Why Slade Wilson Deathstroke Is Robin's Perfect Antithesis

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • I recently watched Teen Titans (2003) for the first time and LOVED IT!! But one man in particular caught my eye... and it's Slade Wilson. HE'S SO COOL AND AWESOME IN THIS SHOW!! I decided to do a deep dive into how his character and Robin's character reflect one another--how much Robin reminds Slade of himself and how he uses it to manipulate Robin... actually, he's just kind of manipulating everyone. At all times. What a goober.
    I really just wanted to rant about them. It's so interesting to me. How their partnership parallels Batman and the Dynamic Duo, how Robin's obsession with catching Slade drags him into a downward spiral, and what the KEY difference between these two characters really is... I found it really fascinating.
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Komentáře • 45

  • @danielasarmiento3101
    @danielasarmiento3101 Před 11 dny +59

    The way I see it, Slade is meant to be a perversion of Batman . A lot of people theorize that in this version of the Titans Batman was the one that accidentally killed Slades son not the titans , so in order to get revenge on Batman he decide to try to force Robin into becoming his apprentices and when that didn't work he tried to groom other kids

  • @lauroalexandre279
    @lauroalexandre279 Před 13 dny +36

    I'd say all the villains of the show are shallow with the purpose of deepening the main five, so I'm not at all bothered by Slade never having a true objective other than being a menace. In fact, if you think about it, all main villains represent all the dangers a kid/teen might face during this hard period of time.
    - Slade is the predator, the evil adult who will explore you into doing their desires, no matter what they need to do to force you (yes, he is a creep);
    - Brother Blood is the fetishist, the person who will see only the most superficial aspects of you, romanticize it and dare to point at what you should be based only on what they see of you (which isn't much);
    - Trigon is both the abusive parent and the trauma resultant of growing up in an abusive household; that colossal and frightening figure you just can't go against, making you feel as hopeless as a natural disaster would at their mercy, and that fear following you for a lifetime;
    - The Brotherhood of Evil are those frustrated old people who wish to "put the kids in their place", constantly taking the youth as uneducated fools and pushing regressive agendas just to feel better about themselves.
    About Deathstroke's design, I agree about the mechanical suit not fitting him, maybe it would've fit Red X better, considering his newest appearance in the comics.
    Speaking of the devil, I have the headcannon he's Slade's eldest son, Grant, who couldn't take his militaristic parenting and ran away, which could explain how X is as skilled as Robin and the obsession of Slade wanting a successor by all means necessary.

    • @aaronmelnek8753
      @aaronmelnek8753 Před 12 dny +5

      This is a great take, well done!!

    • @danielasarmiento3101
      @danielasarmiento3101 Před 11 dny +5

      Great take , personally I saw brother blood more of narcissistic, manipulative abusive school teacher , who can't understand why someone like Cyborg can resist him, thinking that's it's his machine implants and not his willpower .

    • @lauroalexandre279
      @lauroalexandre279 Před 10 dny +3

      @@danielasarmiento3101
      I'd say he has more in common with Mister Sinister from the X-Men and the Armitage family from Get Out. He thought it was so brilliant that Cyborg had those cibernetic implants, that he wanted them for himself. He sought to show Cy that he was wasting his potential, and that he could make a better use of his "gifts" than the hero, willingly taking the surgery to become more Cyborg-like, thinking that was the only thing that made Cy special

  • @doct1400
    @doct1400 Před 13 dny +29

    This sells Slade pretty short actually. Slade is quite capable of caring for others and even if the show never really explores it here he does care about Robin. This is ironically done well in CW'S Arrow and the relationship of Oliver Queen and Malcolm Merlyn. Yes, Slade is there and awesome but they don't have that father son dynamic going.

    • @owencoles2798
      @owencoles2798 Před 5 dny +2

      I really like CW’s Slade. He was a cool character and his dynamics and relationships were great.

  • @dazzlethestar151
    @dazzlethestar151 Před 6 dny +13

    The parallels between Slade and Robin are some of my favourite parts of the series, I love when you're able to see the similarities between heroes and villains, and how the hero could become just like that villain had they gone down a different path.

  • @curiosityman3704
    @curiosityman3704 Před 6 dny +19

    Well, interestingly there is ONE OTHER VERSION of Slade Wilson Deathstroke that isn't a creep BESIDES his 2003 Teen Titans appearance...
    It's his Teen Titans GO appearance 😁😁😁😁 This is not a joke. I'm sorry to say, but that is the ONE other place where he's not giving out cupcakes.

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +4

      Also the live action titans show I'm pretty sure he didn't but the titans did pretend to be friends with he's son to find slade so they kinda did it in reverse there

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +4

      Also wouldn't the dceu one also count since he hade properly less than a minute of screen time and I haven't watched arrow but I doubt he'd be doing kids to get close to a fully grown man

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před 4 dny +1

      *Ahem Cough Deathstroke Knights and Dragons COUGH*

  • @jaquan323
    @jaquan323 Před dnem +2

    In arkham origins he’s actually pretty cool. From what we know he didn’t touch little girls, he’s trained and smart. Also, I think the reason DS in Teen Titans wanted to challenge the teen titans, is because in most media Robin and his team were fighting Slade and during the mix up his son died and Slade was too deep in his feels to realize it was his fault and blamed robin. In literally most media, he isnt after robin for money, he tests him until eventually he wins. Its a personal vendetta against Robin.

  • @randomreactionstv2721
    @randomreactionstv2721 Před 12 dny +10

    Robin is the weakest titan but he is the smartest.

  • @OverthinkingStories
    @OverthinkingStories Před 11 dny +6

    Great analysis of character parallels and differences. :)

  • @NickferZev
    @NickferZev Před 3 dny +1

    My favorite part of this video was you trying to convince yourself that Spade was not a creep for wanting Terra as his apprentice 🤣

  • @SuperNinja913
    @SuperNinja913 Před 14 dny +8

    Yess I am with you girl I love this Version of Slade I wish we have more of Robin Back Story 😊 and Season 1

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +1

      It's robin everyone knows he's backstory unless you mean like why he left

  • @jacobhancock178
    @jacobhancock178 Před 14 dny +9

    I highly recommend the Batman: Beyond movie "Return of the Joker"

    • @doct1400
      @doct1400 Před 13 dny +1

      As good as that movie is I am curious why you would recommend that. If you wanted something with a similar vibe, sorta wouldn't "Under the Red Hood" be a better call? Or if you just wanted the same story arc or part of it by a different artist "The Judas Project"? And there is of course the Son of Batman, Batman vs Robin, Bad Blood and I tbelieve 'Death in the Family' but I haven't seen that one yet.

    • @jacobhancock178
      @jacobhancock178 Před 13 dny +2

      @@doct1400 I just recommended it because I thought it was a good movie not because it really had anything to do with Deathstroke, all of the movies you mentioned are great as well though, honestly most of the DCAU is pretty fantastic

    • @no.1spidey-fan182
      @no.1spidey-fan182 Před 4 dny +1

      You gotta atleast watch Batman Beyond in its entirety to make that show make sense

  • @no.1spidey-fan182
    @no.1spidey-fan182 Před 4 dny +1

    1:00 HIGHLY recommend watching Deathstroke Knights and Dragons🔥🔥🔥. Does a good job at adding layers and depth to Salde's character. He isn't just this SUPERvillian, he's also this scarred lonely family man
    I believe it was supposed to be a series but then was repurposed last minute into a movie. The artstyle is frankly AMAZING tbvh

  • @kaydee3195
    @kaydee3195 Před 4 dny +1

    Deathstroke knights and dragons. Was made into a movie originally a set of eps. Itself . Very good in my opinion..minus the rose and jericho bit. Go watch!

  • @bigj8809
    @bigj8809 Před 5 dny +4

    If you enjoy the 03 titans so much check out batman beyond

  • @crumpscrumbs
    @crumpscrumbs Před 4 dny +1

    That was an awesome analysis! Very thorough, well researched, and well said throughout. It always felt like you knew exactly what you needed to say and that made the video very enjoyable 💯⭐️

  • @ClassicKrak83
    @ClassicKrak83 Před 5 dny +5

    I was si,ply miffed when you said Slade Wilson was a creep. Then you put Terra on screen and then it was all like... Oh... oh, right.
    I wouldn't write him off because of it. As far as I know with him specifically, that's the only story that took it there and even then a villain will do with villaians do. If you hate him for it then , on that level, the writer has done his hob. Dude had an incredibly good start for a back story, although Adeline Kane got the worst of it overall.
    Him with Terra can be seen akin to Hank Pym's slap. Carol Danvers pregnancy. etc. It's that one thing that just ruined that character to an unprecedented degree on various levels. I think Carol Danvers got it the worst of all for any character though, mostly thanks to her live action followed by the woke-atude of " modern " agendas in the comics. She was never awful, but yeah, they certainly buried this character completely.

  • @kristelvidhi5038
    @kristelvidhi5038 Před 12 dny +5

    If people dislike Batman vs Superman Dawn of Justice because it fails to adapt to the comics, why is this show liked so much if it barely adapts to the comics too?

    • @danielasarmiento3101
      @danielasarmiento3101 Před 11 dny +4

      The difference between the two is Batman V Superman was a rushed mess that barely understood its two main character , while shoving several important comic plot lines into one movie

    • @kristelvidhi5038
      @kristelvidhi5038 Před 11 dny +2

      @@danielasarmiento3101 yeah, well i still liked it. I wanted to see Batman and Superman fighting in real life and that's what i got. Besides, people love the Ultimate addition.

    • @danielasarmiento3101
      @danielasarmiento3101 Před 5 dny +1

      @kristelvidhi5038 that's fine if you like I was just stating why people love teen titans but hate BVS

    • @kristelvidhi5038
      @kristelvidhi5038 Před 5 dny

      @@danielasarmiento3101 well i think it's stupid. There's a reason why TV doesn't adapt to comics and people need to learn to be happy with what they've got.

    • @WolforNuva
      @WolforNuva Před 4 dny +4

      It's really a matter of quality. To put it as simply as I can, if you're going to make a change from the original, then if it's one for the better then people won't care that it's different. But if it's worse, then people will wonder why you bothered making that change, point to the original and ask why you couldn't have just done that.

  • @Chillin-jg8vg
    @Chillin-jg8vg Před 5 dny +4

    Are you going to talk about the Tern Titans in Tokyo movie and the Teen Titans Go to the movies film?

  • @aaronmelnek8753
    @aaronmelnek8753 Před 12 dny +3

    This was a really fun video! Youre so earnest and right on the money as far as analysis. Big fan!

  • @stranger5011
    @stranger5011 Před 4 dny +5

    TT slade: a great villain
    Any other is just waiting a distrack from Kendrick

  • @kaydee3195
    @kaydee3195 Před 4 dny +1

    In the earlier comics, both slade snd bruce know each other's identities. He even praises richard grayson to bruce when he came in all incog and stole one of b's suits at a party at the manor as a respectable thing, to say of that era.....dang. but yeah, difficult to see how the dark side arc in 03 varies until you look into nightwing's renegade arc. That came maybe around the same time or earlier If you enjoy that, go into the story. It's very fun.

  • @Pat12379
    @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +2

    I just watched the first like 3 episodes slade didn't even get out of he's base yet and I can see the batman similarities he has he's own batcave tge slade cave he has a buttler but so do alot of rich people but still

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 Před 4 dny

      Why was slade wearing a old man mask over he's normal mask why did it melt in the rain aswell

  • @LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious

    I don't even know if i watched this show enough to have a proper opinion, but i think Slade's motives might be the same ones you see behind school bullies. Those whose only way of coping comes from tormenting one's life until they can't take the bulls**t anymore. It's not because he wants to bomb the city, it's not because he wants to be a walking skill test for a group of five kids. It's because he takes satisfaction in reliving and creating traumas and suffering for those who already had enough of it at such a young age.
    Basically what all of this means is that he's a complex character that just so happens to be like the old villains in other stories. He likes to be evil, because. Did this all make sense?

  • @Pat12379
    @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +1

    When i watched my adventures with superman i thought that deathstroke wss blood sport who wss in jsmes guns scuide squad movie i knew that slade wss the guy who fought livewire but like why does he look like that in my adventures with superman like all the vilians are way to techy it is legit the only problem i have wuth that show i love the dhoe so much its so good

  • @Pat12379
    @Pat12379 Před 4 dny +1

    I also havent watched this show but i might over this video i watched young justice and the first 2 seasons was great i migjt watch this now

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Před 14 dny +3

    :)