Dalish Elf Mage-specific Conversation with Solas at Haven (Dragon Age: Inquisition)
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- EDIT: Some of these conversations are "gated" only in the beginning. Solas will only share more information with humans, dwarves, and qunari after his approval is raised.
ORIGINAL: Humans, dwarves, and Qunari do not get some of this conversation. Elves are a bit more...special. Thanks Solas.
SPOILER CHECK: Conversation at Haven - approximately 2 hours into Dragon Age: Inquisition.
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Lavellan: What's your problem with the Dalish, allergic to Halla?
Solas: Yes, deathly allergic
Who is Halla ?
@@lebarondeminuit3580 they're animals LMAO
@@bunni_zen
Yes
you know what i find interesting about this conversation, someone who's new to this game might perceive this dialogue to be an argument, which in hindsight it is, but if you know this game enough, you can see the disconnect with Solas and a dalish Inquisitor. so when you look at the dialogue options, most people would take it as, how does a simple question get turned into bickering. well i can answer it in one way, if your playing as a human, dwarf, or Qunari, this line of dialogue would not go this way. it only goes like this if your Inquisitor is an elf, a dalish elf at that. if you ask this question from a humans perspective or dwarf, he's more than happy to share, but the reason is because, he knows less about you than those who call themselves dalish. however if you played this game before, then despite how much knowledge Solas knows regarding the past, he's not as caught up with dalish. the way he sees them are, how much the elves have changed. since he knows more than they do, he feels a certain guilt, so even though he's not trying to be condescending to a dalish Inquisitor, for him it's more like a defense mechanism. but because this is the early part of the game, your Inquisitor is not gonna pick up on who he is, so to the Inquisitor they took as why are you being so snappy. by the way no matter which dialogue option you choose, the conversation still starts out a little condescending. i love inky, but that's also why i like playing as a human. playing as a elf is pretty interesting and fun, but as you progesss throughout the game, you'll find certain conversations and dialogue options can often end up in a similar manner.
"Varric by his chest hair and not his wit?"
...I think that's a more difficult question than Solas intended.
... Are we talking about the Shakespearean euphemism, or am I just being dirty minded?
One cannot simply notice the glorious chest hair
Why can't it be both though?!
Love that line if you're a mage and you choose the flirt option 'side benefits?' and Solas goes all kinky hinting about 'domination'.
+Illusive Man It also happens if you choose to not be a mage. I saw a playthrough with an elf who was a warrior or something and he said something along the lines of "your admirable flexibility" and that seeing it would be enjoyable. XD
+Illusive Man hothothothothothothot
i can so see solas being a dom
darkflame728 that's what he says to a rogue, he compliments a warrior's muscles
I played a rogue and it went something like this:
Solas: The grace with which you move is a pleasing side benefit.
Inquisitor: You're suggesting I'm graceful?
Solas: No, I am declaring it. It was not up for debate.
Because he's just so god damn smooth, damn Solas
Solas, point me in the direction of someone who can teach me blood magic pls
No blood magic tree in this game, but you could become a necromancer if you want
Mara Jade
I know there isn't a blood magic tree ;_; but maybe Solas could hack the game for me, give me some of that sweet sweet blood magic in exchange for some good times with my female elf mage...
Kirk Lawrence hardly doubt it he is not a bloody mage he is a face expert lol
Kirk Lawrence Looking for a blood mage tutor hmm? Well I mean... Ya got one working in your inquisition, why not ask them? #InquisitionMP
Is there necromancy? There never has been before, I mean they had one spell called walking corpse in the spirit tree? Or was it creation? I don't recall, but it was only the one undead minion, and it wasn't terribly good.
Allergic to halla? >;)
ELVEN GLORYYYYYYY...
After Trespasser you realise all the crap Solas said about "seeing elven culture while walking in the fade" was complete bull as he had actually lived during that time
it actually isnt a lie, considering the fade used to just be one with the rest of the world. him seeing it while "walking in the fade" technically isnt incorrect. its just not in the sense we would think of.
@@verminscum Probably true, but I believe the "Saw it in the fade"-card was almost always an excuse to explain him knowing things that he obviously shouldn't
@@Umirua Oh yeah of course it was. He just technically didn’t lie most of the time, he’s just super vague lmao.
Omission is a lie based on truths
@@Umirua He used it so often and sometimes even made huge pauses I figured it out that he was ancient almost immediately, when he was constantly reading scripts of ancient elves, understanding their methods and equipment - I knew he had to be some scientist or a ruler to know that stuff. When he started getting heated everytime we talked about elven gods I knew he was either one of them or at least a high priest or something. When he took very personally that most people forget about Fen'Harel - he even guided me to the god in question during Jaws of Hakkon and in Arbor wilds during the heated conversations how he had to stop couple times and was super friendly with the sentinels. I knew already who he was, didnt need Trespasser to tell me. BUT kudos to BW actually dropping clues and letting the audience figure it out early. (compared to much more frequent subversion of expectation that makes no sense and is more common now)
Solas playing hard to get n shit
yas
me in trespasser = solas : i could not lay with you under a lie!!! me : yes you can
"While you played with halla, I walked the fade"
"WHILE YOU PLAYED VIDEO GAMES I STUDIED THE BLADE" energy lmfao
Solas' calm personality covering up that searing intensity is fascinating. #hothothothothot
sailtheplains you won't be saying that in trespasser
@@luigimui6687 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@satsukynolife4094 rip
Luigi Mui Personally trespasser cemented Solas as my favorite romance, it’s unresolved and a bit tragic but incredibly good
@@luigimui6687 I disagree! I very much thought this in Trespasser. Just with more angst.
funny, as I had almost the same dialogues with my rogue elf. I don't see what's exclusive here.
The information is mage specific though
@@frenne_dilley male elf, got the graceful line too.
Ey he mentions her muscles if elquisitor is a warrior >:) that’s also pretty fine ey
And here we have it. Elves were immortal after all, if Solas is to be believed. And not by the use of magic! Fascinating....
He literally says everything about immortality in Trespasser
@@MirkwoodCrow their comment was posted pre-trespasser, the information was news at the time
@@AquaswanOfficial Not really, tho
@@MirkwoodCrow ?
Solas says he only lied by omission so I guess he told the truth about most things.
I had this conversation with Solas with my Qunari Inquisitor. However it was in Skyhold near the end of the game. I think you just need super high approval… then you can chit chat about ancient elves and the pros and cons of blood magic to your hearts content.
That...is pretty cool, actually. And makes total sense.
Dominated.... fascinating... I'm going to choose to assume a lot about you, Solas, based on this one interaction. Inquisitor Greatly Approves!
i was dalish female rogue and got this dialogue
male dalish rouge also got it
These aren't female Dalish mage specific - save the flirt options. They alter slightly for my Warrior, but everything here is essentially what I was able to hear from him as a Dalish Warrior. Perhaps the divergence for mages is further along in the storyline? He even told me about "the elven connection" and its potential consequences for a Dalish Inquisitor when first acquiring Skyhold. Which is where I am currently in the main storyline.
There is a similar separate conversation for rogues as well: he enjoys the rogue's gracefulness.
most of this specific conversation with Solas can be heard with any Elf (male/female, mage/not mage) except the blood magic bit
Any of the dialogue choices picked with the star icon are mage only. Which means there's three options that are mage only. Those three which are probably only accessible as an elf on top of that. Not to mention this is when you just barely have met Solas, so who knows how many more dialogue options are only for elf mages in the game?
ben5056 Kim Barber You guys are certain? I talked with him about Blood Magic on my Dalish Warrior. I'm guessing the flag may be Elf OR Mage. I'm curious to start a non-Dalish Mage just to find out...
shinsaikou1 yeah I think that solas has specific conversation for mages and/or elfs
shinsaikou1 ben5056
After watching some other gameplay videos I think it's close but slightly different from what I assumed. I originally though it was just recycled from DA2; in which the star icon marked mage only dialogue options. But I've come to the conclusion that it just marks unique options. So class, race and probably gender gated options.
Sometimes it isn't always clear why the star option shows up in conversations. Often times it gives you some more insightful questions to ask or things to say. Though a few times the star has given me some options that seemed to be of the "do not want" variety... I'm talking in general, not just with our mysterious mage here...
If you choose the 3rd option around 4:50 he (agrees) respects and acknowledges, how it is wise to know one’s companions’ strengths and weaknesses.
I like saving the elves questions for later after halamshiral, it changes a little
I wonder how the Solas romance will affect his epilogue.
You can find it on youtube. But spoiler alert: It's beautiful.
Snobby Gamer I want a lonely balcony scene
Snobby Gamer beautiful and heartbreaking. My head!cannon Inquisition-mance :3
Lithiel It's so...lonely...Hard to bear until I saw the ending scene after the credits...
Lithiel 8 ball says... maybe
Solas just became one of my favorite characters I played a city elf in origins an hated the way all the other elves in origins an DA2 bent over for the Dalish I always thought they were stuck up pricks especially to other elves. I'm glad he's willing to call them out on their bullshit
Solas , Blackwall , Bull and Cullen are some of the best companions in this game.
Having a culture that adapts and changes is not 'bullshit' but natural. The Dalish try to keep elven culture alive (as do the city elves in their own way) which inevitably will mean that aspects of it will be very different to that of their ancestors due to it existing in and responding to a different world to that which their ancestors lived in hundreds of years ago. Where Solas sees this as a 'corruption', I see it as healthy. Solas is usually a rational, thoughtful character but when it comes to the Dalish he clearly bears a large chip on his shoulder that clouds his better judgement.
Tlevids Gotta agree with Assassin Cactus - they're stuck up about it. They suffer form the "older is better" fallacy and use that to be superior to others. Solas just has it even worse than they do ;)... as well as.. well, other issues. With the stuff they're basing it on. Which he knows all about. Form the fade, obviously
Sounds like you have both bought into stereotypes of the Dalish elves. The Dalish consist of many tribes, each adapted to its own environment and each consisting of different individuals and leaders with varying attitudes. Some are closed minded and inward looking while others trade freely with humans and welcome city elves into their ranks. The Lavellan tribe in Inquisition even works with the Inquisition to rescue a human/city elf settlement from red lyrium crazed nobles.
Their attitude towards city elves also varies - some are derogatory towards them while others are welcoming toward them. Pol from the Sabrae clan was protected by the Dalish when he fled to them, Zathrian made Lanaya (a city elf) his first - a decision accepted by the clan, and Feynriel was protected by the Sabrae clan despite him being a powerful and dangerous human mage (of elven heritage). Hahren Paivel states that when the Dalish regain a homeland, the city elves would be welcome and could help the Dalish better understand the humans.
Meanwhile, city elves also have a wide range of attitudes concerning the Dalish. Some look up to the Dalish (such as the elderly elf at Redcliffe in DA:I), others view them as savages (mainly due to human propaganda) and some even join bandit groups which prey on the Dalish - Warden Mahariel's father was murdered by a bunch of city elves and humans so that they could rob him.
Regarding the Dalish culture, it consists of both elements of their past and new elements. The Dalish maintain old aspects of elven culture and history in order to maintain a distinct culture which gives them a sense of identity and belonging rather than live as second class citizens in a dull and uniform human world. The city elves also mostly maintain their elven heritage to some degree via a number of rituals. Only some elves (like Sera) turn their backs on elven culture entirely and that is because she was raised by humans. Dalish culture also has many new innovations such as their aravels pulled by halla which give them a nomadic life which their ancestors lacked. Many prefer this life to the lives of their past ancestors:
"The keeper says that one day the Dalish will find a home that we can call our own. But why? Why should we tie ourselves to stone constructions like the humans and the dwarves? What is wrong with the life we have now? We owe nothing to anyone, we have no master but ourselves, and we go where the halla and the gods take us. There is nothing more wonderful than sitting on an aravel as it flies through the forest, pulled by our halla. We are truly free, for the first time in our people's history. Why should we change this?"
So it is a generalisation to state that the Dalish look only to the past. Regardless, their lifestyle IMO is generally far superior to that of the city elves who live in slums in constant fear of humans. In The Masked Empire, elven traders at Halamshiral are constantly ripped off by nobles who refuse to pay them for their services and elves are indiscriminately butchered by chevaliers and guards in times of unrest. So in many cases, I don't blame the Dalish for viewing their own lifestyle as superior to that of the city elves.
Tlevids Of course I buy in to it, I was wardon Mahariel ;)
Thanks for sharing this :)
If solas is a returning character than were is Merrill I miss her
I don't want to watch this, due to the spoilers, but I just want this goddamn game so damn much, I can't help but watch it, just 2 more days of waiting.
Same here, it's preloaded and teasing me :(
Rob Campion I just want to toss my computer through the window, because videos are popping up everywhere, and I want to play XD
I will buy it on the 21st myself so not yet preloaded here, but I just can't fucking wait xD
So ashe, probably a question that's been asked and answered before but will we be seeing an LP of Inquisition?
Thank you for your vids, they keep us Europeans sustained until release :D
I wanted to ask if you could do a vid (no spoilerish) about what the companions like or dislike in general, so to get on their good side :P
Also, do the advisers have the same sort of progression in their relationship with the Inquisitor as the companions do. Approving and disapproving decisions you made.
Does anybody know the specific conversation options that are in iambic pentameter?
Please could you do a video of where and how to get a hart mount? They look so cool and is probably the closest thing my Dalish inquisitor can get to a halla.
pretty sure i saw most if not all of those while playing a male dalish rogue
So far all characters are
interesting !
how is it i cant find this one dialogue on any video where solas talks about the dalish as people to inquisitor in the inquisitors balcony? I tried to get the same scene with dwarf character but it didnt happen so i must either done something wrong or its only dalish thing? If someone could explain this to me i would be most grateful
@2:57 My favorite part.
I also got some of the dialogue in the video with my Dalish Elf Male Quizzy.
Yes I knew i was right about sprits thank you lady insanity for this video :)
Thank you for this. I chose a Dalish Warrior so she could protect him and I was just wondering if he had different dialog if I had chosen a mage
I heard much of this as a human Mage, enough that I didn't feel like I missed anything by not getting the Dalish bits.
Off topic question but do you unlock the Red Hart for use at Skyhold? Cause it seems to be locked at Haven.
Found out...war table missions unlock mounts. :)
Ashe can you show us all types of different Humans , Dwarves, elfs. and Qunari like the Head
The conversation minus the romance options are available for any dalish mage. By the way the "I am a true elf" option literally means you say "I am descendant of the elves who refused to surrender after halamshiral"
BAHA. "Dominate it"
Yeah! Get it, gurrrrl!
Only notice one line that was different. Flirt how you use magic. I liked how the comments dalish rogue^^
Solas' perception of Demons is mighty interesting. I planned on swapping him out for Dorian once I have him but I may keep with Solas. Or just bring him for fade related missions
I have a question for you Lady Insanity, is there a way to get the text on your screen to be big when playing Dragon Age Inquisition? I don't have an HDTV or anything like that, mine is a simple tv and the text is super small that I can't see it. So I can't really enjoy my game as much.
nope, no way to fix it, i know exactly what your talking about i had the same problem on my old tv. its just because it isnt wide screen i presume
Addressing each other with Elder/Younger honorifics then later doing the frickafrack. Yessss
The first conversation isn't specific to elf mages. I had it later in Skyhold
I got everyone of these conversations (save for the romances) with a male Dalish mage too.
Man, my elf Mage inquisitors started off really well with Silas but they hated each other by the end. I actually don't like Solas either haha he is a stuck up prick. But I loved his dialogue and voice actor.
Can't wait to have this conversation with my own female elf mage.
Pretty sure I had this conversation with Solas as a female warrior Qunari. Idk if a patch opened up this conversation to everyone, or if I did something special to open it up, but we definitely had this talk.
Solas definitely knows more than he lets on, very strange character.
It's Ianto from Torchwood!
Lavellan: “Your opinions on elvhen culture?”
Perfect timing bird: *rahratrahrataraah*
it's not just for mages I had the same conversation being a warrior
Is this for mage elves only, or elves in general?
I was just wondering is there a night and day cycle in this game?
I know I'm very late, but the day night cycle only changes in certain cutscenes
That option is present regardless of class when you play as a dalish elf.
Aw, why would you make this but not enable subtitles :(
This may seem odd but anyone else experiencing on xbox 360, ps3, xbox one or ps4, the black loading screen of death? I was playing for 10 hours before now I can't even get into the game after selecting my save. The save isn't corrupted. I am just wondering how many others have this issue.
The 360.. I am at the Hinterlands and 10:42 into the game.. I checked my saves, they are fine.. The connection is fine.. But I can't get past the black loading screen of despair right after the tutorial card screen. It freezes right up.
I thank you for trying but it's already been confirmed on the EA forums this morning it's the games coding.. It's faulty and glitchy for us.. It's happening to people on the ps4 and the xbox one, some people can't even get the disc to read after playing it for a while.. But I appreciate the help though but I really doubt clearing the cache would do it seeing as it's the only game giving me problems.. I resorted to go back to playing Skyrim or Lords of Shadow 2
Somewhat off-topic, but I was just playing a Dalish mage and the conversation with Morrigan in the Crossroads was vastly different from the other class playthroughs.
Elves rule.
Does anyone know how to change your outfit in skyhold?
WOWWWW
Get a computer and download a mod, the end. Otherwise just try to alter your opinion of the casual ruler get up.
Check out the inquisitors bedroom. There is a dresser there. to the right of the bed.
I wish they had diffrent magic trees depending on your race
I winder if the perception of spirits in the world of Thedas as fearful and evil deceivers affects how many demons there actually are.
"oh, but you know the truth, right?"
Well... The answer to this question might not be what you expect
I'm so pissed about this gated dialouge, I romanced him already but I didn't get the dialouge since I'm not triggered it in the first place.
Is this going to affect the romance-story or its only about this one dialouge?
What does what Solas tell us about blood magic use tends to make it difficult to enter the fade mean for us now that we know what Lyrium is, more or less what the Titans are, and what we now about the fade and his making the veil? Titans used their own "blood" per se and they seemed to be separate entities of the world before the veil. Yet Templars draw their abilities from the lyrium in their blood, and as Cole says they hum the old song in them. Blood magic may not be evil, but it certainly has a draw upon it that leads us away from the fade and can cause a bloodlust and a maddening in those that use it too much. Are dwarves unable to use magic because they can't use their blood for magic, or rather that's all they have? Why do they need the Titans to have magic?
I got this conversation and I'm playing a rogue.
Kalan: A dreamer who has talked with many spirits, including those not many know of. These spirits give her information on things lost to history, and with their help, she becomes a mage wise beyond her years.
O.O
My OC sounds eerily like Solas.
I punched Solas in the face on my second playthrough. :D It was satisfying. How dare he question my demi-godness?!
So Solas just strolled to a tribe and said everything you know is a lie with no proof. Yeah thats gonna work.
Just now realized who his voice reminds me of: Charlie Chaplin in The Great Dictator.
I had that same conversation with him as a male Lavellan who was rouge archer, so it's not specific just to female mage.
I don't know if I would believe what he says about elves considering what you find out about him.
I'm sorry I love Solas so much and I love asking him questions and hearing what he has to say but I'm having the hardest time taking him seriously in this video because of his FLOWY TUNIC FLAP SWINGING IN THE BREEZE
I got all of the same conversation options with solas but my char is not a mage, she is a rogue archer. This is not just for the mage. You get these conversation options with with any class. Come to think of it, the only option you don't have, when you are a different race, is the romance option.
Elves are special!! XD One of my characters was going to be Dalish Female Elf. Now that i know who Solas.. well i won't spoil..but lets just say..>.< My Elf will become mrs Solas :)
How much of what solas says in the game actual truth and how much is it exaggerated to fit his charade
It's funny how the Dalish in the DA series pronounce some elven words differently than Solas.
Marilia D. Solas is speaking the ancient elven but the dalish are speaking a new form because they've lost their mother tongue during their slavery
Still if she hypotectacilly speaking that she could or at least a bit more that she can that would be great plus Iam actually curious of how the story would envolved if so were the case...
(I apolelgize for any misspelling or grammar and hope you´ll understand me anyway.)
Solas surely knows blood magic even if he never uses or used it. Here's one instance where he lies (other being in regard to the intrigues at the Palace). He sees no reason to cause trouble or to draw trouble.
As a male elf mage you get the most of this conversation aswell, apart from the more relantionship based choices :)
I'm pretty sure this can be done with Dalish male elf, too. I think I got the exact same conversation.
Male and non mage classes, as well. There may be some magey specific stuff further down the line, but my male Dalish Warrior heard all of this. The differences were minor, things like talking about my path being one of a hunter. His points were all still the same.
he says the same things to an elf rogue
exept 4:15 "interested in learning blood magic", a sligtly different line at 6:44, and flirts ofc, i got all those with my male dalish rogue btw.... who "learned about magic" though... hes supposed to be a magic nerd XD fascinated by all things of magic
Lmao, Solas trying to be a top and dominant 🤣
The village he grew up in was called solas.
That is unlikely. Solas is a village in the present day. It is unlikely the actual village he grew up in would even still exist, let alone have the same name.
Solus really hates me in my play through
I unlock these dialogs as a human male warrior, but i had a friendship with Solas
He has a unique convo wuth Female Dalish rogue too
Still think Solas should of had a mohawk, lol.
I didn't actually know who were the romance options going in to to this. I was a dalish elf rogue. I got the flirts and thought... dude. I love this character. Then I thought.. you know what would be AMAZING? Someone who could, with practice, pull off half the stuff he does and thus appreciate it better. Restarted as a mage. Had no idea the writers thought the same thing ;)
Though it could jsut be easier playing the mage to win approval. After all, the roleplay naturally leads one down a path of approval with the exception of Dalish topics depending on how uppety one is ;)
uniqeu dialog whit a female dalish elf whos also a mage.... X_X but but but i had MALE elf and i had this conversation whit him... LoL so was it a glitch or did see say it wrong, i literly had this talk about magic and the ancient elf's whit solas
(sorry for my bad typing)
I had this conversation as a female qunari while at skyhold.
I like to think that the reason Solas hates the Dalish so much is because in spite of all the things they get wrong about the Evanuris they are *dead-on* about him.
Oh boy,don't let Merrill near Solas if they're both for blood magic,that would be so chaotic 😅
i showed solas that not all dalish call him a mad man i mean if was was a dalish in real life i would tell him that reguardliss of what he saw in the dalish i belive he is one of the people
You don't have to play as a female to get this conversation tree. I played as a male and I had this conversation with him.
meh. I like silent heroes better. Speaking ones are better for youtube videos, but to play, I like to know exactly what I'm saying and how I'm saying it. The producers at bioware said that if we wanted silent heroes to look for other games by other companies, my answer is: with pleasure. Eventually, all my questions about the game will be in the wiki anyway.
You can get pretty close to this conversation if you are male not just female. You get the same lore out of him.