the motor works.
It is an electric motor and then 80% of the graphics are combustion motors.
It's an age old "pancake" motor!
Is this presentation about a "new" electric motor or an ICE? I keep seeing pistons and one of the ICE engines shown was a 4-cylinder 8 opposed piston engine.
Wow, that's mind blowing. A 650kw motor in such a small space. I cant wait for the write offs!!
It seems like you like piston engines as you show them a lot.
So basically it's just the axial flux motor like in the koenigsegg
Axial flux. Radial flux is the other type of motors we've had for years
@thepeoplesupdates676 Thank you for catching my mistake it's embarrassing
@@isaacshehri3780 no problem buddy. Thank you for not taking it as disrespect. Have a great day and keep learning brother!
Koenigsegg developed the raxial flux motor, a combination of the radial and axial flux.
How is this better than other axial flux motors?
Just what the average family needs to persuade them to give up their petrol/diesel daily commuter, and go full EV.
A $Million Hypercar that does 0-200mph in under a second, costs more to insure than a helicopter, and gets written-off for a broken tail light.
Interesting , Thank You . I hope it works and can be mass produced.
As awesome as this is, i wish these electric motor manufacturers would also make better and more affordable motors for doing EV swaps in older cars. Currently there is a massive lack of decent performance motors for retro-fitting.
Give it time... The next 20 years are going to be amazing. The "Big 3" had their opportunity and they sat on their hands when they had the money coming out of WW2 for EV R&D and if you look at the combustion technology it didn't really change from 1945 to 1980.
It's someone else's turn now.
The bottleneck in EV technology currently is battery density. That needs to improve dramatically.
@@GrantOakes it does. not super fast but every year about 7% more energy density while being 5% cheaper. current cars are in the area of 600km range. not perfect for everyone but you can calculate yourself what we have in 5 years.
@@stefanweilhartner4415 perhaps the GREATEST bottleneck is the energy grid. There's absolutely no way they can increase the grid to accommodate a large shift to EV vs ICE.
@@GrantOakes absolutely not true. with the current speed of EV adoption we need about 1% more energy every year. every electricity provider is happy to make the grid stronger where it needs to be. why? because that means they can sell more electricity and make more profits. so, don't worry about it. the other thing is to use dynamic electricity prices to charge at times where electricity prices are low. that balances out the grid.
The best electric motor is the Lucid Air motor because it uses very little energy, and this is the most important thing
need this for my Sur-ron :D
Lots of mistakes, makes me think you aren't even checking your sources. But pretending it's not BS, the limiting factor in the Plaid is not the motors. The motors are limited by the battery packs peak output. According to Engineering explained, TMC tear downs both came to the conclusion that the peak output is nearly 1000BHP for just the rear drive unit. Also confirmed by this being the main drive unit in the Semi.
The Plaid has 3 motors and the front is not the same as the rear. The power density of the rear is about 70% higher than the front.
So why in the video do we keep seeing piston internal combustion engines and their operation?
With the battery in the bed, put together a kit to retrofit pickup trucks.
Would these work for a generator such as a wind turbine? E-bicycles are already great and this could make them better. Lawn and garden, battery power tools ect. The potential is vast.
on a plane an intake port can use wind to turn the engine. the power can go to a generator for props.
One of those will become an interesting motorcycle.
Or. Jet. Ski. !!
Why do you need a 900 + ft/lb motor to pull a 2000 lb. ( car ). Scale down the motor / battery to match the weight of the vehicle, then a regen motor ( small )
and you have a better, + more efficient saleable unit people can actually afford to buy.
EV’s weigh substantially more than a comparative ICE vehicle. It’s the battery packs that are the issue. EV’s require special tires because of that fact. But I tend to agree with you about the power output that a lot of EV’s have. The problem is that the vast majority of EV buyers, lack the skill required to safely operate them. So you have some average Joe behind the wheel of an insanely powerful and HEAVY vehicle, and that is a recipe for disaster.
The motors are way ahead of the batteries to support them!
If I can speed paint holograms with a jumbo crayon, you can make a selfrecharging live-in air ship
400 hp is more than enough for daily drivers . Range , on the other hand is something that is not mentioned .
Have built several pulse motors and the radial configuration has way more torque, it is self sustaining.
Today, there's at least 4 companies producing electric motors in the 10 hp/kg range. What there's only ONE of, so far, is the lightweight turbogenerators series being developed by Rolls Royce for the small aircraft market. Including a 300 lb version that generates legit continuous 500 KILOWATTS output power. Pair that w/ a 10 hp/kg motor weighing 180 lb (80 kg). You got yourself a continuously powered 670 hp motor, w/ ability to hit 800 hp. Weighing in collectively at 500 lb. And using 27 gallons of gasoline per hour to do it, at a turbogenerator efficiency of...
50%. 500 KWh = 1,706,071 btu/hr. Gasoline = 125,000 btu/gallon. Do the Math. That's ~170 lb of fuel/hr. And that's only when you actually need 670 hp. Under most conditions, drivers don't NEED 2/3 of that. 223 hp gets you round & about just fine, while using only 9 gallons/hr. By comparison, common 30 mpg vehicles use 3 gallons/hr.
A 60 miles/day routine involving city traffic conditions takes 3 hrs. A 1994 Ford F-250 XLT w/ 460 cu.in. V8 + Holly 4-barrel carb, getting 10 mpg in city, is using 3x as much fuel as the 30 mpg cars. About 9 gallons/hr. W/ max hp = 450 hp (OEM factory config).
As you can see, electric vehicles aren't that great for primarily stop-n-go driving. OTOH, for heavy lifting/long distance driving to places where regular large diesel shipping trucks in traffic gets complicated... these e-vehicles have the same power in a smaller lighter more maneuverable transport. And w/out burning diesel fuel to do it.
go check out "jacobs law" and then revise those figures to be more realistic of real world conditions ;) just because its 500KW into a resistor doesnt mean a motor can dissipate it. and generators are measured in kva due to reactive loads... show me a 500kw generator driving a 500kw motor delivering a genuine 500kw shaft power minus losses.
it doesnt work like that ;) advertising brochures like this rely on the fact that you arent aware of that minor detail.
turbines are terribly inefficient when not loaded.
smaller turbines are far more inefficient than large turbines.
"As you can see, electric vehicles aren't that great for primarily stop-n-go driving."
Can we? You mean as demonstrated by the numbers you've pulled out of your butt? How do they take into account "stop-n-go driving", where regen is a dramatic benefit? And how is an 800 hp drivetrain relevant at all?
"And w/out burning diesel fuel to do it."
But burning fuel nonetheless.
HOPE GENERAL MOTOR S IS PUTTING THIS IN THE ZORA CORVETTE..
LIKE. TWO 900 HP EACH REAR WHEEL AND ONE 400 HP IN THE FRONT
FOR A TOTAL OF 2200 HP. YA ONE CAN ONLY DREAM OF SUCH A
HIGH PERFORMANCE PLATFORM...LIKE THE CHASSIS IS ALREADY VERY
PROVEN TO HANDLE ALL THAT POWER..GO ZORA..
Ok, the motor is superlight👌 They cut weight to half - but the batteries….😁
ALL you need is a light gas turbine as range extender to minimize the battery pack
How fast is it spinning? I bet it’s spinning at a crazy 100,000 rpm plus to achieve that level of power.
Two banks of batteries and generators on the wheels like two fuel tanks except one tank is charging...
I'm guessing low price isn't one of the selling points.
Mixing up radial/axial flow , are you ... ?
Perfect for the Fiat 500e!😊
0:50 not a supplier yet... Inn inventor developer innovator.
A: it's too expensive for an average commuter car.
B: it's power consumption in dollars per HP is equivalent to a faster gasoline powered car.
C: maintenance cost will average $50 per 500 miles driven. That's $10,000 for every 100,000 miles.
D: the only logical application for this motor is short distance racing.
But how much does this motor weigh including the massive battery? The motor is useless without a battery. And as the battery discharges, the power goes down, but the weight remains the same. So the power to weight ratio is constantly decreasing during operation. Just the opposite is true for the IC engine. As the fuel burns off, the power to weight ratio increases.
new special type of motor ...aka "axial-flux" motor which is known for a while but it's hard to produce
Easier to wind
@@simonmasters3295 not sure what u mean
The electric motor can use for charging or can use for drive. We do not need electric recharge station.
I know that Koeniggsegg has something similar, but for a hypercar. Inhouse created and expensive!?
Well show us a diagram and how it works .
Now only to add a high efficiency ICE and final hybrid system will stop EV cars market growth!
Why does this video keep showing irrelevant piston IC engines while talking about electric motors for automotive applications? Also, they first compare this holy motor with the world record for Kw/Kg at 24,2 Kw/Kg while this motor weighs in at only 16.85 Kw/Kg (650Kw/41Kg). Why do they not show this instead of leaving it out so viewers won't have a clear basis for comparison?
The video has Axial flux and Radial flux mixed up. The motor that is the subject of the video is an axial flux motor, not radial flux.
Why are they using Koenigsegg tech?😮😮😮
You guys got your descriptions wrong. Axial flux, radial flux.
With all of the not accurate video sadly makes the promotion specs dubious.
Why don't you power the motor with a generator and use a battery to power the generator...
this mpotor is not new nor was it first developed by this company Millennial Research has patents on these technologies,
The narration seldom reflects what's on the screen.
You have a good motor, and why can’t you have a generator to drive the front motor,they had it back in 1897
Can this be reduced in size ? Lets say 1/10 in weight and power, being used in a cheap small car in mass-production. 800Hp is not what i want to use in my every day life.
Ev car fires is also booming, good luck 🤣
Why do you show us pictures and videos that have nothing to do with the electric motor shown?
All automakers are actually begging they started EV development rather than wast time and money on internal combustion tech.
I bet the super car company is Koenigsegg.
that would be enough hp for a 400lb motorcycle
4,000 lbs for the battery 🔋
872 HP can drive a semi
High power motors are easy to make. High power motors with high durability and low cost aren’t.
Hydrogen fuel cell + Axial motor = great power density!
What do you think?
Great now do it without rare earth magnets.
Vapor.
Beautiful work.
my research and study of graphene batteries over the past 15+ years indicates graphene would be a great match to this electric motor for every reason that matters most.
graphene has a greater energy density than lithium, safer (less fire hazard), abundantly available materials, recycleable, faster charging capabilities, longer cycle life and maintains capacity over a longer time period (longer lifespan). also, graphene batteries permit greater power output throughout a greater portion of the batteries capacity, compared to lithium. lithium loses power when the battery is near the end of its charge. graphene keeps going strong until the battery is near depleted.
couple this electric motor to graphene batteries, and you have a masterpiece.
Stay tuned for an upcoming video on graphene batteries! 👌
LOL Axial flux is NOT the conventional
How about designing the electric car where you utilize a 2 cylinder gasoline vapor powered engine coupled to a generator that supplies power to electric motors at the wheels. Like a downscaled version of today's modern Freight Trains. My comments get Shadow Banned by CZcams because I say things that make sense. No one wants an all electric car because they run out of battery power and you need to look for a charging station and if you find one in time , you have to wait an hour to charge it back up and you might be paying the same amount of money or more money than a gasoline powered car
This is Horse manure, axial flux motors are not new, as for PMSM motors, most cars use them heck even my E bike uses one. As for showing ICE motors when talking about Electric motors, guess their AI isn't as smart as they thought it was
Every automakers except for Tesla
Where is it that I will go with that motor? speed limit max 65 mph so next stop a speeding ticket and selling that car because can not afford insurance.
1:21 False..That at the 1:21 Is i.c.e. inn engine
Wait... did you _really_ say that, *_"The electric vehicle market is booming?"_* Where have you been? Toyota and GM have *_shut down_* EV production because they are losing money on _every EV they build._ Ford EVs are languishing on dealer lots everywhere and they're freaking out. GM, Ford, and *_even Tesla_* are delaying or cancelling planned expansion of EV production. Producers are slashing prices to sell these things! Even with incentives and government subsidies sales are slowing dramatically as the fantasy of EVs is colliding with the reality of high prices, lack of charging infrastructure, limited range, and the fact that they tend to burst into unquenchable fire. Jeez, I saw an EV that backed too far down the boat ramp, it got wet, shorted out, caught on fire. They let it become fully submerged and the damned thing burned *_UNDER WATER!_*
Soon as I heard that comment I quit
I don't trust a video claiming to represent an ELECTRIC motor while the video keeps projecting images of piston mobility. It's clear that the presenter is clueless!!
Only 930 go for 1k then your serious.
Small motor.... 2000kg battery. How about smaller battery technologies.
What is he talking about, "The electric car industry is booming", no one is buying them. They are piled up in the dealer's lots, this is a classic case of 'putting the cart before the horse". There is no suitable infrastructure to recharge these vehicles, the electric grid is already overloaded; this short sighted administration is throwing money around with no clear plan. Dealers are hurting over the stupid decision to force electric vehicles on a country that isn't prepared for it!
nonsense
maybe the pseudo automakers are waiting but not the real ppl
The saving in weight from the abandonment of the ICE usually equals the weight added by the use of batteries.
In other words, weight is not an issue.
I hope this PLUS the use of non-exploding sodium batteries can found an ev industry in the UK.
This is an area where we really don't want to get left behind.
Remember that our automobile industry, which in the 1960s, relied on 000s of semi-skilled workers - was destroyed from within by unions.
I have never forgiven the socialists who were responsible.
Err NO ... the EV market is NOT booming ... companies are having trouble selling them
look at Koenigsegg 's Dark Matter motor.....better!
Please, do not put on Motorcycle.
Who smoked what?
EV industry in dead end.
Lucid Motor better than this. 👍
The usage of rare earth materials will keep this design out of mass production for automotive use. As well, this video's use of unrelated graphics (pistons? wtf) and mistakes re axial vs radial flux make this video worthly of a downvote.
What makes me laugh is how Evs, ALL EVs, can out run any petro supercar.
Even the most modest family sedan can do it. Hey, there $$ to be made here.
Find a muscle car/supercar & challenge the owner to a drag race for CA$H.
THEN, educate him on how blindingly fast electrics are.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!
Maybe he will be at the dealership tomorrow & trade.
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This video is irredeemably flawed with gross conceptual error. Don’t watch it because you’ll come away knowing less than the zero knowledge you had before watching it, i.e. knowing WRONG things. 😳🙄
Worse than using showing IC engines when describing electric motors, this video states (and shows in the video) a fundamental conceptual error about axial vs radial flux.
Old motors use radial *magnetic* flux and the new “pancake” motors use axial magnetic flux. The video narration and animation have it absolutely backward, showing the electric current in the conventional motor.
These videos are always exemplified BS! UltiumTech is a game changer! (Cough cough)
Bull, this is nothing new.
Nothing new other saying it's a radial configuration etc. Just another fluff video
Pretty dorky to have images of ICE's in a video of electrics.
Are you really that desperate for footage?
Think about it. KB.
Yes the EV industry certainly is BOOMING with batteries exploding so badly car makers have stopped making them because they are too dangerous and insurance companies won't insure them and shipping owners won't ship them
What are you talking about, the model Y became the top selling vehicle. It’s still hilarious when people think that batteries are more flammable than gas tanks or that EV fires are anywhere near the level of gas vehicles fire statistics
@@xpeterson I don't know which planet you are living on but on Earth where I reside EVs are going on fire in abundance. Two days ago in my city, we had bus fires and a converted Cement Truck exploded causing severe damage to buildings and traffic
@@parttimetourist no way, an EV caught fire? It’s a good thing we rely on that anecdotal evidence rather than large scale studies by the National Transportation Safety Board or the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Here on planet earth, uncle Bob and his CZcams channel is the most reliable source of facts…
The EV market is not booming,,,,, this is a propaganda video.
There's A LOT of BSology in this video ! Ask any electrical car owner about the CO$T of replacement batteries !!!
Why does the video shows ICE cars and engines? What a sham!
Very few people want or can even afford an EV. The business is NOT booming. What's booming is government and activist propaganda. The world is not ready for EV.
Chinese have cheap EVs but american corporations are jealous racists
Very poorly done vi
No one wants an electric car, they suck.
Oil smells funny 🙂
LOL, now how long a cord does it come with
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